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Kunzaito.8169Kunzaito.8169 Member ✭✭✭
edited March 17, 2020 in PVP

The top player has 106 wins and ONE loss? The second has 64 wins and 0 losses?

Is this some kind of manipulation or are these two players just that much better than everyone else in the game? 'Cause you'd think that just by sheer chance you couldn't win 100% of your games over that period of time. The third place one is still skewed a bit (4 losses) and everyone after that has a reasonable record for a good player.

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  • Trevor Boyer.6524Trevor Boyer.6524 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @NationalNacho.5972 said:
    Its pretty easy to ensure wins when you + ur duo is 100% of the team comp LOL

    I have like a 90+% win rate playing unoptimal comps

    This is what a leader board would look like if we had 5 man ranked q's

    @Trevor Boyer.6524

    It's true ^

    Would like to point out to everyone that, those wins rates are probably mostly real in 2v2, depending on what you see as "fair or unfair". There is definitely still some cheese meta gaming techniques going on, like all top 100 players queue dodging each other all of the time. But at least when your team has no slots open for random PUG joins, you can't be win traded or thrown on. Regardless of whatever is going on meta game wise, such as top players smurfing into you on alts, at least your losing that match due to actually being outplayed, rather than being win traded by PUG throws. I'm certainly not saying it is fair to alt play all day, trying to knock people who should be plat 2 down into gold 3, but hey, it's worlds better than 5 man solo/duo win trade wars, in terms of match making quality. It really is.

    If Arenanet could somehow limit the amount of vast alt accounts that are in play, this 2v2 season would be perfect. It is pretty lame to see most of the top 100 slots in every season held by the same 20 people. It would be much appreciated if they'd give that stuff a break, and let some the players who actually deserve those slots be able to play into them.

  • Kunzaito.8169Kunzaito.8169 Member ✭✭✭

    I think Trevor answered my question best - these players are at the top of the skill ladder, and would likely be at or near the top of the board anyway if they played straight up, but they are preserving unnaturally pristine w/l records through shady techniques.

    Whoever XMarketeer is (and he seems like a real peach), he inadvertently reinforces this point: if you are in legendary tier, you shouldn't be racking up 100 wins against someone who's in gold 2 or whatever. Not if the matchmaker is working right and you're not doing these, um, "special" techniques for guiding it. "Farming" players of much lower skill isn't really what I imagine a competitive PvP environment to be about. But if they really are avoiding the other 19 equally skilled players to prop up a w/l record season after season, that's just sad. I get how you might do that once for the title or whatever, but what's the incentive to do this season after season?

    I'm just genuinely curious about the environment at the top, it means nothing to me personally. I'm nowhere near the leaderboard and I have 0 desire to attempt to get there, let alone rank at the top.

  • Zagerus.8675Zagerus.8675 Member ✭✭✭

    @XxMarketeerxX.4102 said:
    hi memes

    Dare you to soloQ

  • JTGuevara.9018JTGuevara.9018 Member ✭✭✭
    edited March 17, 2020

    @Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

    @NationalNacho.5972 said:
    Its pretty easy to ensure wins when you + ur duo is 100% of the team comp LOL

    I have like a 90+% win rate playing unoptimal comps

    This is what a leader board would look like if we had 5 man ranked q's

    @Trevor Boyer.6524

    It's true ^

    Would like to point out to everyone that, those wins rates are probably mostly real in 2v2, depending on what you see as "fair or unfair". There is definitely still some cheese meta gaming techniques going on, like all top 100 players queue dodging each other all of the time. But at least when your team has no slots open for random PUG joins, you can't be win traded or thrown on. Regardless of whatever is going on meta game wise, such as top players smurfing into you on alts, at least your losing that match due to actually being outplayed, rather than being win traded by PUG throws. I'm certainly not saying it is fair to alt play all day, trying to knock people who should be plat 2 down into gold 3, but hey, it's worlds better than 5 man solo/duo win trade wars, in terms of match making quality. It really is.

    If Arenanet could somehow limit the amount of vast alt accounts that are in play, this 2v2 season would be perfect. It is pretty lame to see most of the top 100 slots in every season held by the same 20 people. It would be much appreciated if they'd give that stuff a break, and let some the players who actually deserve those slots be able to play into them.

    Yeah, 2v2 is a step up, don't get me wrong I welcome it. I enjoy 2v2. Minus certain cheese tactics, I barely get angry in games. I get MORE angry at this stupid matchmaking system. It's a complete disaster! It's a stupid relic of the "e-sports" era. Game after game, MOBA to FPS copies stupid ELO-based matchmaking and league systems. What kind of BS is it that I climbed and grinded through 70+ games from t2 silver to t1 gold only to lose all that rating and go back down to silver in 20-30 games while keeping a roughly 50/50 winrate. The matchmaking deliberately SCREWS me out of pips every chance it gets. Yeah, you can climb, but it's so much grind and BS in doing so. Meanwhile, other people get pips and don't even play as hard. What kind of a stupid system is that? It rewards you for less effort and the more you put in, the less you progress. The progress you do get just gets wiped out the more you play. So-called "skill-based matchmaking" all in the name of attracting players and making it "fair". Anyone with a brain knows that your first ten games(placements) matter the most. They make or break your season.

    To this day, I can't believe people still defend this nonsense.

    (PS: I've kept a constant 54% winrate for almost the whole season.)

  • JTGuevara.9018JTGuevara.9018 Member ✭✭✭

    @XxMarketeerxX.4102 said:
    @JTGuevara.9018 the system isn't as bad as people make it out to be. i promise u the reason ur in silver is just because you're not as good as the peoplein plat+ are. duel them any day and you will watch them crush you. watch them stream,. preferably ones with commentary so you hear their train of thought, and you will understand the way good players think is miles ahead of everyone else.

    additionally, therei s the duo factor to takeinto consideration, and i'll never in my lif eunderstand people who complain about duo: if you are soloing, you are putting yourselfinto the rng roll of whatever your duo will be. that's your ownfault, your own mistake, and therei s nobody to blame for that but you. not the system, not the population, but you. if you have a duo, you are locking in that player you are with and understanding his skill level. it isn't random rng; you know this player, and that detracts from the rng of it entirely. the system is actually VERY simple to climb with if you duo with someone good. if you and yourduo deserve to be plat, you WILL be plat, in the same way that the duos right now in legendary deserve to be there: they are the best players in the game, and the people below them are NOT. that is very simple.

    Whatever bruh...I heard the same kitten for years...you're not special.

  • shadowpass.4236shadowpass.4236 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @JTGuevara.9018 said:

    @Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

    @NationalNacho.5972 said:
    Its pretty easy to ensure wins when you + ur duo is 100% of the team comp LOL

    I have like a 90+% win rate playing unoptimal comps

    This is what a leader board would look like if we had 5 man ranked q's

    @Trevor Boyer.6524

    It's true ^

    Would like to point out to everyone that, those wins rates are probably mostly real in 2v2, depending on what you see as "fair or unfair". There is definitely still some cheese meta gaming techniques going on, like all top 100 players queue dodging each other all of the time. But at least when your team has no slots open for random PUG joins, you can't be win traded or thrown on. Regardless of whatever is going on meta game wise, such as top players smurfing into you on alts, at least your losing that match due to actually being outplayed, rather than being win traded by PUG throws. I'm certainly not saying it is fair to alt play all day, trying to knock people who should be plat 2 down into gold 3, but hey, it's worlds better than 5 man solo/duo win trade wars, in terms of match making quality. It really is.

    If Arenanet could somehow limit the amount of vast alt accounts that are in play, this 2v2 season would be perfect. It is pretty lame to see most of the top 100 slots in every season held by the same 20 people. It would be much appreciated if they'd give that stuff a break, and let some the players who actually deserve those slots be able to play into them.

    Yeah, 2v2 is a step up, don't get me wrong I welcome it. I enjoy 2v2. Minus certain cheese tactics, I barely get angry in games. I get MORE angry at this stupid matchmaking system. It's a complete disaster! It's a stupid relic of the "e-sports" era. Game after game, MOBA to FPS copies stupid ELO-based matchmaking and league systems. What kind of BS is it that I climbed and grinded through 70+ games from t2 silver to t1 gold only to lose all that rating and go back down to silver in 20-30 games while keeping a roughly 50/50 winrate. The matchmaking deliberately SCREWS me out of pips every chance it gets. Yeah, you can climb, but it's so much grind and BS in doing so. Meanwhile, other people get pips and don't even play as hard. What kind of a stupid system is that? It rewards you for less effort and the more you put in, the less you progress. The progress you do get just gets wiped out the more you play. So-called "skill-based matchmaking" all in the name of attracting players and making it "fair". Anyone with a brain knows that your first ten games(placements) matter the most. They make or break your season.

    To this day, I can't believe people still defend this nonsense.

    (PS: I've kept a constant 54% winrate for almost the whole season.)

    No one deserves wins. Blaming the matchmaker as the sole reason you're in silver is probably the reason you're in silver (in w/e games you play).

    For example, when I started playing Smite I placed in like mid-gold for Ranked Joust. After a few weeks of learning how to counterbuild and farm effectively, I went straight through plat, diamond, and into masters within one season because my mechanics were already good (adc main, hitting autos and skillshots were np bc I play a lot of shooters). Long story short, there are a lot of factors that go into ranking up in games. Everything from mechanical skill, to decision-making, to rotations and game knowledge.

  • Fantasylife.7981Fantasylife.7981 Member ✭✭✭

    well the reality is they are somewhat legit, they do have 2 or 3 max accounts extra which they are called smurfs , alts which are station on plat. they might boost their main by a little with their alt, but in reality what makes these players good is the passion and knowledge they have about PvP, they know every skills dmg, utility, cooldown and weakness to a class. The other reason is that these players will play the top strongest classes and will duo with someone who will also play a top class. Most of the classes played in plat3+ are Rev, firebrand, Necromancer, and thief.

  • They're there because they earned it by being good enough to be better than everyone else, and likely by Duoing with someone close to the same skill level.

    It's really up to you to interpret how much of an achievement that is based on what you know about Gw2 matchmaking and metagaming.

    If the idea of two of the very best players in the game queuing together to fight a bunch of SoloQ mid-low level plats and maybe a few golds after everyone who actually plays to compete has gone to bed seems unimpressive to you, then you's woke.

    What we really need are separate SoloQ/Teams ladders, where achievements like this would actually mean something. That will never happen though, because the Team people know most people SoloQ, and most of them are obviously making a killing off these merged queues so why would they want it to change?

    Remove or Split DuoQ, revolution of our time! 😷

  • JTGuevara.9018JTGuevara.9018 Member ✭✭✭

    @shadowpass.4236 said:

    @JTGuevara.9018 said:

    @Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

    @NationalNacho.5972 said:
    Its pretty easy to ensure wins when you + ur duo is 100% of the team comp LOL

    I have like a 90+% win rate playing unoptimal comps

    This is what a leader board would look like if we had 5 man ranked q's

    @Trevor Boyer.6524

    It's true ^

    Would like to point out to everyone that, those wins rates are probably mostly real in 2v2, depending on what you see as "fair or unfair". There is definitely still some cheese meta gaming techniques going on, like all top 100 players queue dodging each other all of the time. But at least when your team has no slots open for random PUG joins, you can't be win traded or thrown on. Regardless of whatever is going on meta game wise, such as top players smurfing into you on alts, at least your losing that match due to actually being outplayed, rather than being win traded by PUG throws. I'm certainly not saying it is fair to alt play all day, trying to knock people who should be plat 2 down into gold 3, but hey, it's worlds better than 5 man solo/duo win trade wars, in terms of match making quality. It really is.

    If Arenanet could somehow limit the amount of vast alt accounts that are in play, this 2v2 season would be perfect. It is pretty lame to see most of the top 100 slots in every season held by the same 20 people. It would be much appreciated if they'd give that stuff a break, and let some the players who actually deserve those slots be able to play into them.

    Yeah, 2v2 is a step up, don't get me wrong I welcome it. I enjoy 2v2. Minus certain cheese tactics, I barely get angry in games. I get MORE angry at this stupid matchmaking system. It's a complete disaster! It's a stupid relic of the "e-sports" era. Game after game, MOBA to FPS copies stupid ELO-based matchmaking and league systems. What kind of BS is it that I climbed and grinded through 70+ games from t2 silver to t1 gold only to lose all that rating and go back down to silver in 20-30 games while keeping a roughly 50/50 winrate. The matchmaking deliberately SCREWS me out of pips every chance it gets. Yeah, you can climb, but it's so much grind and BS in doing so. Meanwhile, other people get pips and don't even play as hard. What kind of a stupid system is that? It rewards you for less effort and the more you put in, the less you progress. The progress you do get just gets wiped out the more you play. So-called "skill-based matchmaking" all in the name of attracting players and making it "fair". Anyone with a brain knows that your first ten games(placements) matter the most. They make or break your season.

    To this day, I can't believe people still defend this nonsense.

    (PS: I've kept a constant 54% winrate for almost the whole season.)

    No one deserves wins. Blaming the matchmaker as the sole reason you're in silver is probably the reason you're in silver (in w/e games you play).

    For example, when I started playing Smite I placed in like mid-gold for Ranked Joust. After a few weeks of learning how to counterbuild and farm effectively, I went straight through plat, diamond, and into masters within one season because my mechanics were already good (adc main, hitting autos and skillshots were np bc I play a lot of shooters). Long story short, there are a lot of factors that go into ranking up in games. Everything from mechanical skill, to decision-making, to rotations and game knowledge.> @shadowpass.4236 said:

    @JTGuevara.9018 said:

    @Trevor Boyer.6524 said:

    @NationalNacho.5972 said:
    Its pretty easy to ensure wins when you + ur duo is 100% of the team comp LOL

    I have like a 90+% win rate playing unoptimal comps

    This is what a leader board would look like if we had 5 man ranked q's

    @Trevor Boyer.6524

    It's true ^

    Would like to point out to everyone that, those wins rates are probably mostly real in 2v2, depending on what you see as "fair or unfair". There is definitely still some cheese meta gaming techniques going on, like all top 100 players queue dodging each other all of the time. But at least when your team has no slots open for random PUG joins, you can't be win traded or thrown on. Regardless of whatever is going on meta game wise, such as top players smurfing into you on alts, at least your losing that match due to actually being outplayed, rather than being win traded by PUG throws. I'm certainly not saying it is fair to alt play all day, trying to knock people who should be plat 2 down into gold 3, but hey, it's worlds better than 5 man solo/duo win trade wars, in terms of match making quality. It really is.

    If Arenanet could somehow limit the amount of vast alt accounts that are in play, this 2v2 season would be perfect. It is pretty lame to see most of the top 100 slots in every season held by the same 20 people. It would be much appreciated if they'd give that stuff a break, and let some the players who actually deserve those slots be able to play into them.

    Yeah, 2v2 is a step up, don't get me wrong I welcome it. I enjoy 2v2. Minus certain cheese tactics, I barely get angry in games. I get MORE angry at this stupid matchmaking system. It's a complete disaster! It's a stupid relic of the "e-sports" era. Game after game, MOBA to FPS copies stupid ELO-based matchmaking and league systems. What kind of BS is it that I climbed and grinded through 70+ games from t2 silver to t1 gold only to lose all that rating and go back down to silver in 20-30 games while keeping a roughly 50/50 winrate. The matchmaking deliberately SCREWS me out of pips every chance it gets. Yeah, you can climb, but it's so much grind and BS in doing so. Meanwhile, other people get pips and don't even play as hard. What kind of a stupid system is that? It rewards you for less effort and the more you put in, the less you progress. The progress you do get just gets wiped out the more you play. So-called "skill-based matchmaking" all in the name of attracting players and making it "fair". Anyone with a brain knows that your first ten games(placements) matter the most. They make or break your season.

    To this day, I can't believe people still defend this nonsense.

    (PS: I've kept a constant 54% winrate for almost the whole season.)

    No one deserves wins. Blaming the matchmaker as the sole reason you're in silver is probably the reason you're in silver (in w/e games you play).

    For example, when I started playing Smite I placed in like mid-gold for Ranked Joust. After a few weeks of learning how to counterbuild and farm effectively, I went straight through plat, diamond, and into masters within one season because my mechanics were already good (adc main, hitting autos and skillshots were np bc I play a lot of shooters). Long story short, there are a lot of factors that go into ranking up in games. Everything from mechanical skill, to decision-making, to rotations and game knowledge.

    BS. All of it.

  • Eurantien.4632Eurantien.4632 Member ✭✭✭✭

    The best players playing the best stuff. Pretty much every player on NA in the top 30 or so got there on firebrand and condi rev and some necro while they were strong. Even after the patch with things more balanced these classes are still good and these same players win. Good players just win when its 2v2s. They dont have to play meme specs they just have to counter yours and that's all there is to it. A great duo might get memed for a round once in awhile but since it's best 2 out of 3 they can just adapt and take the set. Nothing really shady about it.

  • Leonidrex.5649Leonidrex.5649 Member ✭✭✭✭

    this is some tinfoil kitten right there lol.
    im not bad, its everyone else thats cheatin!
    diut just take a duo, get on coms, both take broken as kitten build and you will get 70%+ winrates without even trying.

  • Khalisto.5780Khalisto.5780 Member ✭✭✭

    lol, every season same thing, cant wait for the next one mid april

  • Thorstienn.1642Thorstienn.1642 Member ✭✭✭

    Of course there is some kind of shenanigans going on.
    1st, there is only one account with the "perfect" ratio, where as if NOTHING remotely suss was going on, there would HAVE to be 2 (the duo partner).
    2nd, the zero losses, is kinda suspicious. The only caveat, that IS THE BEST player in the game, to the point that no matter who they face out of the apparently only 20 really good players in the game, they will still win. VS rank 2, no prob, win. VS rank 3, no prob, win etc.

    Note, I'm not arguing that players at the top of the leaderboards arent better than the rest. But in a perfect system, the top 20 or so players would just be playing each other over and over. But there is 24 hrs in a day, so always the chance those 20 players play at completely different times to each other, and therefore HAVE to play against the rest of us plebs with the small brains that cant even comprehend the majesty of these top players.

  • Eurantien.4632Eurantien.4632 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 17, 2020

    @Thorstienn.1642 said:
    Of course there is some kind of shenanigans going on.
    1st, there is only one account with the "perfect" ratio, where as if NOTHING remotely suss was going on, there would HAVE to be 2 (the duo partner).
    2nd, the zero losses, is kinda suspicious. The only caveat, that IS THE BEST player in the game, to the point that no matter who they face out of the apparently only 20 really good players in the game, they will still win. VS rank 2, no prob, win. VS rank 3, no prob, win etc.

    Note, I'm not arguing that players at the top of the leaderboards arent better than the rest. But in a perfect system, the top 20 or so players would just be playing each other over and over. But there is 24 hrs in a day, so always the chance those 20 players play at completely different times to each other, and therefore HAVE to play against the rest of us plebs with the small brains that cant even comprehend the majesty of these top players.

    Its really not hard for 20 people (10 teams) to just queue at different times over the course of several days before decay kicks in. All you need is like 45 minutes to get your wins and log off.

    Then given that some of these top 10 accounts are alts and the same like 3 or 4 people only queue together that makes it even easier.

    The top people choose not to play each other. It's not worth it because when one team loses they lose like 40 rank points but a win only gains like 2.

    The only reason Flysofar lost a game was because he DC'd for 2 rounds. Won then.next 2. Then legitimately lost the 3rd. it has been a true Bo5 he would've won.

  • Jilora.9524Jilora.9524 Member ✭✭✭

    It's both skill and shadyness. Of course if you a top 10 player and team up and only que every match with another top 10 player then que away from other top 10 players who que with each other then you get matched with well below your skill level and can feel so great never losing. If you are too much of a kitten to never solo que ever w/o checking your frands list to see if other good players are playing and if they are you log into a alt to farm lower tier then yes you are the problem and also a lil kitten. Now if you aren't doing that I'm not talking to you so don't get all emo responding.

    WvW bandwagoners have small D's and never left their house even before Covid19

  • Ryan.9387Ryan.9387 Member ✭✭✭

    Pre nerf you could play some variation of rev/fb/necro and win free against every team that wasn't playing the same. Then you win free vs every duo mechanically worse than you.

    All thats left is to avoid players who would give you a tough time, which is pretty easy.

    But why sweat to get a high rating when top 250 shares the same reward set? Beats me...

    Ps - some of you desperately need spellcheck.

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 17, 2020

    Lol the one loss is there to avoid accusations of cheating, it obviously failed to do so. They shoulda had 11 or so losses if they were smart match manipulators haha. They just make it look obvious as it is, they must think people are really simple lol more so then the majority of us do as well I mean. So in more than 100+ matches no one was close enough in skill with access to same classes etc to get lucky rounds in except one team one time lmao and the other in 60 matches same thing? Lol right. Guess there just that good.
    For all u who believe this is legit I've got some items for sale I'm sure ud be interested in lol.

  • Best players. Best classes for 2v2. You can choose your duo and communicate with them. Absolutely no outside variables like there are in 5v5 conquest. It isn't hard to avoid your friends in ranked queue as to not ruin one of your winrates.

    good lord i am absolute trash at this video game

  • Ziggityzog.7389Ziggityzog.7389 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 17, 2020

    It's as if someone uses the most broken comps available like dung beatles a pile of kitten. I'm pretty sure the "top" lol used broken comps like fb and core necro for a week till it was nerfed to hell.

    As useual just basement trolls playing off hours and using as broken of a comp as they can and claiming they are good.

    Soo much trash was swept out when the second real nerf to fb was done.

  • Zexanima.7851Zexanima.7851 Member ✭✭✭✭

    As I've pointed out before all the "tin foil hat" stuff aside if the system was working like a ranked system is suppose to they shouldn't really have higher than a 70%-ish win rate because they should be getting paired with people of similar skill level. I'm not claiming I don't deserve my personal ranking or that the top players are not good players. Due to how you can meta game the system and and top players getting paired with people in gold/plat these can cheese their win rates. Just to clarify I'm not saying top players don't deserve their spots on the leader boards, just that their win rates are not "real" but from manipulating the system. How much better meta comps are than non-meta too doesn't help either.

    Depression and anxiety are the worst...

  • mrauls.6519mrauls.6519 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Dang this thread is juicy

  • So basically as expected, people wanna be the best, but don't want to fight the best to be the best. Either way 2v2 is more legit than pug lottery conquest.

  • Dantheman.3589Dantheman.3589 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 17, 2020

    It’s honestly very simple why ppl have insane win ratios. Low population aside even playing with a duo at normal hours or “off hours” literally is like a guarantee to be against 2 ppl in gold even if you are a duo in legend, ofc that is almost always a win. Sometimes if there is one decent duo on at the time you may end up playing then over and over, for one if your duo is already much stronger than it’s a free win and if not it’s amazingly ez to dodge this duo so that you will 100% be against 2 gold solo qers.
    I don’t think it’s wintrading, but it’s a little shady that ppl play in off hours for ez legend, but not much I can do about it my suggestion just get to s decent elo like pla2-3 which I find kind of ez on meta builds rn and just climb to legend your self. Even if u cannot do this just get top 250 as all titles are the same for this season

  • apharma.3741apharma.3741 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I guess this is N/A that this is directed at as it certainly fits the meme.

    If the top spots are some no-names that no-one has seen then I'd be less concerned about the skill of the person behind the keyboard, they probably got there legit depending on your point of view but I'd be more concerned about whether the player is the account owner.

    How much real dollars are top slots being sold for again? Was it $100 on the Discord? I guess prices might have gone up with this one being unique.

  • @ventusthunder.5067 said:
    Absolutely no outside variables like there are in 5v5 conquest.

    It isn't hard to avoid your friends in ranked queue as to not ruin one of your winrates.

    Seems like an outside variable to me 🤔

    Remove or Split DuoQ, revolution of our time! 😷

  • Crab Fear.1624Crab Fear.1624 Member ✭✭✭✭

    make a 1 v 1 season, then if it is still the same, what argument will people have?

    Soon™ ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
    Fun Daredevil

  • zoopop.5630zoopop.5630 Member ✭✭✭✭

    If u guys can't beat them in 2vs2 wat makes u think 1vs1 gonna make a difference ?

    Half these post now are just straight complains about Players Skill level, Dead Specs memeing bad players and everyone crying Nerf. Ya'll need to relax and actually put some effort in either getting better or learning HOW to COUNTER certain builds/classes.

    also 2vs2 a kitten meme why is ANYONE taking it serious when the reward is a top 250 title only?

  • Gamble.4580Gamble.4580 Member ✭✭✭

    They are just that good at the game. They have been playing together for years and know their classes well enough to out play u. I know it’s hard but some people are on that level.

  • shadowpass.4236shadowpass.4236 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @zoopop.5630 said:
    If u guys can't beat them in 2vs2 wat makes u think 1vs1 gonna make a difference ?

    Half these post now are just straight complains about Players Skill level, Dead Specs memeing bad players and everyone crying Nerf. Ya'll need to relax and actually put some effort in either getting better or learning HOW to COUNTER certain builds/classes.

    also 2vs2 a kitten meme why is ANYONE taking it serious when the reward is a top 250 title only?

    Eh 2v2s are a lot different than 1v1s, especially considering the map size we're given.

    Some classes like fb and crev are very strong when paired together but definitely more manageable on their own.

  • Ithilwen.1529Ithilwen.1529 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Stand The Wall.6987 said:
    SoLo QuE OnLy

    Agreed , ranked should be solo queue only.

    Mesmerizing Girl

  • Crab Fear.1624Crab Fear.1624 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @shadowpass.4236 said:

    @zoopop.5630 said:
    If u guys can't beat them in 2vs2 wat makes u think 1vs1 gonna make a difference ?

    Half these post now are just straight complains about Players Skill level, Dead Specs memeing bad players and everyone crying Nerf. Ya'll need to relax and actually put some effort in either getting better or learning HOW to COUNTER certain builds/classes.

    also 2vs2 a kitten meme why is ANYONE taking it serious when the reward is a top 250 title only?

    Eh 2v2s are a lot different than 1v1s, especially considering the map size we're given.

    Some classes like fb and crev are very strong when paired together but definitely more manageable on their own.

    Personally, I want to know where I rank among the potatoes in 1 v 1.

    Soon™ ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
    Fun Daredevil

  • Ivarian.9018Ivarian.9018 Member ✭✭
    edited March 18, 2020

    @shadowpass.4236 said:
    Forcing solo que down the throats of other players won't change anything except kitten them off.

    Well, the contrary is also true.

    I am not advocating for removing DuoQ but Anet must enforce game parity in ranked where Duo can only plays against another Duo.

    In 2V2, the advantage of DuoQ vs SoloQ is such that mixing both Q style in an individual based leaderboard has little meaning.

    There are many reasons why the MMS is not suited today to match equally skilled teams being Solo or Duo. Let's not debate about it but the fact is it doesn't work and Solo Queing is becoming the antithesis of competitive PVP.

  • shadowpass.4236shadowpass.4236 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ivarian.9018 said:

    @shadowpass.4236 said:
    Forcing solo que down the throats of other players won't change anything except kitten them off.

    Well, the contrary is also true.

    I am not advocating for removing DuoQ but Anet must enforce game parity in ranked where Duo can only plays against another Duo.

    In 2V2, the advantage of DuoQ vs SoloQ is such that mixing both Q style in an individual based leaderboard has little meaning.

    There are many reasons why the MMS is not suited today to match equally skilled teams being Solo or Duo. Let's not debate about it but the fact is it doesn't work and Solo Queing is becoming the antithesis of competitive PVP.

    Both are bad with low pop. But duo que is the lesser of two evils.