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Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭
edited March 19, 2020 in Warrior

Samurai
If anet want to truly do something different from the norm regarding this expac how about a spear for warrior as the main added weapon but also changes to gs,sw and bow skills to fit the theme better. As a mechanic f1 and f2 are offensive and defensive stance giving the warrior access to different effects to each weapon skill and burst skill on spear,gs,bow and swords. So u could pop f1 to use offensive skills on gs as a example than hit f2 to have a sec weapon kit on gs that's more defensive, the cd on the f1 and 2 skills could be on 9 sec weapon swap and 5 with fast hands for some synergy.
I think that would not only make warrior feel significantly different it would be a change of formula from last two expac all while sticking to theme.
I know people are thinking god another ask for a samurai spec lol.

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  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:
    Samurai
    If anet want to truly do something different from the norm regarding this expac how about a spear for warrior as the main added weapon but also changes to gs,sw and bow skills to fit the theme better. As a mechanic f1 and f2 are offensive and defensive stance giving the warrior access to different effects to each weapon skill and burst skill on spear,gs,bow and swords. So u could pop f1 to use offensive skills on gs as a example than hit f2 to have a sec weapon kit on gs that's more defensive, the cd on the f1 and 2 skills could be on 9 sec weapon swap and 5 with fast hands for some synergy.
    I think that would not only make warrior feel significantly different it would be a change of formula from last two expac all while sticking to theme.
    I know people are thinking god another ask for a samurai spec lol.

    This post has been brought to you by Psycoprophet's Cosplay fantasies.

    We'll be back after the commercial break with another story on the revival of the Paragon.

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 19, 2020

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:
    Samurai
    If anet want to truly do something different from the norm regarding this expac how about a spear for warrior as the main added weapon but also changes to gs,sw and bow skills to fit the theme better. As a mechanic f1 and f2 are offensive and defensive stance giving the warrior access to different effects to each weapon skill and burst skill on spear,gs,bow and swords. So u could pop f1 to use offensive skills on gs as a example than hit f2 to have a sec weapon kit on gs that's more defensive, the cd on the f1 and 2 skills could be on 9 sec weapon swap and 5 with fast hands for some synergy.
    I think that would not only make warrior feel significantly different it would be a change of formula from last two expac all while sticking to theme.
    I know people are thinking god another ask for a samurai spec lol.

    This post has been brought to you by Psycoprophet's Cosplay fantasies.

    We'll be back after the commercial break with another story on the revival of the Paragon.

    Yeah paragon definitely fits a obvious asian theme more than samurai lol what was I thinking eh?
    Who told u about my cosplay fantasy which I definitely deny.

    U don't happen to have any extra samurai armor laying around I could borrow for a friend do ya?

  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:
    Samurai
    If anet want to truly do something different from the norm regarding this expac how about a spear for warrior as the main added weapon but also changes to gs,sw and bow skills to fit the theme better. As a mechanic f1 and f2 are offensive and defensive stance giving the warrior access to different effects to each weapon skill and burst skill on spear,gs,bow and swords. So u could pop f1 to use offensive skills on gs as a example than hit f2 to have a sec weapon kit on gs that's more defensive, the cd on the f1 and 2 skills could be on 9 sec weapon swap and 5 with fast hands for some synergy.
    I think that would not only make warrior feel significantly different it would be a change of formula from last two expac all while sticking to theme.
    I know people are thinking god another ask for a samurai spec lol.

    This post has been brought to you by Psycoprophet's Cosplay fantasies.

    We'll be back after the commercial break with another story on the revival of the Paragon.

    Yeah paragon definitely fits a obvious asian theme more than samurai lol what was I thinking eh?
    Who told u about my cosplay fantasy which I definitely deny.

    U don't happen to have any extra samurai armor laying around I could borrow for a friend do ya?

    No, I agree that Paragon does not fit Cantha. Although Paragons did end up there during GW1, so it could happen in the form of a Kurzick Bard.

    Land Spear would be great. I still would prefer pistol/pistol and smoke fields.

  • Thornwolf.9721Thornwolf.9721 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Hate to say it but I think we will get Monk. Mainly because Warrior lacks a support option; And with the tactics rework it looks like that is 100% on the mind of the dev's right now.

  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:
    Hate to say it but I think we will get Monk. Mainly because Warrior lacks a support option; And with the tactics rework it looks like that is 100% on the mind of the dev's right now.

    NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give that kitten to the Guardian where it belongs.

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:
    Hate to say it but I think we will get Monk. Mainly because Warrior lacks a support option; And with the tactics rework it looks like that is 100% on the mind of the dev's right now.

    NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give that kitten to the Guardian where it belongs.

    That's what I thought to, I kinda though guard already had some mon in it lol

  • Thornwolf.9721Thornwolf.9721 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 19, 2020

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:
    Hate to say it but I think we will get Monk. Mainly because Warrior lacks a support option; And with the tactics rework it looks like that is 100% on the mind of the dev's right now.

    NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give that kitten to the Guardian where it belongs.

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:
    Hate to say it but I think we will get Monk. Mainly because Warrior lacks a support option; And with the tactics rework it looks like that is 100% on the mind of the dev's right now.

    NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give that kitten to the Guardian where it belongs.

    That's what I thought to, I kinda though guard already had some mon in it lol

    Im pretty sure warrior will get it, they want to make a support warrior. Tactics is indicitive of this; Why rework it into a support line if it was not meant to synergize with the next E-spec? Im pretty sure guardian will get a more selfish spec, they have two support specs. (DH is less so than FB, but they both provide tons of support) Warrior is in need of a support spec that bennefits a group; Monk is it. Melee staff, martial arts style but pays homage to the old monk from guild wars 1 as it stands if they gave it to guardian it would feel way to samey.

    Sorry warrior will not get anything close to a samurai or ninja. Im pretty sure we are in for the monk~ Only because logically it makes sense seeing as they have been using E-specs to fill roles core classes lack.

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:
    Hate to say it but I think we will get Monk. Mainly because Warrior lacks a support option; And with the tactics rework it looks like that is 100% on the mind of the dev's right now.

    NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give that kitten to the Guardian where it belongs.

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:
    Hate to say it but I think we will get Monk. Mainly because Warrior lacks a support option; And with the tactics rework it looks like that is 100% on the mind of the dev's right now.

    NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give that kitten to the Guardian where it belongs.

    That's what I thought to, I kinda though guard already had some mon in it lol

    Im pretty sure warrior will get it, they want to make a support warrior. Tactics is indicitive of this; Why rework it into a support line if it was not meant to synergize with the next E-spec? Im pretty sure guardian will get a more selfish spec, they have two support specs. (DH is less so than FB, but they both provide tons of support) Warrior is in need of a support spec that bennefits a group; Monk is it. Melee staff, martial arts style but pays homage to the old monk from guild wars 1 as it stands if they gave it to guardian it would feel way to samey.

    Sorry warrior will not get anything close to a samurai or ninja. Im pretty sure we are in for the monk~ Only because logically it makes sense seeing as they have been using E-specs to fill roles core classes lack.

    Really bringing me down here man, not gonna lie lol

  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:
    Hate to say it but I think we will get Monk. Mainly because Warrior lacks a support option; And with the tactics rework it looks like that is 100% on the mind of the dev's right now.

    NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give that kitten to the Guardian where it belongs.

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:
    Hate to say it but I think we will get Monk. Mainly because Warrior lacks a support option; And with the tactics rework it looks like that is 100% on the mind of the dev's right now.

    NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give that kitten to the Guardian where it belongs.

    That's what I thought to, I kinda though guard already had some mon in it lol

    Im pretty sure warrior will get it, they want to make a support warrior. Tactics is indicitive of this; Why rework it into a support line if it was not meant to synergize with the next E-spec? Im pretty sure guardian will get a more selfish spec, they have two support specs. (DH is less so than FB, but they both provide tons of support) Warrior is in need of a support spec that bennefits a group; Monk is it. Melee staff, martial arts style but pays homage to the old monk from guild wars 1 as it stands if they gave it to guardian it would feel way to samey.

    Sorry warrior will not get anything close to a samurai or ninja. Im pretty sure we are in for the monk~ Only because logically it makes sense seeing as they have been using E-specs to fill roles core classes lack.

    You can run support with pistols or a spear, see Paragon from GW1.

  • Thornwolf.9721Thornwolf.9721 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:
    Hate to say it but I think we will get Monk. Mainly because Warrior lacks a support option; And with the tactics rework it looks like that is 100% on the mind of the dev's right now.

    NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give that kitten to the Guardian where it belongs.

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:
    Hate to say it but I think we will get Monk. Mainly because Warrior lacks a support option; And with the tactics rework it looks like that is 100% on the mind of the dev's right now.

    NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give that kitten to the Guardian where it belongs.

    That's what I thought to, I kinda though guard already had some mon in it lol

    Im pretty sure warrior will get it, they want to make a support warrior. Tactics is indicitive of this; Why rework it into a support line if it was not meant to synergize with the next E-spec? Im pretty sure guardian will get a more selfish spec, they have two support specs. (DH is less so than FB, but they both provide tons of support) Warrior is in need of a support spec that bennefits a group; Monk is it. Melee staff, martial arts style but pays homage to the old monk from guild wars 1 as it stands if they gave it to guardian it would feel way to samey.

    Sorry warrior will not get anything close to a samurai or ninja. Im pretty sure we are in for the monk~ Only because logically it makes sense seeing as they have been using E-specs to fill roles core classes lack.

    You can run support with pistols or a spear, see Paragon from GW1.

    Im pretty sure paragon will go to Guardian, seeing as I believe its been hinted that guardians are both monks/paragons kind merged. The paragon will more than likely be their selfish spec with them running stances, and while they can trait to share those stances with allies much like soul-beast I doubt it will be a support. Its virtues will become chants/war-cries and they will basically be the guardians changed playstyle.

    Im pretty sure these E-specs will have guardian and warrior when spec'd into these trees, swap places a bit and have a support warrior and a selfish guardian. Monk would be a completely new theme to warrior it could have bright almost blinding golden light as its aesthetic with high mobility, CC and support. And guardians could get a almost neon blue color to paragon if not blueish white, and basically be using their wrath to bring down enemies.

  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:
    Hate to say it but I think we will get Monk. Mainly because Warrior lacks a support option; And with the tactics rework it looks like that is 100% on the mind of the dev's right now.

    NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give that kitten to the Guardian where it belongs.

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:
    Hate to say it but I think we will get Monk. Mainly because Warrior lacks a support option; And with the tactics rework it looks like that is 100% on the mind of the dev's right now.

    NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give that kitten to the Guardian where it belongs.

    That's what I thought to, I kinda though guard already had some mon in it lol

    Im pretty sure warrior will get it, they want to make a support warrior. Tactics is indicitive of this; Why rework it into a support line if it was not meant to synergize with the next E-spec? Im pretty sure guardian will get a more selfish spec, they have two support specs. (DH is less so than FB, but they both provide tons of support) Warrior is in need of a support spec that bennefits a group; Monk is it. Melee staff, martial arts style but pays homage to the old monk from guild wars 1 as it stands if they gave it to guardian it would feel way to samey.

    Sorry warrior will not get anything close to a samurai or ninja. Im pretty sure we are in for the monk~ Only because logically it makes sense seeing as they have been using E-specs to fill roles core classes lack.

    You can run support with pistols or a spear, see Paragon from GW1.

    Im pretty sure paragon will go to Guardian, seeing as I believe its been hinted that guardians are both monks/paragons kind merged. The paragon will more than likely be their selfish spec with them running stances, and while they can trait to share those stances with allies much like soul-beast I doubt it will be a support. Its virtues will become chants/war-cries and they will basically be the guardians changed playstyle.

    Im pretty sure these E-specs will have guardian and warrior when spec'd into these trees, swap places a bit and have a support warrior and a selfish guardian. Monk would be a completely new theme to warrior it could have bright almost blinding golden light as its aesthetic with high mobility, CC and support. And guardians could get a almost neon blue color to paragon if not blueish white, and basically be using their wrath to bring down enemies.

    So give guards monk then, it fits them more than Warrior and Paragon fits the Warrior more than monk.

  • Thornwolf.9721Thornwolf.9721 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:
    Hate to say it but I think we will get Monk. Mainly because Warrior lacks a support option; And with the tactics rework it looks like that is 100% on the mind of the dev's right now.

    NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give that kitten to the Guardian where it belongs.

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:
    Hate to say it but I think we will get Monk. Mainly because Warrior lacks a support option; And with the tactics rework it looks like that is 100% on the mind of the dev's right now.

    NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give that kitten to the Guardian where it belongs.

    That's what I thought to, I kinda though guard already had some mon in it lol

    Im pretty sure warrior will get it, they want to make a support warrior. Tactics is indicitive of this; Why rework it into a support line if it was not meant to synergize with the next E-spec? Im pretty sure guardian will get a more selfish spec, they have two support specs. (DH is less so than FB, but they both provide tons of support) Warrior is in need of a support spec that bennefits a group; Monk is it. Melee staff, martial arts style but pays homage to the old monk from guild wars 1 as it stands if they gave it to guardian it would feel way to samey.

    Sorry warrior will not get anything close to a samurai or ninja. Im pretty sure we are in for the monk~ Only because logically it makes sense seeing as they have been using E-specs to fill roles core classes lack.

    You can run support with pistols or a spear, see Paragon from GW1.

    Im pretty sure paragon will go to Guardian, seeing as I believe its been hinted that guardians are both monks/paragons kind merged. The paragon will more than likely be their selfish spec with them running stances, and while they can trait to share those stances with allies much like soul-beast I doubt it will be a support. Its virtues will become chants/war-cries and they will basically be the guardians changed playstyle.

    Im pretty sure these E-specs will have guardian and warrior when spec'd into these trees, swap places a bit and have a support warrior and a selfish guardian. Monk would be a completely new theme to warrior it could have bright almost blinding golden light as its aesthetic with high mobility, CC and support. And guardians could get a almost neon blue color to paragon if not blueish white, and basically be using their wrath to bring down enemies.

    So give guards monk then, it fits them more than Warrior and Paragon fits the Warrior more than monk.

    Its not gonna happen, Warrior has everything but staff. The idea they will make new weapons or bring underwater weapons on land is simply hubris, they already told us long ago they never would. I doubt they will now~ Monk to warrior for melee staff. (maybe ranged idk.... warrior kinda suck in ranged fights.) And guardian will get paragon...

    As much as you might not like it, Pretty sure thats how its gonna be. Strictly based on the roles these two classes can't fill, Warrior is a horrible support right now and is still to selfish to fit the role. A more martial monk with a staff, and healing based on the damage they deal with high mobility fits the warriors aesthetic and feels like something they would do.

    Guardian being slower but more prone to fighting on a more bruiser playstyle would fit paragon if it came to the game, I have no clue what weapon they'd give it given that we don't have spear. But I feel like its the most probable of the ideas going toward that class; Perhaps duel daggers or some such thing but that might feel too much like spellbreaker.

    You guys need to look at roles, I honestly doubt paragon is going to happen unless they change their mind about new weapons. Plus the sunspears/paragons became to Spellbreakers according to lore and their daggers represent the broken spear heads of their order; So technically paragons already exist and are on the warrior. They just aren't what they used to be. So now that I think about it I have no freak'n clue what they'd do for guardian to be honest.....

  • Blocki.4931Blocki.4931 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Don't care what anybody says, I want Mainhand Shield and live out my Door Fantasy

    I rather choose death.

  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:
    Hate to say it but I think we will get Monk. Mainly because Warrior lacks a support option; And with the tactics rework it looks like that is 100% on the mind of the dev's right now.

    NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give that kitten to the Guardian where it belongs.

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:
    Hate to say it but I think we will get Monk. Mainly because Warrior lacks a support option; And with the tactics rework it looks like that is 100% on the mind of the dev's right now.

    NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give that kitten to the Guardian where it belongs.

    That's what I thought to, I kinda though guard already had some mon in it lol

    Im pretty sure warrior will get it, they want to make a support warrior. Tactics is indicitive of this; Why rework it into a support line if it was not meant to synergize with the next E-spec? Im pretty sure guardian will get a more selfish spec, they have two support specs. (DH is less so than FB, but they both provide tons of support) Warrior is in need of a support spec that bennefits a group; Monk is it. Melee staff, martial arts style but pays homage to the old monk from guild wars 1 as it stands if they gave it to guardian it would feel way to samey.

    Sorry warrior will not get anything close to a samurai or ninja. Im pretty sure we are in for the monk~ Only because logically it makes sense seeing as they have been using E-specs to fill roles core classes lack.

    You can run support with pistols or a spear, see Paragon from GW1.

    Im pretty sure paragon will go to Guardian, seeing as I believe its been hinted that guardians are both monks/paragons kind merged. The paragon will more than likely be their selfish spec with them running stances, and while they can trait to share those stances with allies much like soul-beast I doubt it will be a support. Its virtues will become chants/war-cries and they will basically be the guardians changed playstyle.

    Im pretty sure these E-specs will have guardian and warrior when spec'd into these trees, swap places a bit and have a support warrior and a selfish guardian. Monk would be a completely new theme to warrior it could have bright almost blinding golden light as its aesthetic with high mobility, CC and support. And guardians could get a almost neon blue color to paragon if not blueish white, and basically be using their wrath to bring down enemies.

    So give guards monk then, it fits them more than Warrior and Paragon fits the Warrior more than monk.

    Its not gonna happen, Warrior has everything but staff. The idea they will make new weapons or bring underwater weapons on land is simply hubris, they already told us long ago they never would. I doubt they will now~ Monk to warrior for melee staff. (maybe ranged idk.... warrior kinda suck in ranged fights.) And guardian will get paragon...

    As much as you might not like it, Pretty sure thats how its gonna be. Strictly based on the roles these two classes can't fill, Warrior is a horrible support right now and is still to selfish to fit the role. A more martial monk with a staff, and healing based on the damage they deal with high mobility fits the warriors aesthetic and feels like something they would do.

    Guardian being slower but more prone to fighting on a more bruiser playstyle would fit paragon if it came to the game, I have no clue what weapon they'd give it given that we don't have spear. But I feel like its the most probable of the ideas going toward that class; Perhaps duel daggers or some such thing but that might feel too much like spellbreaker.

    You guys need to look at roles, I honestly doubt paragon is going to happen unless they change their mind about new weapons. Plus the sunspears/paragons became to Spellbreakers according to lore and their daggers represent the broken spear heads of their order; So technically paragons already exist and are on the warrior. They just aren't what they used to be. So now that I think about it I have no freak'n clue what they'd do for guardian to be honest.....

    Warrior has everything but pistol/pistol, short bow, focus, scepter, and staff. Staff isn't needed for support. It can be done with other weapons.

  • Thornwolf.9721Thornwolf.9721 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:
    Hate to say it but I think we will get Monk. Mainly because Warrior lacks a support option; And with the tactics rework it looks like that is 100% on the mind of the dev's right now.

    NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give that kitten to the Guardian where it belongs.

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Thornwolf.9721 said:
    Hate to say it but I think we will get Monk. Mainly because Warrior lacks a support option; And with the tactics rework it looks like that is 100% on the mind of the dev's right now.

    NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Give that kitten to the Guardian where it belongs.

    That's what I thought to, I kinda though guard already had some mon in it lol

    Im pretty sure warrior will get it, they want to make a support warrior. Tactics is indicitive of this; Why rework it into a support line if it was not meant to synergize with the next E-spec? Im pretty sure guardian will get a more selfish spec, they have two support specs. (DH is less so than FB, but they both provide tons of support) Warrior is in need of a support spec that bennefits a group; Monk is it. Melee staff, martial arts style but pays homage to the old monk from guild wars 1 as it stands if they gave it to guardian it would feel way to samey.

    Sorry warrior will not get anything close to a samurai or ninja. Im pretty sure we are in for the monk~ Only because logically it makes sense seeing as they have been using E-specs to fill roles core classes lack.

    You can run support with pistols or a spear, see Paragon from GW1.

    Im pretty sure paragon will go to Guardian, seeing as I believe its been hinted that guardians are both monks/paragons kind merged. The paragon will more than likely be their selfish spec with them running stances, and while they can trait to share those stances with allies much like soul-beast I doubt it will be a support. Its virtues will become chants/war-cries and they will basically be the guardians changed playstyle.

    Im pretty sure these E-specs will have guardian and warrior when spec'd into these trees, swap places a bit and have a support warrior and a selfish guardian. Monk would be a completely new theme to warrior it could have bright almost blinding golden light as its aesthetic with high mobility, CC and support. And guardians could get a almost neon blue color to paragon if not blueish white, and basically be using their wrath to bring down enemies.

    So give guards monk then, it fits them more than Warrior and Paragon fits the Warrior more than monk.

    Its not gonna happen, Warrior has everything but staff. The idea they will make new weapons or bring underwater weapons on land is simply hubris, they already told us long ago they never would. I doubt they will now~ Monk to warrior for melee staff. (maybe ranged idk.... warrior kinda suck in ranged fights.) And guardian will get paragon...

    As much as you might not like it, Pretty sure thats how its gonna be. Strictly based on the roles these two classes can't fill, Warrior is a horrible support right now and is still to selfish to fit the role. A more martial monk with a staff, and healing based on the damage they deal with high mobility fits the warriors aesthetic and feels like something they would do.

    Guardian being slower but more prone to fighting on a more bruiser playstyle would fit paragon if it came to the game, I have no clue what weapon they'd give it given that we don't have spear. But I feel like its the most probable of the ideas going toward that class; Perhaps duel daggers or some such thing but that might feel too much like spellbreaker.

    You guys need to look at roles, I honestly doubt paragon is going to happen unless they change their mind about new weapons. Plus the sunspears/paragons became to Spellbreakers according to lore and their daggers represent the broken spear heads of their order; So technically paragons already exist and are on the warrior. They just aren't what they used to be. So now that I think about it I have no freak'n clue what they'd do for guardian to be honest.....

    Warrior has everything but pistol/pistol, short bow, focus, scepter, and staff. Staff isn't needed for support. It can be done with other weapons.

    But why would they when staff is there, we know they can make it a melee weapon. (Rev and thief) And with paragon being the spell-breaker, guardian likely to get a selfish spec and me doubting they'd go for scepter, shortbow or pistol it leaves focus and staff. They could make focus's into a fist weapon and use it that way on warrior which could be cool, I doubt it but I think it might be probable.

    Pistols on warrior for cantha? Nah probably for the expansion after. (Asuran themed?) Scepter we know won't happen because they don't or they didn't want warrior delving into hard magic. So Staff is more than likely what they will go with, with you using your chi or Ki/chakara or whatever may have you to exude off you while you fight to buff and heal allies. That is what I think is probable for this expansion~ It in no way will be 100% representing the monk of old, rather it will be something new but it will be called the monk. (Or the Shaolin or some such thing.)

  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Example espec with pistols and support:
    https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/92430/elite-spec-idea-commander#latest

    Also, shameless plug.

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭

    SAMURAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'll show myself out.

  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:
    SAMURAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'll show myself out.

    Lol, honestly spear or pistol/pistol would be fine. I'm down for samurai as well.

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 19, 2020

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:
    SAMURAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'll show myself out.

    Lol, honestly spear or pistol/pistol would be fine. I'm down for samurai as well.

    U... I like u lol

  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:
    SAMURAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'll show myself out.

    Lol, honestly spear or pistol/pistol would be fine. I'm down for samurai as well.

    U... I like u lol

    Well, let's be serious. HoT gave us a savage land's version of a warrior, PoF gave us the warrior of a resistance group, Cantha will give is it's version of a warrior, and that won't be a healer or a monk.

    Pistol/pistol focused on support, or spear based on tactics and rapid assaults is what we will get.

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 19, 2020

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:
    SAMURAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'll show myself out.

    Lol, honestly spear or pistol/pistol would be fine. I'm down for samurai as well.

    U... I like u lol

    Well, let's be serious. HoT gave us a savage land's version of a warrior, PoF gave us the warrior of a resistance group, Cantha will give is it's version of a warrior, and that won't be a healer or a monk.

    Pistol/pistol focused on support, or spear based on tactics and rapid assaults is what we will get.

    all I read from that is tactic rapid assaulting spear wielding samurai and sounds awesome so I think u should make it happen since u got everyone's Hope's up, don't know how ur gonna do it but that's on u so.... lol

  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:
    SAMURAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'll show myself out.

    Lol, honestly spear or pistol/pistol would be fine. I'm down for samurai as well.

    U... I like u lol

    Well, let's be serious. HoT gave us a savage land's version of a warrior, PoF gave us the warrior of a resistance group, Cantha will give is it's version of a warrior, and that won't be a healer or a monk.

    Pistol/pistol focused on support, or spear based on tactics and rapid assaults is what we will get.

    all I read from that is tactic rapid assaulting spear wielding samurai and sounds awesome so I think u should make it happen since u got everyone's Hope's up, don't know how ur gonna do it but that's on u so.... lol

    See that thread I posted above? Swap or pistols for Spears, add some sweaping aoes to the weapon bar, a leap, a knock back, and a copy of rev staff 5 but without the CC. Keep the finishers theme. I think Anet should revitalize combo fields and finishers, so new especs are a good start.

    I'll post a spear version of that proposed spec in tomorrow.

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 19, 2020

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:
    SAMURAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'll show myself out.

    Lol, honestly spear or pistol/pistol would be fine. I'm down for samurai as well.

    U... I like u lol

    Well, let's be serious. HoT gave us a savage land's version of a warrior, PoF gave us the warrior of a resistance group, Cantha will give is it's version of a warrior, and that won't be a healer or a monk.

    Pistol/pistol focused on support, or spear based on tactics and rapid assaults is what we will get.

    all I read from that is tactic rapid assaulting spear wielding samurai and sounds awesome so I think u should make it happen since u got everyone's Hope's up, don't know how ur gonna do it but that's on u so.... lol

    See that thread I posted above? Swap or pistols for Spears, add some sweaping aoes to the weapon bar, a leap, a knock back, and a copy of rev staff 5 but without the CC. Keep the finishers theme. I think Anet should revitalize combo fields and finishers, so new especs are a good start.

    I'll post a spear version of that proposed spec in tomorrow.

    Let's make this happen lol.

  • Mthe mystery.4615Mthe mystery.4615 Member ✭✭✭
    edited March 26, 2020

    Its prob going to be pistol pistol with explosives and stuff like that. Won't be support. Will prob be more like Scrapper in terms of damage mitigation.

  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Mthe mystery.4615 said:
    Its prob going to be pistol pistol with explosives and stuff like that. Won't be support. Will prob be more like Scrapper in terms of damage mitigation.

    Depends on how it's built. It could bring back powerful synergy but more powerful and with more boons and barrier on finishers.

  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 26, 2020

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:
    SAMURAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'll show myself out.

    Lol, honestly spear or pistol/pistol would be fine. I'm down for samurai as well.

    U... I like u lol

    Well, let's be serious. HoT gave us a savage land's version of a warrior, PoF gave us the warrior of a resistance group, Cantha will give is it's version of a warrior, and that won't be a healer or a monk.

    Pistol/pistol focused on support, or spear based on tactics and rapid assaults is what we will get.

    all I read from that is tactic rapid assaulting spear wielding samurai and sounds awesome so I think u should make it happen since u got everyone's Hope's up, don't know how ur gonna do it but that's on u so.... lol

    See that thread I posted above? Swap or pistols for Spears, add some sweaping aoes to the weapon bar, a leap, a knock back, and a copy of rev staff 5 but without the CC. Keep the finishers theme. I think Anet should revitalize combo fields and finishers, so new especs are a good start.

    I'll post a spear version of that proposed spec in tomorrow.

    Let's make this happen lol.

    I owe you this still, I'm sorry. This weekend I promise >< kid came down with a fever so it's been rough this week.

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:
    SAMURAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'll show myself out.

    Lol, honestly spear or pistol/pistol would be fine. I'm down for samurai as well.

    U... I like u lol

    Well, let's be serious. HoT gave us a savage land's version of a warrior, PoF gave us the warrior of a resistance group, Cantha will give is it's version of a warrior, and that won't be a healer or a monk.

    Pistol/pistol focused on support, or spear based on tactics and rapid assaults is what we will get.

    all I read from that is tactic rapid assaulting spear wielding samurai and sounds awesome so I think u should make it happen since u got everyone's Hope's up, don't know how ur gonna do it but that's on u so.... lol

    See that thread I posted above? Swap or pistols for Spears, add some sweaping aoes to the weapon bar, a leap, a knock back, and a copy of rev staff 5 but without the CC. Keep the finishers theme. I think Anet should revitalize combo fields and finishers, so new especs are a good start.

    I'll post a spear version of that proposed spec in tomorrow.

    Let's make this happen lol.

    I owe you this still, I'm sorry. This weekend I promise >< kid came down with a fever so it's been rough this week.

    sry to hear that :( hopefully the little one feels better soon.

  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:
    SAMURAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'll show myself out.

    Lol, honestly spear or pistol/pistol would be fine. I'm down for samurai as well.

    U... I like u lol

    Well, let's be serious. HoT gave us a savage land's version of a warrior, PoF gave us the warrior of a resistance group, Cantha will give is it's version of a warrior, and that won't be a healer or a monk.

    Pistol/pistol focused on support, or spear based on tactics and rapid assaults is what we will get.

    all I read from that is tactic rapid assaulting spear wielding samurai and sounds awesome so I think u should make it happen since u got everyone's Hope's up, don't know how ur gonna do it but that's on u so.... lol

    See that thread I posted above? Swap or pistols for Spears, add some sweaping aoes to the weapon bar, a leap, a knock back, and a copy of rev staff 5 but without the CC. Keep the finishers theme. I think Anet should revitalize combo fields and finishers, so new especs are a good start.

    I'll post a spear version of that proposed spec in tomorrow.

    Let's make this happen lol.

    I owe you this still, I'm sorry. This weekend I promise >< kid came down with a fever so it's been rough this week.

    sry to hear that :( hopefully the little one feels better soon.

    Especially cranky after waking up and extra needy... Woke up at 12 last night and again at 5... 10 hours of sleep the past 2 days for me.

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:
    SAMURAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'll show myself out.

    Lol, honestly spear or pistol/pistol would be fine. I'm down for samurai as well.

    U... I like u lol

    Well, let's be serious. HoT gave us a savage land's version of a warrior, PoF gave us the warrior of a resistance group, Cantha will give is it's version of a warrior, and that won't be a healer or a monk.

    Pistol/pistol focused on support, or spear based on tactics and rapid assaults is what we will get.

    all I read from that is tactic rapid assaulting spear wielding samurai and sounds awesome so I think u should make it happen since u got everyone's Hope's up, don't know how ur gonna do it but that's on u so.... lol

    See that thread I posted above? Swap or pistols for Spears, add some sweaping aoes to the weapon bar, a leap, a knock back, and a copy of rev staff 5 but without the CC. Keep the finishers theme. I think Anet should revitalize combo fields and finishers, so new especs are a good start.

    I'll post a spear version of that proposed spec in tomorrow.

    Let's make this happen lol.

    I owe you this still, I'm sorry. This weekend I promise >< kid came down with a fever so it's been rough this week.

    sry to hear that :( hopefully the little one feels better soon.

    Especially cranky after waking up and extra needy... Woke up at 12 last night and again at 5... 10 hours of sleep the past 2 days for me.

    Haha yeah that's rough. I mean their definitely worth it but oh man at times.....

  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:
    SAMURAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'll show myself out.

    Lol, honestly spear or pistol/pistol would be fine. I'm down for samurai as well.

    U... I like u lol

    Well, let's be serious. HoT gave us a savage land's version of a warrior, PoF gave us the warrior of a resistance group, Cantha will give is it's version of a warrior, and that won't be a healer or a monk.

    Pistol/pistol focused on support, or spear based on tactics and rapid assaults is what we will get.

    all I read from that is tactic rapid assaulting spear wielding samurai and sounds awesome so I think u should make it happen since u got everyone's Hope's up, don't know how ur gonna do it but that's on u so.... lol

    See that thread I posted above? Swap or pistols for Spears, add some sweaping aoes to the weapon bar, a leap, a knock back, and a copy of rev staff 5 but without the CC. Keep the finishers theme. I think Anet should revitalize combo fields and finishers, so new especs are a good start.

    I'll post a spear version of that proposed spec in tomorrow.

    Let's make this happen lol.

    I owe you this still, I'm sorry. This weekend I promise >< kid came down with a fever so it's been rough this week.

    sry to hear that :( hopefully the little one feels better soon.

    Especially cranky after waking up and extra needy... Woke up at 12 last night and again at 5... 10 hours of sleep the past 2 days for me.

    Haha yeah that's rough. I mean their definitely worth it but oh man at times.....

    Sappy but true, everything they say about having kids is true. Good and bad. I swear to Melandru I'm tired of him pooping down his pants legs and having to race the Corgis to get to it first... :grimace:

  • draxynnic.3719draxynnic.3719 Member ✭✭✭✭

    While I suspect most of the Expansion 3 elite specs are likely to be Asian-influenced to at least some extent, I don't think it's likely to be something like "samurai" - that's a specifically Japanese thing, and Arenanet didn't have anything that specifically Japanese in Factions, nor have they done anything that's so specific to a single real-world nation in general. A samurai-influenced set of abilities and playstyle may well happen, but at the very least I doubt it would have that name.

    Regarding a monk-oriented specialisation... guardian really does have the warrior/monk theme already nailed down for any 'monk' that bears any resemblance to the GW1 monk. Some form of support-oriented warrior specialisation may well come, and it might even have a staff, but I hope they'd be able to find something more imaginative for it than 'just add monk magic'. For instance, maybe it could be a kind of inverse Berserker that uses water magic, or it might pick up some ritualist-like abilities to support itself and allies.

  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @draxynnic.3719 said:
    While I suspect most of the Expansion 3 elite specs are likely to be Asian-influenced to at least some extent, I don't think it's likely to be something like "samurai" - that's a specifically Japanese thing, and Arenanet didn't have anything that specifically Japanese in Factions, nor have they done anything that's so specific to a single real-world nation in general. A samurai-influenced set of abilities and playstyle may well happen, but at the very least I doubt it would have that name.

    Regarding a monk-oriented specialisation... guardian really does have the warrior/monk theme already nailed down for any 'monk' that bears any resemblance to the GW1 monk. Some form of support-oriented warrior specialisation may well come, and it might even have a staff, but I hope they'd be able to find something more imaginative for it than 'just add monk magic'. For instance, maybe it could be a kind of inverse Berserker that uses water magic, or it might pick up some ritualist-like abilities to support itself and allies.

    I got something that I'll throw onto the forum later. I did a pistol/pistol e-spec that was support oriented that I linked above. What I'll post for Land Spear later will be based on that thread. To give you a preview:

    Land Spear weapon bar will be similar to the Aqua Spear bar, but with some changes to deal with kiting and to add in more AoE, there will be flavor.
    I'll keep the Tactical Bursts as the new mechanic, but may change some them to fit the altered theme.
    The new skill type will be Bombs, as in Paper Bombs that you see in some anime, each of which leave fields behind for blasting and if a trait is taken they blast the field automatically when used. Water for heal, Earth, Lightning, and Fire for utilities, Elite will either be a light field or a dark field (might make it change from one to the other if a trait is taken). I want to push for Anet to revitalize fields and combos, and this is an opportunity to do so.

    Most of the traits will be the same as the thread I posted above, but I may change them to fit the new theme. I'll probably update the pistol/pistol thread while I'm at it. The Pistol/Pistol was meant to be midline support/dps. The Land Spear will be front line support/dps.

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @draxynnic.3719 said:
    While I suspect most of the Expansion 3 elite specs are likely to be Asian-influenced to at least some extent, I don't think it's likely to be something like "samurai" - that's a specifically Japanese thing, and Arenanet didn't have anything that specifically Japanese in Factions, nor have they done anything that's so specific to a single real-world nation in general. A samurai-influenced set of abilities and playstyle may well happen, but at the very least I doubt it would have that name.

    Regarding a monk-oriented specialisation... guardian really does have the warrior/monk theme already nailed down for any 'monk' that bears any resemblance to the GW1 monk. Some form of support-oriented warrior specialisation may well come, and it might even have a staff, but I hope they'd be able to find something more imaginative for it than 'just add monk magic'. For instance, maybe it could be a kind of inverse Berserker that uses water magic, or it might pick up some ritualist-like abilities to support itself and allies.

    I agree with u samurai is unlikely as it's a very specific character type and anet may not lean that way for especs like they do with cores, it was just a hopeful thought lol
    A warrior with spear would/could lead to a warrior playstyle that could be samurai esq at least lol. Right now warrior can be made to look very samurai ish but non of the warrior weapon skill except for maybe gs5 feels at all samurai ish which makes sense cuz it's a standard warrior archetype. was hoping spear would bring some of that flavor lol. Right now on a weapon/skill basis rangers gs,sw,dagger and lb are the closest to that samurai ish playstyle but I don't think anet has the creative ability to tie samurai in with ranger so warrior was best bet.
    Dual pistol warrior or spear would be great as long as they may the weapon kit interesting and hopefully useful lol.

  • Smoosh.2718Smoosh.2718 Member ✭✭✭

    I'm sticking with my want/need Pistol/Pistol with the support style lines. This 'Samurai' spec does not give what the warrior is lacking, a support build and a 1 handed ranged weapon.
    As open as i am to weeb this game up, i've never been keen on the samurai style.