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  • @Fire Attunement.9835 said:
    We want to talk a little about our plans for the next update that will affect the suite of templates features, and gather your feedback about what you hope to see from it.

    We’re calling it the Legendary Armory.

    I think many of us are very anxious about any kind of update on the progress of this. Is there anything at all you can tell us that will assure us if this is getting worked on or not?

  • This turned into one of those '"We'll definitely keep you updated so we can get feedback early on in development" -> not another mention for over half a year and counting' features huh. Going by their statement that they'd keep us updated from early in development, I guess we can deduce they haven't started yet.

  • I wish we could get an update by now. Would this be similar to the wardrobe?

    I would be happy even if we got an update that it's not going to happen. Can we get maybe more shared inventory slots? This would make switching the gear much easier. I'm already maxed out and am still willing to pay for 20 more...

  • Tulki.1458Tulki.1458 Member ✭✭✭

    I was excited and actually wanted to start creating more legendaries / complete the other two weights of legendary armour at the announcement of this feature.

    But I'm assuming since it was pushed back, and then revealed to still be in the planning phase, and now there have been no further updates, that it has been cancelled along with alliances.

  • @Tulki.1458 said:
    But I'm assuming since it was pushed back, and then revealed to still be in the planning phase, and now there have been no further updates, that it has been cancelled along with alliances.

    This is why I would be happy to get more shared slots. Armor is the only one I usually share between characters also some utilities and food. This takes most of the shared slots I have.

    Also, removing the armor from each template and switching the runes gets annoying sometimes, but I'm losing all hope... sort of prepared to deal with it at this stage. Can't wait for proposal of crafting the leg runes...
    Weapons idc about at all, ascended ones are quite cheap compared to armor.

  • Ashantara.8731Ashantara.8731 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @NotTooFoolish.7412 said:
    This is why I would be happy to get more shared slots. Armor is the only one I usually share between characters

    Ouch. Since there are no Equipment Templates, only Loadouts, it must be a pain in the behind.

    Can't wait for proposal of crafting the leg runes...

    ?? Can you explain what you mean, as they have already been available for a long time now?

  • @Ashantara.8731 said:
    ?? Can you explain what you mean, as they have already been available for a long time now?

    They are an option, but they seem to be a bit overpriced for what they offer. Grinding is a part of MMO experience, but those took it a bit too far.
    Let's take a look at Leg Heavy Boots ~300 G to complete... Legendary Rune ~380 G if you were to buy the materials.

    Crafting the legendary armor was a matter of convenience for me and the equipment templates are helping a lot e.g. on Ranger, Mesmer or Guardian. Taking the gear from HFB to BS (there are much worse examples, this is the one I've been facing recently) however, takes removing the gear from 3 templates, removing a set of runes, dropping the armor on BS, switching the stats again, popping in the runes (hopefully not for both condi and power variants). There's always an ascended option, but getting 5 sets of armor instead of 1 legendary set is not very appealing, even with the lucky drops from raids and/or fractals. Weapons are really not much of an issue, e.g. I've been getting a new ascended axe when gearing new class, despite having gen 2 Astralaria just to avoid removing it from multiple templates when sharing it with other characters (currently in use for 4 Ranger templates).

    I was very excited to get the Armory, seeing lack of the updates on the topic I'm really discouraged to go for more classes...

  • Balsa.3951Balsa.3951 Member ✭✭✭✭

    OK I guess we can forget about it.
    anyway thanks anet motivated me to make 2 underwater L weapons

    Legendary Armory ?

  • I already accepted that this only comes with the expansion. But I wouldn't be surprised if I didn't leave

  • @suzako.1526 said:
    I already accepted that this only comes with the expansion. But I wouldn't be surprised if I didn't leave

    It wouldn't make any sense to leave it for expansion and spoil it in advance. Especially since, we won't see the expansion until fall 2021. That is ofc the optimistic version.

  • My thoughts.

    You can make them withdrawable like Zenith skins in achievements tab, but limited to the amount stored in the Armory (e.g. store 2 Legendary Runes into the armory, every each character in the account can withdraw up to 2 Legendary Runes). This way, every single character can have a set of armor for themselves, thus can transmute the skins into whatever they like, and every character can have a unique appearance. Didn't read the long thread, not sure if anyone already brought this one out.

    Also, I'd love the idea to be able to use different skins on each equipment template. How about fashion slots that unaffected by armor skins? I don't mind if you make this Legendary Armors owners only perk.

  • Dark Red Killian.3946Dark Red Killian.3946 Member ✭✭✭
    edited November 26, 2020

    @Raffrey.5271 said:
    My thoughts.

    You can make them withdrawable like Zenith skins in achievements tab, but limited to the amount stored in the Armory (e.g. store 2 Legendary Runes into the armory, every each character in the account can withdraw up to 2 Legendary Runes). This way, every single character can have a set of armor for themselves, thus can transmute the skins into whatever they like, and every character can have a unique appearance. Didn't read the long thread, not sure if anyone already brought this one out.

    Also, I'd love the idea to be able to use different skins on each equipment template. How about fashion slots that unaffected by armor skins? I don't mind if you make this Legendary Armors owners only perk.

    I think having a separate box next to the armor that is just for wardrobe selection would be good. So your base armor remains unaffected. Transmutating armor just goes away. Instead, you have a transmutate slot next to the armor or weapon piece. Select the transmutate slot, pick the skin you want, pay a transmutate charge, and there you go. This can be template specific, so you can have a different look per template, and it would not affect sharing with other characters so you can pick your own looks for them. I think this is pretty solid if they can make it happen.

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Why some people sure that in legendary armory include ARMOR ?? not only weapons ??
    I am not sure .. and don't info that in armory include armor ..

    want solid balance ? - play chess.

  • @lare.5129 said:
    Why some people sure that in legendary armory include ARMOR ?? not only weapons ??
    I am not sure .. and don't info that in armory include armor ..

    Because it us stated that ANY legendary item is included in the first post. Does not say weapon or armor, but legendary item, which would mean anything with the legendary status.

  • This would be perfect especially if it included legendary runes/sigils. As making 6 legendary runes and 4 legendary sigils always seemed like a turn off to me and my guild mates. Of course it shouldn't need to be mentioned but I would hope this would include legendries already acquired and account bound.

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @High Paladin Vehiron Dartan.2415 said:
    This would be perfect especially if it included legendary runes/sigils. As making 6 legendary runes and 4 legendary sigils always seemed like a turn off to me and my guild mates. Of course it shouldn't need to be mentioned but I would hope this would include legendries already acquired and account bound.

    What you dont want a rune in your aqua breather?

  • Mauzi.5892Mauzi.5892 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 8, 2020

    @NotTooFoolish.7412 said:

    @suzako.1526 said:
    I already accepted that this only comes with the expansion. But I wouldn't be surprised if I didn't leave

    It wouldn't make any sense to leave it for expansion and spoil it in advance. Especially since, we won't see the expansion until fall 2021. That is ofc the optimistic version.

    For me it would make more sense to release it now. So people will play the game to get current legendaries and when the expansion comes, they should introduce Gen 3 legendaries, so people have an incentive to farm those to use with the armory. Both ways keep players busy and playing the game. Which at the moment is rather lackluster and boring. I'm not even sure if I will be playing gw2 anymore when the expansion comes and if I won't be, then I probably won't buy the xpac then either.

    So anything to keep us in the game should be done NOW. Short lived Icebrood Saga content is not the answer. Legendary armory is. Because prople who would never have started on their leggy might and will do so, because it makes sense. And for casual players that will take some time. Thinking to release the armory in fall 2021 in the hope that everybody will go out and make a full set or armor, sigils, runes, trinkets and all weapons is pure fantasy. And knowing how some people are, they wany everything now, which leads to them getting discouraged by all the work they have to do. And no aNet, they won't play for another 3 years until they are done with their leggys. They will rather quit or flame the forums for clover nerf or whatever.

    Just release the armory already and stop being afraid that you won't have enough content for your xpac. What good is all that content if you don't have any players left, because they got bored and switched to other games?

  • @Fire Attunement.9835 said:
    We want to talk a little about our plans for the next update that will affect the suite of templates features, and gather your feedback about what you hope to see from it.

    We’re calling it the Legendary Armory.

    Here’s a quick description of how it will work—when you bind a legendary item to your account, it will be added to the Legendary Armory. Any legendary item that is added to the Legendary Armory will become available for use by all the characters across your entire account at the same time. This removes the need for you to swap legendary equipment between characters through your bank or shared inventory. This feature will also come with updates to Equipment Template functionality to make it easier to copy the configuration of equipped legendary items from one Equipment Template to another template on the same character.

    Here are our goals for the Legendary Armory feature:

    • Make it feel more valuable to earn and use legendary equipment, while also making it easier to use legendary items with the Equipment Template feature.
    • Remove the need for players to swap account-bound legendary items between characters.
    • Make it easier to copy the configuration of equipped legendary items from one Equipment Template tab to another template on the same character.

    Let us know your thoughts in this thread. Thank you all!

    Can we get an update ANet?? Lots of us waiting to know if it will come with the new expansion or if it's even coming at all...

  • Christmas wish to anet:
    Please give us some news on this.

  • "And I thought I saw a two"

  • Excursion.9752Excursion.9752 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I've made 20 legendary items since the announcement. I've done all this work and we can even get a few key presses to let us know what is going on... Bad form... :confused:

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  • @Excursion.9752 said:
    I've made 20 legendary items since the announcement. I've done all this work and we can even get a few key presses to let us know what is going on... Bad form... :confused:

    Same, I been bustin my hump trying to get armor sets one of each made, and now weapons so my characters can share them. I guess I just keep working and maybe eventually they will update this template system to be more legendary friendly (should have been a release feature IMO.)

  • We need Legendary +9AR/+5 Infusions... and please make current +9/+5 Infusions useful in crafting the Legendary Infusions.

  • The amount of entitlement in this thread is astonishing.

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭

    someone already craft leg sets? all sure that wiht EoD we will not get some new type armor, wit some additional socket that odl armor or weapons not have? =)

    want solid balance ? - play chess.

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @lare.5129 said:
    someone already craft leg sets? all sure that wiht EoD we will not get some new type armor, wit some additional socket that odl armor or weapons not have? =)

    Yea then legendaries will get upgraded, same way they got upgraded to ascended nice try tho.

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Linken.6345 said:
    Yea then legendaries will get upgraded

    if you look around how it done in all other games - answer no. Strong typed NO :)
    Ofc you can still use old armor for old content but new raid wings and new dungions from EoD can be closed for you.

    , same way they got upgraded to ascended nice try tho.

    again - no. We can just predict, but be sure - ofc no.

    Let it see. We can't be sure.

    want solid balance ? - play chess.

  • Vegeta.2563Vegeta.2563 Member ✭✭✭

    @Random Wax Orc.7695 said:
    We need Legendary +9AR/+5 Infusions... and please make current +9/+5 Infusions useful in crafting the Legendary Infusions.

    And an option to convert an aura infusion into Legendary, but still keep its aura, however account binding it.

  • It’s something come to idea in my mind for Legendary Armory designs to make it easier and comfortable what we can use it simply. I did some read some of the Legendary Armor people suggestions are great ideas. Maybe I missed the information, let me know about them what I did write this post.

    First, I’d only one thing I like to focus on the skins. Take them into separate from the bounded gears turn into the Transmute Skin Equipment tab with the changing button of Standard Equipment and PvP Equipment tabs in the character bound’s “any name” Template tabs. So, we can use multi skin fashion with each power, heal, or more PvE/WvW stats instead of a single fashion with those multi stats. Fashion Wars! Only we can pay the new template tabs to unlock each of them and using the transmutation charges for the skins.

    Second, for Legendary gears’ and weapons’ stats, we can use the identified symbols on the Standard Equipment tab. For example, you picks the ‘axe’ logo or red diamond gem on the Legendary Chest Armor as its named of Berserker with the stats like the pvp amulet’s symbols, but it’s each of them on the gears and weapons like head, shoulder, etc… with PvE/WvW stats. It’s showing it in the Standard Equipment.

    Third, for Legendary Weapons, if I change my Greatsword turn into the Mace/Shield while the Transmute Skin Equipment active, it will vanish to hide in the Transmute Skin Equipment system and show the Mace/Shield skins like normal what we have the skins… Or.. Set them into the Legendary Weaponry like the Legendary Armory? Possibly, they will be in the new Legendary Armory/Weaponry (account bounded) Inventories. Is it? Maybe. Help here what you get an idea, GW2 and ANets Friends. I hope you figure it out with my ideas. God blesses the ANet designers get the motivations.

    Forth, the Legendary Armory Inventories, it will be automatically addition after use the legendary armors, weapons, sigils, and runes in the slots after used them. Unless… we can buy something usefully slots with an in-game gold or gem.

    Last, for Wardrobe, simply we need add the Transmute Template Tabs in top of the wardrobe tab like the Equipment tab's template tabs or standard/pvp equipment changing tabs. So it will easy to set the skin in it instead of we will keep changing between Equipment and Wardrobe tabs.

    I hope they will help your ideas about my flexible suggestions, ANets. I will looking forward to the Legendary Armory and EoD expansion.

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @lare.5129 said:

    @Linken.6345 said:
    Yea then legendaries will get upgraded

    if you look around how it done in all other games - answer no. Strong typed NO :)
    Ofc you can still use old armor for old content but new raid wings and new dungions from EoD can be closed for you.

    , same way they got upgraded to ascended nice try tho.

    again - no. We can just predict, but be sure - ofc no.

    Let it see. We can't be sure.

    Sure other games being the key of your post here, but if you look how gw2 have done it you see its like my first statment my friend.

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Linken.6345 said:
    Sure other games being the key of your post here, but if you look how gw2 have done it you see its like my first statment my friend.

    I don't want put any bet. It can be ? yes, it can not be ? yes. Try think about % is wrong way. Anyway we know that it is not 100% in any side

    want solid balance ? - play chess.

  • Cyninja.2954Cyninja.2954 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 7, 2021

    @lare.5129 said:

    @Linken.6345 said:
    Yea then legendaries will get upgraded

    if you look around how it done in all other games - answer no. Strong typed NO :)
    Ofc you can still use old armor for old content but new raid wings and new dungions from EoD can be closed for you.

    We don't have to look to other games when we have an example of how things were handled in THIS game.

    @lare.5129 said:

    @Linken.6345 said:
    , same way they got upgraded to ascended nice try tho.

    again - no. We can just predict, but be sure - ofc no.

    Let it see. We can't be sure.

    Obviously we can't know for sure. Then again, why would there be an announcement about legendary armory 1.5 years in advance (and likely before there were ANY plans in place for EoD given the expansion was in a design phase at that moment in time), when it would not even apply to current legendary gear?

    Somehow your logic does not add up.

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 7, 2021

    @Cyninja.2954 said:
    Obviously we can't know for sure. Then again, why would there be an announcement about legendary armory 1.5 years in advance (and likely before there were ANY plans in place for EoD given the expansion was in a design phase at that moment in time), when it would not even apply to current legendary gear?

    some thing can merged in result ..

    Somehow your logic does not add up.

    I don't try find any logic. It is useless thing in real live. I just mention what future is unknown.

    want solid balance ? - play chess.

  • BunjiKugashira.9754BunjiKugashira.9754 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @lare.5129 said:

    @Linken.6345 said:
    Yea then legendaries will get upgraded

    if you look around how it done in all other games - answer no. Strong typed NO :)
    Ofc you can still use old armor for old content but new raid wings and new dungions from EoD can be closed for you.

    , same way they got upgraded to ascended nice try tho.

    again - no. We can just predict, but be sure - ofc no.

    Let it see. We can't be sure.

    This isn't other games though. We've had the situation where new gear came out that was better than legendary. ANet just raised all existing legendary gear to the new max level. Quote: "Legendary items were always intended to be on par with other “best-in-slot” items."

    So we don't have to predict anything, we can just take ANet's word and past actions on this matter. Legendary items will always be "best-in-slot".
    https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/linsey-murdock-unveils-new-high-end-ascended-gear/

    Bugtracker: Costume Brawl, Sunqua Clouds
    Announcementtracker: Alliances, Legendary Armory

  • DeLys.5380DeLys.5380 Member ✭✭

    @Fire Attunement.9835 said:
    We want to talk a little about our plans for the next update that will affect the suite of templates features, and gather your feedback about what you hope to see from it.

    We’re calling it the Legendary Armory.

    Any updates on when this will occur (if ever)?

  • @DeLys.5380 said:

    @Fire Attunement.9835 said:
    We want to talk a little about our plans for the next update that will affect the suite of templates features, and gather your feedback about what you hope to see from it.

    We’re calling it the Legendary Armory.

    Any updates on when this will occur (if ever)?

    Probably not, ANET tends to keep quiet on these things.

    The biggest struggle I see for them is in their current proposal it would crash a part of the market if any 80 toons can "freely" get leggy armor.

    I think it would be wiser to make it an exchange. I unlock heavy leggy armor, then on another heavy armor I exchange ascended armor piece for piece. That way you still invest in good gear for your alt getting to that top Stat tier, but can then have functionality of a legendary item without having do the leggy item grind twice.

  • Balsa.3951Balsa.3951 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I'm holding on gearing alts up, because I am not sure now if we get this feature or not, Emotionally I am very neutral so don't worry on hurting my feelings. (I'm not entitled to anything)

    I just like to know if it comes or not, if it's still on the table my alts can stay mediocre a while longer if it doesn't come I like very much to help those poor souls.

    Thank u very much u guys are awesome

    Legendary Armory ?

  • Excursion.9752Excursion.9752 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Tired of waiting...

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  • Solanum.6983Solanum.6983 Member ✭✭✭

    Could we please get confirmation on if this is planned to be released with EoD or on It's own?

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Solanum.6983 said:
    Could we please get confirmation on if this is planned to be released with EoD or on It's own?

    Well considering they would talk to us when they are longer in the development process and they have not done that.
    We can with 99% assume that this is on hold, in the same vein as steam launch is frozen.

  • @Linken.6345 said:

    @Solanum.6983 said:
    Could we please get confirmation on if this is planned to be released with EoD or on It's own?

    Well considering they would talk to us when they are longer in the development process and they have not done that.
    We can with 99% assume that this is on hold, in the same vein as steam launch is frozen.

    I would assume at this point they will not divulge any information on this until closer to the expansion, or after. We can speculate all we want at this point. I feel it would be a great release with the final Chapter of Icebrood Saga, making it unlockable similar to how previous Legendary Trinkets are unlockable. This could give great incentive for mastering Icebrood Saga as well as selling it to potential buyers of this LW season. If it doesn’t happen this way, it’ll probably come out after the expansion is released as a, “it’ll release when it’s ready” kind of feature. In the meantime, I’m cramming as much legendaries as I can make.

  • Excursion.9752Excursion.9752 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I fear that they are going to use this as the next big thing for the expansion. HoT got gliders. PoF got mounts. EoD will be legendary Amory. If this is the case I will be upset. Don't get me wrong I want this feature to come out. I just don't want it to be the focal point outside of Cantha.

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  • @Excursion.9752 said:
    I fear that they are going to use this as the next big thing for the expansion. HoT got gliders. PoF got mounts. EoD will be legendary Amory. If this is the case I will be upset. Don't get me wrong I want this feature to come out. I just don't want it to be the focal point outside of Cantha.

    It won’t be the big expansion idea because 1, not everyone makes legendaries so who would buy an expansion just for that, and 2, it’s supposed to be an update to the existing template system. I imagine it will get a release when it’s ready as they always say. I can see this being something unlockable with the end of icebrood saga, or they’ll release it after the expansion once they can dedicate more time to it.

  • Firebeard.1746Firebeard.1746 Member ✭✭✭✭

    A massive change that needs to be made to LA is that the different gear templates you have can be transmogged separately for the same legendary. Many people Identify their gear based on appearance, and currently if you transmute an equipped legendary in one gear template, it appears the same in all others. This will severely limit the usability of the LA for people that specialize many gear templates for 1 character.

  • @Firebeard.1746 said:
    A massive change that needs to be made to LA is that the different gear templates you have can be transmogged separately for the same legendary. Many people Identify their gear based on appearance, and currently if you transmute an equipped legendary in one gear template, it appears the same in all others. This will severely limit the usability of the LA for people that specialize many gear templates for 1 character.

    I do agree that this change to allow transmutation for different templates on legendary gear would be usefull. Currently you can’t do that if you have just legendary gear. I think it would make it more worthwhile if people could do this with legendaries.

  • The question is, will this be as big a meme as WvW Alliances? SOOON tm lol

  • Sarrs.4831Sarrs.4831 Member ✭✭✭

    I'm honestly expecting this to be an expansion feature. I don't mind too much, but I don't think it's coming soon.

  • Firebeard.1746Firebeard.1746 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Sarrs.4831 said:
    I'm honestly expecting this to be an expansion feature. I don't mind too much, but I don't think it's coming soon.

    I'm thinking this as well. If it doesn't come with the expansion, I'm dropping GW2 like a rock. I worked too hard on ascension for them to poop all over me like that. But I think it'd sell well so they'd add it as an expansion feature.