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Here are the worlds for EU:

  • Augury Rock (FR), Arborstone (FR)
  • Baruch Bay (SP)
  • Desolation (EN)
  • Drakkar Lake (DE), Abaddon's Mouth (DE)
  • Dzagonur (DE), Blacktide (EN)
  • Elona Reach (DE), Miller's Sound (DE)
  • Far Shiverpeaks (EN), Kodash (DE)
  • Gandara (EN), Vabbi (EN)
  • Gunnar's Hold (EN), Fissure of Woe (EN)
  • Jade Sea (FR), Fort Ranik (FR)
  • Piken Square (EN)
  • Riverside (DE), Aurora Glade (EN)
  • Seafarer's Rest (EN), Ruins of Surmia (EN)
  • Underworld (EN), Vizunah Square (FR)
  • Whiteside Ridge (EN), Ring of Fire (EN)

Here are the worlds for NA:

  • Anvil Rock, Eredon Terrace
  • Blackgate, Isle of Janthir
  • Borlis Pass, Crystal Desert
  • Dragonbrand, Darkhaven
  • Fort Aspenwood, Ehmry Bay
  • Henge of Denravi, Yak's Bend
  • Jade Quarry, Devona's Rest
  • Maguuma, Kaineng
  • Northern Shiverpeaks, Gate of Madness
  • Sea of Sorrows, Sorrow's Furnace
  • Stormbluff Isle, Ferguson's Crossing
  • Tarnished Coast, Sanctum of Rall

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  • Adzekul.3104Adzekul.3104 Member ✭✭✭
    edited March 27, 2020

    Thumbsdown for some full servers getting links and others not. FeelsAprilFoolsMan

    Has EU really returned to 5 tiers from 4, or is this a mistake?

  • Rumba.3174Rumba.3174 Member ✭✭✭

    Wait t5 back for EU?

    Gunnars Hold [EU]

  • Shifty.4985Shifty.4985 Member ✭✭

    EU WvW guna be dead again with 5 tiers

    Resident sleeper of RoS & Blackgate

  • Melian.5368Melian.5368 Member ✭✭

    Thanks for listening of Deso's calls for solo link! \o/

  • You guys are to early with the april fools...

  • nice .. i can´t raid with my wvw guild for maybe 8 weeks .. thnx

  • why back to 5 tiers? finally every map had content. now this?

  • Astonishing, and disappointing on why tier 5 is back again. No guildies that can come along on Piken. So when can the big stand alone servers go open again? Can we have a answer on the servers status, recently we experience a lot more lagg in WvW and i suspect that it is everywhere

  • So 5 tiers instead of 4 again, this won't fix anything kittens will still lagg badly in prime and in offpeek hours the imbalance will be bigger again and maps deader again.
    If lagg has to be adressed be radical and lower map caps, remove boons from wvwvw like retal, alacrity, might, resistance or things like superspeed and change protection to 20% or something and call it a day, this woulda been a better solution then just changing damage coefficients.

  • Jilora.9524Jilora.9524 Member ✭✭✭

    Why do you decide who stays in t1 by giving them hefty links then banish others to t4

    WvW bandwagoners have small D's and never left their house even before Covid19

  • Jilora.9524Jilora.9524 Member ✭✭✭

    @Lordship.7108 said:
    Astonishing, and disappointing on why tier 5 is back again. No guildies that can come along on Piken. So when can the big stand alone servers go open again? Can we have a answer on the servers status, recently we experience a lot more lagg in WvW and i suspect that it is everywhere

    You weren't full. Same ol piken complaint. Our guildies can't come to link because everytime you get a link you stack Piken and link and play in t1/t2

    WvW bandwagoners have small D's and never left their house even before Covid19

  • len.7809len.7809 Member ✭✭✭

    Nice April Fools.

  • Well, it wouldn’t be ANet, if they wouldn’t take one step forward and then two steps backwards. Now, two months with kitten five tiers in EU again. The last matches didn’t even have queues despite Corona quarantine.

  • Oh boy I can't wait for for half my server to throw all their toys out the pram and go to another because we don't have a link to carry us.

  • Hmm... 41 of the past 57 weeks SoR has been linked with a T4-sometimes-T3 server. Hats off to FA, were it not for them we'd never know what any other tier is like in more than a year.

    Maybe... just maybe... consider shaking things up a little more next time? Especially since TC and SoR were recently linked during the 3-month hiatus during winter holidays.

  • Jilora.9524Jilora.9524 Member ✭✭✭

    @Cael.3960 said:
    Hmm... 41 of the past 57 weeks SoR has been linked with a T4-sometimes-T3 server. Hats off to FA, were it not for them we'd never know what any other tier is like in more than a year.

    Maybe... just maybe... consider shaking things up a little more next time? Especially since TC and SoR were recently linked during the 3-month hiatus during winter holidays.

    It's a major problem. I feel like they chose 3/4 that will be t1/t2 links and 3/4 will be t3/t4 right off the bat. For ex AR is stronger then NSP and ET is stronger then GoM so AR/ET link will be up T1 and T2 area where NSP/Gom will drop to T3/T4. Now all this can be undone with a bandwagon but they should work at make 12 even host/links not hey NSP you hit the lottery last wk with BP now back to the basement with you as I'm sure you notice as you mention SoR circumstances

    WvW bandwagoners have small D's and never left their house even before Covid19

  • Seriously disappointed that AR is linked yet again with ET. Super thicc NA for us again where there's not enough content to go around for everyone.
    Who even makes these links? No one should ever be linked with the same server 2x in a row. Guess I'll cut back on my play time for ANOTHER 2 months.

  • @Jilora.9524 said:

    AR/ET link will be up T1 and T2 area where NSP/Gom will drop to T3/T4..

    Nah, GoM's a strong link, while their fight quality may be worse than AR, NSP/GoM is a T1 combo, AR will probably still be T2/T3 (they're actively avoiding Indo).

  • Cambeleg.7632Cambeleg.7632 Member ✭✭✭

    Arenanet messing again WvW for Europe... looooool

  • Syrus.2174Syrus.2174 Member ✭✭✭
    edited March 27, 2020

    I would guess that EU returning to 5 Tiers again is mainly due to more players playing again with the quarantines all over the place.
    Overall I'd really wish for a monthly relink instead of bi-monthly and a return to 4 Tiers once the player numbers drop again, when the crisis passes and the weather gets better.

  • Cambeleg.7632Cambeleg.7632 Member ✭✭✭

    @Syrus.2174 said:
    I would guess that EU returning to 5 Tiers again is mainly due to more players playing again with the quarantines all over the place.
    Overall I'd really wish for a monthly relink instead of bi-monthly and a return to 4 Tiers once the player numbers drop again, when the crisis passes and the weather gets better.

    What more players? Let be serious... there's no new players! lol

  • shiri.4257shiri.4257 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @BiFiMoN.7582 said:
    nice .. i can´t raid with my wvw guild for maybe 8 weeks .. thnx

    Shouldn't have joined a bandwagon guild. must've been a "Fighhhttt Guildd!!" yahhhh buddyy

    Spectre [VII] - Wood League Champion. Making "fight guilds" stack on higher tiers since 2013.
    Michelin rated WvW guild since 2015. The gold standard. Never transferred, never reformed, adapting and reloading with or without Anet.

  • Jilora.9524Jilora.9524 Member ✭✭✭

    @V Winter.5371 said:

    @Jilora.9524 said:

    AR/ET link will be up T1 and T2 area where NSP/Gom will drop to T3/T4..

    Nah, GoM's a strong link, while their fight quality may be worse than AR, NSP/GoM is a T1 combo, AR will probably still be T2/T3 (they're actively avoiding Indo).

    I mean well see. Yeah AR could tank a bit to stay outta t1 but GoM is all havok guilds who jump solos as far as I remember. NSP got a bump in hours from being in T1 but no way we stay any where near T1 but hey hopefully you are right

    WvW bandwagoners have small D's and never left their house even before Covid19

  • @shiri.4257 said:
    Shouldn't have joined a bandwagon guild. must've been a "Fighhhttt Guildd!!" yahhhh buddyy

    lel bandwagon guild .. are u sure about dis?
    NA guilds still playing condi ball meta?

  • Lhiash.4910Lhiash.4910 Member ✭✭

    Very good move with restoring the 5th tier, it was no fun waiting in queue for 40 minutes to get 15 man guild on one border, then having a dc and be forced to wait again. Finally there will be chances to find a map with no omniblob karma training stuff and looking for "fights".

  • @Jilora.9524 said:

    I mean well see. Yeah AR could tank a bit to stay outta t1 but GoM is all havok guilds who jump solos as far as I remember. NSP got a bump in hours from being in T1 but no way we stay any where near T1 but hey hopefully you are right

    idk, my friends on AR are telling me they don't care what their they're in as long as it's not 1, my only reason for think NSP could still be T1 is b/c they're a strong ppt combo with GoM. But hey, if not then it looks like either BG or SoS will be FA's bag farm for the next two months, cause no one else is looking particularly stronger than before.

  • shiri.4257shiri.4257 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @BiFiMoN.7582 said:

    @shiri.4257 said:
    Shouldn't have joined a bandwagon guild. must've been a "Fighhhttt Guildd!!" yahhhh buddyy

    lel bandwagon guild .. are u sure about dis?
    NA guilds still playing condi ball meta?

    mate, we on that gem card meta since 2015. we called it t1. EU lagging behind still it seems.

    Spectre [VII] - Wood League Champion. Making "fight guilds" stack on higher tiers since 2013.
    Michelin rated WvW guild since 2015. The gold standard. Never transferred, never reformed, adapting and reloading with or without Anet.

  • Blockhead Magee.3092Blockhead Magee.3092 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I'm sure the folks that band wagonned to SBI to bloat FA will band wagon off to do that again. Sorry FC, T4 here we come! I've been a proponent of doing the links more frequently to mitigate this. There are always a handful of servers, usually the ones who go from link to primary (and their link), that get hosed for a few months.

    Even better if alliances can get here and see how much that helps.

  • phreeak.1023phreeak.1023 Member ✭✭
    edited March 27, 2020

    Why back to 5 Tiers? Honestly is Anet trolling us? What a stupid decision... They rly dont care about this game. If decision making is on the same level for the new expansion, it will be an historic failure.

    Had so much fun. Yeh queuea were there but at least there was action. With a bad relink ppl can logoff for the next 2 month.

  • trixantea.1230trixantea.1230 Member ✭✭✭

    No more 1st place pips for Deso. Now it's time for outnumbred pips!

  • TaraAshlynn.9746TaraAshlynn.9746 Member ✭✭
    edited March 27, 2020

    My guess is SBI will be bandwagoned. Indo and Dods are on SBI. They could become the new #1 server if they stay there and people bandwagon it. BG definitely wont be #1 with Ioj, and FA has ebay which has no good kdr or ppt, so they won't be #1 either. The only servers who have true potential (with bandwagon) is SBI, Borlis Pass or NSP. Again, my assumption will be SBI as #1. They carried FA this recent links

    You have to take into consideration who has ppt and has good fighters at the same time. Every single relink people bandwagon and stack servers so the population you see NOW, is going to change. Seeing how Dods did come back, and Indo has been playing more frequently with his guild he made, it just makes total sense for people to go there.

    Just wish the whole Bandwagon thing wasn't a thing, it's just tiring destroying servers by leaving them and then stacking servers just to be #1. Is it really THAT FUN, to be unbeatable because of the fact you stack it?

  • Stormscar.5489Stormscar.5489 Member ✭✭
    edited March 27, 2020

    Going back to 5 tiers is a terrible choice. Maybe Anet saw the queue numbers which increased a bit in some weeks (due to 2 separate events), but since its likely we wont have more events like these in the following months its not a wise move.

  • Can you explain why Desolation loses their link and WSR keep theirs, this is what the current war score is https://prnt.sc/ro24t9 and looks like in most matchups WSR plays, why do they get to have a link when they clearly have the most experienced fighting players. Not only do they have a linked server that people can bandwagon to but their server does not even have full status like desolation does. People are leaving Desolation in droves and because its got full status people can leave but not join.

    Maybe you should care more about balanced matchups rather then artifically push unbalanced matchups to promote bandwagoning so you can make $$$.

  • How is Crystal Desert, are they active people?

  • Virdo.1540Virdo.1540 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Im happy that t5 is back. Keep up the good work!

  • Gryxis.6950Gryxis.6950 Member ✭✭✭
    edited March 27, 2020

    @Fisheye.9147 said:
    Can you explain why Desolation loses their link and WSR keep theirs, this is what the current war score is https://prnt.sc/ro24t9 and looks like in most matchups WSR plays, why do they get to have a link when they clearly have the most experienced fighting players. Not only do they have a linked server that people can bandwagon to but their server does not even have full status like desolation does. People are leaving Desolation in droves and because its got full status people can leave but not join.

    Maybe you should care more about balanced matchups rather then artifically push unbalanced matchups to promote bandwagoning so you can make $$$.

    Desolation has more population than WSR, and it has been stuck t1 for ages, while WSR wasn't. Also deso is a ppt server while WSR has always had huge ratios when it comes to k/d, but its ppt is weak so showing the k/d stat is not really meaningful, it doesn't always win a match up for wsr while the ppt do win the matchup for desolation not most of the time but all of the time

    edit : if your complain is that desolation is going to loose it's first matchup in ages then all i have to say is good job arenanet, unironically

  • MELORD.5013MELORD.5013 Member ✭✭✭

    @Fisheye.9147 said:
    Can you explain why Desolation loses their link and WSR keep theirs, this is what the current war score is https://prnt.sc/ro24t9 and looks like in most matchups WSR plays, why do they get to have a link when they clearly have the most experienced fighting players. Not only do they have a linked server that people can bandwagon to but their server does not even have full status like desolation does. People are leaving Desolation in droves and because its got full status people can leave but not join.

    Maybe you should care more about balanced matchups rather then artifically push unbalanced matchups to promote bandwagoning so you can make $$$.

    most of deso vets don't want a link riba made a forum post about that they were hard stuck t1 they want to be free https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/100328/desolation-no-link-good-desolation-link-bad#latest

    Clouding is More funn than zerging

  • Bish.8627Bish.8627 Member ✭✭✭

    I know they have this magic system they wont tell us about that keeps making WSR mega over pop and Piken dead but listed full, but why don't they just unlink high rank servers and link lower rank and see if stuff evens out?

  • CrimsonNeonite.1048CrimsonNeonite.1048 Member ✭✭✭
    edited March 28, 2020

    @Fisheye.9147 said:
    Can you explain why Desolation loses their link and WSR keep theirs, this is what the current war score is https://prnt.sc/ro24t9 and looks like in most matchups WSR plays, why do they get to have a link when they clearly have the most experienced fighting players. Not only do they have a linked server that people can bandwagon to but their server does not even have full status like desolation does. People are leaving Desolation in droves and because its got full status people can leave but not join.

    Maybe you should care more about balanced matchups rather then artifically push unbalanced matchups to promote bandwagoning so you can make $$$.

    We were in T1 for 5 months and winning the majority of Matchups by 90+ points, besides this past week.
    So we either get a less populated link, which may become a bandwagon or someone else becomes the bandwagon.

    Either way, bringing back another Tier was a bad idea, Tier 4, although SFR and JS were mainly stuck there. I'm sure they had plenty of action, T5 won't be nearly as active. Piken seems to have dropped activity massively already and Gandara are apparently a T4 server too, but Deso is probably not going to have coverage to stay Perma T1 for once.

  • why tf GOM only gets linked to NSP, YB, or DB been like that for years now :anguished:

  • Mil.3562Mil.3562 Member ✭✭✭
    edited March 28, 2020

    @Jilora.9524 said:
    Why do you decide who stays in t1 by giving them hefty links then banish others to t4

    Those who like to stay in T1, ANet expect you to spend some $$ to buy gems and transfer to T1's linked World every two months. That's why. A while back, I used to do that but because this happens too often and with the constant high handed nerfs, I stopped playing.

  • really bad choice to bring back 5 tiers. unnecessary as hell.

    besides, the matching overall is weird af. okay, steal us the link, but why do new combinations not start off in the last tier? Desolation just lost several guilds some weeks ago, the new players now have to play this garbage.

    3 hours fight over garri aren't fun... this horrible balance patch brought the worst meta possible to fight undernumbers

  • A roadmap for WvW is needed. Relink is simply not a solution. We need a solution for the lags. We need healthy communities again (EN - DE - FR - SP). We don't need servers on "Medium Population". We need a refresh of the maps. We need a perspective for 2020 and 2021. Visit the remaining communities in the TS / Discord and let's find a common solution. You're welcome!

  • NaramSin.2693NaramSin.2693 Member ✭✭✭
    edited March 28, 2020

    Thank You ANet for this, I really want to know who's managing WvW.... btw You will see the consequences of this great decision in time, for the moment thanks also for the skill lag and game crash

  • apoko.5246apoko.5246 Member
    edited March 28, 2020

    Why is the reason for not giving Piken a link? do you not like the server in over a year we have had 1 link. we struggle in tier 4/5 until we had a link yes we are a full server but 95% is PVE, our WVW team is minimal at the best of times but you know this. Why do other servers always get a link who have a high population. Give me a valid reason to why we keep not getting a link. Also lots will be leaving over next 8 weeks had enough of this bull-kitten

  • Jilora.9524Jilora.9524 Member ✭✭✭
    edited March 28, 2020

    @apoko.5246 said:
    Why is the reason for not giving Piken a link? do you not like the server in over a year we have had 1 link. we struggle in tier 4/5 until we had a link yes we are a full server but 95% is PVE, our WVW team is minimal at the best of times but you know this. Why do other servers always get a link who have a high population. Give me a valid reason to why we keep not getting a link. Also lots will be leaving over next 8 weeks had enough of this bull-kitten

    Because you stack. You were full no link everyone left. So many left you dropped down to medium. Then you were medium and got a link. What did you do? You all transferred back and loaded up the link to play in T1/T2. You put so many hours in so again you became full and were top 3 in hours so no link. Stop playing innocent. It's just like BG in NA. Any time there is a link added you both get to play in T1/T2 because you constantly abuse the system. So leave just like last time and come back in 7 weeks when you med with a link again

    WvW bandwagoners have small D's and never left their house even before Covid19

  • Threather.9354Threather.9354 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 29, 2020

    @Fisheye.9147 said:
    Can you explain why Desolation loses their link and WSR keep theirs, this is what the current war score is https://prnt.sc/ro24t9 and looks like in most matchups WSR plays, why do they get to have a link when they clearly have the most experienced fighting players. Not only do they have a linked server that people can bandwagon to but their server does not even have full status like desolation does. People are leaving Desolation in droves and because its got full status people can leave but not join.

    Maybe you should care more about balanced matchups rather then artifically push unbalanced matchups to promote bandwagoning so you can make $$$.

    Anet can't do much about WSR until alliances come out. It was originally empty server, bottom of the barrel, which got filled by transfers (WvW veterans) and has very very few people who only play WvW as 2ndary gamemode and even fewer of those who started on WSR. Truthfully Deso has 0.8 KDR against them (80 kills/100 deaths) right now which isn't that bad against a stacked server like theirs.

    Now Desolation has some adaptation to do to get used to not winning every matchup by 100+ points which might take a few weeks to do so, but I am quite sure we will manage it.

    Ri Ba - WvW Commander, scout, innovator
    Social Experiment [sX] leader
    Desolation+Alt
    Diamond Legend

  • Threather.9354Threather.9354 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @MELORD.5013 said:

    @Fisheye.9147 said:
    Can you explain why Desolation loses their link and WSR keep theirs, this is what the current war score is https://prnt.sc/ro24t9 and looks like in most matchups WSR plays, why do they get to have a link when they clearly have the most experienced fighting players. Not only do they have a linked server that people can bandwagon to but their server does not even have full status like desolation does. People are leaving Desolation in droves and because its got full status people can leave but not join.

    Maybe you should care more about balanced matchups rather then artifically push unbalanced matchups to promote bandwagoning so you can make $$$.

    most of deso vets don't want a link riba made a forum post about that they were hard stuck t1 they want to be free

    The thread wasn't about being stuck in rank 1, it was about no effort being required to do so just because sheer amount of players regardless of linking. Even if deso drops tier 2 or 3, it is actually healthier for the gamemode.

    Ri Ba - WvW Commander, scout, innovator
    Social Experiment [sX] leader
    Desolation+Alt
    Diamond Legend

  • I decided to check the wvw matchups for old times sake because I figured what the hey. My beloved AG has been linked up with Riverside.

    Kitten

  • Jilora.9524Jilora.9524 Member ✭✭✭

    Man Sbi is the bandwagon to beat all bandwagons. Like foe rocking 7 catas to take a t0 garry on a ded map and oppa and sin and sea and and and. Like how is that even fun for you. Stacking to that level and going lol I'm so good a wvw. You embarrass the whole mode with your small D's

    WvW bandwagoners have small D's and never left their house even before Covid19