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Elite spec with spear as ground weapon.

Which professions do you think would this fit with?

I think spears have a lot of potential as a ground weapon. Some classes can wield it as a poke-y mid-ranged weapon while others could have it as a sweeping aoe weapon. It can also be used creatively as a thrown weapon either physically or magically.

Personally, I'd like for warriors to gain access to spears as a ground weapon and have them play as archetypal spearmen. Mesmers could also use it as sort of a levitating weapon around them similar to how Xaldin from the Kingdom Hearts Series uses his spears. Would be a much needed power option for mesmers.

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  • Kodama.6453Kodama.6453 Member ✭✭✭

    I doubt that they will make spear available for combat on land.

    There is not enough benefit in making a mechanical change like that. Especially if they could also get the effect by simply giving warriors access to staves through elite spec, then giving them spear combat abilities and releasing new spear skins for staff. We already have staff skins which look like spears, so this wouldn't be something too new.

  • Fueki.4753Fueki.4753 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Warriors using staves is the most likely candidate for a "Spear" wielder.

  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    The answer is warrior, and land spear is not a pie in the sky dream

  • Yasai.3549Yasai.3549 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 29, 2020

    All they have to do is make a melee staff with stabby animations, and we have a spear.
    People are having too much of a hard on over actual spear on land.

    If I play a stupid build, I deserve to die.
    If I beat people on a stupid build, I deserve to get away with it.

  • Draygorn.7012Draygorn.7012 Member ✭✭✭

    Honestly, they should just allow spear and trident skins to be used on staff, and speargun skins on rifle. There would be more incentive to create their respective leggies. And maybe have Gen 2 versions as well.

  • Revolution.5409Revolution.5409 Member ✭✭✭

    In my opinion, Warrior, Guardian and Mesmer.

  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Revolution.5409 said:
    In my opinion, Warrior, Guardian and Mesmer.

    I think Guardian should get Trident as a thrown weapon.

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 29, 2020

    Just seems weird warrior can use all these different weapons but not a spear, who at anet thought hmmm warrior should be able to use more variety of weapons cuz it a warrior then leaves out one of the most common and iconic melee battle weapons. That's like designing ele and making staff or scepter not being unusable on the class. Same for guard class, as soon as staff was considered spear and spear like skills and how fitting it would be for it should been obvious.

  • Revolution.5409Revolution.5409 Member ✭✭✭

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:
    In my opinion, Warrior, Guardian and Mesmer.

    I think Guardian should get Trident as a thrown weapon.

    If I think of a Guardian and a spear, GW's Paragon immediately comes to mind. :)

    I think the trident fits better with Revenant and Elementalist.

  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Revolution.5409 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:
    In my opinion, Warrior, Guardian and Mesmer.

    I think Guardian should get Trident as a thrown weapon.

    If I think of a Guardian and a spear, GW's Paragon immediately comes to mind. :)

    I think the trident fits better with Revenant and Elementalist.

    I don't disagree. I'd rather have spear on Warrior and Warrior be the Paragon though. But realistically they absorbed Monk and Paragon into the Guardian class. Trident strikes me as more of a thrown weapon in this case though.

  • Revolution.5409Revolution.5409 Member ✭✭✭

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:
    In my opinion, Warrior, Guardian and Mesmer.

    I think Guardian should get Trident as a thrown weapon.

    If I think of a Guardian and a spear, GW's Paragon immediately comes to mind. :)

    I think the trident fits better with Revenant and Elementalist.

    I don't disagree. I'd rather have spear on Warrior and Warrior be the Paragon though. But realistically they absorbed Monk and Paragon into the Guardian class. Trident strikes me as more of a thrown weapon in this case though.

    I wouldn't like to see Warrior use battle songs. XD

    I would prefer more a Warrior / Lancer capable of using martial skills, I think it is more suitable for the Warrior theme in gw2

  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Revolution.5409 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:
    In my opinion, Warrior, Guardian and Mesmer.

    I think Guardian should get Trident as a thrown weapon.

    If I think of a Guardian and a spear, GW's Paragon immediately comes to mind. :)

    I think the trident fits better with Revenant and Elementalist.

    I don't disagree. I'd rather have spear on Warrior and Warrior be the Paragon though. But realistically they absorbed Monk and Paragon into the Guardian class. Trident strikes me as more of a thrown weapon in this case though.

    I wouldn't like to see Warrior use battle songs. XD

    I would prefer more a Warrior / Lancer capable of using martial skills, I think it is more suitable for the Warrior theme in gw2

    I posted a possible Warrior e-spec with a spear with that kind of setup. I'd prefer pistol/pistol and support skills/tree because warrior needs a better range game and better support. The e-spec I posted for spear was definitely a lancer with support. It has a 1200 range immob and a 1200 range leap (several leaps actually). If we get another melee weapon it needs to be on par with GS for mobility, and on par with Axe for DPS.

  • Revolution.5409Revolution.5409 Member ✭✭✭

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:
    In my opinion, Warrior, Guardian and Mesmer.

    I think Guardian should get Trident as a thrown weapon.

    If I think of a Guardian and a spear, GW's Paragon immediately comes to mind. :)

    I think the trident fits better with Revenant and Elementalist.

    I don't disagree. I'd rather have spear on Warrior and Warrior be the Paragon though. But realistically they absorbed Monk and Paragon into the Guardian class. Trident strikes me as more of a thrown weapon in this case though.

    I wouldn't like to see Warrior use battle songs. XD

    I would prefer more a Warrior / Lancer capable of using martial skills, I think it is more suitable for the Warrior theme in gw2

    I posted a possible Warrior e-spec with a spear with that kind of setup. I'd prefer pistol/pistol and support skills/tree because warrior needs a better range game and better support. The e-spec I posted for spear was definitely a lancer with support. It has a 1200 range immob and a 1200 range leap (several leaps actually). If we get another melee weapon it needs to be on par with GS for mobility, and on par with Axe for DPS.

    If we get a melee weapon I wish it didn't have GS rooting problems.
    In BDO Online there is a class called Musa, it equips a spear called Crescent Blade, it is oriental in theme and it would adapt very well even with the expansion of Cantha, I would like Warrior to get something thematically similar with good mobility, self buffs and Aoe damage.

  • Fueki.4753Fueki.4753 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Revolution.5409 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:
    In my opinion, Warrior, Guardian and Mesmer.

    I think Guardian should get Trident as a thrown weapon.

    If I think of a Guardian and a spear, GW's Paragon immediately comes to mind. :)

    I think the trident fits better with Revenant and Elementalist.

    I don't disagree. I'd rather have spear on Warrior and Warrior be the Paragon though. But realistically they absorbed Monk and Paragon into the Guardian class. Trident strikes me as more of a thrown weapon in this case though.

    I wouldn't like to see Warrior use battle songs. XD

    I would prefer more a Warrior / Lancer capable of using martial skills, I think it is more suitable for the Warrior theme in gw2

    I posted a possible Warrior e-spec with a spear with that kind of setup. I'd prefer pistol/pistol and support skills/tree because warrior needs a better range game and better support. The e-spec I posted for spear was definitely a lancer with support. It has a 1200 range immob and a 1200 range leap (several leaps actually). If we get another melee weapon it needs to be on par with GS for mobility, and on par with Axe for DPS.

    If we get a melee weapon I wish it didn't have GS rooting problems.
    In BDO Online there is a class called Musa, it equips a spear called Crescent Blade, it is oriental in theme and it would adapt very well even with the expansion of Cantha, I would like Warrior to get something thematically similar with good mobility, self buffs and Aoe damage.

    Musa uses glaives, not spears though.
    Maehwa uses spears.

    I don't want a glaive-wielding Warrior, we already have enough slashing weapons.
    I want a spear-wielder that pokes its way through HP bars.

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 29, 2020

    @Fueki.4753 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:
    In my opinion, Warrior, Guardian and Mesmer.

    I think Guardian should get Trident as a thrown weapon.

    If I think of a Guardian and a spear, GW's Paragon immediately comes to mind. :)

    I think the trident fits better with Revenant and Elementalist.

    I don't disagree. I'd rather have spear on Warrior and Warrior be the Paragon though. But realistically they absorbed Monk and Paragon into the Guardian class. Trident strikes me as more of a thrown weapon in this case though.

    I wouldn't like to see Warrior use battle songs. XD

    I would prefer more a Warrior / Lancer capable of using martial skills, I think it is more suitable for the Warrior theme in gw2

    I posted a possible Warrior e-spec with a spear with that kind of setup. I'd prefer pistol/pistol and support skills/tree because warrior needs a better range game and better support. The e-spec I posted for spear was definitely a lancer with support. It has a 1200 range immob and a 1200 range leap (several leaps actually). If we get another melee weapon it needs to be on par with GS for mobility, and on par with Axe for DPS.

    If we get a melee weapon I wish it didn't have GS rooting problems.
    In BDO Online there is a class called Musa, it equips a spear called Crescent Blade, it is oriental in theme and it would adapt very well even with the expansion of Cantha, I would like Warrior to get something thematically similar with good mobility, self buffs and Aoe damage.

    Musa uses glaives, not spears though.
    Maehwa uses spears.

    I don't want a glaive-wielding Warrior, we already have enough slashing weapons.
    I want a spear-wielder that pokes its way through HP bars.

    Yeah musa uses a crescent blade type pole arm more suited to rev like skills.
    Warrior be more pike type spear with thrust and poke type skills, maybe one throw for kicks lol. If that did happen I'd be awesome if they gave warrior a few stances that change the skills like a high stance, med stance and low stance in basic sense.
    High stance slower high deeps with one hard cc skill
    Medium more defensive with a block and mediocre deeps
    Low stance fast low dps pokes with some soft cc's

  • Revolution.5409Revolution.5409 Member ✭✭✭

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Fueki.4753 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:
    In my opinion, Warrior, Guardian and Mesmer.

    I think Guardian should get Trident as a thrown weapon.

    If I think of a Guardian and a spear, GW's Paragon immediately comes to mind. :)

    I think the trident fits better with Revenant and Elementalist.

    I don't disagree. I'd rather have spear on Warrior and Warrior be the Paragon though. But realistically they absorbed Monk and Paragon into the Guardian class. Trident strikes me as more of a thrown weapon in this case though.

    I wouldn't like to see Warrior use battle songs. XD

    I would prefer more a Warrior / Lancer capable of using martial skills, I think it is more suitable for the Warrior theme in gw2

    I posted a possible Warrior e-spec with a spear with that kind of setup. I'd prefer pistol/pistol and support skills/tree because warrior needs a better range game and better support. The e-spec I posted for spear was definitely a lancer with support. It has a 1200 range immob and a 1200 range leap (several leaps actually). If we get another melee weapon it needs to be on par with GS for mobility, and on par with Axe for DPS.

    If we get a melee weapon I wish it didn't have GS rooting problems.
    In BDO Online there is a class called Musa, it equips a spear called Crescent Blade, it is oriental in theme and it would adapt very well even with the expansion of Cantha, I would like Warrior to get something thematically similar with good mobility, self buffs and Aoe damage.

    Musa uses glaives, not spears though.
    Maehwa uses spears.

    I don't want a glaive-wielding Warrior, we already have enough slashing weapons.
    I want a spear-wielder that pokes its way through HP bars.

    Yeah musa uses a crescent blade type pole arm more suited to rev like skills.
    Warrior be more pike type spear with thrust and poke type skills, maybe one throw for kicks lol. If that did happen I'd be awesome if they gave warrior a few stances that change the skills like a high stance, med stance and low stance in basic sense.

    Thanks for the correction guys I made confusion between the two classes.
    Even Maehwa's style would have been adapted to the Warrior.

  • Fueki.4753Fueki.4753 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 29, 2020

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:
    If that did happen I'd be awesome if they gave warrior a few stances that change the skills like a high stance, med stance and low stance in basic sense.
    High stance slower high deeps with one hard cc skill
    Medium more defensive with a block and mediocre deeps
    Low stance fast low dps pokes with some soft cc's

    Did you happen to play Nioh (2) lately?

    That aside, I can't imagine Arenanet giving us multiple such stances, as they'd have to apply that playstyle (which would most likely replace the Burst skill class mechanic) to all core weapons as well. I don't see Arenanet giving each weapon two skill sets.

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 29, 2020

    @Fueki.4753 said:

    If that did happen I'd be awesome if they gave warrior a few stances that change the skills like a high stance, med stance and low stance in basic sense.

    High stance slower high deeps with one hard cc skill
    Medium more defensive with a block and mediocre deeps
    Low stance fast low dps pokes with some soft cc's

    Did you happen to play Nioh (2) lately?

    Lol nioh are one of the few games I play outside of mmo's along side shadow tactics, last of us and hopefully soon to be lou 2 and ghost of tsushima :)
    Good deduction skills Haha

  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Fueki.4753 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:
    In my opinion, Warrior, Guardian and Mesmer.

    I think Guardian should get Trident as a thrown weapon.

    If I think of a Guardian and a spear, GW's Paragon immediately comes to mind. :)

    I think the trident fits better with Revenant and Elementalist.

    I don't disagree. I'd rather have spear on Warrior and Warrior be the Paragon though. But realistically they absorbed Monk and Paragon into the Guardian class. Trident strikes me as more of a thrown weapon in this case though.

    I wouldn't like to see Warrior use battle songs. XD

    I would prefer more a Warrior / Lancer capable of using martial skills, I think it is more suitable for the Warrior theme in gw2

    I posted a possible Warrior e-spec with a spear with that kind of setup. I'd prefer pistol/pistol and support skills/tree because warrior needs a better range game and better support. The e-spec I posted for spear was definitely a lancer with support. It has a 1200 range immob and a 1200 range leap (several leaps actually). If we get another melee weapon it needs to be on par with GS for mobility, and on par with Axe for DPS.

    If we get a melee weapon I wish it didn't have GS rooting problems.
    In BDO Online there is a class called Musa, it equips a spear called Crescent Blade, it is oriental in theme and it would adapt very well even with the expansion of Cantha, I would like Warrior to get something thematically similar with good mobility, self buffs and Aoe damage.

    Musa uses glaives, not spears though.
    Maehwa uses spears.

    I don't want a glaive-wielding Warrior, we already have enough slashing weapons.
    I want a spear-wielder that pokes its way through HP bars.

    Yeah musa uses a crescent blade type pole arm more suited to rev like skills.
    Warrior be more pike type spear with thrust and poke type skills, maybe one throw for kicks lol. If that did happen I'd be awesome if they gave warrior a few stances that change the skills like a high stance, med stance and low stance in basic sense.
    High stance slower high deeps with one hard cc skill
    Medium more defensive with a block and mediocre deeps
    Low stance fast low dps pokes with some soft cc's

    Hmmm.... F1, F2, F3 skills or a Spear5 that toggles between the stances?

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 29, 2020

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Fueki.4753 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:
    In my opinion, Warrior, Guardian and Mesmer.

    I think Guardian should get Trident as a thrown weapon.

    If I think of a Guardian and a spear, GW's Paragon immediately comes to mind. :)

    I think the trident fits better with Revenant and Elementalist.

    I don't disagree. I'd rather have spear on Warrior and Warrior be the Paragon though. But realistically they absorbed Monk and Paragon into the Guardian class. Trident strikes me as more of a thrown weapon in this case though.

    I wouldn't like to see Warrior use battle songs. XD

    I would prefer more a Warrior / Lancer capable of using martial skills, I think it is more suitable for the Warrior theme in gw2

    I posted a possible Warrior e-spec with a spear with that kind of setup. I'd prefer pistol/pistol and support skills/tree because warrior needs a better range game and better support. The e-spec I posted for spear was definitely a lancer with support. It has a 1200 range immob and a 1200 range leap (several leaps actually). If we get another melee weapon it needs to be on par with GS for mobility, and on par with Axe for DPS.

    If we get a melee weapon I wish it didn't have GS rooting problems.
    In BDO Online there is a class called Musa, it equips a spear called Crescent Blade, it is oriental in theme and it would adapt very well even with the expansion of Cantha, I would like Warrior to get something thematically similar with good mobility, self buffs and Aoe damage.

    Musa uses glaives, not spears though.
    Maehwa uses spears.

    I don't want a glaive-wielding Warrior, we already have enough slashing weapons.
    I want a spear-wielder that pokes its way through HP bars.

    Yeah musa uses a crescent blade type pole arm more suited to rev like skills.
    Warrior be more pike type spear with thrust and poke type skills, maybe one throw for kicks lol. If that did happen I'd be awesome if they gave warrior a few stances that change the skills like a high stance, med stance and low stance in basic sense.
    High stance slower high deeps with one hard cc skill
    Medium more defensive with a block and mediocre deeps
    Low stance fast low dps pokes with some soft cc's

    Hmmm.... F1, F2, F3 skills or a Spear5 that toggles between the stances?

    F1,f2 and f3 would work perfect for such. Combine with some stance supporting elites along with current stances for true stance build lol
    Name foot soldier or somthing.

  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Fueki.4753 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:
    In my opinion, Warrior, Guardian and Mesmer.

    I think Guardian should get Trident as a thrown weapon.

    If I think of a Guardian and a spear, GW's Paragon immediately comes to mind. :)

    I think the trident fits better with Revenant and Elementalist.

    I don't disagree. I'd rather have spear on Warrior and Warrior be the Paragon though. But realistically they absorbed Monk and Paragon into the Guardian class. Trident strikes me as more of a thrown weapon in this case though.

    I wouldn't like to see Warrior use battle songs. XD

    I would prefer more a Warrior / Lancer capable of using martial skills, I think it is more suitable for the Warrior theme in gw2

    I posted a possible Warrior e-spec with a spear with that kind of setup. I'd prefer pistol/pistol and support skills/tree because warrior needs a better range game and better support. The e-spec I posted for spear was definitely a lancer with support. It has a 1200 range immob and a 1200 range leap (several leaps actually). If we get another melee weapon it needs to be on par with GS for mobility, and on par with Axe for DPS.

    If we get a melee weapon I wish it didn't have GS rooting problems.
    In BDO Online there is a class called Musa, it equips a spear called Crescent Blade, it is oriental in theme and it would adapt very well even with the expansion of Cantha, I would like Warrior to get something thematically similar with good mobility, self buffs and Aoe damage.

    Musa uses glaives, not spears though.
    Maehwa uses spears.

    I don't want a glaive-wielding Warrior, we already have enough slashing weapons.
    I want a spear-wielder that pokes its way through HP bars.

    Yeah musa uses a crescent blade type pole arm more suited to rev like skills.
    Warrior be more pike type spear with thrust and poke type skills, maybe one throw for kicks lol. If that did happen I'd be awesome if they gave warrior a few stances that change the skills like a high stance, med stance and low stance in basic sense.
    High stance slower high deeps with one hard cc skill
    Medium more defensive with a block and mediocre deeps
    Low stance fast low dps pokes with some soft cc's

    Hmmm.... F1, F2, F3 skills or a Spear5 that toggles between the stances?

    F1,f2 and f3 would work perfect for such. Combine with some stance supporting elites along with current stances for true stance build lol
    Name foot soldier or somthing.

    What about the other weapons? Are you proposing 2 new weapon bars for each warrior weapon? Also I'm 100000% for that if that is the case. Opportunity to change some stale weapons. Make a pure power stance for sword and a pure condi stance for it as well, a less mobile but higher DPS GS stance, and a more mobile and evasive one. The CDs on the stances would have to be longish though, like 15s. Not sure if they'd have to require adrenaline though or how they would work with adrenaline unless these ere F2-F4 and F1 was a T1 burst like Spellbreaker.

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Fueki.4753 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Revolution.5409 said:
    In my opinion, Warrior, Guardian and Mesmer.

    I think Guardian should get Trident as a thrown weapon.

    If I think of a Guardian and a spear, GW's Paragon immediately comes to mind. :)

    I think the trident fits better with Revenant and Elementalist.

    I don't disagree. I'd rather have spear on Warrior and Warrior be the Paragon though. But realistically they absorbed Monk and Paragon into the Guardian class. Trident strikes me as more of a thrown weapon in this case though.

    I wouldn't like to see Warrior use battle songs. XD

    I would prefer more a Warrior / Lancer capable of using martial skills, I think it is more suitable for the Warrior theme in gw2

    I posted a possible Warrior e-spec with a spear with that kind of setup. I'd prefer pistol/pistol and support skills/tree because warrior needs a better range game and better support. The e-spec I posted for spear was definitely a lancer with support. It has a 1200 range immob and a 1200 range leap (several leaps actually). If we get another melee weapon it needs to be on par with GS for mobility, and on par with Axe for DPS.

    If we get a melee weapon I wish it didn't have GS rooting problems.
    In BDO Online there is a class called Musa, it equips a spear called Crescent Blade, it is oriental in theme and it would adapt very well even with the expansion of Cantha, I would like Warrior to get something thematically similar with good mobility, self buffs and Aoe damage.

    Musa uses glaives, not spears though.
    Maehwa uses spears.

    I don't want a glaive-wielding Warrior, we already have enough slashing weapons.
    I want a spear-wielder that pokes its way through HP bars.

    Yeah musa uses a crescent blade type pole arm more suited to rev like skills.
    Warrior be more pike type spear with thrust and poke type skills, maybe one throw for kicks lol. If that did happen I'd be awesome if they gave warrior a few stances that change the skills like a high stance, med stance and low stance in basic sense.
    High stance slower high deeps with one hard cc skill
    Medium more defensive with a block and mediocre deeps
    Low stance fast low dps pokes with some soft cc's

    Hmmm.... F1, F2, F3 skills or a Spear5 that toggles between the stances?

    F1,f2 and f3 would work perfect for such. Combine with some stance supporting elites along with current stances for true stance build lol
    Name foot soldier or somthing.

    What about the other weapons? Are you proposing 2 new weapon bars for each warrior weapon? Also I'm 100000% for that if that is the case. Opportunity to change some stale weapons. Make a pure power stance for sword and a pure condi stance for it as well, a less mobile but higher DPS GS stance, and a more mobile and evasive one. The CDs on the stances would have to be longish though, like 15s. Not sure if they'd have to require adrenaline though or how they would work with adrenaline unless these ere F2-F4 and F1 was a T1 burst like Spellbreaker.

    Yeah that was the idea as the f1,f2,f3 stance/weapon skill change would be its whole mechanic to set it apart from the game,also would be a great progression for the class and game if they followed with other unique ideas for other classes.
    My only concern is the design team might not be up to the task of designing that many new weapon skills as realistically and unfortunately they'll most likely chose the fastest and easiest(lazy) approach to the new elite mechanic design's.

  • Smoosh.2718Smoosh.2718 Member ✭✭✭

    I really hope none, as I do not find spears fun in any game. I'ts just a poor mans poke stick.
    If anything the spear would have fit the guardian the most with Dragon Hunter, however that boat was missed. The other is Ranger as it is a 'hunters' weapon.

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 29, 2020

    @Smoosh.2718 said:
    I really hope none, as I do not find spears fun in any game. I'ts just a poor mans poke stick.
    If anything the spear would have fit the guardian the most with Dragon Hunter, however that boat was missed. The other is Ranger as it is a 'hunters' weapon.

    Spear is hunters weapon? Sure but it's also thee most or one of thee most used weapon in irl combat thru history, sry u dont find the idea of the weapon fun tho.

  • Revolution.5409Revolution.5409 Member ✭✭✭

    @Psycoprophet.8107 seems a mechanic too complex to see it implemented in Gw2. xD

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 29, 2020

    @Revolution.5409 said:
    @Psycoprophet.8107 seems a mechanic too complex to see it implemented in Gw2. xD

    Ur not wrong but guy can dream.

  • Smoosh.2718Smoosh.2718 Member ✭✭✭

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Smoosh.2718 said:
    I really hope none, as I do not find spears fun in any game. I'ts just a poor mans poke stick.
    If anything the spear would have fit the guardian the most with Dragon Hunter, however that boat was missed. The other is Ranger as it is a 'hunters' weapon.

    Spear is hunters weapon? Sure but it's also thee most or one of thee most used weapon in irl combat thru history, sry u dont find the idea of the weapon fun tho.

    It was one of the most used weapons in armies because it was cheap.
    Every game I have played with a spear in it, it has just not been fun, there is something about it that looks jarring and just does not look interesting to watch. Unless Anet can do something really innative with the spear and really change the dynamics of the weapon (which i doubt sadly) It's not a weapon I'd want to see.

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Smoosh.2718 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Smoosh.2718 said:
    I really hope none, as I do not find spears fun in any game. I'ts just a poor mans poke stick.
    If anything the spear would have fit the guardian the most with Dragon Hunter, however that boat was missed. The other is Ranger as it is a 'hunters' weapon.

    Spear is hunters weapon? Sure but it's also thee most or one of thee most used weapon in irl combat thru history, sry u dont find the idea of the weapon fun tho.

    It was one of the most used weapons in armies because it was cheap.
    Every game I have played with a spear in it, it has just not been fun, there is something about it that looks jarring and just does not look interesting to watch. Unless Anet can do something really innative with the spear and really change the dynamics of the weapon (which i doubt sadly) It's not a weapon I'd want to see.

    I love spears in ff14, dragoons skills are amazing, nioh spear also a
    awesome and fun weapon to use, also very effective. All personal opinion tho.

  • Smoosh.2718Smoosh.2718 Member ✭✭✭

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Smoosh.2718 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Smoosh.2718 said:
    I really hope none, as I do not find spears fun in any game. I'ts just a poor mans poke stick.
    If anything the spear would have fit the guardian the most with Dragon Hunter, however that boat was missed. The other is Ranger as it is a 'hunters' weapon.

    Spear is hunters weapon? Sure but it's also thee most or one of thee most used weapon in irl combat thru history, sry u dont find the idea of the weapon fun tho.

    It was one of the most used weapons in armies because it was cheap.
    Every game I have played with a spear in it, it has just not been fun, there is something about it that looks jarring and just does not look interesting to watch. Unless Anet can do something really innative with the spear and really change the dynamics of the weapon (which i doubt sadly) It's not a weapon I'd want to see.

    I love spears in ff14, dragoons skills are amazing, nioh spear also a
    awesome and fun weapon to use, also very effective. All personal opinion tho.

    The only cool thing about the Dragoon is the leaps, but i can not stand the stabby poke it does. D:

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 29, 2020

    @Smoosh.2718 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Smoosh.2718 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Smoosh.2718 said:
    I really hope none, as I do not find spears fun in any game. I'ts just a poor mans poke stick.
    If anything the spear would have fit the guardian the most with Dragon Hunter, however that boat was missed. The other is Ranger as it is a 'hunters' weapon.

    Spear is hunters weapon? Sure but it's also thee most or one of thee most used weapon in irl combat thru history, sry u dont find the idea of the weapon fun tho.

    It was one of the most used weapons in armies because it was cheap.
    Every game I have played with a spear in it, it has just not been fun, there is something about it that looks jarring and just does not look interesting to watch. Unless Anet can do something really innative with the spear and really change the dynamics of the weapon (which i doubt sadly) It's not a weapon I'd want to see.

    I love spears in ff14, dragoons skills are amazing, nioh spear also a
    awesome and fun weapon to use, also very effective. All personal opinion tho.

    The only cool thing about the Dragoon is the leaps, but i can not stand the stabby poke it does. D:

    Lol that's completely fair for sure but I and a lot of others so like the thrusts especially when tied to different animations leading up to thrust, I agree if it was just a weapon full of strait up pokes I'd be boring but hopefully anet would be more creative than that but then again... lol

  • mikdepadua.8376mikdepadua.8376 Member ✭✭✭

    https://pa1.narvii.com/5759/0e7de8ab07160c079ef0038195735335afa407f2_hq.gif

    Lancer’s Gae Bolg should be in this game if spears are given to warriors!

  • Fueki.4753Fueki.4753 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Smoosh.2718 said:
    there is something about it that looks jarring and just does not look interesting to watch.

    And I think it's boring how swords are constantly featured as the greatest weapons in media, when they never were all that great in reality.
    Everyone has their own cup of tea.

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited May 29, 2020

    @Fueki.4753 said:

    @Smoosh.2718 said:
    there is something about it that looks jarring and just does not look interesting to watch.

    And I think it's boring how swords are constantly featured as the greatest weapons in media, when they never were all that great in reality.
    Everyone has their own cup of tea.

    This^ I never understood where that came from. I get the Japanese, chinese and somewhat mongol sword fighting styles being sensationalized by the masses due to their stylistic movements but other than those Pole arms, axes and bows etc in my eyes are far more interesting styles of combat but again all subjective.

  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @mikdepadua.8376 said:
    https://pa1.narvii.com/5759/0e7de8ab07160c079ef0038195735335afa407f2_hq.gif

    Lancer’s Gae Bolg should be in this game if spears are given to warriors!

    I support this action.

  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Fueki.4753 said:

    @Smoosh.2718 said:
    there is something about it that looks jarring and just does not look interesting to watch.

    And I think it's boring how swords are constantly featured as the greatest weapons in media, when they never were all that great in reality.
    Everyone has their own cup of tea.

    This^ I never understood where that came from. I get the Japanese, chinese and somewhat mongol sword fighting styles being sensationalized by the masses due to their stylistic movements but other than those Pole arms, axes and bows etc in my eyes are far more interesting styles of combat but again all subjective.

    I would love a freaking Lucerne Hammer in this game that functioned as a pole arm and not a 'staff' or 'hammer'

  • Kodama.6453Kodama.6453 Member ✭✭✭

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Fueki.4753 said:

    @Smoosh.2718 said:
    there is something about it that looks jarring and just does not look interesting to watch.

    And I think it's boring how swords are constantly featured as the greatest weapons in media, when they never were all that great in reality.
    Everyone has their own cup of tea.

    This^ I never understood where that came from. I get the Japanese, chinese and somewhat mongol sword fighting styles being sensationalized by the masses due to their stylistic movements but other than those Pole arms, axes and bows etc in my eyes are far more interesting styles of combat but again all subjective.

    I would love a freaking Lucerne Hammer in this game that functioned as a pole arm and not a 'staff' or 'hammer'

    Wait, I am confused.
    Isn't a Lucerne Hammer technically a warhammer, as the name suggests?

  • Fueki.4753Fueki.4753 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 1, 2020

    @Kodama.6453 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Fueki.4753 said:

    @Smoosh.2718 said:
    there is something about it that looks jarring and just does not look interesting to watch.

    And I think it's boring how swords are constantly featured as the greatest weapons in media, when they never were all that great in reality.
    Everyone has their own cup of tea.

    This^ I never understood where that came from. I get the Japanese, chinese and somewhat mongol sword fighting styles being sensationalized by the masses due to their stylistic movements but other than those Pole arms, axes and bows etc in my eyes are far more interesting styles of combat but again all subjective.

    I would love a freaking Lucerne Hammer in this game that functioned as a pole arm and not a 'staff' or 'hammer'

    Wait, I am confused.
    Isn't a Lucerne Hammer technically a warhammer, as the name suggests?

    Despite it's English name and how one of it's three (or two, depending on the model) head parts is used, it's classified as a polearm.
    That just like halberds are classified as polearms instead being classified as axes, despite the word originating from the word Halmbarte, which literally means stick axe or axe on a stick.

  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Kodama.6453 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Fueki.4753 said:

    @Smoosh.2718 said:
    there is something about it that looks jarring and just does not look interesting to watch.

    And I think it's boring how swords are constantly featured as the greatest weapons in media, when they never were all that great in reality.
    Everyone has their own cup of tea.

    This^ I never understood where that came from. I get the Japanese, chinese and somewhat mongol sword fighting styles being sensationalized by the masses due to their stylistic movements but other than those Pole arms, axes and bows etc in my eyes are far more interesting styles of combat but again all subjective.

    I would love a freaking Lucerne Hammer in this game that functioned as a pole arm and not a 'staff' or 'hammer'

    Wait, I am confused.
    Isn't a Lucerne Hammer technically a warhammer, as the name suggests?

    It is actually a combination of a Bec de Corbin with a Warhammer attached to a 7ft pole. It is a pole arm with a either a flat or pronged hammer head with a pick on the opposite side, and typically also features a bladed tip for stabbing and slashing. It is a very versatile weapon that can be used for tripping, disarming, repositioning a foe, can bludgeon, can pierce, and stab. It really is a swiss army knife on a long stick.

    Demon's Souls featured it as a weapon, and is a fairly decent representation of the weapon.

  • Fueki.4753Fueki.4753 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 1, 2020

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:
    It really is a swiss army knife on a long stick.

    Don't forget it, in English it's named after the Swiss town it has been invented in.
    Or at least it's theorized to have been invented there, due to many of them having been discovered there.
    So it practically was the original "Swiss Army Knife".

    Demon's Souls featured it as a weapon, and is a fairly decent representation of the weapon.

    It's also in Dark Souls 1, 2 and 3.
    I was surprised that Bloodborne didn't have a similar weapon (unless you count the Church Pick as similar).

  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Fueki.4753 said:

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:
    It really is a swiss army knife on a long stick.

    Don't forget it, in English it's named after the Swiss town it has been invented in.
    Or at least it's theorized to have been invented there, due to many of them having been discovered there.
    So it practically was the original "Swiss Army Knife".

    I am aware that it is a Swiss weapon and my statement was alluding to it.

    Demon's Souls featured it as a weapon, and is a fairly decent representation of the weapon.

    It's also in Dark Souls 1, 2 and 3.
    I was surprised that Bloodborne didn't have a similar weapon (unless you count the Church Pick as similar).

    I know, but the version in Demon's Souls is vastly better. Dark Souls' take on polearms became slow AF weapons that do not do them justice in reality. Even the HAlberd Staggered you on a whiffed poke which made no sense.

  • Ryou.2398Ryou.2398 Member ✭✭✭

    @mikdepadua.8376 said:
    Which professions do you think would this fit with?

    I think spears have a lot of potential as a ground weapon. Some classes can wield it as a poke-y mid-ranged weapon while others could have it as a sweeping aoe weapon. It can also be used creatively as a thrown weapon either physically or magically.

    Personally, I'd like for warriors to gain access to spears as a ground weapon and have them play as archetypal spearmen. Mesmers could also use it as sort of a levitating weapon around them similar to how Xaldin from the Kingdom Hearts Series uses his spears. Would be a much needed power option for mesmers.

    I personally thought this is what dragon hunter should have got instead of the bow, it just makes more sense.

    If you want to find the secrets of the universe think in terms of energy frequency and vibration Nikola Tesla.

  • mikdepadua.8376mikdepadua.8376 Member ✭✭✭

    @Ryou.2398 said:

    @mikdepadua.8376 said:
    Which professions do you think would this fit with?

    I think spears have a lot of potential as a ground weapon. Some classes can wield it as a poke-y mid-ranged weapon while others could have it as a sweeping aoe weapon. It can also be used creatively as a thrown weapon either physically or magically.

    Personally, I'd like for warriors to gain access to spears as a ground weapon and have them play as archetypal spearmen. Mesmers could also use it as sort of a levitating weapon around them similar to how Xaldin from the Kingdom Hearts Series uses his spears. Would be a much needed power option for mesmers.

    I personally thought this is what dragon hunter should have got instead of the bow, it just makes more sense.

    Lore-wise Braham took up his mother's bow becoming the first DH so I think it makes sense.

  • Kodama.6453Kodama.6453 Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 11, 2020

    @mikdepadua.8376 said:

    @Ryou.2398 said:

    @mikdepadua.8376 said:
    Which professions do you think would this fit with?

    I think spears have a lot of potential as a ground weapon. Some classes can wield it as a poke-y mid-ranged weapon while others could have it as a sweeping aoe weapon. It can also be used creatively as a thrown weapon either physically or magically.

    Personally, I'd like for warriors to gain access to spears as a ground weapon and have them play as archetypal spearmen. Mesmers could also use it as sort of a levitating weapon around them similar to how Xaldin from the Kingdom Hearts Series uses his spears. Would be a much needed power option for mesmers.

    I personally thought this is what dragon hunter should have got instead of the bow, it just makes more sense.

    Lore-wise Braham took up his mother's bow becoming the first DH so I think it makes sense.

    Which is something I really liked flavourwise. They did it for some, like Braham as the first dragon hunter and Marjory as a reaper. But I think we can expand on that.

    • Rox could become a druid by learning the lessons of the Olmakhan, which have quite some druids in their own rows and generally feel way more "in touch with nature" than the other charr
    • I personally would enjoy to see a chemical focused elite spec for engineers in the next expansion, which would fit perfectly for Canach. Could definitely see him working with acids, poison gases, and so on. He already used poison bombs in the past
    • Taimi could have become a holosmith, creating stuff with hard light could be pretty handy for her, especially with her current health problems
    • Kasmeer maybe could also adapt to a new elite spec with the next expansion, personally I want something that is focused on music and dancing, which I think could fit her character pretty well
  • Ryou.2398Ryou.2398 Member ✭✭✭

    @mikdepadua.8376 said:

    @Ryou.2398 said:

    @mikdepadua.8376 said:
    Which professions do you think would this fit with?

    I think spears have a lot of potential as a ground weapon. Some classes can wield it as a poke-y mid-ranged weapon while others could have it as a sweeping aoe weapon. It can also be used creatively as a thrown weapon either physically or magically.

    Personally, I'd like for warriors to gain access to spears as a ground weapon and have them play as archetypal spearmen. Mesmers could also use it as sort of a levitating weapon around them similar to how Xaldin from the Kingdom Hearts Series uses his spears. Would be a much needed power option for mesmers.

    I personally thought this is what dragon hunter should have got instead of the bow, it just makes more sense.

    Lore-wise Braham took up his mother's bow becoming the first DH so I think it makes sense.

    Well last I checked this is an mmorpg, regardless of lore in fantasy a dragon hunter type of character with heavy armor should use a spear. We are not arguing lore anyways, if the bow is to clunky on the character to be fun then a spear would make more sense.

    If you want to find the secrets of the universe think in terms of energy frequency and vibration Nikola Tesla.

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ryou.2398 said:

    @mikdepadua.8376 said:
    Which professions do you think would this fit with?

    I think spears have a lot of potential as a ground weapon. Some classes can wield it as a poke-y mid-ranged weapon while others could have it as a sweeping aoe weapon. It can also be used creatively as a thrown weapon either physically or magically.

    Personally, I'd like for warriors to gain access to spears as a ground weapon and have them play as archetypal spearmen. Mesmers could also use it as sort of a levitating weapon around them similar to how Xaldin from the Kingdom Hearts Series uses his spears. Would be a much needed power option for mesmers.

    I personally thought this is what dragon hunter should have got instead of the bow, it just makes more sense.

    Someone like the awesomeness that is known as the dragoon.

  • Ryou.2398Ryou.2398 Member ✭✭✭

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Ryou.2398 said:

    @mikdepadua.8376 said:
    Which professions do you think would this fit with?

    I think spears have a lot of potential as a ground weapon. Some classes can wield it as a poke-y mid-ranged weapon while others could have it as a sweeping aoe weapon. It can also be used creatively as a thrown weapon either physically or magically.

    Personally, I'd like for warriors to gain access to spears as a ground weapon and have them play as archetypal spearmen. Mesmers could also use it as sort of a levitating weapon around them similar to how Xaldin from the Kingdom Hearts Series uses his spears. Would be a much needed power option for mesmers.

    I personally thought this is what dragon hunter should have got instead of the bow, it just makes more sense.

    Someone like the awesomeness that is known as the dragoon.

    Yes I will admin that is where some of the concept comes from lol.

    If you want to find the secrets of the universe think in terms of energy frequency and vibration Nikola Tesla.

  • FrostSpectre.4198FrostSpectre.4198 Member ✭✭
    edited June 11, 2020

    Check out Lake Doric, they did give the Seraph NPCs their own spear skills on land.

    Warrior would be like a Sentry or Sentinel with a polearm (some of the spear skins are pretty much polearms)
    Guardian, Defender? Lance? I dunno what it would be.

    @Kodama.6453 said:

    • Kasmeer maybe could also adapt to a new elite spec with the next expansion, personally I want something that is focused on music and dancing, which I think could fit her character pretty well

    Pole dancer? Sorry had to say that!
    Seriously, sounds like Warhorn theme, and likely called "Siren".

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ryou.2398 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Ryou.2398 said:

    @mikdepadua.8376 said:
    Which professions do you think would this fit with?

    I think spears have a lot of potential as a ground weapon. Some classes can wield it as a poke-y mid-ranged weapon while others could have it as a sweeping aoe weapon. It can also be used creatively as a thrown weapon either physically or magically.

    Personally, I'd like for warriors to gain access to spears as a ground weapon and have them play as archetypal spearmen. Mesmers could also use it as sort of a levitating weapon around them similar to how Xaldin from the Kingdom Hearts Series uses his spears. Would be a much needed power option for mesmers.

    I personally thought this is what dragon hunter should have got instead of the bow, it just makes more sense.

    Someone like the awesomeness that is known as the dragoon.

    Yes I will admin that is where some of the concept comes from lol.

    Lol nice!

  • Ryou.2398Ryou.2398 Member ✭✭✭

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Ryou.2398 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Ryou.2398 said:

    @mikdepadua.8376 said:
    Which professions do you think would this fit with?

    I think spears have a lot of potential as a ground weapon. Some classes can wield it as a poke-y mid-ranged weapon while others could have it as a sweeping aoe weapon. It can also be used creatively as a thrown weapon either physically or magically.

    Personally, I'd like for warriors to gain access to spears as a ground weapon and have them play as archetypal spearmen. Mesmers could also use it as sort of a levitating weapon around them similar to how Xaldin from the Kingdom Hearts Series uses his spears. Would be a much needed power option for mesmers.

    I personally thought this is what dragon hunter should have got instead of the bow, it just makes more sense.

    Someone like the awesomeness that is known as the dragoon.

    Yes I will admin that is where some of the concept comes from lol.

    Lol nice!

    Admit haha!

    If you want to find the secrets of the universe think in terms of energy frequency and vibration Nikola Tesla.

  • Psycoprophet.8107Psycoprophet.8107 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ryou.2398 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Ryou.2398 said:

    @Psycoprophet.8107 said:

    @Ryou.2398 said:

    @mikdepadua.8376 said:
    Which professions do you think would this fit with?

    I think spears have a lot of potential as a ground weapon. Some classes can wield it as a poke-y mid-ranged weapon while others could have it as a sweeping aoe weapon. It can also be used creatively as a thrown weapon either physically or magically.

    Personally, I'd like for warriors to gain access to spears as a ground weapon and have them play as archetypal spearmen. Mesmers could also use it as sort of a levitating weapon around them similar to how Xaldin from the Kingdom Hearts Series uses his spears. Would be a much needed power option for mesmers.

    I personally thought this is what dragon hunter should have got instead of the bow, it just makes more sense.

    Someone like the awesomeness that is known as the dragoon.

    Yes I will admin that is where some of the concept comes from lol.

    Lol nice!

    Admit haha!

    Somtimes when something such as that of which is known as a dragoon exudes such awesomeness it can not be contained and will shine through no matter what game is in question. Lol