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  • PseudoNewb.5468PseudoNewb.5468 Member ✭✭✭
    edited May 28, 2020

    You are NOT a commander of the fighting force that is why you are not in control. This episode makes that explicit. You are respected, but you are not in charge. And this episode is exactly set up in that manner. They are not your fighting force. You are there at the will of the imperators, and they are using you like a tool. But you take that, because you need to be as close to Jormag as possible, and you need to make sure Jormag doesn't succeed. Your cabin will be flattened by an iceberg, so now you have no choice but to follow fights with Jormag. Bangar probably wants to flatten your cute asura's grave too (along with the rest of Maguuma), so that certainly isn't where you are going is it?

    Perhaps it is time to level with Logan, and tell him, that the charr mess is not your cup of tea, and the Pact should prepare for a real assault on the dragon.

  • battledrone.8315battledrone.8315 Member ✭✭✭

    @TPMN.1483 said:
    This is how it used to happen - deserters would be shot or worse. Seems fine imo.

    that was in the last century. now they only shoot civilians. a modern deserter goes to another country and writes books about it

  • battledrone.8315battledrone.8315 Member ✭✭✭

    @PseudoNewb.5468 said:
    You are NOT a commander of the fighting force that is why you are not in control. This episode makes that explicit. You are respected, but you are not in charge. And this episode is exactly set up in that manner. They are not your fighting force. You are there at the will of the imperators, and they are using you like a tool. But you take that, because you need to be as close to Jormag as possible, and you need to make sure Jormag doesn't succeed. Your cabin will be flattened by an iceberg, so now you have no choice but to follow fights with Jormag. Bangar probably wants to flatten your cute asura's grave too (along with the rest of Maguuma), so that certainly isn't where you are going is it?

    Perhaps it is time to level with Logan, and tell him, that the charr mess is not your cup of tea, and the Pact should prepare for a real assault on the dragon.

    but i still control my wallet. and this kitten is locking it tight. very few people want to pay for a bad experience.
    and if you want some kind of morale gauge, the game would need some systems to back it up a la swtor
    this is only a scene they put in to make us feel bad. let that sink in....

  • avey.4201avey.4201 Member ✭✭✭
    edited May 28, 2020

    Small ears? That's too sad, he can has my leafs.
    Also I use teleport to friend, animated soap opera is bad mkay, Prophecies had the good story.

  • Zaidya.6138Zaidya.6138 Member ✭✭

    not reading all comments

    As I discussed with a friend a few days ago, it is really sad, that all the choices you have in the game, none of it affects the story.
    I really like the story of GW2, but they really should turn into another direction soon. The Commander thing is done, it was nice and now it gets old. And like you, not everyone likes to be a commander in war affairs! Especially if a fantasy mmorpg starts looking like a strategy game with tanks and guns and gatlings.... nope.

  • Ashantara.8731Ashantara.8731 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Zaidya.6138 said:
    As I discussed with a friend a few days ago, it is really sad, that all the choices you have in the game, none of it affects the story.

    Agreed. I've been pleading for dialogue options that lead to the story branching, like in the personal story at the beginning of the game, for years. But apparently it's not worth the effort or resources, according to ANet.

  • Traveller.7496Traveller.7496 Member ✭✭✭

    The commander shtick is getting very old by now. I hope that once they finish this storyline they forget about the "Commander" and just let us make a fresh start adventuring somewhere (Cantha).

  • Poormany.4507Poormany.4507 Member ✭✭✭

    @Traveller.7496 said:
    The commander shtick is getting very old by now. I hope that once they finish this storyline they forget about the "Commander" and just let us make a fresh start adventuring somewhere (Cantha).

    I'm guessing the PC is going to get a derogatory title in Cantha, which most likely views them as a major threat and a traitor for helping/associating with non-human races and/or being nonhuman. Similar to how Braham is known as "Vowbreaker" among many of the Norn.

  • Eloc Freidon.5692Eloc Freidon.5692 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Kurrilino.2706 said:
    Dear A-Net.

    I demand to be released as Comander of this or any fighting force.
    When i bought the game i intended to be an adventurer hunting treasures and exploring dark forests and magical places.
    I didn't ask or would ever accept to be a leader of an army of any kind.

    Especially when i have no deciding power at all. Today i had to witness members of my fighting force executing people openly.
    My character was not able to voice my opinion or order it to stop. This is a game has a teen rating for kitten sakes.

    Logan came by and i think he would be the perfect person for this kind of atrocities.

    I wish this guild i never wanted to be in and the army i don't like best of luck and will be on my way into the next magical forest
    to do what i really want to do. Maybe i will build a little cabin right at a lake or a creek.
    But i will always look out for a damsel in distress like the little cute Asura in GW1 who was sad that his ears where to short to find a mate,
    going to find some special leafs as prosthetics.

    THIS is what i signed for.

    Sincerely,
    a defector (people who played the new map will understand)

    You aren't in charge of any of this or any army anymore. Especially the charr. Your group is just caught up in this mess doing the best you can. At least the charr haven't eviscerated you yet for your disagreement in their ways. They respect you enough to hear you out and end it at that.

    At the point of charr executing betrayers, leagues of charr before them did successfully side with the enemy and are almost completely annihilating the legions. Anyone deciding to betray after that should expect what is to happen to them in war.

  • battledrone.8315battledrone.8315 Member ✭✭✭

    @Eloc Freidon.5692 said:

    @Kurrilino.2706 said:
    Dear A-Net.

    I demand to be released as Comander of this or any fighting force.
    When i bought the game i intended to be an adventurer hunting treasures and exploring dark forests and magical places.
    I didn't ask or would ever accept to be a leader of an army of any kind.

    Especially when i have no deciding power at all. Today i had to witness members of my fighting force executing people openly.
    My character was not able to voice my opinion or order it to stop. This is a game has a teen rating for kitten sakes.

    Logan came by and i think he would be the perfect person for this kind of atrocities.

    I wish this guild i never wanted to be in and the army i don't like best of luck and will be on my way into the next magical forest
    to do what i really want to do. Maybe i will build a little cabin right at a lake or a creek.
    But i will always look out for a damsel in distress like the little cute Asura in GW1 who was sad that his ears where to short to find a mate,
    going to find some special leafs as prosthetics.

    THIS is what i signed for.

    Sincerely,
    a defector (people who played the new map will understand)

    You aren't in charge of any of this or any army anymore. Especially the charr. Your group is just caught up in this mess doing the best you can. At least the charr haven't eviscerated you yet for your disagreement in their ways. They respect you enough to hear you out and end it at that.

    At the point of charr executing betrayers, leagues of charr before them did successfully side with the enemy and are almost completely annihilating the legions. Anyone deciding to betray after that should expect what is to happen to them in war.

    think about it: what is the purpose of the execution scene. gameplay? . cashshop?
    furthermore, i doubt many people log into a fantasy mmo to replay the daily news

  • Zaklex.6308Zaklex.6308 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @battledrone.8315 said:

    @Eloc Freidon.5692 said:

    @Kurrilino.2706 said:
    Dear A-Net.

    I demand to be released as Comander of this or any fighting force.
    When i bought the game i intended to be an adventurer hunting treasures and exploring dark forests and magical places.
    I didn't ask or would ever accept to be a leader of an army of any kind.

    Especially when i have no deciding power at all. Today i had to witness members of my fighting force executing people openly.
    My character was not able to voice my opinion or order it to stop. This is a game has a teen rating for kitten sakes.

    Logan came by and i think he would be the perfect person for this kind of atrocities.

    I wish this guild i never wanted to be in and the army i don't like best of luck and will be on my way into the next magical forest
    to do what i really want to do. Maybe i will build a little cabin right at a lake or a creek.
    But i will always look out for a damsel in distress like the little cute Asura in GW1 who was sad that his ears where to short to find a mate,
    going to find some special leafs as prosthetics.

    THIS is what i signed for.

    Sincerely,
    a defector (people who played the new map will understand)

    You aren't in charge of any of this or any army anymore. Especially the charr. Your group is just caught up in this mess doing the best you can. At least the charr haven't eviscerated you yet for your disagreement in their ways. They respect you enough to hear you out and end it at that.

    At the point of charr executing betrayers, leagues of charr before them did successfully side with the enemy and are almost completely annihilating the legions. Anyone deciding to betray after that should expect what is to happen to them in war.

    think about it: what is the purpose of the execution scene. gameplay? . cashshop?
    furthermore, i doubt many people log into a fantasy mmo to replay the daily news

    The purpose of that scene is to set the stage for the rest of the episode, it's a moment in time where you get a peek at the real Smodur...and it didn't remind me of the daily news. Don't recall seeing military executions for desertion on the daily news.

    Yes...no...maybe...what do you want, can't you see I'm busy saving the world...AGAIN!

  • REH.4390REH.4390 Member

    This has always been a problem for MMO's - the player is put on rails - even in games which proclaim "choose your way to play" and "make your mark" - invariably the writers lock your character down. This happened in SWTOR to my great dismay - an MMO that truly gave you originally great choices and freedom - up until you were forced to become an EMPEROR of the Galaxy for kitten's sake in an expansion release!

    I know there is the (questionable) necessity to have an overarching story arc...but it completely dismantles any and all aspects of role playing players who want to play a scoundrel or a lone wolf or a bad guy - or simply don't wish to be the important though somewhat impotent hero of the universe.

    TBH, I wish I could opt out of the personal story at this point. I always disliked the content gating via the story line because it always impeded me in what I wanted to do in the game.

  • Fenella.2634Fenella.2634 Member ✭✭✭

    @REH.4390 said:
    TBH, I wish I could opt out of the personal story at this point. I always disliked the content gating via the story line because it always impeded me in what I wanted to do in the game.

    What gating? If you want to, you can do the story on only one character and that's it. Core Tyria and LS2 maps can be entered regardless of the story. You can reach the HoT and PoF maps through guild halls. And for LS3-5 you just need to buy the portal scrolls once.
    I do agree, though. I'd also like to opt out of PS and LS2. I do like the story and I do replay it all the time, but not on each and every alt. With some alts I'd much rather see map completion objectives displayed instead of the next story step in the UI... Starting from HoT, the opt-in model is great. But I wish it was possible to exit the stories before HoT without playing them.

  • Fueki.4753Fueki.4753 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 1, 2020

    @Fenella.2634 said:
    With some alts I'd much rather see map completion objectives displayed instead of the next story step in the UI... Starting from HoT, the opt-in model is great. But I wish it was possible to exit the stories before HoT without playing them.

    You can disable the story in the content finder and minimize that snippet below the minimap, if it's annoying you too much.
    I don't like the brown star reminder of festivals or SAB either, but I never thought it should be disabled.

  • @battledrone.8315 said:

    @PseudoNewb.5468 said:
    You are NOT a commander of the fighting force that is why you are not in control. This episode makes that explicit. You are respected, but you are not in charge. And this episode is exactly set up in that manner. They are not your fighting force. You are there at the will of the imperators, and they are using you like a tool. But you take that, because you need to be as close to Jormag as possible, and you need to make sure Jormag doesn't succeed. Your cabin will be flattened by an iceberg, so now you have no choice but to follow fights with Jormag. Bangar probably wants to flatten your cute asura's grave too (along with the rest of Maguuma), so that certainly isn't where you are going is it?

    Perhaps it is time to level with Logan, and tell him, that the charr mess is not your cup of tea, and the Pact should prepare for a real assault on the dragon.

    but i still control my wallet. and this kitten is locking it tight. very few people want to pay for a bad experience.
    and if you want some kind of morale gauge, the game would need some systems to back it up a la swtor
    this is only a scene they put in to make us feel bad. let that sink in....

    hm, and who is paying for the episode?

  • @REH.4390 said:

    TBH, I wish I could opt out of the personal story at this point. I always disliked the content gating via the story line because it always impeded me in what I wanted to do in the game.

    well, you actually can. Nobody is forcing you to do any story step or episode. You can run around Tyria without ever completing a chapter.

  • battledrone.8315battledrone.8315 Member ✭✭✭

    @VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig.3618 said:

    @REH.4390 said:

    TBH, I wish I could opt out of the personal story at this point. I always disliked the content gating via the story line because it always impeded me in what I wanted to do in the game.

    well, you actually can. Nobody is forcing you to do any story step or episode. You can run around Tyria without ever completing a chapter.

    the tutorial is a story mission too. so you cant. and you are blocked from everything since launch, prolly more than ½ the game at this point
    prolly about a dozen zones i havent seen , because they are gated like that

  • Fueki.4753Fueki.4753 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @battledrone.8315 said:

    @VAHNeunzehnsechundsiebzig.3618 said:

    @REH.4390 said:

    TBH, I wish I could opt out of the personal story at this point. I always disliked the content gating via the story line because it always impeded me in what I wanted to do in the game.

    well, you actually can. Nobody is forcing you to do any story step or episode. You can run around Tyria without ever completing a chapter.

    the tutorial is a story mission too. so you cant. and you are blocked from everything since launch, prolly more than ½ the game at this point
    prolly about a dozen zones i havent seen , because they are gated like that

    You can still use a bunch of Teleport to Friends items, get the portal scrolls (or waypoints) and never touch the story after the intro again.

  • Smoosh.2718Smoosh.2718 Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 2, 2020

    Personally I want to join the Human Separatists....
    No Quarter spoiler:

    Which is why I am glad we had the choice to blow the Charr up in the recent story mission... I just wish we could pick our dialogue more though.

    I would be nice to see more development options like Mass Effect did, be the renegade, or be the hero. Have the option to save people, or let them die. Those options really bring out the player character relationship to the next level.

  • Kurrilino.2706Kurrilino.2706 Member ✭✭✭

    @Pifil.5193 said:

    @Kurrilino.2706 said:

    @sevenDEADLY.5281 said:
    You must be fun at parties.

    Standing up against public executions is party pooping............ Now i heard everything

    They weren't public executions, I know because the public wasn't there. It was a military firing squad for deserters and traitors.

    No one was there, no spectators or crowds, the commander just happened to walk by as it was happening.

    You must be kidding. This execution was in public. Lot's of regular Charr around who for any reason didn't even notice the execution. You could see it even from the war room tent.
    Anyways, it would still be my duty as a descend human being to raise my voice, doesn't matter how minor you guys experience an execution.

    Stuff like that has nothing to do with a Fantasy RPG. If people buy games like Battlefield or Call of Duty, people expect shootings and killing.
    But we are in Tyria. Do people remember how we started? We were adventurers protecting Bee Hives for little coin or threw snow balls at Norn childs.

  • Kurrilino.2706Kurrilino.2706 Member ✭✭✭

    @Zaklex.6308 said:

    @battledrone.8315 said:

    @Eloc Freidon.5692 said:

    @Kurrilino.2706 said:
    Dear A-Net.

    I demand to be released as Comander of this or any fighting force.
    When i bought the game i intended to be an adventurer hunting treasures and exploring dark forests and magical places.
    I didn't ask or would ever accept to be a leader of an army of any kind.

    Especially when i have no deciding power at all. Today i had to witness members of my fighting force executing people openly.
    My character was not able to voice my opinion or order it to stop. This is a game has a teen rating for kitten sakes.

    Logan came by and i think he would be the perfect person for this kind of atrocities.

    I wish this guild i never wanted to be in and the army i don't like best of luck and will be on my way into the next magical forest
    to do what i really want to do. Maybe i will build a little cabin right at a lake or a creek.
    But i will always look out for a damsel in distress like the little cute Asura in GW1 who was sad that his ears where to short to find a mate,
    going to find some special leafs as prosthetics.

    THIS is what i signed for.

    Sincerely,
    a defector (people who played the new map will understand)

    You aren't in charge of any of this or any army anymore. Especially the charr. Your group is just caught up in this mess doing the best you can. At least the charr haven't eviscerated you yet for your disagreement in their ways. They respect you enough to hear you out and end it at that.

    At the point of charr executing betrayers, leagues of charr before them did successfully side with the enemy and are almost completely annihilating the legions. Anyone deciding to betray after that should expect what is to happen to them in war.

    think about it: what is the purpose of the execution scene. gameplay? . cashshop?
    furthermore, i doubt many people log into a fantasy mmo to replay the daily news

    The purpose of that scene is to set the stage for the rest of the episode, it's a moment in time where you get a peek at the real Smodur...and it didn't remind me of the daily news. Don't recall seeing military executions for desertion on the daily news.

    You should really start to watch news beyond the local news of Sandusky, Ohio.
    Yes, the new opening of Jebediah's BBQ Hut is great news but there is more happening on our planet

  • Revolution.5409Revolution.5409 Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 4, 2020

    @Kurrilino.2706 said:
    You must be kidding. This execution was in public. Lot's of regular Charr around who for any reason didn't even notice the execution. You could see it even from the war room tent.
    Anyways, it would still be my duty as a descend human being to raise my voice, doesn't matter how minor you guys experience an execution.

    Stuff like that has nothing to do with a Fantasy RPG. If people buy games like Battlefield or Call of Duty, people expect shootings and killing.
    But we are in Tyria. Do people remember how we started? We were adventurers protecting Bee Hives for little coin or threw snow balls at Norn childs.

    If you are referring to the execution at the beginning of the chapter, the Charr legions have allied but each one is however managed individually by its own Emperor so if Smodur decides to execute the traitors of Iron Legion other emperors will not be able to prevent this it seems to me that Efram was referring to this as "Iron Business"

    Norn starts like this, instead the humans start killing bandits and centaurs already in Queensdale then with the progress of the various stories we discover that Flame Legion were killed in CoF, that Asura experiments on other races including the Sylvari and that Caithe and Faolain have killed many Asura to take revenge or when they exterminated a tribe of peaceful centaurs, I am not surprised at an execution, we have already seen worse.

  • Crab Fear.1624Crab Fear.1624 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Make up your own story on your favorite character and it wont really matter.

    Find some roleplay guild.

    Soon™ ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) nom nom nom🥔
    Fun Daredevil

  • sevenDEADLY.5281sevenDEADLY.5281 Member ✭✭✭

    @Pifil.5193 said:
    Yeah, I remember. I remember killing centaurs who were attacking a human village. Centaurs who hold humans in contempt and enslave or kill them in a race war that had carried on for hundreds of years.

    Then I killed ghosts that had breached the black citadel before being accused of causing the deaths of my entire warband by an incompetent centurion. Ghosts created by the slaughter of an entire nation of men, women and children through a single act of madness.

    Then I fought against nightmares in the Sylvari dream, nightmares caused by a sylvari faction that dedicated itself to torturing their own people and others,to causing as much pain and suffering as possible in order to corrupt the dream and twist all sylvari.

    Then I fought against agents of the Inquest who perform horrible experiments on anyone they want, killing or corrupting them as they will. Inquest who view other sentient creatures as assets, not people, to be used and discarded.

    Guess I should have started with norn.

    You personally kill thousands of people in this game. Convince yourself that it was all just snowballs and bee hives at the start if you want but it wasn't. Heck, for norn it was killing animals for the right to kill another animal. Another animal who was trapped for the purpose of being killed.

    Ignoring the misogynistic group of dragon worshipers who view females as less than nothing and kidnap and kill them, of course.

    Don't do this to him! His brain has purposely locked away the memories to prevent him from living the trauma of this online video game! THE HORRORS!

  • Pifil.5193Pifil.5193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @sevenDEADLY.5281 said:

    @Pifil.5193 said:
    Yeah, I remember. I remember killing centaurs who were attacking a human village. Centaurs who hold humans in contempt and enslave or kill them in a race war that had carried on for hundreds of years.

    Then I killed ghosts that had breached the black citadel before being accused of causing the deaths of my entire warband by an incompetent centurion. Ghosts created by the slaughter of an entire nation of men, women and children through a single act of madness.

    Then I fought against nightmares in the Sylvari dream, nightmares caused by a sylvari faction that dedicated itself to torturing their own people and others,to causing as much pain and suffering as possible in order to corrupt the dream and twist all sylvari.

    Then I fought against agents of the Inquest who perform horrible experiments on anyone they want, killing or corrupting them as they will. Inquest who view other sentient creatures as assets, not people, to be used and discarded.

    Guess I should have started with norn.

    You personally kill thousands of people in this game. Convince yourself that it was all just snowballs and bee hives at the start if you want but it wasn't. Heck, for norn it was killing animals for the right to kill another animal. Another animal who was trapped for the purpose of being killed.

    Ignoring the misogynistic group of dragon worshipers who view females as less than nothing and kidnap and kill them, of course.

    Don't do this to him! His brain has purposely locked away the memories to prevent him from living the trauma of this online video game! THE HORRORS!

    Sorry, you're right, I remember beehives and snowballs and helping kittens.

  • kratan.4619kratan.4619 Member ✭✭✭

    Don't really mind the story this time around, short and sweet. Plus I got to drop a bomb down an air vent.

  • Moyayuki.3619Moyayuki.3619 Member ✭✭✭

    I haven't even made it to Season 4 (haven't even beat Path of Fire because I've been distracted by other games), and ever since HoT I've been feeling less and less excited about my PC's story and personality. My PC would never demonize Caithe the way they did in HoT and the Living World story that followed. And based on what I'm hearing here (I'm not clicking on the spoiler tags), it seems things are getting much worse.

    Ok, yeah, I'm all for a good story with hard moral questions that need to be answered, but when this game first came out the big deal was deciding your character's own story and personality. Now the Commander is what the game devs want them to be, not what we want. It makes me nervous about even considering touching the LW story at all, now. :(

  • casualkenny.9817casualkenny.9817 Member ✭✭✭

    It was only as recently as the past 65 yrs that SOME countries stopped executing traitors. On earth.

    Besides, rytlock and the Ash imperator (and probably other charr) thinks smodur is an idiot for doing it. Malice thinks it is a waste.

    Finally, when an imperator calls you commander, he in no way thinks of u as his commander. You are/were a commander in a (currently)-friendly army, the Pact, that's it. Its like addressing a retired general from another country by his previous title as a courtesy. If you try to give him commands, you will soon have a claws-vs-fingernails discussion. Likewise if u try to give commands to the veggies, rats, norn and humans. You can't even give commands to pact soldiers since u r no longer in the chain of command.

  • Klypto.1703Klypto.1703 Member ✭✭✭

    @casualkenny.9817 said:
    It was only as recently as the past 65 yrs that SOME countries stopped executing traitors. On earth.

    Besides, rytlock and the Ash imperator (and probably other charr) thinks smodur is an idiot for doing it. Malice thinks it is a waste.

    Finally, when an imperator calls you commander, he in no way thinks of u as his commander. You are/were a commander in a (currently)-friendly army, the Pact, that's it. Its like addressing a retired general from another country by his previous title as a courtesy. If you try to give him commands, you will soon have a claws-vs-fingernails discussion. Likewise if u try to give commands to the veggies, rats, norn and humans. You can't even give commands to pact soldiers since u r no longer in the chain of command.

    Who says they stopped? There is a difference between stopping and just doing it and no one finding out about it :)

    Plus the Charr are a warrior race and Smodur is just reminding them of who and what they are. Its just that those Charr having been around humans too long they start becoming weak and thinking like the humans.

  • mindcircus.1506mindcircus.1506 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Kurrilino.2706 said:
    But we are in Tyria. Do people remember how we started? We were adventurers protecting Bee Hives for little coin or threw snow balls at Norn childs.

    Actually where we started...
    What the Charr did in the Searing?
    Justicar Hablion conducting Human Sacrifices?

    "We recognize that some players are not able to complete all content." Gaile Gray 01.10.19

  • Rogue.4756Rogue.4756 Member ✭✭✭

    You're not the commander. You were the pact commander at one point but relinquished the position. It's just an honorary title. However, it isn't up to you. It isn't your game to choose.

  • battledrone.8315battledrone.8315 Member ✭✭✭

    @Rogue.4756 said:
    You're not the commander. You were the pact commander at one point but relinquished the position. It's just an honorary title. However, it isn't up to you. It isn't your game to choose.

    wrong, i just resubbed to dcuo instead. choice is a wonderful thing

  • Yggranya.5201Yggranya.5201 Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 27, 2020

    @Fenella.2634 said:
    I have not finished this current episode yet, but if nothing major changed, then your demand has already been answered.
    The Player Character resigned from their position in the Pact back in Season 3. The title is just a title now, we are no longer in the Pact hierarchy. Formally, the PC is just a guild leader now.

    This execution you are talking about: As I said, I haven't played much of the episode yet, but do you mean the one in the beginning? If so, it was not our army. The PC was a commander of the Pact specifically, not of any army they happen to be working with.

    I think GW2 has actually a pretty good balance of acknowledging that the PC deals with a lot of major threats, but still doesn't put us in a position where we'd have to have too much decision power logically.

    Even in the pact, the "commander" was told by mooks what to do and where to go, They never commanded anything or anyone.

  • Yggranya.5201Yggranya.5201 Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 27, 2020

    @mindcircus.1506 said:

    @Kurrilino.2706 said:
    I demand to be released as Comander of this or any fighting force.

    You release is hearby granted. Forging forward please ignore any and all references to Living World in your email.

    When i bought the game i intended to be an adventurer hunting treasures and exploring dark forests and magical places.

    By all means... the world is all there for you to explore. Feel free. There's treasure just hanging around on chests on the ground almost everywhere you go.

    I didn't ask or would ever accept to be a leader of an army of any kind.

    And yet every time we asked for your help you accepted it. When Taimi fired up your communicator, you listened. When letters were sent to your email, rather than ignore them or say "no thanks" you responded in person.
    Imagine our surprise when after 7 years of responding to our requests, you now decide to say you never asked for it. People have never held back their praise or been stingy with their rewards.
    You have accepted both happily.

    But i will always look out for a damsel in distress like the little cute Asura in GW1 who was sad that his ears where to short to find a mate,
    going to find some special leafs as prosthetics.

    THIS is what i signed for.

    We are sorry you don't have the stomach for the road ahead. Rest assured there are others who do.
    The are people all across Tyria however, who's hearts can be made full with your desire to help them and we wish you the best.

    -Sincerely yours
    The Pact

    PS:Please return the Caladbolg to the Pale Tree. She wants a hero with some resolve to wield the weapon

    You mean she wants a marionette on destinys strings. Remember destiny's edge? We have come full circle, all "heros" are puppets to dragons.

  • otto.5684otto.5684 Member ✭✭✭✭

    during core and HoT we were a commander with an army. Now we are a commander with no army. The title and our role no longer make sense. For the most part we were a grunt doing Tami’s work. she is the “commander.” But that is MMO story for you.

  • pah.4931pah.4931 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Gonna have to agree. WoW made this mistake as well. We don't want to be the GOD KINGS. That's when the story is over. The story is over when Strider finally takes on his crown as King Elessar Telcontar of Gondor. The story is over when Harry Potter is the accepted hero by the whole wizarding community.

    Being the supreme leader is boring. I want to go on adventures and help a village with its dragon problem and then move on. Saving the world grows tiresome. Saving a few people never gets old.

  • SAROMON.9158SAROMON.9158 Member ✭✭

    Time for a revolution!!!

  • subversiontwo.7501subversiontwo.7501 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Oof, what a blundered opportunity.
    I think there is plenty of room for critique on how becomming the commander has limited ways to shape the story when going further.
    That you are upset by the tacky "war crimes" narrative of this LW episode is hardly the basis for good discussion however.
    Poor thread, publically executed too early B)