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Genuine Imposter achievement : how does it work?

It is an achievement in the first story instance: Behind Enemy Lines.
You need to be spotted by dominion soldiers and convince them to let you go 10 times.

Does anyone understand how it works? Seems random to me (and so it's really annoying to retry it).

Some suggest (in guide) it depends on armor types (heavy, leather), but it doesn't work for me.

Carcharoth Lucian/Mini Chibii
Ruin of Surmia world
PvE : [CdL] Les Chasseurs De Légendes
WvW : [MIMs] Mobile Ingénieuse Et Marteau

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  • Andy.5981Andy.5981 Member ✭✭✭

    I've run three characters through this section of the story so far. Syvlari Ranger, Charr Thief, Human Warrior.

    The Ranger did the whole part without being seen, however with the Charr and Human I decided to have a go trying to get the Genuine Imposter.

    Charr did far better with talking his way out of trouble than the Human. I've got 8/10 from him. I did restart the instance three times, but the success rate was far higher than my Human character who didn't manage to add the remaining 2 despite two restarts and encountering all three patrol groups.

    I did notice that the icon for the illusion does mention that it doesnt hold up to close scrutiny and to keep a distance. Also the arc shaped vision fields do seem to have marked area at their furthest distance from the NPC.

    BTW you do realise you don't have to do it all in one go?

  • Carcharoth Lucian.1378Carcharoth Lucian.1378 Member ✭✭✭
    edited August 1, 2020

    yeah i have seen that guide before = it doesn't work.

    @Andy.5981 said:
    I've run three characters through this section of the story so far. Syvlari Ranger, Charr Thief, Human Warrior.

    The Ranger did the whole part without being seen, however with the Charr and Human I decided to have a go trying to get the Genuine Imposter.

    Charr did far better with talking his way out of trouble than the Human. I've got 8/10 from him. I did restart the instance three times, but the success rate was far higher than my Human character who didn't manage to add the remaining 2 despite two restarts and encountering all three patrol groups.

    I tried it with my engi charr but it was not successful (1 by instance). How do you choose the answers?

    I did notice that the icon for the illusion does mention that it doesnt hold up to close scrutiny and to keep a distance. Also the arc shaped vision fields do seem to have marked area at their furthest distance from the NPC.

    Hum, i will look at that.

    BTW you do realise you don't have to do it all in one go?

    Sure^^ But you have to wait for 2 mins each time you restart it (blabla npc), that's annoying ^^

    Carcharoth Lucian/Mini Chibii
    Ruin of Surmia world
    PvE : [CdL] Les Chasseurs De Légendes
    WvW : [MIMs] Mobile Ingénieuse Et Marteau

  • Galmac.4680Galmac.4680 Member ✭✭✭

    I just entered the instance and chose always answer #1, was enough for all three beach parts. That unskippable talking before was quite bad then, but nevermind.

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  • @Andy.5981 said:
    I did notice that the icon for the illusion does mention that it doesnt hold up to close scrutiny and to keep a distance. Also the arc shaped vision fields do seem to have marked area at their furthest distance from the NPC.

    I retried it and that suggestion seems to work, nice :)

    Carcharoth Lucian/Mini Chibii
    Ruin of Surmia world
    PvE : [CdL] Les Chasseurs De Légendes
    WvW : [MIMs] Mobile Ingénieuse Et Marteau

  • Andy.5981Andy.5981 Member ✭✭✭

    @Carcharoth Lucian.1378 said:

    yeah i have seen that guide before = it doesn't work.

    @Andy.5981 said:
    I've run three characters through this section of the story so far. Syvlari Ranger, Charr Thief, Human Warrior.

    The Ranger did the whole part without being seen, however with the Charr and Human I decided to have a go trying to get the Genuine Imposter.

    Charr did far better with talking his way out of trouble than the Human. I've got 8/10 from him. I did restart the instance three times, but the success rate was far higher than my Human character who didn't manage to add the remaining 2 despite two restarts and encountering all three patrol groups.

    I tried it with my engi charr but it was not successful (1 by instance). How do you choose the answers?

    I did notice that the icon for the illusion does mention that it doesnt hold up to close scrutiny and to keep a distance. Also the arc shaped vision fields do seem to have marked area at their furthest distance from the NPC.

    Hum, i will look at that.

    BTW you do realise you don't have to do it all in one go?

    Sure^^ But you have to wait for 2 mins each time you restart it (blabla npc), that's annoying ^^

    The answers I picked on my Charr thief were random but seemed to work more successfully than doing the same thing on my Human Warrior!

    I think it probably works the further away from the NPC you are? Perhaps more chance of success if you are at the very edge of their 'field of view'?

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I didn't notice any pattern including the one mentioned in that guide. It was essentially just going in and hoping RNG was on my side for each section.

  • One nice thing is that when you do guess correctly, you can keep getting discovered by the same dominion soldier and use the same answer a few times in a row. I've been able to go 3-4 times before an attack is triggered.

  • This has to be one of the dumbest "achievements" in the game. No pattern, all random, and you have to restart it a dozen times to complete it.

    Please ANet - you're better than this!

  • Donari.5237Donari.5237 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Huh, when I used that guide it had more in it, saying that the glow color of the charr determined the response, eg if you have a heavy armor charr glowing red, the fist of fury response is the correct one. And it worked for me, I got 6/10 in one go and it was just me clumsily getting tagged by other charr meanwhile that had me run out of charr before I got 10.

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Donari.5237 said:
    Huh, when I used that guide it had more in it, saying that the glow color of the charr determined the response, eg if you have a heavy armor charr glowing red, the fist of fury response is the correct one. And it worked for me, I got 6/10 in one go and it was just me clumsily getting tagged by other charr meanwhile that had me run out of charr before I got 10.

    Probably because it was more of a coincidence that it worked out that way so the author removed it. For me it was completely random.

  • Kunzaito.8169Kunzaito.8169 Member ✭✭✭

    This achievement really is terrible. It's obviously not hard, and there are definitely more tedious achievements. But it's utterly lazy and pointless - you couldn't find a better example of something put in the game just to waste time. They couldn't come up with anything better than this? The correct choice is random, and once you aggro a group you have to beat them, meaning you only get three "tries" per run. And you have to sit through the interminable and unskippable dialogue at the start each time. What made them decide that 10 was the right number for this? Why not just once so you get the experience of doing it and that's it? Why not 3 times? Why make you open this story instance over and over again just to pick a random dialogue option and see if it works?

    The only thing you "achieve" doing this is putting up with boredom.

  • crepuscular.9047crepuscular.9047 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited August 29, 2020

    i just went for the pair of the blue iron legion charrs walking together and pick crown, sometimes i would fail on the first time interacting, there was one time i managed to get to repeatedly answer 3 times correctly but aggroed on the 4th, and relog when aggroed

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  • Yoroiookami.3485Yoroiookami.3485 Member ✭✭
    edited September 25, 2020

    So to sum it up - the outcome of your choices is completely random. Hitting the very edge of the enemy vision doesn't work, because they approach you 0.5 second after you make contact. The colour of their glow doesn't matter. Your virtue (charm, honor, brute) doesn't matter either. And every time you fail, you have to either defeat 10 enemies and move to the next group, hoping it will turn out better, or restart the mission and waste 2-3 minutes of your time listening to that stupid NPC dialogue. A quest designed to waste your time. Well done.

    P.S. Picking charm seems to fail almost every time for me. Maybe it's random, or maybe it means something. I don't know at this point.

  • If you get it right on one of them, the same option seems to be correct for that charr for the rest of the session. I just finished the achievement by stepping into one charr's field 7x and giving the same answer every time.

  • Ayrilana.1396Ayrilana.1396 Member ✭✭✭✭

    That would have been RNG favoring you most likely.

  • ok i got it 10 for 10. get in the sight thing, and get back out of it before answering. answer choice dosnt matter.