What Canthan themed legend would you like to see?

So we're going to Cantha in the next expansion. What lore figure or theme would you like for the new elite spec? What'd be the best fit?

PoF's Legend wasn't from the Desert. What makes you think EoD's needs to be from Cantha?

A samurai legend to pair with shiro, gs/dual swords build be fun, lord of the blade :) low sustain high mobility sword wielder that does high spike dps. I kno I kno shiro/glint does this already but feels kinda like pow revs thing especially shiro's. Save the supporting for renegade lol.

I doubt we're getting a Cantha themed legend, we already have Shiro for that.

Nonetheless I hope it is an "evil" legend, or at least somewhat chaotic aligned, since we currently have 4 good and 2 evil legends, to restore balance.

If it had to be Cantha, then maybe one of the other Envoys?

• Herald Demrikov - Sword
• Emissary Heleyne - Staff
• Messenger Vetaura - Scythe (So Staff in GW2)
• Courier Torivos could give us a MH axe and we could learn more about why he became an Envoy. I doubt it, since it would be another "human" legend though.

Non-Canthans that fit the bill would be (my opinion)

• Svanir / Nornbear - Makes sense with the current IBS, his "legend" is big enough to have spawned an entire cult of Jormag worshippers
• Balthazar - Legendary God stance, obvious why he would have "legend"-status

(Please no Togo, he's just part of Shiro's legend. I'd rather have a Joke-legendary Naga elementalist - Lispy Stinkface.)

I would like to see multiple characters instead of just one. My choice would be the four grand celestials:

• Kaiju Don, the Kirin, the embodiment of corruption.
• Kuonghsang, the Turtle Dragon, the eternal paradox.
• Hai Jii, the Phoenix, the representation of fiery eternity in the Underworld.
• Tahmu, the Dragon, a reminder of atrocity, pain, and anguish.

The elite specialization would be named the Stargazer and have astrology themes. The slot skills would be minions, one per celestial, plus an elite skill that changes depending on the number and type of active celestials. And of course, greatsword as the weapon.

My personal favourite would be Master Togo.I really liked him as a character in GW1 and ritualist was my favourite class in the first game, so I would like to see it referenced in the revenant class.

@Kodama.6453 said:My personal favourite would be Master Togo.I really liked him as a character in GW1 and ritualist was my favourite class in the first game, so I would like to see it referenced in the revenant class.

This. It's going full circle for Revenant. But if they decide to not go for the Ritualist name, we at least have to learn from them.

It'd like to see Mhenlo.The specialization could get Scepter+Focus.

@Fueki.4753 said:It'd like to see Mhenlo.The specialization could get Scepter+Focus.

I don't think that anet will combine 2 different weapons for an elite spec.Dual wielding the same weapon, like the daggers for spellbreaker, are one thing. They still got access to just 1 weapon type: dagger.

But combining something like scepter and focus in a bundle is a different story.

Nika, or miku(winds of change and friend of keiran thackery) or even vizu(she who struck shiro down giving the champions chance to finish him)

Togo.

Along with a Rev rework.

Oppressor - Legendary Illusionist - Reiko: Scepter + Focus (I only say with focus because we currently lack an offhand to really support a range main hand weapon). [Think this would also be great for possible interesting dialogue with Charr, Asura, and Sylvari (and Tengu if they become playable]. Utilities could be similar to Deceptions. A blink like skill would be nice, disengage abilities, and maybe an elite like thieves guild (given Reiko summons a bunch of clones when we fight her they could look more like clones, but a little more useful).

Exorcist - Legendary Purger - Xun Rao: Mid range Great Sword or mid range Dagger/Dagger (His picture depicts him with a sword, but he never appeared in game so no idea what his weapon of choice actually was. We need a good mid range power option, though, so anything that could fill that would be great). [in the same vein as Reiko it would be interesting to have an "Evil" character that had something to do with the current state of Cantha]. Utilities could be Consecrations, but instead of being supportive make them offensive in nature.

Warden - Legendary Spirit - Urgoz: Longbow. (I know we just got SB with Ren, but we need a good ranged power weapon given how bad Hammer is. And they could even add flair by making it do increase damage the closer the target is and have a couple of the skills based on pulling enemies in). I would like to see Spirit weapons return (not like Guardian spirit weapons, but more like the way Venoms on thief work. Unique buffs that last a couple seconds or have a few charges on them). Splinter weapon would be great (bring back Splinter Barrage!)

I'd say Kanaxai, but we already have a Demon stance and I don't really see him adding much to our skill set with a mainhand axe most likely being his weapon. Togo and Mhenlo I don't really want as they'd just be more "good" characters. And given Togo was a spirit spammer and Mhenlo was a healer I'd rather not have another spirit spamming spec or support spec. Vizu and Nika are out given they're both assassins and we already have an assassin stance (and they're both "good" characters). I'd like to say Talon Silverwing, Swift or Soar Honorclaw, but they are all warriors (even if Swifts skills were necromancers in the story). Suun could make for an alright Legend, as someone brought up the "Stargazer" idea of which he could be the legend to channel for that (but is a "good" character).

They could introduce a new character, much like they did with Kalla, and slap them in as the next Legend. Mostly looking for a Mid ranged power weapon with utilities and traits that aren't geared mostly for support. Would love to see mid range Daggers over GS, though, that's for sure. Enough classes can use GS as it is.

@"Lonami.2987" said:I would like to see multiple characters instead of just one. My choice would be the four grand celestials:

• Kaiju Don, the Kirin, the embodiment of corruption.
• Kuonghsang, the Turtle Dragon, the eternal paradox.
• Hai Jii, the Phoenix, the representation of fiery eternity in the Underworld.
• Tahmu, the Dragon, a reminder of atrocity, pain, and anguish.

The elite specialization would be named the Stargazer and have astrology themes. The slot skills would be minions, one per celestial, plus an elite skill that changes depending on the number and type of active celestials. And of course, greatsword as the weapon.

The actual name to go with that fluff would be Oracle.

That said, we've already had a summoner elite. If they were to go with this approach, I'd rather they take something more like the Glint facet approach where each skill invoked the celestial without being a summon.

I'd really prefer they didn't go with anything ritualist. While there are fluff similarities, revenants are not ritualists and should not be twisted into being them. They're their own thing, and they've already had a pseudo-ritualist elite specialisation in Renegade.

The classical archetype of the blind ronin samurai is the perfect match for the revenant. Therefore one that carries a greatsword be a Tengu or a Norn.

@mindcircus.1506 said:PoF's Legend wasn't from the Desert. What makes you think EoD's needs to be from Cantha?

HoT was Glint who was heavily tied to Tarir and the Aurene story going forward. You're right about PoF but the whole thing was just so weird. Every profession had an Elona themed elite spec except Rev, which would have been the easiest to tie in. Hopefully it was a one-off, but right now it's 1-1.

Maybe Anet didn't want to add another human or centaur and there weren't any good candidates for other races in Elona? For Cantha they could look to some ancient Tengu or Naga if they really want to avoid humans, but I think it'd be silly to exclude them.

What would be cool and throwback to GW1:Mhenlo -> focusCynn -> MH axeDevona -> OH MaceTalon Silverwing -> GreatswordSvanir -> Become a corrupted Bear!

What would be more relevant to the storyline:Balthazar -> Greatsword and flamesJoko -> Get minions to blowupEir -> Get Longbow for better long range pew pew

I'd really like Balthazar., just to hear him grumble again.

Togo is an obvious choice, Im guessing he could be a spec based around summons/minions or shades/spirits as well as some lightning element.Togo was a famous Ritualist in Gw1 who was a big part of the Factions storyline, he was headmaster of Shing Jea Monastery and was killed by Shiro.

Other's that come to mind would be:Talon Silverwing.A DPS spec that could grant Greatsword or Longbow.. he was a Warrior/Ranger in Gw1 and his primary weapons were a Sword and Shield.Rev already has MH Sword and Herald grants the Shield so those two weapons are off the table.

Cynn.A spec based on AoE support and CC, could grant Sceptor or Focus.. Cynn was a powerful Elementalist in Gw1 that mostly used Fire spells, during Eye of the North she duel classed into a Elementalist/Paragon

Vizu.A spec based on mobility that could grant Daggers, MH/OH or both.. Vizu was a assassin who became famed as a Hero for her role in killing Shiro even though she was killed in the Jade Wind shortly after, she was able to outrun the Jade wind for a short time by using shadowstep skills to stay ahead of the blast.This spec may clash with Shiro's role as a legend.

Danika zu Heltzer.A spec based on healing or support that could grant Sceptor, Focus or land Trident.. Danika was a Kurzick Monk and a direct decendant of Saint Viktor zu Heltzer, one of the two champions who delivered the killing blow to Shiro after he had been disarmed by Vizu.

This last one is actually a single Legend made of two people.Viktor & Archemorus.A DPS spec based on multi hits that could grant Greatsword or Land Spear.. Saint Viktor and Archemorus were the great Kurzick and Luxon heroes that together dealt the killing blow to Shiro Tagachi after Vizu disarmed him.Both of these heroes died during the Jade wind's initial explosion, their remains were returned to their people and became treasured artifacts.The Urn of Saint Viktor contained the ashes of the Kurzick champion Saint Viktor and the bones of the Luxon hero Archemorus were forged into a powerful spear called the Spear of Archemorus.

Personally, I'd consider it a bit of a waste if the legend is anything that maps directly onto a profession, whether GW1 or GW2.

I mean, look at the existing ones. Mallyx, Shiro, and Glint transcended regular professions. Ventari and Jalis were more normal in life (although I don't think we know what specifically Ventari was) but when you channel them, you're not really channeling their abilities but the effect of what they did. When you channel Ventari, you're really channeling Ventari's effect on the sylvari. When you channel Jalis, you're really channeling the Great Dwarf, Jalis is just the focal point. Even in Kalla's case, you're basically channeling the entire revolution and its effects on the charr.

If someone's claim to fame is "they were a really good (profession)", then ditch that noise. We have warriors, guardians, thieves, rangers, necromancers, and elementalists in game already, we don't need the revenant trying to pretend to be one... and, honestly, I don't think there's any way they can bolt "ritualist" onto core revenant that's actually going to satisfy the people who want it. Ritualist themes would work much better as an elite spec attached to a regular profession that's already a bit ritualist-like in playstyle and which allows the ability to pick and choose utilities like guardian or necromancer, rather than bolting it on to a profession where the ritualist elements would be fixed into a set five skills and it's going to spend half its time being something completely different.

If the new legend is to be Canthan-themed at all (which I don't think it has to be), then let's go crazy and come up with something we'd never see from a conventional profession. Zhu Hanuku, say. Zunraa, perhaps, although that's probably a bit on the weaker side. Urgoz, maybe. Possibly push aside Kanaxai since we already have a Legendary Demon Stance, but maybe it could be a Legendary Oni Stance instead. And that's just off the top of my head. I'm sure Arenanet can come up with something more interesting for a legend than pretending to be some other profession!

I do want to see GS. This is because the pure dps of rev is lower then other classes are capable of. Rev has utility out the ass from elite specs and healing from core.Hybrid self sustain is also very high. Rev currently is decent if not very good at all those but lacks the full out dps of other classes. GS would just work well in the sense of what everyone has always been asking for. People just like having a GS. I do feel that weapon is probably the highest probability but the legend really does not matter. They have many choices that are flexible.BalthkralkzhaitanmordjokovlasteirsnaffBasically anyone either in the mists or the underworld could become a legend as long as they are one. Kalla was pretty random anyway so that shows they are not against going with whatever works for what they want to do. It will probably be a GS though which could more so be any of the dragons or balth. Truthfully it could also be this NEW DRAGON. Unnamed. Since this could be a dead one speaking through the mists.So a GS dps focused elite spec is most likely. Second is a caster dps focued elite spec. They would choose whatever legend lets them theme the skills in a way that does not conflict or overlap too much with other classes and specs.

@"Raknar.4735" said:

• Balthazar - Legendary God stance, obvious why he would have "legend"-statusHe can't be channeled, when a god dies (Like Abadon as well) They cease to exist because they are one with the mists and born from it. So unfortunantly we will NEVER be able to channel the six or any of the six unless they retcon that handy gem.(Please no Togo, he's just part of Shiro's legend. I'd rather have a Joke-legendary Naga elementalist - Lispy Stinkface.)yes I agree with this....

@"draxynnic.3719" said:Personally, I'd consider it a bit of a waste if the legend is anything that maps directly onto a profession, whether GW1 or GW2.

I mean, look at the existing ones. Mallyx, Shiro, and Glint transcended regular professions. Ventari and Jalis were more normal in life (although I don't think we know what specifically Ventari was) but when you channel them, you're not really channeling their abilities but the effect of what they did. When you channel Ventari, you're really channeling Ventari's effect on the sylvari. When you channel Jalis, you're really channeling the Great Dwarf, Jalis is just the focal point. Even in Kalla's case, you're basically channeling the entire revolution and its effects on the charr.

If someone's claim to fame is "they were a really good (profession)", then ditch that noise. We have warriors, guardians, thieves, rangers, necromancers, and elementalists in game already, we don't need the revenant trying to pretend to be one... and, honestly, I don't think there's any way they can bolt "ritualist" onto core revenant that's actually going to satisfy the people who want it. Ritualist themes would work much better as an elite spec attached to a regular profession that's already a bit ritualist-like in playstyle and which allows the ability to pick and choose utilities like guardian or necromancer, rather than bolting it on to a profession where the ritualist elements would be fixed into a set five skills and it's going to spend half its time being something completely different.

If the new legend is to be Canthan-themed at all (which I don't think it has to be), then let's go crazy and come up with something we'd never see from a conventional profession. Zhu Hanuku, say. Zunraa, perhaps, although that's probably a bit on the weaker side. Urgoz, maybe. Possibly push aside Kanaxai since we already have a Legendary Demon Stance, but maybe it could be a Legendary Oni Stance instead. And that's just off the top of my head. I'm sure Arenanet can come up with something more interesting for a legend than pretending to be some other profession!

What about Urgoz? I mean he could fit and would fit the dark nature of the forest. Heck Id even take one of the envoy's and have them bring in what an envoy is and as they are an envoy the fluff for the spec could be, rather than channeling the legend we are channeling them. So we basically become their aspect; Physically manifested and made flesh upon the waking world? But I think Svanir, Asgeir or even Olaf are more likely candidates.... their ramifications and reputations as well as the effects they had on their people and the world is profound. (Svanir specifically)

Zinn, Vheek, Oola, Gadd are all great canidates too as ALL of them had huge effects on the story. Or hell go full hog on it and do one of the emperors of the past? Perhaps even... the one Shiro killed? Or one even further back, and give us some dragon-emperor vibes? Id take ANYTHING over a ritualist spec that would be done better, and do more for an existing class (Give the guardian, a selfish condi spec.... Like they have DH which is a selfish power spec. They now have a support... give the poor kids another way to play...)

@Kodama.6453 said:My personal favourite would be Master Togo.I really liked him as a character in GW1 and ritualist was my favourite class in the first game, so I would like to see it referenced in the revenant class.

Only if his legend gets a -50% movement speed for realism.

@Thornwolf.9721 said:

@"draxynnic.3719" said:Personally, I'd consider it a bit of a waste if the legend is anything that maps directly onto a profession, whether GW1 or GW2.

I mean, look at the existing ones. Mallyx, Shiro, and Glint transcended regular professions. Ventari and Jalis were more normal in life (although I don't think we know what specifically Ventari was) but when you channel them, you're not really channeling their abilities but the effect of what they did. When you channel Ventari, you're

really

channeling Ventari's effect on the sylvari. When you channel Jalis, you're really channeling the Great Dwarf, Jalis is just the focal point. Even in Kalla's case, you're basically channeling the entire revolution and its effects on the charr.

If someone's claim to fame is "they were a really good (profession)", then ditch that noise. We have warriors, guardians, thieves, rangers, necromancers, and elementalists in game already, we don't need the revenant trying to pretend to be one... and, honestly, I don't think there's any way they can bolt "ritualist" onto core revenant that's actually going to satisfy the people who want it. Ritualist themes would work much better as an elite spec attached to a regular profession that's already a bit ritualist-like in playstyle and which allows the ability to pick and choose utilities like guardian or necromancer, rather than bolting it on to a profession where the ritualist elements would be fixed into a set five skills and it's going to spend half its time being something completely different.

If the new legend is to be Canthan-themed at all (which I don't think it has to be), then let's go crazy and come up with something we'd never see from a conventional profession. Zhu Hanuku, say. Zunraa, perhaps, although that's probably a bit on the weaker side. Urgoz, maybe. Possibly push aside Kanaxai since we already have a Legendary Demon Stance, but maybe it could be a Legendary Oni Stance instead. And that's just off the top of my head. I'm

sure

Arenanet can come up with something more interesting for a legend than pretending to be some other profession!

I did list Urgoz in there. Probably not my first choice, since it'd be another bow legend right after Kalla, and both bosses kinda share a theme with Dragon's Lair that a lot of the problem is through environmental effects and therefore they might be a bit similar to Glint.

Envoys are an interesting possibility. They're largely blank slates, so ArenaNet could do what they like with them. Torivos could be a good possibility, since that would present the possibility of mainhand axe.

Olaf, Zinn, Oola, and Gadd all have the issues of essentially having regular professions (unless it's all going to be golem-based in the case of the latter three, but I'm not sure that I'd regard a golem-based spec as appropriate for revenant). Vheek I don't recognise, and neither does either wiki. Asgeir, while norn, is enough of a blank slate that they can probably do something with him, while Svanir actually makes for a good candidate since he had a solid set of monster-only skills that could be used to build a legendary stance around.

Anything Kodan; weapon: ground spear.Runner up: Jora; weapon: greatsword.