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zyra.7860zyra.7860 Member ✭✭

Hi, this is the recent "Class tier list"-made by highest ranked PvP-players. E-specs have included to tiers.

S tier (Meta) - Engi, Guard, Rev
A tier (Very good)- Necro, Ele
B tier - (Not good, not terrible) Thief, Ranger, Mesmer
C tier (Useless tier) - Warrior

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  • Dave.6819Dave.6819 Member ✭✭✭

    @Tharan.9085 said:
    Imagine thinking thief is B tier, how biased are you?

    Shortbow 5 and dash carries it. Take those away and it's useless in pvp cuz it cant really be a teamfighter.

    Physical Supremacy: This trait now causes Steal to become Swipe, which reduces the range from 1,200 to 600

    So who's the Thief now?
    2019.04.23 -Anet

  • @Tharan.9085 said:
    Imagine thinking thief is B tier, how biased are you?

    Thief is bad class, u cant win either engi, guard, rev, necro or ele in 1v1 if they equally skilled.

  • @Tharan.9085 said:

    @zyra.7860 said:

    @Tharan.9085 said:
    Imagine thinking thief is B tier, how biased are you?

    Thief is bad class, u cant win either engi, guard, rev, necro or ele in 1v1 if they equally skilled.

    Thief isnt a 1v1 class btw

    Well my cousin who is plat 2 invented thief build that is 1v1 and he says also thief is 1v1 class but weak in that role with current meta.

  • Tharan.9085Tharan.9085 Member ✭✭✭

    @zyra.7860 said:

    @Tharan.9085 said:

    @zyra.7860 said:

    @Tharan.9085 said:
    Imagine thinking thief is B tier, how biased are you?

    Thief is bad class, u cant win either engi, guard, rev, necro or ele in 1v1 if they equally skilled.

    Thief isnt a 1v1 class btw

    Well my cousin who is plat 2 invented thief build that is 1v1 and he says also thief is 1v1 class but weak in that role with current meta.

    Your cousin created an Off Meta build in mid tier, thief isnt a 1v1 class

  • felix.2386felix.2386 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 11, 2020

    Thief has it's own category and will always be meta because of it. even if become b tier.
    also thief can 1v1 just as much as everybody else, but you have to build for it like everybody else you can't just play high mobility gank builds and expect to 1v1 people.
    what makes thief not optimal for 1v1 only because stealth doesnt hold point.

    here's more accurate tier, in terms of best build.

    S ele (support tempest), engi (nade holo)
    A thief (d/p drd), rev (power), necro (reaper)
    A- guardian (symbol FB)
    B ranger (core LB/GS ranger), mesmer (carrion axe)
    C warrior(power spellbreaker)

    warrior has been unplayable in pvp
    for 6 months till now

    good job balance team

  • uberkingkong.8041uberkingkong.8041 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 11, 2020

    @zyra.7860 said:
    Hi, this is the recent "Class tier list"-made by highest ranked PvP-players. E-specs have included to tiers.

    S tier (Meta) - Engi, Guard, Rev
    A tier (Very good)- Necro, Ele
    B tier - (Not good, not terrible) Thief, Ranger, Mesmer
    C tier (Useless tier) - Warrior

    To a degree I agree.
    ** Only reason why some feel Meta is because the ones that are suppose to counter them are Useless. **
    Warrior can't 100blade that guy doing torment in peoples faces (every second is damage, 100b is BO BO BO BOOM)
    Warrior can't 100blade that guy that likes to build shroud then get in peoples face (no warrior to eat his shroud with his 100 blades)

    I'm not sure what suggestions are here, but if you want to nerf that isn't the best route.
    BUFF the warrior and you'll see result.
    I aint talking about (oh make him cc more)
    I'm talking about what he was originally designed for.
    You get in his face stand next to him and just want to PBAE conditions on people.
    He's designed to MOP FLOOR with people who want to get close and stay in his face.

    Notice your not so good, they all range, because people can get away with getting in your face and just do PBAE's.
    You need someone who eats PBAE's players for breakfast.
    Make Warrior Great Again

  • Shiyo.3578Shiyo.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @zyra.7860 said:
    Hi, this is the recent "Class tier list"-made by highest ranked PvP-players. E-specs have included to tiers.

    S tier (Meta) - Engi, Guard, Rev
    A tier (Very good)- Necro, Ele
    B tier - (Not good, not terrible) Thief, Ranger, Mesmer
    C tier (Useless tier) - Warrior

    lol thief B tier. Guard S tier, my god, no. Tell this to any top10 player/best of the best AT team and see their reaction.

  • Bazsi.2734Bazsi.2734 Member ✭✭✭

    @Grimjack.8130 said:
    S : Thief Ele Engi
    A : Necro Rev
    B : Ranger Guardian
    C : Mesmer
    D : Warrior
    in no particular order in the tiers for competitive gameplay
    @zyra.7860 said:
    Hi, this is the recent "Class tier list"-made by highest ranked PvP-players. E-specs have included to tiers.

    S tier (Meta) - Engi, Guard, Rev
    A tier (Very good)- Necro, Ele
    B tier - (Not good, not terrible) Thief, Ranger, Mesmer
    C tier (Useless tier) - Warrior

    What is this, an 1v1 tierlist? Because it has nothing to do with conquest that's for sure.

  • Zawn.9647Zawn.9647 Member ✭✭✭

    imagine ranking thief in B :relaxed:
    a class that stealths for an eternity, teleports the entire map, bursts and interrupts
    and can use a condi spec that the only thing you need to do is press 3

    seems a legit tier list LOL

  • Dave.6819Dave.6819 Member ✭✭✭
    edited September 12, 2020

    @Tharan.9085 said:

    @Dave.6819 said:

    @Tharan.9085 said:
    Imagine thinking thief is B tier, how biased are you?

    Shortbow 5 and dash carries it. Take those away and it's useless in pvp cuz it cant really be a teamfighter.

    But those skills exist so it is far from useless

    Yup. It will always stay in meta just cuz of mobility. Sometimes i just go naked and only with a shortbow and 1 traitline. It's a little annoying tho. It's like you are playing a racing game not a fighting game. I wish anet could do somethin to it so we could become teamfighters too. For now we're just sprinting all over the place capping decapping. Well not for now.. but for the past like 5 years lol.

    It's hard for those in WvW who are trying to roam and 1v1 though. Every class should have options for a 1v1 build. But in pvp yea.. just take shortbow5 and u r good to go.

    Physical Supremacy: This trait now causes Steal to become Swipe, which reduces the range from 1,200 to 600

    So who's the Thief now?
    2019.04.23 -Anet

  • Shiyo.3578Shiyo.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Dave.6819 said:

    @Tharan.9085 said:

    @Dave.6819 said:

    @Tharan.9085 said:
    Imagine thinking thief is B tier, how biased are you?

    Shortbow 5 and dash carries it. Take those away and it's useless in pvp cuz it cant really be a teamfighter.

    But those skills exist so it is far from useless

    Yup. It will always stay in meta just cuz of mobility. Sometimes i just go naked and only with a shortbow and 1 traitline. It's a little annoying tho. It's like you are playing a racing game not a fighting game. I wish anet could do somethin to it so we could become teamfighters too. For now we're just sprinting all over the place capping decapping. Well not for now.. but for the past like 5 years lol.

    It's hard for those in WvW who are trying to roam and 1v1 though. Every class should have options for a 1v1 build. But in pvp yea.. just take shortbow5 and u r good to go.

    S/D beats every class 1v1 except condi druid.

  • anduriell.6280anduriell.6280 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Warrior is fine, its a bruiser role and do its role very well. In the current meta bruisers dont have much of a role and thats why is perceived as low tier. This is the correct scale:

    S : Thief Ele Engi
    A : Necro Rev Guardian
    B : Druid Warrior
    C : Mesmer soulbeast

  • Vancho.8750Vancho.8750 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Zawn.9647 said:
    imagine ranking thief in B :relaxed:
    a class that stealths for an eternity, teleports the entire map, bursts and interrupts
    and can use a condi spec that the only thing you need to do is press 3

    seems a legit tier list LOL

    Thief is S+ tier but is countered by the fact that it requires some thinking and the majority of thief players do not have that process unlocked and its effectiveness is downgraded to F tier. Majority of the people want thief nerfed out of existence not because it is OP but because they don't a thief on their team since that is like rolling dice if their thief will be winning the game or they will 4v5 the whole game.
    Basically thief has way too much power to control the game and fully undervalues the effort of the other 4 people since you can't cover for thieves like you can cover for other specks, cause thief has really unique position that nothing else can do.

  • Shiyo.3578Shiyo.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 12, 2020

    Can people stop putting Ele in S tier? Playing support in ranked is one of the easiest ways to LOSE games and be incredibly frustrated. You will ALWAYS be dragged down by your weakest player(s) and not be able to carry them.

    Put "Tempest" not "ele", as they are not the same, and tempest is absurdly overpowered(In AT's only!) due to shock aura and glyph.

    Also, literally EVERY SINGLE tempest I fight in plat+(or play with) is earth and does less HPS than a pink moa.

    @Vancho.8750 said:

    @Zawn.9647 said:
    imagine ranking thief in B :relaxed:
    a class that stealths for an eternity, teleports the entire map, bursts and interrupts
    and can use a condi spec that the only thing you need to do is press 3

    seems a legit tier list LOL

    Thief is S+ tier but is countered by the fact that it requires some thinking and the majority of thief players do not have that process unlocked and its effectiveness is downgraded to F tier. Majority of the people want thief nerfed out of existence not because it is OP but because they don't a thief on their team since that is like rolling dice if their thief will be winning the game or they will 4v5 the whole game.
    Basically thief has way too much power to control the game and fully undervalues the effort of the other 4 people since you can't cover for thieves like you can cover for other specks, cause thief has really unique position that nothing else can do.

    Most thieves play final destination 1v1 all game long with far.

    Real tier list for RANKED based on how impactful the class/build is in solo/duo queue.

    • S: Thief, Power Rev, Eng(Scrapper or Holo), literally any Necro build including randomly picking traits with your eyes closed
    • A: Ranger, Guardian, Renegade
    • B: Warrior
    • C: Any ele build
    • Plasma dispenser: Mesmer
  • Khalisto.5780Khalisto.5780 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Bazsi.2734 said:

    @Grimjack.8130 said:
    S : Thief Ele Engi
    A : Necro Rev
    B : Ranger Guardian
    C : Mesmer
    D : Warrior
    in no particular order in the tiers for competitive gameplay
    @zyra.7860 said:
    Hi, this is the recent "Class tier list"-made by highest ranked PvP-players. E-specs have included to tiers.

    S tier (Meta) - Engi, Guard, Rev
    A tier (Very good)- Necro, Ele
    B tier - (Not good, not terrible) Thief, Ranger, Mesmer
    C tier (Useless tier) - Warrior

    What is this, an 1v1 tierlist? Because it has nothing to do with conquest that's for sure.

    How come, besides engi everything in S have limited v1 potential, like pretty sure that ele is tempest and thief inst a v1 class at all.

  • Khalisto.5780Khalisto.5780 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Shiyo.3578 said:
    Can people stop putting Ele in S tier? Playing support in ranked is one of the easiest ways to LOSE games and be incredibly frustrated. You will ALWAYS be dragged down by your weakest player(s) and not be able to carry them.

    Put "Tempest" not "ele", as they are not the same, and tempest is absurdly overpowered(In AT's only!) due to shock aura and glyph.

    Also, literally EVERY SINGLE tempest I fight in plat+(or play with) is earth and does less HPS than a pink moa.

    @Vancho.8750 said:

    @Zawn.9647 said:
    imagine ranking thief in B :relaxed:
    a class that stealths for an eternity, teleports the entire map, bursts and interrupts
    and can use a condi spec that the only thing you need to do is press 3

    seems a legit tier list LOL

    Thief is S+ tier but is countered by the fact that it requires some thinking and the majority of thief players do not have that process unlocked and its effectiveness is downgraded to F tier. Majority of the people want thief nerfed out of existence not because it is OP but because they don't a thief on their team since that is like rolling dice if their thief will be winning the game or they will 4v5 the whole game.
    Basically thief has way too much power to control the game and fully undervalues the effort of the other 4 people since you can't cover for thieves like you can cover for other specks, cause thief has really unique position that nothing else can do.

    Most thieves play final destination 1v1 all game long with far.

    Real tier list for RANKED based on how impactful the class/build is in solo/duo queue.

    • S: Thief, Power Rev, Eng(Scrapper or Holo), literally any Necro build including randomly picking traits with your eyes closed
    • A: Ranger, Guardian, Renegade
    • B: Warrior
    • C: Any ele build
    • Plasma dispenser: Mesmer

    Title doesn't say it's Ranked class tier list, just class tier list, tempest one of the best picks in organized gameplay

  • silklash.6154silklash.6154 Member ✭✭
    edited September 12, 2020

    @Khalisto.5780 said:

    @Bazsi.2734 said:

    @Grimjack.8130 said:
    S : Thief Ele Engi
    A : Necro Rev
    B : Ranger Guardian
    C : Mesmer
    D : Warrior
    in no particular order in the tiers for competitive gameplay
    @zyra.7860 said:
    Hi, this is the recent "Class tier list"-made by highest ranked PvP-players. E-specs have included to tiers.

    S tier (Meta) - Engi, Guard, Rev
    A tier (Very good)- Necro, Ele
    B tier - (Not good, not terrible) Thief, Ranger, Mesmer
    C tier (Useless tier) - Warrior

    What is this, an 1v1 tierlist? Because it has nothing to do with conquest that's for sure.

    How come, besides engi everything in S have limited v1 potential, like pretty sure that ele is tempest and thief inst a v1 class at all.

    Because they’re both irreplaceable in their roles of support and decap/roamer

  • Avatar.3568Avatar.3568 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @TrollingDemigod.3041 said:

    @zyra.7860 said:

    @Shiyo.3578 said:

    @zyra.7860 said:
    Hi, this is the recent "Class tier list"-made by highest ranked PvP-players. E-specs have included to tiers.

    S tier (Meta) - Engi, Guard, Rev
    A tier (Very good)- Necro, Ele
    B tier - (Not good, not terrible) Thief, Ranger, Mesmer
    C tier (Useless tier) - Warrior

    lol thief B tier. Guard S tier, my god, no. Tell this to any top10 player/best of the best AT team and see their reaction.

    Your opinion is not relevant. This list was made together in meeting of current 5 top players, so i guess we dont need your opinion here.

    Ho? And who are these mighty top 5 players that put Thief in B tier?

    Sweet home Alabama

  • Dahkeus.8243Dahkeus.8243 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 13, 2020

    @Grimjack.8130 said:
    S : Thief Ele Engi
    A : Necro Rev
    B : Ranger Guardian
    C : Mesmer
    D : Warrior
    in no particular order in the tiers for competitive gameplay

    This list gets it right.

    P.s. To the people who insist on off-meta builds, this does not apply beyond the current best bios being used in most cases.

  • zarcon.7820zarcon.7820 Member ✭✭
    edited September 13, 2020

    @TrollingDemigod.3041 said:

    @zyra.7860 said:

    @Shiyo.3578 said:

    @zyra.7860 said:
    Hi, this is the recent "Class tier list"-made by highest ranked PvP-players. E-specs have included to tiers.

    S tier (Meta) - Engi, Guard, Rev
    A tier (Very good)- Necro, Ele
    B tier - (Not good, not terrible) Thief, Ranger, Mesmer
    C tier (Useless tier) - Warrior

    lol thief B tier. Guard S tier, my god, no. Tell this to any top10 player/best of the best AT team and see their reaction.

    Your opinion is not relevant. This list was made together in meeting of current 5 top players, so i guess we dont need your opinion here.

    Ho? And who are these mighty top 5 players that put Thief in B tier?

    1 of them is a person who calls himself trollingdemigod. I hope I get banned so I can close this chapter once and forall

  • jsp.6912jsp.6912 Member ✭✭✭

    Guard S tier and thief B tier

    it's a tier list for bronze player ?

  • Shiyo.3578Shiyo.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I really hope these posts haven't influenced my matches. I keep getting tempests that literally don't heal a single person the entire game, never give auras to anyone, do zero damage, never CC anyone, and instantly die the second they lose respawn invul.

    Please remove ele from the S tier in all your lists.

  • Leonidrex.5649Leonidrex.5649 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Shiyo.3578 said:
    I really hope these posts haven't influenced my matches. I keep getting tempests that literally don't heal a single person the entire game, never give auras to anyone, do zero damage, never CC anyone, and instantly die the second they lose respawn invul.

    Please remove ele from the S tier in all your lists.

    this is for top players, at/plat 2+ where people at the very least know what their class is supposed to do. Tempest takes some thought process to make the most value off, its much easier to play dps build and spam damage then to have to know when to heal, who to heal, who to CC, when to CC, even something silly as throwing magnetic aura or proj block field properly take more effort then most dps builds do.

  • Shiyo.3578Shiyo.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Leonidrex.5649 said:

    @Shiyo.3578 said:
    I really hope these posts haven't influenced my matches. I keep getting tempests that literally don't heal a single person the entire game, never give auras to anyone, do zero damage, never CC anyone, and instantly die the second they lose respawn invul.

    Please remove ele from the S tier in all your lists.

    this is for top players, at/plat 2+ where people at the very least know what their class is supposed to do. Tempest takes some thought process to make the most value off, its much easier to play dps build and spam damage then to have to know when to heal, who to heal, who to CC, when to CC, even something silly as throwing magnetic aura or proj block field properly take more effort then most dps builds do.

    Yes, but some silvers/low golds are going to come in here, see tempest is S tier, go try it out, and randomly get put in my games despite being -200 to -400 rating to me(matchmaking issues) and contribute a total of zero when they could be playing something like reaper/thief/holo and contribute something since those classes require absolutely zero effort for massive reward.

  • @Shiyo.3578 said:
    Yes, but some silvers/low golds are going to come in here, see tempest is S tier, go try it out, and randomly get put in my games despite being -200 to -400 rating to me(matchmaking issues) and contribute a total of zero when they could be playing something like reaper/thief/holo and contribute something since those classes require absolutely zero effort for massive reward.

    It's not about rating. They're the same rating as you but it feels like they're lower rated simply because, as the other guy stated, support Tempest is one of the hardest-to-play meta builds. It does seem like I drop 100 rating when I try to play it. I have to play twice as hard as any other build just to feel like I'm actually helping the team.

  • Shiyo.3578Shiyo.3578 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Dave.6819 said:

    @Tharan.9085 said:
    Imagine thinking thief is B tier, how biased are you?

    Shortbow 5 and dash carries it. Take those away and it's useless in pvp cuz it cant really be a teamfighter.

    Not at all, this isn't HoT anymore where everyone has 50% passive DR/invul procs, infinite sustain, yet can still kill thieves in 2 hits. Thief actually does insane damage/pressure and is why it's so overpowered.

  • Every game come away with top offense;-- average k/d ratio 10-1. Most are more like 6,7,8,9 -- 0. Yep. Thief is dead for sure.

    What a B Tier class...