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Balance downstate skills across the board or get rid of it.

Hot Boy.7138Hot Boy.7138 Member ✭✭✭✭

Downstate is as much of the combat as when you're battling at with a full hp bar. It is absolutely ridiculous that downstates are consistently ignored in balance changes. Balance downstate, or get rid of it. Some classes downstate are ridiculously strong compared to others and it's simply not fair or fun to be on the short end of it.

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  • Arheundel.6451Arheundel.6451 Member ✭✭✭✭

    They should have nerfed the downstate of :

    1)Mesmer
    2)Thief
    3)Necro

    Which can still do pre-Feb patch levels of dmg which is freaking stupid...where are their priorities?

  • Eddbopkins.2630Eddbopkins.2630 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Quick balance fixes are not anets things. I fear all ur posts will fall on deaf ears and we wont get a proper balance for 3v3.

  • Hot Boy.7138Hot Boy.7138 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Eddbopkins.2630 said:
    Quick balance fixes are not anets things. I fear all ur posts will fall on deaf ears and we wont get a proper balance for 3v3.

    I feel the same way. But I wanted to say something anyway. it is better to say something than nothing at all.

  • Down state is useful in pve but we only need the ability to res in pvp if at all.

  • @Arheundel.6451 said:
    They should have nerfed the downstate of :

    1)Mesmer

    I'm a main condi mesmer and you're right. Sometimes I go downstate and I realize that my damage output is so much greater than when I'm alive. I wonder if we could create a strategy where the mesmer should go downstate, and then his allies try to keep him alive but still keeping him downstate, so that he could spam confusion on everybody on the battlefield.

  • @Woltarion.6829 said:

    @Arheundel.6451 said:
    They should have nerfed the downstate of :

    1)Mesmer

    I'm a main condi mesmer and you're right. Sometimes I go downstate and I realize that my damage output is so much greater than when I'm alive. I wonder if we could create a strategy where the mesmer should go downstate, and then his allies try to keep him alive but still keeping him downstate, so that he could spam confusion on everybody on the battlefield.

    Confusion? Nah that Phantasm is where it's at. That thing will yeet your health bar so quickly it's actually pretty funny.

  • i one shotted someone with that mes downed state phantasm once, dam it was so funny.

    Te lazla otstara.

  • @Leonidrex.5649 said:

    @CutesySylveon.8290 said:

    @Woltarion.6829 said:

    @Arheundel.6451 said:
    They should have nerfed the downstate of :

    1)Mesmer

    I'm a main condi mesmer and you're right. Sometimes I go downstate and I realize that my damage output is so much greater than when I'm alive. I wonder if we could create a strategy where the mesmer should go downstate, and then his allies try to keep him alive but still keeping him downstate, so that he could spam confusion on everybody on the battlefield.

    Confusion? Nah that Phantasm is where it's at. That thing will yeet your health bar so quickly it's actually pretty funny.

    3x dps traitline. berserker amulet, eagle rune.
    get downed
    you fool, you activated my trap card. YEET 16k

    I play mesmer for the downstate...I'm at my most lethal when in mortal danger...

  • Eddbopkins.2630Eddbopkins.2630 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 16, 2020

    There should be no down state in 3v3 or 2v2.....if they can do ot for wvw they most certainly can do it for pvp. Once your beat u, should be done. No second chances no revive signet. U go down that should be the end of it.

  • Terrorhuz.4695Terrorhuz.4695 Member ✭✭✭

    @CutesySylveon.8290 said:

    @Woltarion.6829 said:

    @Arheundel.6451 said:
    They should have nerfed the downstate of :

    1)Mesmer

    I'm a main condi mesmer and you're right. Sometimes I go downstate and I realize that my damage output is so much greater than when I'm alive. I wonder if we could create a strategy where the mesmer should go downstate, and then his allies try to keep him alive but still keeping him downstate, so that he could spam confusion on everybody on the battlefield.

    Confusion? Nah that Phantasm is where it's at. That thing will yeet your health bar so quickly it's actually pretty funny.

    The damage is ridicolous, but 30% of the times the enemy will dodge the attack 'cause it's so telegraphed, 30% of the times the phantasm is stunned\killed b4 attacking, 30% of the times it will stare at the enemy and do kitten nothing. They should nerf the damage big time, but make it reliable and buff a bit the autoattack

  • Kuma.1503Kuma.1503 Member ✭✭✭

    It's pretty funny to see a mesmer crit for 11k in downstate ngl.

  • Elrond.9486Elrond.9486 Member ✭✭✭

    Lmao where are all these people getting 11k-16k(!) damage on Mesmer downstate? Im full glass dps and the most I got was on another full glass light armor with 8k. Which is still crazy, but 16k?? Twice as much?

  • Leonidrex.5649Leonidrex.5649 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Elrond.9486 said:
    Lmao where are all these people getting 11k-16k(!) damage on Mesmer downstate? Im full glass dps and the most I got was on another full glass light armor with 8k. Which is still crazy, but 16k?? Twice as much?

    it boils down to the fact that I played mesmer for a while, and I remember the biggest numbers since they stick the most.
    average hits are much much lower

  • I love minion-mancer downstate. People run to get away from that mess. Minions hit hard when you're trying to hit the necro, who's also hitting hard. XD

  • KrHome.1920KrHome.1920 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 17, 2020

    Everyone who complains about downstate skill mechanics should be banned from any real balance discussion. Ridiculous.

    The downstate itself is dumb, but if you can't get the job done because of some "overpowered" downstate skill, then you are just bad. At worst just move out of range for a few seconds to back up and then come back to stomp (or in case of warrior: just stay at range).

  • Hot Boy.7138Hot Boy.7138 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @KrHome.1920 said:
    Everyone who complains about downstate skill mechanics should be banned from any real balance discussion. Ridiculous.

    The downstate itself is dumb, but if you can't get the job done because of some "overpowered" downstate skill, then you are just bad. At worst just move out of range for a few seconds to back up and then come back to stomp (or in case of warrior: just stay at range).

    In that case, why balance anything when the clear solution is to just run away and return only when you are good and ready to fight.