Raise the sell price limit on the trading post

There are items that drop in game that are worth more than 10k gold, but that is the cap on what the trading post allows. This needs to be addressed. People should not have to risk being scammed by another player or a "trusted" third party service to sell rare items that are worth more than what the current Trading Post allows.

True, I don't exactly see the reason for not doing that.

I totally agree, although I doubt I'll ever get my hands on such items ?

@Ubi.4136 said:There are items that drop in game that are worth more than 10k gold.

I don't think any item should be worth over 10k gold.

@Vavume.8065 said:

@Ubi.4136 said:There are items that drop in game that are worth more than 10k gold.

Nah, it's fine. Just nobody going to pay the TP tax for valuable items.

@Vavume.8065 said:I don't think any item should be worth over 10k gold.

I don't know the term in English but it's a free economy, stuff costs what players think it costs

Instead of increasing price caps, Anet should rather increase drop rates ...Gw2 is mostly a fashion game and that some items are hidden behind horrendous prices(+Reddit Market) is a joke.

@Tayga.3192 said:

@Vavume.8065 said:I don't think any item should be worth over 10k gold.

Capitalism

@Loosmaster.8263 said:

@Tayga.3192 said:

@Vavume.8065 said:I don't think any item should be worth over 10k gold.

No. The dynamics of free-market economics (supply and demand, Geffen goods, blah blah blah) are independent of whether the system is capitalist, mercantilist, etc.

By having the cap at 10k you add a risk for players that want to sell an item above 10k gold. Risk it, or sell it for less than 10k. A better solution: items shouldn't be "worth" more than 10k gold. Who even comes up with how much an item is "worth" anyway?

@"maddoctor.2738" said:By having the cap at 10k you add a risk for players that want to sell an item above 10k gold. Risk it, or sell it for less than 10k. A better solution: items shouldn't be "worth" more than 10k gold. Who even comes up with how much an item is "worth" anyway?

An item is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it.

@kharmin.7683 said:

@"maddoctor.2738" said:By having the cap at 10k you add a risk for players that want to sell an item above 10k gold. Risk it, or sell it for less than 10k. A better solution: items shouldn't be "worth" more than 10k gold. Who even comes up with how much an item is "worth" anyway?

That doesn't work in this case because items that are so called "worth" more than 10k cannot be posted for that price on the trading post. So how do the sellers know someone is willing to pay more than 10k for it? They just inflate the price and profit over it. All items "worth" above 10k are a scam

All you're going to end up doing is drive all the prices incrementally up. Because everyone thinks what they own is special and thus worth more, they're going to sell it for higher price. Other sellers seeing this will feel like they have to drive prices up or lose out.

Thus begins gold farming bots, gold sellers, a general disinterest in the market, and the economy being driven by a few robber barons counted on one hand. It's happened before. No thanks.

@maddoctor.2738 said:

@kharmin.7683 said:

@maddoctor.2738 said:By having the cap at 10k you add a risk for players that want to sell an item above 10k gold. Risk it, or sell it for less than 10k. A better solution: items shouldn't be "worth" more than 10k gold. Who even comes up with how much an item is "worth" anyway?

They know someone is willing to pay more than 10k for it because people post their buy offers on forums that were created to facilitate high-value trades in GW2. Just because the trading post doesn't allow buy offers higher than 10k does not mean people won't pay more than 10k.

The only thing the 10k limit does, is force people to trade without using the trading post. The Heart of the Khan-Ur is valued at 70k - 80k from what I could find out. People are buying either through these 3rd party forums or directly from goldsellers.

@BunjiKugashira.9754 said:

@maddoctor.2738 said:

@kharmin.7683 said:

@maddoctor.2738 said:By having the cap at 10k you add a risk for players that want to sell an item above 10k gold. Risk it, or sell it for less than 10k. A better solution: items shouldn't be "worth" more than 10k gold. Who even comes up with how much an item is "worth" anyway?

So it's not how much someone is willing to pay for an item, but how much particular people that know about specific forums DESIGNED for high-value trades are willing to pay for. There is a very big difference here. Also, you make it sound like there is a large volume for such transactions, if there was, then they wouldn't be valued so high, so either the number of such sales is insignificant, or the sellers themselves are inflating the prices of certain "expensive" and control the market. In both cases it's really bad for the game, so I stand by my original comment that items should never be "worth" more than 10k gold.

Edit: the problem is that certain items are "Worth" (by those that control the market) more than 10k, not that there is a cap to how much gold someone can get for an item.

@Tayga.3192 said:

@Vavume.8065 said:I don't think any item should be worth over 10k gold.

Up to the value of 10k yes, which is the cap Anet decided stuff can cost.

@"maddoctor.2738" said:By having the cap at 10k you add a risk for players that want to sell an item above 10k gold. Risk it.

This is like saying, "By having the God of Pvp title in the game you add the risk of people win trading ". The point is, there will always be reasons for people to cheat in a game, it's up to the player to have the morals not to... if you go outside the game to sell an item you are a cheat, simple.

As there are people who have more than 10k gold to spend on whatever they like I agree with this suggestion, raise the max limit on TP.

However this really affects a smaller subset of players who A: have the gold to outbid other players on luxury items and B: know that there is a way to buy/sell these luxury items outside the TP. This is not an Everyone problem, yet.

As more and more players amass wealth in excess of 10k there will be more people looking to outbid each other on luxury items outside the TP. Anet loses here on the listing fee/tax, but players also lose by not having an in game place to properly list items.

Some posters want to raise the cap, but no one has mentioned to what limit or if it should even have a limit. So, what is the proposal? Just saying "raise the cap" isn't going to be enough for Anet to implement anything.

@Tayga.3192 said:

@"Vavume.8065" said:I don't think any item should be worth over 10k gold.

That really depends. Seeing how someone on GW2effiency has 11 Chakk Egg Sacs it's quite likely that there are players that simply buy all the supply then re-list at insane prices. A simple search revealed that these chak egg sacs sell for 500$ each or upwards to 20k-30k gold, so we are talking about people who have the ability to spend money, or to "play the market" to inflate value of items. Are players willing to pay 500$ for an infusion? Who knows, but if the only available listings are at such high values, given by market manipulators, there is no other choice. In the end, it's Anet's fault for making certain items so rare/expensive to promote this side business which has nothing to do with TP fees.

@"maddoctor.2738" said:That really depends. Seeing how someone on GW2effiency has 11 Chakk Egg Sacs it's quite likely that there are players that simply buy all the supply then re-list at insane prices.

They can do this right now too, without TP fees to pull gold out of the game's economy. It's honestly a very hard job to fix mmorpg economies.

Maybe anet should make a few items "non-giftable by mail", so the only way to sell them would be vendoring (omegalul) or selling on TP.

Sure, they could increase the taxe for the item priced above 10k to 20% then increase it to 30% for the item above 50k, then 40% for the item at 100k and above... etc. And with only 50% refund if the item is removed by the player that put it on the trading post? Wouldn't it be a lovely middle point?

@Mungo Zen.9364 said:As there are people who have more than 10k gold to spend on whatever they like I agree with this suggestion, raise the max limit on TP.

However this really affects a smaller subset of players who A: have the gold to outbid other players on luxury items and B: know that there is a way to buy/sell these luxury items outside the TP. This is not an Everyone problem, yet.

As more and more players amass wealth in excess of 10k there will be more people looking to outbid each other on luxury items outside the TP. Anet loses here on the listing fee/tax, but players also lose by not having an in game place to properly list items.

There are about 20k Vial of Powerful Blood sales every day, those alone give Anet gold from TP taxes enough for a lot of high value items sold every day. Do you think there is a sale of a 10k gold+ item every day? Given their pitiful supply I'd say no. So just the Vials of Blood are way more stimulating for the game's economy than making one high value item sale every single day, and that's one item, there are other items that sell for a lot of gold. In the long run, Anet doesn't lose much on the listing fee of expensive items, since their sales volume is very small compared to the volume of other, much less expensive, item sales. And it acts as a deterrent for anyone that wants to circumvent the tp fee, or sell an item above 10k. So it's worth it

@Dadnir.5038 said:Sure, they could increase the taxe for the item priced above 10k to 20% then increase it to 30% for the item above 50k, then 40% for the item at 100k and above... etc. And with only 50% refund if the item is removed by the player that put it on the trading post? Wouldn't it be a lovely middle point?

Except no one would use TP for high priced items than. People that deal with large sums already try to avoid TP to avoid tax.

@"Naxos.2503" said:All you're going to end up doing is drive all the prices incrementally up. Because everyone thinks what they own is special and thus worth more, they're going to sell it for higher price. Other sellers seeing this will feel like they have to drive prices up or lose out.

Thus begins gold farming bots, gold sellers, a general disinterest in the market, and the economy being driven by a few robber barons counted on one hand. It's happened before. No thanks.

+10

Exactly this

-not forgetting resulting in increase of accounts-including unused accounts being stolen, hijacked and used for RMT-

(https://help.guildwars2.com/hc/en-us/articles/360011560933-Policy-Purchasing-Gold-from-Real-Money-Traders-RMT-)

Continue to enforce strict measurements against RMT(--one thing i applaud Anet for is the decrease of RMT--)

-as other suggest, increase drops and keep the cap on-