Whatever elite spec Guardian gets next, I hope it has good access to swiftness

Tired of having to run movement speed runes (lynx, trapper, etc.) Give us swiftness!

Weaver has a ton of swiftness traits...

Do you really mean a 25% movement speed trait? Cuz "Reteat!" already easily gives swiftness.

@"DeanBB.4268" said:Do you really mean a 25% movement speed trait? Cuz "Reteat!" already easily gives swiftness.

Retreat is a meme utility

You get 25% movement speed with Dragon Hunter trait Soaring Devastation. If that's not good enough for you, and won't take Retreat either, you're just complaining for the sake of complaining.

@Pockethole.5031 said:You get 25% movement speed with Dragon Hunter trait Soaring Devastation. If that's not good enough for you, and won't take Retreat either, you're just complaining for the sake of complaining.

That covers some Dragon Hunter builds. Maybe 10% to 15% of the whole spectrum of builds that a Guardian can use, counting core and specs, and exactly a 0% of what is available to both core Guardian and Firebrand. Guardiand had to deal with two weakness for ever: low base HP which forces to discard berserker and viper/griever stats in competitive modes and reduced base mobility which oftenly forces to discard the strongest runes in terms of stats in pursuit of not moving at 80% of the pace that most of other classes are capable by design. I agree with Mes since most of the time I play Guardian I run either traveller or fireworks runes due base speed is just annoying.

@mes.4607 said:

@"DeanBB.4268" said:Do you really mean a 25% movement speed trait? Cuz "Reteat!" already easily gives swiftness.

Nah retreat is pretty decent for the aegis if you're running a heal on block build.

I do anticipate the next elite would have mobility. We already have access to everything else.

the most painful thing i've ever seen in my gw2 guard career is a fb use f3 auto for swiftness..#FREE_GUARD_SWIFTNESS

@Buran.3796 said:

@"Pockethole.5031" said:You get 25% movement speed with Dragon Hunter trait Soaring Devastation. If that's not good enough for you, and won't take Retreat either, you're just complaining for the sake of complaining.

@Pockethole.5031 said:

@Buran.3796 said:

@Pockethole.5031 said:You get 25% movement speed with Dragon Hunter trait Soaring Devastation. If that's not good enough for you, and won't take Retreat either, you're just complaining for the sake of complaining.

It also only applies while F2 is not on cooldown. Which given that F2 is one of DH's key sustain tools, covering condi-cleanse, mobility and healing, means you probably won't have more than 20% uptime on the trait, since you'll want to be using F2 frequently for sustain.

That trait is in no way an answer for guardian mobility.

Retreat is also garbage. You're giving up an entire utility JUST for swiftness, and it doesn't even provide 100% uptime. No the single aegis does not compensate, not in PvP where the healing from Pure of Heart has been nerfed into irrelevance.

I want a Summoner spec with a Horn for Guardian. Could have Swiftness with a Horn skill

@MatyrGustav.6210 said:I want a Summoner spec with a Horn for Guardian. Could have Swiftness with a Horn skill

That would suck and probably not PvP viable.

@otto.5684 said:

@"MatyrGustav.6210" said:I want a Summoner spec with a Horn for Guardian. Could have Swiftness with a Horn skill

Depending on how it's added.

I envision horn being a main hand Offensive weapon that can summon Holy Javelins to send at your target, you can call the spec Paragon. For the utility skills we could get Musical Ballads / Anthems. One of the new "Virtues" could summon a holy spear from the sky that causes bleeding & prevents movement. One could summon a small angelic being for aid (a light elemental?) The third could infuse light in an area providing boons for those you stand in it.

I mean it depends on how you look at it. :)

I hope we get the opposite. Perma pulsing AoE slow and a teleport that doesn't need a target.

@Stand The Wall.6987 said:the most painful thing i've ever seen in my gw2 guard career is a fb use f3 auto for swiftness..#FREE_GUARD_SWIFTNESS

mmmm yes,... and f2 3 skill to rotate between nodes on a FB. Good ol'times. FB is ded in pvp now anyway.

@Bailios.7518 said:I hope we get the opposite. Perma pulsing AoE slow and a teleport that doesn't need a target.

I'm thinking you mean pulsing Cripple?

Also, I feel sad about Swiftness in general. What happened that Superspeed because a thing and almost made it worthless? Why not just buff Swiftness, or make a special trait for a buff to swiftness for a certain specialization.

As much as I would love this to be true, I highly doubt guard will get easy access to swiftness...The class was designed to be slow but sturdy. Not saying that this vision actually aged well though. Besides, you have swiftness on staff and RETREAT! Not to mention the DH trait. =)