Coeruleum.9164 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 When we make a combo attack, could we have it use all the fields that are up, or at the very least use one of each type of field that's up? I don't like guardians killing my reaper by putting up light fields when I don't have any conditions. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trise.2865 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 So... you'd rather they kill you faster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coeruleum.9164 Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 @Trise.2865 said:So... you'd rather they kill you faster?No, I want to use a dark field to heal myself but instead I get a light field that removes conditions when I don't have any conditions and this causes my reaper to die to world bosses like Tequatl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosmaster.8263 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 In a perfect world, your own fields should have priority... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noir.8561 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Or each of your combo field , creates a ''orb'' that when steeped on , your character emits that aura (you become a moving field) . And every 3rd attack your firends only , proc it (regadles if their attacks is Projectiles) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coeruleum.9164 Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 @Loosmaster.8263 said:In a perfect world, your own fields should have priority...Yes, a priority system could work, but I think ideally you should just be able to use every kind of field you step on. Having up ten light fields from all the guardians in a zerg might be a bit much, but at the very least, if you have five light fields, two fire fields, and a darkness field under you, you should get one light effect, one fire effect, and one darkness effect, kind of like how vulnerability maxxes out at 25 stacks but getting 25 stacks of vulnerability on a boss won't stop you from applying stacks of burning or torment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliamRationem.5172 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 I think it would be too powerful to have every field count all at once, but at the same time I don't like that you can't at least use your own fields in group play.Solution: Combo finishers always interact with your own fields, but also interact with the field that has priority under the current rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega.6801 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 I'm sure the idea of combo fields and finishers looked great on paper and it works well in organized groups. But with the zerglike gameplay we see in WvW and PvE they should just either scrap the idea or make you only combo off of fields you yourself lay down. The system of fields and finishers sounds good but doesn't work in a MMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoftFootpaws.9134 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 They definitely need to make them more useful somehow.Fields and finishes are barely even used in WvW--it used to be very common, but they were slowly supplanted by other types of organised teamplay. In PvE, they still see limited use in Fractals and raids, but that's about it.Most use of fields these days is for solo benefits, as part of your personal rotation, not for your party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dace.8019 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 @lokh.2695 said:I'm sure the idea of combo fields and finishers looked great on paper and it works well in organized groups. But with the zerglike gameplay we see in WvW and PvE they should just either scrap the idea or make you only combo off of fields you yourself lay down. The system of fields and finishers sounds good but doesn't work in a MMO.Just another casualty of the casual semi-afk zerg catering content that, oh boy, people can't get enough of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HnRkLnXqZ.1870 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 You can trigger more than one combo-field with a single blast-finisher. You need to practice a little with the aiming to find the exact overlap-border, but it is not that difficult. So technically OP is already sort-of correct. Sadly, not many people know or even use this. /shrug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliamRationem.5172 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 @HnRkLnXqZ.1870 said:You can trigger more than one combo-field with a single blast-finisher. You need to practice a little with the aiming to find the exact overlap-border, but it is not that difficult. So technically OP is already sort-of correct. Sadly, not many people know or even use this. /shrugI wasn't aware of that, but even if it's true there is usually no way you can see field overlaps (or anything else!) in group play in this game. The effects are simply blinding when you get more than a few players in a group. Boss animations, combo fields. It's all just a huge blinding ball of light in this game. Pretty dumb, but that's what we get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kichwas.7152 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 @Loosmaster.8263 said:In a perfect world, your own fields should have priority...I think that's really the only solution needed here. Of existing put down - your own fields are always at the top of the stack - most recent to last placed. Meaning you could overwrite your own on accident or on purpose - but not get accidentally messed up by a team member. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kichwas.7152 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 @Hannelore.8153 said:They definitely need to make them more useful somehow.Fields and finishes are barely even used in WvW--it used to be very common, but they were slowly supplanted by other types of organised teamplay. In PvE, they still see limited use in Fractals and raids, but that's about it.As a DPS Condition Revenant using my own combo fields is a core part of my rotation. Do it right versus fail to do it makes a heavy impact in my results.But... yes, my gameplay is basically 'do the daily 3 random whatevers, then farm fractals.'I can see why they'd be difficult in WvW where there are too many people all over the place. In PvW yes - it's often even useful if you see someone else's combo field that you don't recognize and didn't know what coming - to toss out a finisher and see what happens. In WvW, there are often so many people even my 2080 RTX GPU can fail to render the fields so... I have no idea if I'm hitting one or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teratus.2859 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 I've had annoying issues with this exact thing as well.For years I just didn't bother trying to include combo's in my builds because of how easy it is for other players to screw them up.Outside of soloing stuff I still don't really use them that much, I don't even try when there is a blob of pure chaos on screen XDCorruption Necro's have a similar issue as well since they're designed to self inflict conditions on themselves to boost their healing skill or their contidion damage by transferring them to enemies.Other players can really screw this up for you by blasting cleanses etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flog.3485 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Honestly I think people give way too much credit to combo field. Relying on combo field to survive in open world with the example of the dark field won’t actually matter since there is no direct correlation between the combo field that you proc and the stats of your armor. Please correct me if I am wrong though.The only effective fields so far that feel important to the game are the fire field to gain might (mostly in the past), the light fields to remove conditions and the dark fields to apply blind and increase the duration stealth with thieves.That said, it would be awesome if the combo fields were far more prevalent in instanced content. Other than that if they made the combo field far more prevalent everywhere, making them important towards the gear that you have for example, then you really shouldn’t be able to proc the fields from you allies imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSD.4673 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Light fields are the absolute worst - partly because Guardians are so numerous, and they can pop them with just about every weapon set, thus overriding whatever other field is down; and partly because in 99.5% of PvE, all you want is damage, and hardly anything puts enough conditions on you to rely on a random light field cleanse.In WvW, it's hardly much more useful, but comes with the joy of overriding desirable fields.Side note: only just found out projectile finishers only affect allies they pass through after hitting the field. I assumed they did a small blast to those nearby, but nope. What's the point in that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vavume.8065 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 @Loosmaster.8263 said:In a perfect world, your own fields should have priority...100% this, please rework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icetea.3204 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 @LSD.4673 said:Light fields are the absolute worst - partly because Guardians are so numerous, and they can pop them with just about every weapon set, thus overriding whatever other field is down; and partly because in 99.5% of PvE, all you want is damage, and hardly anything puts enough conditions on you to rely on a random light field cleanse.Guardians don't overwrite existing fields. The field that was put down first has priority for finishers. However, only 5 players can get the finishers and after that the next field will get prioritized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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