Apolo.5942 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Why is this an issue? I have been having more and more latency issues, A few days ago was random disconnections from the pvp lobby after a fight, 2 days ago a few random disconnections from fractals, now i can't get into tiria and the pvp lobby crashes half the time, not to mention significant and visible lag when casting skills.What is going on over there?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kichwas.7152 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 It's been insane lately...Even after restarts of my system and network.It seems to LOVE hitting me on jumping puzzles in groups like fractals. I will jump, and the screen freezes. and I come back to being dead somewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apolo.5942 Posted November 9, 2020 Author Share Posted November 9, 2020 @Kichwas.7152 said:It's been insane lately...Even after restarts of my system and network.It seems to LOVE hitting me on jumping puzzles in groups like fractals. I will jump, and the screen freezes. and I come back to being dead somewhere...My connection has nothing to do with this, i have checked pinging other US sites and i get my regular latency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kichwas.7152 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 @Apolo.5942 said:@Kichwas.7152 said:It's been insane lately...Even after restarts of my system and network.It seems to LOVE hitting me on jumping puzzles in groups like fractals. I will jump, and the screen freezes. and I come back to being dead somewhere...My connection has nothing to do with this, i have checked pinging other US sites and i get my regular latency.Yeah - that's what I was trying to note. All checks to my own connection come back as everything fine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kharmin.7683 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 You might try the Bugs forum where there already exists several other lag-related threads https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/categories/bugs%3A-game-forum-website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrilana.1396 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 @Apolo.5942 said:@Kichwas.7152 said:It's been insane lately...Even after restarts of my system and network.It seems to LOVE hitting me on jumping puzzles in groups like fractals. I will jump, and the screen freezes. and I come back to being dead somewhere...My connection has nothing to do with this, i have checked pinging other US sites and i get my regular latency.That's like checking traffic to drive to Best Buy or the Apple Store and then expecting the bus ride to Target to have no issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconRN.6219 Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 y this insane, i comand a brazilian guild at NA serve for WvW, and 70% of my squad has a lag spike(normal ping 130-160, while we join wvw, the ping goes to 600+) every time we join ebg for example, and it seen to be afecking only my guild (all of us are brazilians) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apolo.5942 Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 @Ayrilana.1396 said:@Apolo.5942 said:@Kichwas.7152 said:It's been insane lately...Even after restarts of my system and network.It seems to LOVE hitting me on jumping puzzles in groups like fractals. I will jump, and the screen freezes. and I come back to being dead somewhere...My connection has nothing to do with this, i have checked pinging other US sites and i get my regular latency.That's like checking traffic to drive to Best Buy or the Apple Store and then expecting the bus ride to Target to have no issues. Not quite, if your connection work ok with the rest of your day to day task, but one in particular, it is clear the issue lies with that one task.Im just calling it a day for today, im not playing today with this issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrilana.1396 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 @Apolo.5942 said:@Ayrilana.1396 said:@Apolo.5942 said:@Kichwas.7152 said:It's been insane lately...Even after restarts of my system and network.It seems to LOVE hitting me on jumping puzzles in groups like fractals. I will jump, and the screen freezes. and I come back to being dead somewhere...My connection has nothing to do with this, i have checked pinging other US sites and i get my regular latency.That's like checking traffic to drive to Best Buy or the Apple Store and then expecting the bus ride to Target to have no issues. Not quite, if your connection work ok with the rest of your day to day task, but one in particular, it is clear the issue lies with that one task.Im just calling it a day for today, im not playing today with this issues.A TCP connection, which the game uses, is very different from the connection you'd use to visit various websites as well as do any ICMP pings. The game requires a stable, constant connection while those day-to-day tasks you mention do not.Like the roads and streets, no single route will take you everywhere. Just because the route to X and Y are fine, this does not mean the route to Z is the same. Servers are located all across the world and the ISPs route the connection from your home to your destination. Generally the more distance you have to cover, the greater the latency. If you're in Idaho, the latency to a server in Seattle will be considerably less to a server in Florida. This is why pinging other websites doesn't really mean all that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apolo.5942 Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 @Ayrilana.1396 said:@Apolo.5942 said:@Ayrilana.1396 said:@Apolo.5942 said:@Kichwas.7152 said:It's been insane lately...Even after restarts of my system and network.It seems to LOVE hitting me on jumping puzzles in groups like fractals. I will jump, and the screen freezes. and I come back to being dead somewhere...My connection has nothing to do with this, i have checked pinging other US sites and i get my regular latency.That's like checking traffic to drive to Best Buy or the Apple Store and then expecting the bus ride to Target to have no issues. Not quite, if your connection work ok with the rest of your day to day task, but one in particular, it is clear the issue lies with that one task.Im just calling it a day for today, im not playing today with this issues.A TCP connection, which the game uses, is very different from the connection you'd use to visit various websites as well as do any ICMP pings. The game requires a stable, constant connection while those day-to-day tasks you mention do not.Like the roads and streets, no single route will take you everywhere. Just because the route to X and Y are fine, this does not mean the route to Z is the same. Servers are located all across the world and the ISPs route the connection from your home to your destination. Generally the more distance you have to cover, the greater the latency. If you're in Idaho, the latency to a server in Seattle will be considerably less to a server in Florida. This is why pinging other websites doesn't really mean all that much.You are partially correct, when i said ping i did not actually mean just ping google a be done, no it was a more thorought test.The result however its the same, my connection works as usual with several test to server sites Except GW2. My guess is they are having issues with either their ISP, or the last stretch of the connection to their network, either that or faulty equipment/software.Specially considering they have a post admitting this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrilana.1396 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 @Apolo.5942 said:@Ayrilana.1396 said:@Apolo.5942 said:@Ayrilana.1396 said:@Apolo.5942 said:@Kichwas.7152 said:It's been insane lately...Even after restarts of my system and network.It seems to LOVE hitting me on jumping puzzles in groups like fractals. I will jump, and the screen freezes. and I come back to being dead somewhere...My connection has nothing to do with this, i have checked pinging other US sites and i get my regular latency.That's like checking traffic to drive to Best Buy or the Apple Store and then expecting the bus ride to Target to have no issues. Not quite, if your connection work ok with the rest of your day to day task, but one in particular, it is clear the issue lies with that one task.Im just calling it a day for today, im not playing today with this issues.A TCP connection, which the game uses, is very different from the connection you'd use to visit various websites as well as do any ICMP pings. The game requires a stable, constant connection while those day-to-day tasks you mention do not.Like the roads and streets, no single route will take you everywhere. Just because the route to X and Y are fine, this does not mean the route to Z is the same. Servers are located all across the world and the ISPs route the connection from your home to your destination. Generally the more distance you have to cover, the greater the latency. If you're in Idaho, the latency to a server in Seattle will be considerably less to a server in Florida. This is why pinging other websites doesn't really mean all that much.You are partially correct, when i said ping i did not actually mean just ping google a be done, no it was a more thorought test.The result however its the same, my connection works as usual with several test to server sites Except GW2. And my response is till the same: your connection to one company's servers is very rarely going to be the same connection for another company's. My guess is they are having issues with either their ISP, or the last stretch of the connection to their network, either that or faulty equipment/software.Specially considering they have a post admitting this.Please link this post. If you're referring to the sticky from several months ago, or the recent update, they did not state what you claim.EDIT:I did a search for all lag related threads and it seems that this issue is relatively recent. I didn't find anything before October of last year and I think there were only two to three small threads during the last few months of last year. It wasn't until March when the pandemic hit the issue escalated beyond what it was before. So there's a possibility that they did something around October of last year that only gets worse when networks are congested. Perhaps it's something completely unrelated that you wouldn't think would be the cause such as build templates. I'm not seriously suggesting that this is the reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apolo.5942 Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 November 10, dont know what you did, but the game is now unplayable. I cant even leave the pvp lobby to tyria, and that is if it manages to connect to it past the character screen.Its 8am, this is NOT due to high network traffic.You need to provide updates and fix this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lare.5129 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 yes, lag is OK. I update my wi-fi to optical cable, buy new PC, and problem solved.hope it can help and for you too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrilana.1396 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 @Apolo.5942 said:@Ayrilana.1396 said:@Apolo.5942 said:@Ayrilana.1396 said:@Apolo.5942 said:@Ayrilana.1396 said:@Apolo.5942 said:@"Kichwas.7152" said:It's been insane lately...Even after restarts of my system and network.It seems to LOVE hitting me on jumping puzzles in groups like fractals. I will jump, and the screen freezes. and I come back to being dead somewhere...My connection has nothing to do with this, i have checked pinging other US sites and i get my regular latency.That's like checking traffic to drive to Best Buy or the Apple Store and then expecting the bus ride to Target to have no issues. Not quite, if your connection work ok with the rest of your day to day task, but one in particular, it is clear the issue lies with that one task.Im just calling it a day for today, im not playing today with this issues.A TCP connection, which the game uses, is very different from the connection you'd use to visit various websites as well as do any ICMP pings. The game requires a stable, constant connection while those day-to-day tasks you mention do not.Like the roads and streets, no single route will take you everywhere. Just because the route to X and Y are fine, this does not mean the route to Z is the same. Servers are located all across the world and the ISPs route the connection from your home to your destination. Generally the more distance you have to cover, the greater the latency. If you're in Idaho, the latency to a server in Seattle will be considerably less to a server in Florida. This is why pinging other websites doesn't really mean all that much.You are partially correct, when i said ping i did not actually mean just ping google a be done, no it was a more thorought test.The result however its the same, my connection works as usual with several test to server sites Except GW2. And my response is till the same: your connection to one company's servers is very rarely going to be the same connection for another company's. My guess is they are having issues with either their ISP, or the last stretch of the connection to their network, either that or faulty equipment/software.Specially considering they have a post admitting this.Please link this post. If you're referring to the sticky from several months ago, or the recent update, they did not state what you claim.EDIT:I did a search for all lag related threads and it seems that this issue is relatively recent. I didn't find anything before October of last year and I think there were only two to three small threads during the last few months of last year. It wasn't until March when the pandemic hit the issue escalated beyond what it was before. So there's a possibility that they did something around October of last year that only gets worse when networks are congested. Perhaps it's something completely unrelated that you wouldn't think would be the cause such as build templates. I'm not seriously suggesting that this is the reason.Stop being a fanboy, this is from 2 weeks ago.https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/111982/an-update-on-game-performance-issues#latestStop with the personal attacks. Nowhere in what you linked, just as I stated before, does Anet mention that the issue is on their end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apolo.5942 Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 @Ayrilana.1396 said:Nowhere in what you linked, just as I stated before, does Anet mention that the issue is on their end. yes they do, the fact they are working on their infrastructure implies they know its on their end.The reality is there's no single sweeping change that can fix latency issues for all players, or even most players. There are a large number of factors and situations that can >cause lag, and so members of our Engineering, Infrastructure, Design, QA, and Production teams are working with a group of affected players to help identify underlying >causes and find solutions.We’ve made a number of changes that have improved general performance, but as we mentioned in our previous update, there are a lot of factors that cause lag and our >changes haven't had the impact we were hoping for.We know the persistent issues are frustrating and we want them improved as much as you do, so we're now looking into bigger changes with broader impact on the >problem. These changes take longer to test and implement, and we appreciate your patience as we continue working on solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrilana.1396 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 @Apolo.5942 said:@Ayrilana.1396 said:Nowhere in what you linked, just as I stated before, does Anet mention that the issue is on their end. yes they do, the fact they are working on their infrastructure implies they know its on their end.The reality is there's no single sweeping change that can fix latency issues for all players, or even most players. There are a large number of factors and situations that can >cause lag, and so members of our Engineering, Infrastructure, Design, QA, and Production teams are working with a group of affected players to help identify underlying >causes and find solutions.We’ve made a number of changes that have improved general performance, but as we mentioned in our previous update, there are a lot of factors that cause lag and our >changes haven't had the impact we were hoping for.We know the persistent issues are frustrating and we want them improved as much as you do, so we're now looking into bigger changes with broader impact on the >problem. These changes take longer to test and implement, and we appreciate your patience as we continue working on solutions.No it doesn’t. Trying to do what they can on their end doesn’t mean the issue is on their end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apolo.5942 Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 @Ayrilana.1396 said:@Apolo.5942 said:@Ayrilana.1396 said:Nowhere in what you linked, just as I stated before, does Anet mention that the issue is on their end. yes they do, the fact they are working on their infrastructure implies they know its on their end.The reality is there's no single sweeping change that can fix latency issues for all players, or even most players. There are a large number of factors and situations that can >cause lag, and so members of our Engineering, Infrastructure, Design, QA, and Production teams are working with a group of affected players to help identify underlying >causes and find solutions.We’ve made a number of changes that have improved general performance, but as we mentioned in our previous update, there are a lot of factors that cause lag and our >changes haven't had the impact we were hoping for.We know the persistent issues are frustrating and we want them improved as much as you do, so we're now looking into bigger changes with broader impact on the >problem. These changes take longer to test and implement, and we appreciate your patience as we continue working on solutions.No it doesn’t. Trying to do what they can on their end doesn’t mean the issue is on their end. Yes right, because that is exactly how internet based corporations that can simply get away with implying the issue is with your isp, work. No they clearly don't do that, they instead rework their infrastructure just in case... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrilana.1396 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 @Apolo.5942 said:@Ayrilana.1396 said:@Apolo.5942 said:@Ayrilana.1396 said:Nowhere in what you linked, just as I stated before, does Anet mention that the issue is on their end. yes they do, the fact they are working on their infrastructure implies they know its on their end.The reality is there's no single sweeping change that can fix latency issues for all players, or even most players. There are a large number of factors and situations that can >cause lag, and so members of our Engineering, Infrastructure, Design, QA, and Production teams are working with a group of affected players to help identify underlying >causes and find solutions.We’ve made a number of changes that have improved general performance, but as we mentioned in our previous update, there are a lot of factors that cause lag and our >changes haven't had the impact we were hoping for.We know the persistent issues are frustrating and we want them improved as much as you do, so we're now looking into bigger changes with broader impact on the >problem. These changes take longer to test and implement, and we appreciate your patience as we continue working on solutions.No it doesn’t. Trying to do what they can on their end doesn’t mean the issue is on their end. Yes right, because that is exactly how internet based corporations that can simply get away with implying the issue is with your isp, work. No they clearly don't do that, they instead rework their infrastructure just in case...It’s best to try to resolve the issue at all angles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apolo.5942 Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 @Ayrilana.1396 said:@Apolo.5942 said:@Ayrilana.1396 said:@Apolo.5942 said:@Ayrilana.1396 said:Nowhere in what you linked, just as I stated before, does Anet mention that the issue is on their end. yes they do, the fact they are working on their infrastructure implies they know its on their end.The reality is there's no single sweeping change that can fix latency issues for all players, or even most players. There are a large number of factors and situations that can >cause lag, and so members of our Engineering, Infrastructure, Design, QA, and Production teams are working with a group of affected players to help identify underlying >causes and find solutions.We’ve made a number of changes that have improved general performance, but as we mentioned in our previous update, there are a lot of factors that cause lag and our >changes haven't had the impact we were hoping for.We know the persistent issues are frustrating and we want them improved as much as you do, so we're now looking into bigger changes with broader impact on the >problem. These changes take longer to test and implement, and we appreciate your patience as we continue working on solutions.No it doesn’t. Trying to do what they can on their end doesn’t mean the issue is on their end. Yes right, because that is exactly how internet based corporations that can simply get away with implying the issue is with your isp, work. No they clearly don't do that, they instead rework their infrastructure just in case...It’s best to try to resolve the issue at all angles. Lol, sure whatever floats your boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrilana.1396 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 @Apolo.5942 said:@Ayrilana.1396 said:@Apolo.5942 said:@Ayrilana.1396 said:@Apolo.5942 said:@Ayrilana.1396 said:Nowhere in what you linked, just as I stated before, does Anet mention that the issue is on their end. yes they do, the fact they are working on their infrastructure implies they know its on their end.The reality is there's no single sweeping change that can fix latency issues for all players, or even most players. There are a large number of factors and situations that can >cause lag, and so members of our Engineering, Infrastructure, Design, QA, and Production teams are working with a group of affected players to help identify underlying >causes and find solutions.We’ve made a number of changes that have improved general performance, but as we mentioned in our previous update, there are a lot of factors that cause lag and our >changes haven't had the impact we were hoping for.We know the persistent issues are frustrating and we want them improved as much as you do, so we're now looking into bigger changes with broader impact on the >problem. These changes take longer to test and implement, and we appreciate your patience as we continue working on solutions.No it doesn’t. Trying to do what they can on their end doesn’t mean the issue is on their end. Yes right, because that is exactly how internet based corporations that can simply get away with implying the issue is with your isp, work. No they clearly don't do that, they instead rework their infrastructure just in case...It’s best to try to resolve the issue at all angles. Lol, sure whatever floats your boat.Them trying to improve performance on their end isn’t admitting that the issue is actually on their end. Especially when the specifically stated that there are a large number of factors which can cause lag and they’re working with players to identify the underlying causes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excursion.9752 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 The lag has been bad and It is on the server end not the client. I was in vabbi the other day and would stall out for some times over 10 seconds. Then the map chat would blow up with "whoa what just happened".The one work around I have found is that in sPVP you will not have any lag lol. Me and my friends joke about how its a ploy to get people to the game mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrilana.1396 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Lag can exist between the client and server. If not all players are affected, including those who may be standing right next to you while you’re experiencing lag, it’s likely that it’s not the servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenPants.1870 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I don't know what happened today, but WvW atleast is unplayable. Absolutley unplayable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apolo.5942 Posted November 10, 2020 Author Share Posted November 10, 2020 @"Excursion.9752" said:The lag has been bad and It is on the server end not the client. I was in vabbi the other day and would stall out for some times over 10 seconds. Then the map chat would blow up with "whoa what just happened".The one work around I have found is that in sPVP you will not have any lag lol. Me and my friends joke about how its a ploy to get people to the game mode. Yeah, don't remember experiencing lang on pve, but since yesterday afternoon the game in general (even spvp) has become unplayable.Further, the client now has a hard time reaching the character selection screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi.8397 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 I have been playing this game since launch, not once have I ever felt the need to post on the forums, but this is neigh unplayable. Honestly, this needs to be #1 priority until people can actually play the game again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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