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Rant time! Sorry for the rants. I get it, it's going to be petty but perhaps it might make a deal.
Anet why do you do this? This weapon set is an achievement? But you want me to pay 3-4k gold for this achievement? Or I can farm these missions probably like I farmed drakkar and get... 1 box in like months of farming. I get the reply "Just don't do it." / "Well if you really want it then farm it". I would love to do achievements if they are realistic. I would love to farm it if it was actually farmable with higher than .000001% drops. Aka drakkar again I spent who knows how many metas with only one box. dragonfall who knows how many attempts and got my 1 box after 1000 chests opening, heeey that was automatic, still waiting for a drop to come out from just rng itself. Now not only that but now you put an achievement for it behind it. /sadfaced.

AGAIN, like the scion weapons in dragonfall . THESE LOOK GOOD. Something worth farmable, but again rng or insane pricing does it again. Anyway, rant over. I get the stupid replies that are coming, but perhaps you will have multiple avenues like you did with the runic gear (THIS WAS DONE BRILLIANTLY! -- insane price? Okay no problem for the rich. Insane farm? I can get it with farming week to week. GOOD POINT. I can get it from rng from the bosses? oh nice. And triple win for all players. THIS WAS AMAZING - not this kitten i'm rich? Fine I just buy. I'm not rich? Then rng will just give me the middle finger.)

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  • Zaxares.5419Zaxares.5419 Member ✭✭✭

    The best solution is simply to put in the option to buy the Volcanic boxes for a combination of gold + currencies from the new vendors. It would also give more value to Tyrian Seals/faction tokens so there remains incentive for players to keep doing DRMs into the future; as they are now, the combination of the poor loot drops from missions + the grinding needed to earn Prismaticite Crystals means that it's going to become one of those things where players get burned out doing them for collections and then never touch them again once they're complete.

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 20, 2020

    @Kameko.8314 said:
    Anet why do you do this? This weapon set is an achievement? But you want me to pay 3-4k gold for this achievement?

    this is not most expensive achievement. 4k is a good valid price. Some people need to spend gold and see fun in this.

    Or I can farm these missions probably like I farmed drakkar and get... 1 box in like months of farming.

    yes, you can. Also you can do any other content, where getting gold, and then buy it on TP. Also you can not open this collection. Collections not should be always cheap.

    I would love to do achievements if they are realistic. I would love to farm it if it was actually farmable with higher than .000001% drops. Aka drakkar

    this is absolutely not aka drakkar. It is not account bound!

    Insane farm?

    you don't need farm to close collection. More fast and easy: buy gems, convert to gold, buy weapons on TP. Fast and easy.

    want solid balance ? - play chess.

  • Kameko.8314Kameko.8314 Member ✭✭✭

    @lare.5129 said:

    @Kameko.8314 said:
    Anet why do you do this? This weapon set is an achievement? But you want me to pay 3-4k gold for this achievement?

    this is not most expensive achievement. 4k is a good valid price. Some people need to spend gold and see fun in this.

    4k gold is a valid price? Ummmm, okay I guess you're in the rich part. Considering that is 2x the amount of legendaries. Not to mention I see people on daily basis trying to scrap 100g. Which is half of one of these items. I don't mind playing the game that's what I did to farm out runic set. I enjoyed the strikes. But to say oh go have fun in farming 4k gold for a set of weapons, ummm that's far different.

    Or I can farm these missions probably like I farmed drakkar and get... 1 box in like months of farming.

    yes, you can. Also you can do any other content, where getting gold, and then buy it on TP. Also you can not open this collection. Collections not should be always cheap.

    --Collections should not be at the hands of price manipulations imo. I had fun doing beetles / skyscale / griffon and what have you. Sure they were tedious but that was a sense of step by step progression.

    I would love to do achievements if they are realistic. I would love to farm it if it was actually farmable with higher than .000001% drops. Aka drakkar

    this is absolutely not aka drakkar. It is not account bound!

    It is like drakkar and any other last episode handout. There is a 'meta' this time just instanced. With rare loot boxes at the end. This one so happens to have the choice of tp -- Sure. But they are not breaking new barriers for collections as they should try to do once in a while. This one "Oh, maybe we should just throw this up there on tp, put some AP on it and then throw a Mastery Point as well. Again all at the hands of price manipulation and RNGness.

    Insane farm?

    you don't need farm to close collection. More fast and easy: buy gems, convert to gold, buy weapons on TP. Fast and easy.

    Imagine paying $200 for a weapon set LMFAO

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 20, 2020

    @Kameko.8314 said:
    --Collections should not be at the hands of price manipulations imo.

    So, don't want buy on TP ? ok. Do that content time to time 1-10 years, and you will get it. Chill and fun? Need long term content - get it.

    Sure they were tedious but that was a sense of step by step progression.

    this collection don't block any main progression. Except 15ap and skins, and mastery, wiht we have more that needed.. Everyone can skip it if not like. 250000 kills on wvw and 10k rank also for someone looks not ideal.

    you don't need farm to close collection. More fast and easy: buy gems, convert to gold, buy weapons on TP. Fast and easy.

    Imagine paying $200 for a weapon set LMFAO

    why not? normal valid sum, or you suggest 50 cents?

    want solid balance ? - play chess.

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭

    will be fun if anet have plan make available max Mastery count same as possible learn count.
    It will be make more attractive and fun this collection!

    want solid balance ? - play chess.

  • Friday.7864Friday.7864 Member ✭✭✭

    More content I'll ignore.
    Spending your time playing the game should feel rewarding and worth your time - Anet going the opposite way with some of their achievements and collections.

  • lokh.2695lokh.2695 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Kameko.8314 said:
    "Just don't do it." / "Well if you really want it then farm it".

    It basically boils down to this.
    Would I appreciate if they stopped adding this kind of achievement? Sure. Will it happen? Probably not, because it's a cheap to develop way to generate hours played and gem-to-gold traffic. The first looks good in a presentation for your shareholders and the second might even generate income.

    Why bother, just delete the official Forum.

  • hugo.4705hugo.4705 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @lokh.2695 said:

    @Kameko.8314 said:
    "Just don't do it." / "Well if you really want it then farm it".

    It basically boils down to this.
    Would I appreciate if they stopped adding this kind of achievement? Sure. Will it happen? Probably not, because it's a cheap to develop way to generate hours played and gem-to-gold traffic. The first looks good in a presentation for your shareholders and the second might even generate income.

    But why so, does their gemstore stuff, outfits/packages/mount skins/utilities don't generate enough income?

    It went worst lately. Back in 2012, all sets where pretty easy to obtain: either loot or exchanging easily farmable tokens for dungeons sets. Even cultural sets, it's not unreachable gold amounts.
    Really, can't they just, add all the weapons to a vendor asking 30g for one as example? Still a need of gold, and eventually buying gems if you need a lot of them... and it's more accessible than 0.0000001 rng. I don't mind buying them, but not in a way of giving money to already big tp whales...

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  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @lare.5129 said:

    @Kameko.8314 said:
    --Collections should not be at the hands of price manipulations imo.

    So, don't want buy on TP ? ok. Do that content time to time 1-10 years, and you will get it. Chill and fun? Need long term content - get it.

    Sure they were tedious but that was a sense of step by step progression.

    this collection don't block any main progression. Except 15ap and skins, and mastery, wiht we have more that needed.. Everyone can skip it if not like. 250000 kills on wvw and 10k rank also for someone looks not ideal.

    you don't need farm to close collection. More fast and easy: buy gems, convert to gold, buy weapons on TP. Fast and easy.

    Imagine paying $200 for a weapon set LMFAO

    why not? normal valid sum, or you suggest 50 cents?

    Incorrect a player can do the content for 10 years and not get all the weapons since they are rng drop.

    Even worse they can get the same weapon again and again.

  • Gave up all hope. I have wanted a 2nd gift of aurene since that map became live. Farmed the hell out of dragonfall and i only have my 1 Wep. Is this any different?

    Anet needs to think this stuff through before releasing content. This is common sense stuff.

  • As an addendum to my previous comment, i agree the runic set was well done.
    This type of over the top no hope in hades RNG only acquisition ALSO linked to a collection drives players away.
    Is there a single soul that has more than one scion weapon? Is there anyone who has 3? Because i would be impressed and offer to take them on an trip to the casino...

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Linken.6345 said:
    Incorrect a player can do the content for 10 years and not get all the weapons since they are rng drop.
    Even worse they can get the same weapon again and again.

    Incorrect. The drop is BOX. In this box you can take ANY weapon

    want solid balance ? - play chess.

  • Infusion.7149Infusion.7149 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 21, 2020

    Three things:
    1) there should have been a pity timer added if not already (see Scion weapons from Dragonfall) ,
    2) they should have been ascended similar to Drakkar drops if exclusively RNG-based. Else, a recipe similar to Charged Stormcaller weapons would be a better idea (replace Charged Lodestone with Destroyer or Molten Lodestone for a Volcanic Core).
    3) there should have been a way to get it for crystal bloom support marks or the tyria defense seals (see strike mission currencies)

    There probably shouldn't be mastery points awarded for completing the collection but I am almost certain there will be an excess of mastery points available.

    @Randulf.7614 said:
    I agree that the Runic set was a superior way of doing things.

    Do you mean Runic armor?

    @lare.5129 said:
    Incorrect. The drop is BOX. In this box you can take ANY weapon

    How many boxes have dropped for you personally? Or are you relying on speculation without data?

    Besides if you're still farming for them in 10 years you'd be doing it wrong, unlike Tequatl weapons these aren't accountbound.

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 21, 2020

    @Infusion.7149 said:
    There probably shouldn't be mastery points awarded for completing the collection but I am almost certain there will be an excess of mastery points available.

    remove mastery ? no, it kill all hype. Aslo will be nice have same number max awalaible mastery with max source.

    How many boxes have dropped for you personally? Or are you relying on speculation without data?

    me ? 0. I will buy it after 2-5 years.

    Besides if you're still farming for them in 10 years you'd be doing it wrong, unlike Tequatl weapons these aren't accountbound.

    so? box is not acc bound. So you farm it only if like it. And don't farm if don,t want. Need? welcome on TP. Very logical for me.

    want solid balance ? - play chess.

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 21, 2020

    @lare.5129 said:

    @Linken.6345 said:
    Incorrect a player can do the content for 10 years and not get all the weapons since they are rng drop.
    Even worse they can get the same weapon again and again.

    Incorrect. The drop is BOX. In this box you can take ANY weapon

    Nice good to know still dont counter that a player could do it for 10 years without getting 16 boxes so never completing collection if unlucky.
    Edit
    And I think you might be misstake with your they will be 10 gold in 2 years since less people will play the content the weapon boxes should stay higher then that due to low drop rate.

    @Infusion.7149 said:
    Three things:
    1) there should have been a pity timer added if not already (see Scion weapons from Dragonfall) ,
    2) they should have been ascended similar to Drakkar drops if exclusively RNG-based. Else, a recipe similar to Charged Stormcaller weapons would be a better idea (replace Charged Lodestone with Destroyer or Molten Lodestone for a Volcanic Core).
    3) there should have been a way to get it for crystal bloom support marks or the tyria defense seals (see strike mission currencies)

    There probably shouldn't be mastery points awarded for completing the collection but I am almost certain there will be an excess of mastery points available.

    @Randulf.7614 said:
    I agree that the Runic set was a superior way of doing things.

    Do you mean Runic armor?

    @lare.5129 said:
    Incorrect. The drop is BOX. In this box you can take ANY weapon

    How many boxes have dropped for you personally? Or are you relying on speculation without data?

    Besides if you're still farming for them in 10 years you'd be doing it wrong, unlike Tequatl weapons these aren't accountbound.

    Aint that pitty timer only for the first drop tho after that your rng for the other 15?