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Justine.6351Justine.6351 Member ✭✭✭✭

lol sometimes downed state is just amazing...

Anet buff me :-(
Make me good at game!

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  • saerni.2584saerni.2584 Member ✭✭✭✭

    That poor Bronze Legend...should have been more careful.

    It's always shocking to see the variance. Some downs do nothing. Others are practically the second stage of the fight :pensive:

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    Deadeye (Thief)
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  • knite.1542knite.1542 Member ✭✭✭

    Yeah I hate that garbage. Thief should have longbowed the clones and played it safe. Crazy how busted some downstates are compared to others.
    (looking at you underwater pet rez)

    If your team wins it's because of everyone else. If your team loses, blame the thief.
    ranger is OP but holo is more OP so its fine
    Why do this matter at all, you have people asking you why play so bad as fractal god?
    If they would pull that kitten on me, i would sue instantly. And i have enough time and money to finish that.
    Balance? More like a bunch of random nerfs done by interns.
    They're far from useless...you just got used to busted levels of dmg...welcome back to planet earth
    The first time someone sees you, they're already thinking about kicking you out of the party..........

  • Justine.6351Justine.6351 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @saerni.2584 said:
    That poor Bronze Legend...should have been more careful.

    It's always shocking to see the variance. Some downs do nothing. Others are practically the second stage of the fight :pensive:

    Well to be fair, he did try port stomping, then tried stealth stomping :/

    Anet buff me :-(
    Make me good at game!

  • Gwaihir.1745Gwaihir.1745 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Downstate should go. You lost the fight, spawn and get back to it. Also removes enemies bleeding you out.

    Shield of Wrath: Reduced the cooldown of this skill from 36 seconds to 35 seconds.

    Quality balance changes^TM

  • saerni.2584saerni.2584 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Justine.6351 said:

    @saerni.2584 said:
    That poor Bronze Legend...should have been more careful.

    It's always shocking to see the variance. Some downs do nothing. Others are practically the second stage of the fight :pensive:

    Well to be fair, he did try port stomping, then tried stealth stomping :/

    Teleport stomping would not be my first, or second or third, choice vs Mesmer. Honestly, even stealth stomp can get a little messy because most of the time the stealth lasts just a moment later than the stomp even if the teleport didn't move the mes out of range. These days, cleave and taking out clones is what I focus on.

    But yeah that thief sure was glassy. That hit took out 40%+ instantly.

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    Deadeye (Thief)
    Commandant of P/D and Apex Predator

  • LetoII.3782LetoII.3782 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @knite.1542 said:
    Yeah I hate that garbage. Thief should have longbowed the clones and played it safe. Crazy how busted some downstates are compared to others.
    (looking at you underwater pet rez)

    Nobody else gets to complain about OP downstates while Guardian still has that sad little puff and nothing else.

    [HUNT] the predatory instinct

  • Jaruselka.5943Jaruselka.5943 Member ✭✭✭

    @LetoII.3782 said:

    @knite.1542 said:
    Yeah I hate that garbage. Thief should have longbowed the clones and played it safe. Crazy how busted some downstates are compared to others.
    (looking at you underwater pet rez)

    Nobody else gets to complain about OP downstates while Guardian still has that sad little puff and nothing else.

    Try playing an engineer..

    WORST.
    DOWNSTATE.
    SKILLS.
    EVER.

  • Justine.6351Justine.6351 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Jaruselka.5943 said:

    @LetoII.3782 said:

    @knite.1542 said:
    Yeah I hate that garbage. Thief should have longbowed the clones and played it safe. Crazy how busted some downstates are compared to others.
    (looking at you underwater pet rez)

    Nobody else gets to complain about OP downstates while Guardian still has that sad little puff and nothing else.

    Try playing an engineer..

    WORST.
    DOWNSTATE.
    SKILLS.
    EVER.

    Yeah idk guardian contribute to a revive with the no target required aoe knockback and if downed long enough to pop the symbol for a little more help.

    But yeah they are not ever going to self rally I would imagine.

    Warrior and Engi are pretty pathetic.

    Anet buff me :-(
    Make me good at game!

  • DeceiverX.8361DeceiverX.8361 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Idk there's like no reason for a mesmer to even be able to summon the assassin given how long the initial cooldown period is. It takes longer than the initial spike by a fair bit.

    You sure that Sniper idea is as good as you thought it was gonna be?
    Because I think my original idea is better.

  • RisenHowl.2419RisenHowl.2419 Member ✭✭✭✭

    i think i forgot what the ingame music sounds like?

  • saerni.2584saerni.2584 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @RisenHowl.2419 said:
    i think i forgot what the ingame music sounds like?

    Ikr....I turned it on a few months back. Much nostalgia.

    Northern Shiverpeaks (NSP)
    Deadeye (Thief)
    Commandant of P/D and Apex Predator

  • Dawdler.8521Dawdler.8521 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Gwaihir.1745 said:
    Downstate should go. You lost the fight, spawn and get back to it. Also removes enemies bleeding you out.

    But you didnt loose the fight yet.

    Its the same as saying "the enemy is below 30% hp thats it I won.". Have you won?

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  • Caedmon.6798Caedmon.6798 Member ✭✭✭✭

    That reveal messed him up pretty bad,but he should have known aswell and stay at range kiting you out avoiding that npc and your clones when you went down.

  • Lan Deathrider.5910Lan Deathrider.5910 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Justine.6351 said:

    @Jaruselka.5943 said:

    @LetoII.3782 said:

    @knite.1542 said:
    Yeah I hate that garbage. Thief should have longbowed the clones and played it safe. Crazy how busted some downstates are compared to others.
    (looking at you underwater pet rez)

    Nobody else gets to complain about OP downstates while Guardian still has that sad little puff and nothing else.

    Try playing an engineer..

    WORST.
    DOWNSTATE.
    SKILLS.
    EVER.

    Yeah idk guardian contribute to a revive with the no target required aoe knockback and if downed long enough to pop the symbol for a little more help.

    But yeah they are not ever going to self rally I would imagine.

    Warrior and Engi are pretty pathetic.

    Unless you let that warrior use Vengeance... I've stomped my fair share of people while using that skill. About 75% of the time I type /sleep afterwards :lol:

  • Justine.6351Justine.6351 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Lan Deathrider.5910 said:

    @Justine.6351 said:

    @Jaruselka.5943 said:

    @LetoII.3782 said:

    @knite.1542 said:
    Yeah I hate that garbage. Thief should have longbowed the clones and played it safe. Crazy how busted some downstates are compared to others.
    (looking at you underwater pet rez)

    Nobody else gets to complain about OP downstates while Guardian still has that sad little puff and nothing else.

    Try playing an engineer..

    WORST.
    DOWNSTATE.
    SKILLS.
    EVER.

    Yeah idk guardian contribute to a revive with the no target required aoe knockback and if downed long enough to pop the symbol for a little more help.

    But yeah they are not ever going to self rally I would imagine.

    Warrior and Engi are pretty pathetic.

    Unless you let that warrior use Vengeance... I've stomped my fair share of people while using that skill. About 75% of the time I type /sleep afterwards :lol:

    Don't tell anyone but I've been stomped by a vengeanced warrior and even had them rally off of it, feels amazing :s
    Have to projectile block, blind or interrupt that hammer throw ;)

    Anet buff me :-(
    Make me good at game!

  • ArchonWing.9480ArchonWing.9480 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Thief got outplayed

    10/10 would watch again.

  • Fat Disgrace.4275Fat Disgrace.4275 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Jaruselka.5943 said:

    @LetoII.3782 said:

    @knite.1542 said:
    Yeah I hate that garbage. Thief should have longbowed the clones and played it safe. Crazy how busted some downstates are compared to others.
    (looking at you underwater pet rez)

    Nobody else gets to complain about OP downstates while Guardian still has that sad little puff and nothing else.

    Try playing an engineer..

    WORST.
    DOWNSTATE.
    SKILLS.
    EVER.

    Dunno, 1 cc and another aoe knock back.

  • Gwaihir.1745Gwaihir.1745 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Dawdler.8521 said:

    @Gwaihir.1745 said:
    Downstate should go. You lost the fight, spawn and get back to it. Also removes enemies bleeding you out.

    But you didnt loose the fight yet.

    Its the same as saying "the enemy is below 30% hp thats it I won.". Have you won?

    Pretty sure you lost when you hit downstate in any scenario where your buddy isnt carrying you in a 2v1. Whos going to win? The guy who can spike you or your piddly downstate dps? You're just dragging it out hoping someone will pick you up.

    Shield of Wrath: Reduced the cooldown of this skill from 36 seconds to 35 seconds.

    Quality balance changes^TM

  • Cyninja.2954Cyninja.2954 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Gwaihir.1745 said:

    @Dawdler.8521 said:

    @Gwaihir.1745 said:
    Downstate should go. You lost the fight, spawn and get back to it. Also removes enemies bleeding you out.

    But you didnt loose the fight yet.

    Its the same as saying "the enemy is below 30% hp thats it I won.". Have you won?

    Pretty sure you lost when you hit downstate in any scenario where your buddy isnt carrying you in a 2v1. Whos going to win? The guy who can spike you or your piddly downstate dps? You're just dragging it out hoping someone will pick you up.

    The fact that there are situations where you can recover from a downstate disprove your point or claim. So I see no way of how one can argue the fight was over.

    The fact that going downstate is a near defeat does not mean it is a guaranteed defeat. As such Dawdler is right, TC had not lost yet. He was in a very desperate situation yes, but the fight isn't over until you see those wxp numbers tick. In this case, with some luck and situational awareness, and a ton of mistakes on his opponents part, who was probably employing the same assumption of "I have this in the bag", TC came out victorious.