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simple pdps for raid?

any idea which one soulbeast/holosmith/chrono has more simple rotation? easy to learn and do good dps in raid. already have dd, but want to try another pdps thats easy to learn and do tons dmg

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  • Infusion.7149Infusion.7149 Member ✭✭✭✭

    If your group isn't hardcore I would say soulbeast is more forgiving especially playing with skirmishing that gives self fury. Utilities are generally sparse (Frost Trap, Sic em!, signet of the wild, Frost Spirit, etc).

    Holo is more about heat management and if you overheat you will have a bad day because sword and bomb kit does DPS worse than merged soulbeast autoing on greatsword.

    Chrono is least forgiving. Shatter damage scales with clones, danger time relies on slow, Seize the Moment drops personal damage in exchange for some quickness. Don't let 40k benchmarks fool you because those rely on slow uptime for Danger Time.

  • Noah Salazar.5430Noah Salazar.5430 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 8, 2021

    rifle holo 33-35k dps
    no need look on heat managment
    instef of granades your using turret

    your rotation is prty easy, bomb spam 1, holo mode 3,4 + 1 spam, rifle 3+5 then back bomb

    once you learn it you can replace turret with granades and add it to rotation so your gona do 37-38k dps insted
    medium armor medium hp so your bit tanky, also you have aed that save you from death most of time

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Why not power warrior?

  • @Linken.6345 said:
    Why not power warrior?

    is power warrior easy? all i see is bannerslave in raid, so wasn't sure its desired compare to other pdps

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @weaponwh.9810 said:

    @Linken.6345 said:
    Why not power warrior?

    is power warrior easy? all i see is bannerslave in raid, so wasn't sure its desired compare to other pdps

    You can check rotation here mate and judge for yourself.
    https://snowcrows.com/raids/builds/warrior/berserker/power/

  • Infusion.7149Infusion.7149 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 8, 2021

    @weaponwh.9810 said:

    @Linken.6345 said:
    Why not power warrior?

    is power warrior easy? all i see is bannerslave in raid, so wasn't sure its desired compare to other pdps

    It's worth noting the bar for not being yelled at is lower if you have profession specific boons. If your role is "DPS" you will not be spared that leniency.
    Power BS is relevant more so than power soulbeast or power holo. Power chrono is a special case in that only the StM variant is considered a support.

    In that sense semi-afk players (i.e. auto-ing) can achieve higher damage on soulbeast than holo because you'd only get ~15K DPS outside of Photon Forge on holo (~22K in PF assuming only vulnerability) , while dagger on soulbeast does ~16K (sword = 17K, greatsword = 18k) , warrior axe is just under 15K. Where holo excels is cleave off of Photon Forge, grenades, and bomb kit.

  • @Noah Salazar.5430 said:
    rifle holo 33-35k dps
    no need look on heat managment
    instef of granades your using turret

    your rotation is prty easy, bomb spam 1, holo mode 3,4 + 1 spam, rifle 3+5 then back bomb

    once you learn it you can replace turret with granades and add it to rotation so your gona do 37-38k dps insted
    medium armor medium hp so your bit tanky, also you have aed that save you from death most of time

    could you explain more about using which turret to sub grenade? i'm complete new at holosmith.

  • Noah Salazar.5430Noah Salazar.5430 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 8, 2021

    @weaponwh.9810

    but insted of granades your taking rifle turret, so you have less confusment

  • Armen.1483Armen.1483 Member ✭✭✭

    @Infusion.7149 said:

    @weaponwh.9810 said:

    @Linken.6345 said:
    Why not power warrior?

    is power warrior easy? all i see is bannerslave in raid, so wasn't sure its desired compare to other pdps

    It's worth noting the bar for not being yelled at is lower if you have profession specific boons. If your role is "DPS" you will not be spared that leniency.
    Power BS is relevant more so than power soulbeast or power holo. Power chrono is a special case in that only the StM variant is considered a support.

    In that sense semi-afk players (i.e. auto-ing) can achieve higher damage on soulbeast than holo because you'd only get ~15K DPS outside of Photon Forge on holo (~22K in PF assuming only vulnerability) , while dagger on soulbeast does ~16K (sword = 17K, greatsword = 18k) , warrior axe is just under 15K. Where holo excels is cleave off of Photon Forge, grenades, and bomb kit.

    Technically berserker rota is so easy that it is is same as an autoattack on soulbeast. I will also note here that one day or another they will want to do more than aa and Soulbeast has some long cast times that can be difficult to handle in unexperienced hands. If I were a new player I'd rather want to learn chrono opening or handle the holo heat than deal with those long casttimes. But if the idea is to just aa, class doesn't matter anyway as you do nothing else, just stick on dd it does best on aa.