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Dragon Came To Me In A Dream And He Is Not The Enemy...

Stephen.6312Stephen.6312 Member ✭✭✭

Just a thought: Everything that takes place after the Commander gets shot with a flaming arrow (representing Primordus) is part of an elaborate dream sequence through which Jormag subtlely converts the Commander to their side. When the Commander awakens, Aurene even acknowledges that the Commander has been having "fitful dreams".

There's a bigger possible message here, though. Aurene talks about Jormag's "vague warnings" that aren't specific enough to reveal anything. Moreover, the episodes, especially during the DRMs, involve language and events that keep reminding me of water. At Rata Sum, destroyers come out of the water. NPCs fight a destroyer with an especially hard shell and must find a way to penetrate it's armour. They also describe destroyers as "flooding in". There are other instances too, but I'm on my phone and this is a mission so I'll skip an exhaustive list of examples.

So, why is Jormag doing this? Well, it's fair to say that Primordus is acting as a proxy for...you guessed it: the Deep Sea Dragon. But why doesn't Jormag just plainly tell Aurene and the Commander about the DSD, or say it's name?

Here's the idea: For some reason, discussing these things plainly is too dangerous for the ears of mortals, even Aurene, to hear. To reveal the DSD's malevolence, Jormag must be subtle so as to prevent further destabilising the Elder Draconic Cycle.

Want to delve into some theories about the lore and story of GW2? Check these posts out: The Search For Answers P1 and The Search For Answers P2.


  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭

    From Game of Thrones to Dallas, the inspirations for GW2 are wide...

    What sleep is here? What dreams there are in the unctuous coiling of the snakes mortal shuffling. weapon in my hand. My hand the arcing deathblow at the end of all things. The horror. The horror. I embrace it. . .

  • The Greyhawk.9107The Greyhawk.9107 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 22, 2021

    @Randulf.7614 said:
    From Game of Thrones to Dallas, the inspirations for GW2 are wide...

    Throw in some Lovecraft in there, cause it certainly sounds like Stephen is describing Cthulhu instead of a dragon.
    Gunna have to press F to doubt.

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  • Hypnowulf.7403Hypnowulf.7403 Member ✭✭✭

    You're not the only one to have noticed it—my partner and I have thought it odd, too. A lot of the weaponry leveraged against Primordus is water-based too. So to say that you're completely off-track would be to ignore some obvious evidence to the contrary. There is something going on, there. I don't know what it is because I don't have enough evidence to say, though this is an interesting theory.

    There has been many of references—visual and otherwise—to water lately so I'm of the opinion that something is going on beyond what we see. It could just be playful on teh writer's part to hint at the upcoming content, as it might've been when Bangar namedropped Cantha. It's difficult to know though as this entire storyline has been shrouded in strangeness and intrigue.

    An interesting theory, nonetheless.

  • Fenom.9457Fenom.9457 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I really, really doubt they’ll say a whole list of releases was all a dream sequence. However we can be fairly confident that something in the saga will somehow lead us to the sea dragon, since it’s very likely that will be the antagonist of the cantha expansion

    I'd rather keep going.. wherever the wind takes us

  • TeeracK.3601TeeracK.3601 Member ✭✭
    edited January 23, 2021

    interesting. Another way to look at this information as well though could be that primordus or the people of Cantha killed the DSD and ate his magic and its why he has such a big edge over jormag now when they started as twins.

  • Konig Des Todes.2086Konig Des Todes.2086 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 22, 2021

    The Elder Dragons don't work with each other. They're not allies nor servants to one another, and this even goes for the DSD who is just as malicious as the other five are/were. Primordus isn't serving the DSD.

    I also don't think ANet is willing to do such an asspull move as "everything you've done for the past year has been a dream".

    All these squares make a circle.
    All these squares make a circle.
    All these squares make a circle.

  • Westenev.5289Westenev.5289 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 23, 2021

    While a Cthulhu style story would be cool, and would definitely redeem the moronic dragons we call elders, I don't think there's anything to read into here. It's just a common power struggle between two rival powers.

    Remember when the elder dragons used to be scary, and had morals and goals that mere mortals couldn't understand? A plot driven by the backs of people, and not divine feats like meddling in the affairs of gods?