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Mursaat are the "Exalted" asura

Kovac.4372Kovac.4372 Member ✭✭✭

I was watching some lore videos on the asura, and how they were living in proximity to the Mursaat, architecture similar, magics similar ... so then I thought, well if the exalted were humans that sort of transformed due to the ED threat ... why not the asura transforming into the Mursaat in the previous cycle?

And considering how long ago it was, it's realistic to expect this connection to be lost. Especially in the records of the dwarves, if we imagine a scenario where only the asura elite became Mursaat and then interacted with the other races, while the other asura remaining hidden.

The asura are not exactly an egalitarian society ... it is not unimaginable that only the most privileged could be transformed while others were left to fend for themselves.

It also ties in nicely with asuran supremacist tendencies ... when the Mursaat appeared in Kryta it could've been an advanced force, a vanguard, preparing the asuran rise to the surface and eventual conquest ... but those plans were messed up with dragons waking again. Tough luck.

I mean, we can extrapolate lots of ideas, but I think the main can work ... the asura were there in the past cycle and they made the Mursaat to fight the dragons, just like Exalted were made ...

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  • The Greyhawk.9107The Greyhawk.9107 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Ok, provide evidence. Got too many people throwing out extreme theories on this Subforum without providing good reasoning as to why such could be accurate or at least potentially believable to anyone else. So please provide some here.

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  • Yasai.3549Yasai.3549 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Yur already wrong off the bat since Mursaats are not "transformed" beings like Exalted are.
    Mursaats exist as an ancient race, with distinct physical features which are totally different from an Asurans.

    And what's this about similar magic?
    Mursaats have a unique signature magic called Spectral Agony which no one in the game can produce, and the only instance a player can "use" this is by using Counter Magic when a Jade Construct channels yu with it. (And if yu do not use Counter Magic, yu will be crippled and yur entire healthbar disappears in seconds)

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  • Eekasqueak.7850Eekasqueak.7850 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Pretty sure an Asura who ends up with their soul in a golem would be more like the exalted and there's examples of that. If pretty rare ones.

  • Konig Des Todes.2086Konig Des Todes.2086 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Eekasqueak.7850 said:
    Pretty sure an Asura who ends up with their soul in a golem would be more like the exalted and there's examples of that. If pretty rare ones.

    Prime example: Blish.

    Also: Oola.

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  • TeeracK.3601TeeracK.3601 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 8, 2021

    The whole mursatt rata sum acronym thing turned out to be for nothing, because the dev's did a soft retcon of the buildings in gw1 and have outright said in gw2 the buildings in rata sum were asura buildings. It was the community that speculated those buildings were mursatt ruins the asura moved into when they came to the surface and nothing more.

    There is a location in mount malesttrom Rata Pten that looks like the ancient guild wars 1 rata sum. You can talk to a priory researcher who are trying to make sense of the ruins and say that some of it its writing even reminds them of dwarfs. I think the implication youre meant to infer from it is that the asura lived on the surface at some point in the past before they returned to the surface in gw1.

  • Konig Des Todes.2086Konig Des Todes.2086 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @TeeracK.3601 said:
    The whole mursatt rata sum acronym thing turned out to be for nothing, because the dev's did a soft retcon of the buildings in gw1 and have outright said in gw2 the buildings in rata sum were asura buildings. It was the community that speculated those buildings were mursatt ruins the asura moved into when they came to the surface and nothing more.

    Not really a soft retcon, because it was never actually implied to be mursaat ruins, and there are hints even in GW1 that they could have been asuran ruins - from the Vlox Falls description to the Central Transfer Chamber using the same exact models, to similar designed architecture being found in various dungeons (and not the Bloodstone Caves dungeon at that).

    People just took the anagram, ignored the second possible meaning, and ran with it a mile a minute until most of the gw1 vets left gw2.

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