Kuya.6495 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 So for those who don't know, bunker fb is being used as a meta support over bunker ele at the pro level and the non pro level in spvp. There have been a few threads in the pvp forum about nerfing bunker fb. Now I'm not asking you guys whether you think fb should be nerfed. What I'm asking is whether you think fb will be nerfed regardless of whether it's deserved or not and what would you nerf on bunker fb that wouldn't put it out of meta immediately. IE: what sustain tool do you think you can live without in pvp without being able to support your teammates effectively? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kKagari.6804 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I'd probably nerf ToC and ToR by making the skills smaller aoe, ground target skills with 600-900 range. Skills like ToR 2 4 and 5 being PBAoE makes it too easy for the firebrand to just kite and sustain. Its that level of trashy easy gameplay that makes PvP look bad, and I'm guilty of doing it too, its just too easy. The range on ToC 5 is just loltastic too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenith.7301 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 You should expect a nerf to FB in general. Condi DPS ridiculously strong on top of being the best burst condi class in PvE, and in PvP/WvW clearly FB is silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutaly.6257 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 What build do they use, so i know what we are discussing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FtoPScrub.5476 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Bunker FB balance is going to be tied to Scourge. If Scourge gets significant damage nerfs Anet should probably nerf FB sustain in the same patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darknicrofia.2604 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 FB is propped up by ridiculous vomit mechanics (spam burn in pve, spam condi cleanse/heal in pvp) to cover up a really horrible spec with a clunky weapon, class mechanics (tome swapping vs kit swapping smoothness) and 0 mobility, cc, or defense against power damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brannigan.9831 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 I think part of the reason it is being used is because so many other classes are terrible. Go look at the class breakdown for Automated Tournaments its not a pretty sight. Pretty much no one plays anything but Scourge, Spell Breaker, Mesmer,Thief, and Firebrand. Because conditions are so powerful right now a class that can spam anti-condition abilities is valuable. If we went back to a spike power meta or at least more balanced between conditions and power Firebrand would be much less useful. Personally, I don't like how bunker firebrand plays at all its low skill spamming and running in circles build imo and does zero damage. In solo queue if you get put with poor dps your team will have problems killing anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeolus.3615 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 @Zenith.7301 said:You should expect a nerf to FB in general. Condi DPS ridiculously strong on top of being the best burst condi class in PvE, and in PvP/WvW clearly FB is silly.for what ive observed (i dont own pof) it feels to spammy tons of boons if decently builded, funny ive seen more FB's on frontline with mantras even roamming due offensive and defensive boon stacking than actually supporting teamates, but in this game there's no "real teamwork", just stack'n spam gameplay, i dont expect FB to get that nerfed, ANet want players to be carried with easy'ish to play metas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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