zealex.9410 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Mirage(1): +25 Condition Damage(2): +35 Toughness(3): +50 Condition Damage(4): +65 Toughness(5): +100 Condition Damage(6): Heal yourself when you successfully evade an attack. (Cooldown: 20s).https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/704ac5/all_the_new_specialization_runes_are_on_the_wiki/ayyy lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriOri.8724 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 That's so fucking lame. The spec is designed around evading attacks, yet gets a 20s CD on what's probably a weak ass heal? How is that supposed to provide synergy with the spec? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zealex.9410 Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 The toughness as well makes it rather boring imo. These look really lazy. Id like power instead of toughness for some hybrid action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curunen.8729 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Soulbeast and Weaver runes look sick though (if Soulbeast works with Illusions as pets). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dethl.2875 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 condi damage -> okay sure whatevertoughness -> ehhhh would prefer an offensive stat if our traits are so defensive focusedheal proc -> oh okay it's runes of the defender but not goodprobably just gonna use spellbreaker runes for power builds and one of the old mainstays for condi i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zealex.9410 Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 The toughness as well makes it rather boring imo. These look really lazy. Id like power instead of toughness for some hybrid action.> @Curunen.8729 said:Soulbeast and Weaver runes look sick though (if Soulbeast works with Illusions as pets).the toughtness imo is bad should have been power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroatheist.9031 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I think they're extremely fitting for mirage actually. They're underwhelming and won't be used, just like mirage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyninja.2954 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Depends entirely on the heal at the end and the state Mirage ends up being in.IFMirage is a decent wvw roaming damage build which brings baseline high damage and defencesANDthe heal is very decent and those 20s cooldown are justifedit might make for a nice roaming bunker build for wvw. Renegade and Soulbeast look way better though on paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curunen.8729 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 @zealex.9410 said:The toughness as well makes it rather boring imo. These look really lazy. Id like power instead of toughness for some hybrid action.> @Curunen.8729 said:Soulbeast and Weaver runes look sick though (if Soulbeast works with Illusions as pets).the toughtness imo is bad should have been power Sure that part of Soulbeast runes is weird, but the rest of it looks good.Weaver could be amazing (assuming hybrid build) with Sword Ambush = on demand barrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zealex.9410 Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 @Curunen.8729 said:@zealex.9410 said:The toughness as well makes it rather boring imo. These look really lazy. Id like power instead of toughness for some hybrid action.> @Curunen.8729 said:Soulbeast and Weaver runes look sick though (if Soulbeast works with Illusions as pets).the toughtness imo is bad should have been power Sure that part of Soulbeast runes is weird, but the rest of it looks good.Weaver could be amazing (assuming hybrid build) with Sword Ambush = on demand barrier.I mean the toughtness part is the only thing looking wierd on the mirage runes (depending if the heal is decent) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curunen.8729 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 @zealex.9410 said:@Curunen.8729 said:@zealex.9410 said:The toughness as well makes it rather boring imo. These look really lazy. Id like power instead of toughness for some hybrid action.> @Curunen.8729 said:Soulbeast and Weaver runes look sick though (if Soulbeast works with Illusions as pets).the toughtness imo is bad should have been power Sure that part of Soulbeast runes is weird, but the rest of it looks good.Weaver could be amazing (assuming hybrid build) with Sword Ambush = on demand barrier.I mean the toughtness part is the only thing looking wierd on the runes (depending if the heal is decent) I'm not talking about Mirage runes anyway - my post was only about Soulbeast and Weaver runes. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibiskus.8294 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I actually like the mirage rune...just: why is there a cooldown...i mean: we can evade 2 times and then we need to wait for regenerating Endurance....so we already have some sort of Cooldown...i really hope they take away the Cooldown from the 6th stat.... other way there is the rune of the undead wich i really like for mirage and it has no Cooldown on the 6th stat (dont get away from the heal when you evade, that is a pretty cool idea). but i really like the concept of the mirage and can not wait to see the changes....in one of the last stress test postings they said they have made a couple of changes to the new elite specs but they have not implemented it into the stress test since they are still working on it, so that we see them the first time when PoF will be released.Now i am some sort of hyped for PoF (and still hoping that they allow us to move when using sword 2....and maybe they read the Small staff rwork suggestion thread), but well we will see what PoF will bring to us...also i can not wait to get my hands on the skimmer, it is my favorite.......8 days...oh that seems soooo long..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exciton.8942 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Weaver rune definitely has good synergy with mirage thrust.Mirage thrust also has good synergy with confounding suggestions.Now the problem is how do I find enough condition damage when I go with dom and mirage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zealex.9410 Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 @Curunen.8729 said:@zealex.9410 said:@Curunen.8729 said:@zealex.9410 said:The toughness as well makes it rather boring imo. These look really lazy. Id like power instead of toughness for some hybrid action.> @Curunen.8729 said:Soulbeast and Weaver runes look sick though (if Soulbeast works with Illusions as pets).the toughtness imo is bad should have been power Sure that part of Soulbeast runes is weird, but the rest of it looks good.Weaver could be amazing (assuming hybrid build) with Sword Ambush = on demand barrier.I mean the toughtness part is the only thing looking wierd on the runes (depending if the heal is decent) I'm not talking about Mirage runes anyway - my post was only about Soulbeast and Weaver runes. ;)yeah haha my bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zealex.9410 Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 @Hibiskus.8294 said:I actually like the mirage rune...just: why is there a cooldown...i mean: we can evade 2 times and then we need to wait for regenerating Endurance....so we already have some sort of Cooldown...i really hope they take away the Cooldown from the 6th stat.... other way there is the rune of the undead wich i really like for mirage and it has no Cooldown on the 6th stat (dont get away from the heal when you evade, that is a pretty cool idea). but i really like the concept of the mirage and can not wait to see the changes....in one of the last stress test postings they said they have made a couple of changes to the new elite specs but they have not implemented it into the stress test since they are still working on it, so that we see them the first time when PoF will be released.Now i am some sort of hyped for PoF (and still hoping that they allow us to move when using sword 2....and maybe they read the Small staff rwork suggestion thread), but well we will see what PoF will bring to us...also i can not wait to get my hands on the skimmer, it is my favorite.......8 days...oh that seems soooo long.....Id assume that evade woulda ply to mirage cloack as well as blur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriOri.8724 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 @Curunen.8729 said:@zealex.9410 said:The toughness as well makes it rather boring imo. These look really lazy. Id like power instead of toughness for some hybrid action.> @Curunen.8729 said:Soulbeast and Weaver runes look sick though (if Soulbeast works with Illusions as pets).the toughtness imo is bad should have been power Sure that part of Soulbeast runes is weird, but the rest of it looks good.Weaver could be amazing (assuming hybrid build) with Sword Ambush = on demand barrier.If you take chaos/illusions you can have phase retreat on a 6sec CD as a leap finisher, without fiddling around with the finnicky mirage cloak mechanic that mirage brings. That's a lot of uptime on barrier just from staff, not to mention iLeap/swap, and sword ambush if you do take mirage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroatheist.9031 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 @OriOri.8724 said:@Curunen.8729 said:@zealex.9410 said:The toughness as well makes it rather boring imo. These look really lazy. Id like power instead of toughness for some hybrid action.> @Curunen.8729 said:Soulbeast and Weaver runes look sick though (if Soulbeast works with Illusions as pets).the toughtness imo is bad should have been power Sure that part of Soulbeast runes is weird, but the rest of it looks good.Weaver could be amazing (assuming hybrid build) with Sword Ambush = on demand barrier.If you take chaos/illusions you can have phase retreat on a 6sec CD as a leap finisher, without fiddling around with the finnicky mirage cloak mechanic that mirage brings. That's a lot of uptime on barrier just from staff, not to mention iLeap/swap, and sword ambush if you do take mirage.Just go chrono and take the heal well and some other well for alacrity upkeep and you'll be pumping out barriers nonstop. Way better than the heal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exciton.8942 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 @Hibiskus.8294 said:I actually like the mirage rune...just: why is there a cooldown...i mean: we can evade 2 times and then we need to wait for regenerating Endurance....so we already have some sort of Cooldown...i really hope they take away the Cooldown from the 6th stat.... other way there is the rune of the undead wich i really like for mirage and it has no Cooldown on the 6th stat (dont get away from the heal when you evade, that is a pretty cool idea). but i really like the concept of the mirage and can not wait to see the changes....in one of the last stress test postings they said they have made a couple of changes to the new elite specs but they have not implemented it into the stress test since they are still working on it, so that we see them the first time when PoF will be released.Now i am some sort of hyped for PoF (and still hoping that they allow us to move when using sword 2....and maybe they read the Small staff rwork suggestion thread), but well we will see what PoF will bring to us...also i can not wait to get my hands on the skimmer, it is my favorite.......8 days...oh that seems soooo long.....If the heal is strong, w/o internal CD, daredevil can abuse it to make it potentially OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durzlla.6295 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I wish it would've been like condi and precision with gaining some sort of other effect on evade... like, maybe something offensive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriOri.8724 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 @Pyroatheist.9031 said:@OriOri.8724 said:@Curunen.8729 said:@zealex.9410 said:The toughness as well makes it rather boring imo. These look really lazy. Id like power instead of toughness for some hybrid action.> @Curunen.8729 said:Soulbeast and Weaver runes look sick though (if Soulbeast works with Illusions as pets).the toughtness imo is bad should have been power Sure that part of Soulbeast runes is weird, but the rest of it looks good.Weaver could be amazing (assuming hybrid build) with Sword Ambush = on demand barrier.If you take chaos/illusions you can have phase retreat on a 6sec CD as a leap finisher, without fiddling around with the finnicky mirage cloak mechanic that mirage brings. That's a lot of uptime on barrier just from staff, not to mention iLeap/swap, and sword ambush if you do take mirage.Just go chrono and take the heal well and some other well for alacrity upkeep and you'll be pumping out barriers nonstop. Way better than the heal. Yea, taking chrono with it will far outperform mirage. Fuck tons of barrier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xstein.2187 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Wait, so we got runes that will work better with a condi daredevil build? Oh wait, I guess not, cause there is a 20 SEC COOLDOWN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esplen.3940 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 20s cd on evade effect. Shouldn't it be 10s to be in line with evade cd (before reductions via endurance regen/vigor)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xstein.2187 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I don't know the stats. However, I also can't understand why they didn't lower both the heal and cool down to make it more of a "mirage" rune rather than a "same benifit for any class" rune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esplen.3940 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 To be fair, if it was endurance gain or vigor on using a deception skill, thief would be able to get more use out of it. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaboBabo.3581 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Oh that's sad. If i get like 50 dmg from a bleeding or something and then do an aggressiv ambush, i'm gonna waste the 20 sec heal...I hoped for "+ to all Stats" and an activation on Elite. Well im gonna use Krait for WvW, am not interested in movespeed boni, and the elite synergy is nice when taking Jaunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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