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  • @DarcShriek.5829 said:

    @rcs.4120 said:
    In case the devs/decision makers (not necessarily the same people) are curious. Yes, 1600 gems is still to expensive for a single mount skin.

    And yes, as a result of the overpricing on gems and pretty much blatant telling of the community to go screw yourselves with regards to their feedback, none of the four accounts in our household purchased or received gemcards this holiday season as a result.

    What do I think is fair and consistent?

    The 1600 gems for the set of 5 as in the holiday packs.
    200 for random chance,
    300 for random chance of a given type.
    400 for specific skin of a given type.
    600-800 if its really really fancy.

    Translation - devs and artists have no right to a decent living. They are only allowed to work for a pittance.

    Not sure how to do quotes and I am tired. I was going to stamp down my thrifty Scottish blood, and buy mount skins until I got a Springer one, but reading all the posts in this thread made me too ashamed to try. They are expensive, and I do not have a Griffon...therefore, my buying chances for a Springer is...a very wrong thing to do.

    But, if they were price pointed as per the post of rcs, which is quoted above, I would try with no hesitation. Wish I could give him a million thumbs up.

    Hmm...DarcShriek, Have you ever heard of Walmart. They sell most things cheaper than other stores, and guess what, people flock to that place.

    Mounts being something everyone wants, the Devs, might in fact, make a killing if they lowered the prices.

    The "Special Snowflakes" in this game though will not like this idea as they will no longer be a "Special Snowflake" if everyone has the shiny...expect them to howl.

    Lisa- Wants to go after the "Special Snowflakes" in game with a Flame Thrower...Engineer Style :)

  • @mercury ranique.2170 said:

    @Razael.1204 said:
    1. Make mount skins sellable on the TP.

    This would devaluate my purchase, both in uniqueness and value.

    @Razael.1204 said:
    2. Add mount skins to the Black Lion Chests as Super Rare or Rare.

    This would devaluate my purchase, both in uniqueness and value.

    @Razael.1204 said:
    3. Keep the RNG Adoption tickets but lower the price.

    This would devaluate my purchase, both in uniqueness and value.

    @Razael.1204 said:
    4. Add direct sales of the mount skins but at a higher price than the RNG.

    Example: Direct sale of a skin = 700 gems, RNG = 200 gems. If you want to gamble on the skin you get, it will not cost as much as getting the one you really want. To me, this would add to the economy and give players more options to obtain the skins they want. Just a suggestion.

    This would devaluate my purchase, both in uniqueness and value.

    My point here is that nothing can be done to the current mounts added to the game without infureating the customers who bought the mounts. And lets face it, those are the customers Arenanet should value over those who find mountskins too expensive. So the only suggestion that can be made is that they should change the system for future mounts. Mo's post allready stated they will. Not the price, but by keeping the current RNG mounts exclusive to the RNG set, but not extend there and add only direct buy skins to the store.

    Mercury Ranique I would call you a "Special Snowflake" but, I see, and I agree, with your points. People spent a kitten lot of money for these existing skins, and so the celebrity of those skins should be preserved.

    Lisa-Whose flame-throwing engineer will not be hunting you down in game :)

  • @ananda.5946 said:

    @Julischka Bean.7491 said:
    Hello Ananda.

    If the Griffin skin was not included, which I do not have, I, personally, would be on board totally with what you are saying. But because I do not have the Griffin, there is a very real chance that I will get a Griffin skin....my fault of course, but I wonder how many others of the player base, like me, do not have this Griffin and thus are not buying the RNG mount skins solely because of this.

    On the last day of my Physical Therapy, to celebrate, I took a chance on a skin..I really, really, really wanted a new Springer skin, and gambling was the only way to get one. I ended up with a nice Jackal skin..the Crowned Ancient.

    I might try again , but right now I am happy with the colors I used on the Springer skin I received in the Christmas Edition Pack.

    Big wide grin--- Springers came from the Crystal Desert.

    Core Vanilla game is probably too cold for them..

    They need a sweater set to keep warm...

    That is my excuse for playing a Christmas Springer after Christmas and I am sticking to it :)

    Oh, I didn’t think about the griffin skins and that some people won’t have that mount. If you never plan to get it, that makes the adoption thingie less fun for sure. On the other hand, if you plan to get it eventually, there are a couple of cute ones. And, I agree those winter mount skins are adorable.

    Hello ananda. Nope. I am totally lousy in team situations where I am expected to carry my weight...so I solo...and I have had great difficulty with the story, so I do not see a Griffin in my future. Wistful sigh...wish I could pay someone to help me get it, for a Griffon I would happily pay a goodly quantity of gold...oh well, If wishes were fishes...

    Lisa-Thankfully, still loves gliding.

  • appendy.8043appendy.8043 Member
    edited December 30, 2017

    I bought a Umbral Demon skin,after a few seconds I felt regret.Because that suck than 400Gem skins.
    Suck effect and sound,even Dajkah lantern skin better than it.
    1600/2000 skins all effect is suck , Can Anet buff them effect?
    I can say The Umbral demon skin's value should not be more than 10usd/800gem
    So i feel bad for my 20usd
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  • rcs.4120rcs.4120 Member ✭✭

    @DarcShriek.5829 said:

    @rcs.4120 said:
    In case the devs/decision makers (not necessarily the same people) are curious. Yes, 1600 gems is still to expensive for a single mount skin.

    And yes, as a result of the overpricing on gems and pretty much blatant telling of the community to go screw yourselves with regards to their feedback, none of the four accounts in our household purchased or received gemcards this holiday season as a result.

    What do I think is fair and consistent?

    The 1600 gems for the set of 5 as in the holiday packs.
    200 for random chance,
    300 for random chance of a given type.
    400 for specific skin of a given type.
    600-800 if its really really fancy.

    Translation - devs and artists have no right to a decent living. They are only allowed to work for a pittance.

    Translation - Not at all. The devs I'm pretty sure make more than the majority of the population with their years of experience. I suspect the artists likely make as much or
    more than other artists with similar talents (they have a job in their field [no offense intended to artists but the phrase "starving artist" comes from somewhere]). Of course only they would know. If they didn't, it is a free country so they could go find another job. Either way, I'm pretty confident non of them work on commission and the prices I listed are consistent with what the company themselves originally valued mount skins at. (1600 gems for a pack of 5. )

    Finally, a single skin doesn't take anywhere near 2/3 the effort of an expansion pack. Why should it cost 2/3 as much?

    Boardroom reason: 'There is such high demand we can practically charge whatever we want.' That is their right. For their sake, hopefully their estimates properly found the knee in the curve. My guess is it didn't. Again, only they have the information to truly know. Either way, this household isn't supporting it.

  • rcs.4120rcs.4120 Member ✭✭

    @Cragga the Eighty Third.6015 said:

    @rcs.4120 said:
    In case the devs/decision makers (not necessarily the same people) are curious. Yes, 1600 gems is still to expensive for a single mount skin.

    And yes, as a result of the overpricing on gems and pretty much blatant telling of the community to go screw yourselves with regards to their feedback, none of the four accounts in our household purchased or received gemcards this holiday season as a result.

    What do I think is fair and consistent?

    The 1600 gems for the set of 5 as in the holiday packs.
    200 for random chance,
    300 for random chance of a given type.
    400 for specific skin of a given type.
    600-800 if its really really fancy.

    Considering that a glider skin costs 500 (or 700 with back item) and I suspect mount skins probably involve more work to create, since they have to be applied to a much more complicated model, I consider the 400 gems for RNG skins to already be a bargain-basement price. (Which is one of the reasons I don't get upset with the RNG)

    Doubling your prices would be more realistic.

    The 1600gems and 400gems is what ANET originally established as the value for a skin. Technically a little more. Halloween skins 2k -20% discount is 1600gems. There you know exactly what your getting and that you'll be able to use it. 2000gems/5 =400 gems per mount skin. (This should be less because a discount that is always there really isn't a discount it is marketing.) So my prices are really just ANETs original valuation at a per item level.

    I actually had hope with the winters day skins but then I saw the Demon Skimmer Skin.

    Oh well, the more time that passes, the less I care and less interested I am in getting a skin since I realize how rarely I even see it anyway.

  • rcs.4120rcs.4120 Member ✭✭

    @appendy.8043 said:
    I bought a Umbral Demon skin,after a few seconds I felt regret.Because that suck than 400Gem skins.
    Suck effect and sound,even Dajkah lantern skin better than it.
    1600/2000 skins all effect is suck , Can Anet buff them effect?
    I can say The Umbral demon skin's value should not be more than 10usd/800gem
    So i feel bad for my 20usd
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    And look at its' dps. So low ;)

  • I have just licensed a new mount, but there does not seem to be any way to use it, since I can't get it into my mounts list (one 1 is unlocked). Is this an error, or am I just missing something obvious?

  • Cragga the Eighty Third.6015Cragga the Eighty Third.6015 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 1, 2018

    @Nacre Swindlehurst.1597 said:
    I have just licensed a new mount, but there does not seem to be any way to use it, since I can't get it into my mounts list (one 1 is unlocked). Is this an error, or am I just missing something obvious?

    Is this your first one? It should be mailed to you from the trading post, and when you double-click the license, (if it's an RNG one) you get an animation of an opening gate and the mount you unlocked in it. After that you should be able to go to Hero: Mounts, select the type of mount, and select the newly-unlocked skin.

  • Nilson.9865Nilson.9865 Member ✭✭✭

    Hello guys! Look at this super cool skin that i got from mount adoption license. Skin is so cool so i can't even express my feelings! Can you tell which one i got?

    That was sarcasm. This random skin made me sad, because it's so bad. Honestly will you stay with that skin? Ofc not, you'll test your luck again. But i, will not pay one more tax for my bad math. They could at least create collection achievement for skins and add collectible items that comes with skins. Like this

  • Just being able to have 4 dye channels was worth it for me.

    Of course, ymmv.

  • @Oglaf.1074 said:
    Gambling is a tax on stupidity or however that saying goes...

    Ambrose Bierce wrote:
    Lottery: A tax on people who are bad at math.
    Source: The Devil's Dictionary (a satirical dictionary)

    One may, of course, rephrase it to suit a different purpose. However, plenty of smart people are bad at math and any of us can be deceived by the glamour of high-value/low-rate rewards to be momentarily bereft of the ability to calculate. Besides which, it's hard to measure "fun".

    Hype is the path to the dark side. Hype leads to unfulfilled expectations. Disappointment leads to anger. Anger leads to disgust. Disgust leads to "oh, new shinies! I'm back!"

  • Ayumi Spender.1082Ayumi Spender.1082 Member ✭✭✭✭

    No one's fault but your own.
    There's one skin I want from that license thing and I refuse to even try once to see if I get it because of that kitten in there.
    You falling for it is not anyone's but your own.

    You should've never tried at it.
    Enjoy the skin you got, though.

  • On the bright side, your odds just got better for the skin that won't make you sad!

    Good luck on your next roll!

  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭

    That's the Bright Ringfin right? Believe it or not that's one of the ones I'd choose if I could. What I'd really like is 1 basic skin with 3-4 dye channels and 1 skin with some kind of effect for each mount. So if I got the Bright Ringfin, or the Oasis Skate or the Spiked Longtail I'd be happy.

    The thing that puts me off buying mount adoption licences is I don't want all of them. Only 2 skins per mount, a plain one and a 'fancy' one (maybe 3 skimmers, I like both the Oceanic Ray and the Dajkah Lantern so I'd like both of those plus a plain one). But I don't get to choose, so I might end up with 3 plain ones and no 'fancy' ones or the ones I like less and would struggle to dye well like the Flamelander raptor.

    The only way to avoid that is to treat the mounts as a 30-pack and buy all of them, which is very expensive, especially when I don't like them all.

    Danielle Aurorel - Desolation EU. Mini Collector.

    "I know that I'm born and I know that I'll die, the in-between is mine."

  • Donari.5237Donari.5237 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 4, 2018

    It dyes up much more nicely than that. I've chosen it for several of my alts even though I have the other two basic RNG ones as well (no glowy lights or fog effects showed up in my random skimmers). It becomes quite vivid -- try purples and golds, for instance.

    I mean, I understand the disappointment in not getting a "cooler" skin and I'm just as glad they've said they won't do this particular RNG method again, but I think you're showing it up as a lot worse than it is.

  • Mea.5491Mea.5491 Member ✭✭✭✭

    And this is a great example why people should stop buying RNG stuff so eventually that would force game devs to sell items directly in their cash shop. But of course people still buy these lame things because they are... um, that word would get me banned. :)

  • Ayumi Spender.1082Ayumi Spender.1082 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Mea.5491 said:
    And this is a great example why people should stop buying RNG stuff so eventually that would force game devs to sell items directly in their cash shop. But of course people still buy these lame things because they are... um, that word would get me banned. :)

    The word is Bookah.
    You can't get banned for a word in the game. It's Bookah.

  • Laila Lightness.8742Laila Lightness.8742 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 4, 2018

    Did this even suprise you blc is samething but worse

  • dragonkain.3984dragonkain.3984 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 5, 2018

    Summary of this thread:
    Come here to vent your anger walking moneybags, cos we won't do anything about absurd rng or prices of mounts anyway.

    Thief
    The Ripper: Bleeding has been adjusted from 3 stacks for 7 seconds to 4 stacks for 10 seconds.

  • Cragga the Eighty Third.6015Cragga the Eighty Third.6015 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 5, 2018

    Weirdly, I seemed to get pretty much what I wanted from the RNG, and even when I got things I didn't want, I was (mostly) happy to have them later.

    Mainly wanted a Raptor, it was the first one I got.
    Got two springers, which I was annoyed by at the time, but now I'm starting to outfit some alts, and love the extra option.
    Got the fire griffon, which motivated me to get a griffon.
    Decided to try to get a jackal, got one I didn't care for.

    Mentioned on the forum that I had been interested in the Clouded Corvus, didn't much like my jackal skin, and didn't care about getting a skimmer.

    Then I decided I'd try for a skimmer after all, and got the Clouded Corvus and THREE jackal skins (argh, the low point. Nearly identical, just different dye patterns.) and the lop springer, which at least looks hilarious died baby blue and pink being ridden by my growly Charr.

    Decided to try ONE LAST TIME and got the Ocean Ray bubbly skimmer, and was done.

    I kind of would like a second Raptor option, but I figure at this point, the odds are that I'll get one of the others, and feel no need at all for more griffons, springers, skimmers or (unless it's the starry one) jackals.

  • I've already dropped a bunch of money on the new mounts because I know what I'd hoped for wouldn't be implemented for a long time if ever and I love supporting anet and their artists. That said I have a love/hate relationship with the 400 gems ($5) for a random mount. At one point I like the idea of the randomness but at the same time I easily wouldn't mind spending say 600 gems for a specific mount. As a completionist I want to get them all so random is okay, and with 10+ characters on my account I can give everyone their own unique mount and color scheme. On the other hand I can't say that I like all the mounts and that I can say I'm in love with some of the raptors especially.

  • @Oglaf.1074 said:
    Gambling is a tax on stupidity or however that saying goes...

    Well, fortunately mount adoption isn't gambling, so none of the people that purchased one is stupid.

  • id rather see the price be increased but allow us to buy a Raptor or Jackal box for example. I bought like 8 of them and ended up with 4 griffon skins, which i might not ever unlock lol.

  • Kalli.4506Kalli.4506 Member ✭✭✭

    Can't they just change this so we can chose what skin we want to buy instead of having it random? They could just reset every unlocked skin from the mount adoption and refund the gems to those who already bought them. Then people can rebuy the skins they actually want and no one would loose.

  • Durzlla.6295Durzlla.6295 Member ✭✭✭✭

    To be 100% honest if it weren't ALL the mounts grouped together i'd be less annoyed with it, IE if it were a pay 800 gems for a random Springer skin, but as it is now the very thought of me buying one of these and getting a skimmer skin makes me sick.

    "But my children sing to me. Listen. They sing dark, delicious notes about power and family. As their mother, I have to grant them their wish."

  • Shirlias.8104Shirlias.8104 Member ✭✭✭✭

    They should introduce a new shop currency and Lower the cost.

    Emeralds and gems ie.

    Gems can be converted from golds at will and viceversa.
    Emeralds can be converted from gems in a limited daily or monthly quantity, and will be the new cash currency.

    New skins will cost half the current price, and could be purchased only with Emeralds.
    After 1 year, the old items will eventually return avaible also with gem purchase.

    New skins will cost less and would be purchased mostly with cash, without the need of huge Sums.

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Haleydawn.3764 said:
    Buys RNG Mount adoption Licence, complains he gets a basic skin from it...
    You knew the risk when you bought it.

    It also comes with 4 dye channels.

  • Odinsson.1953Odinsson.1953 Member
    edited February 26, 2018

    Beside GW2 I am playing Warframe and must say that I rather spend my money over there for a Frame/Character as here for an Mount Skin. As I do know there what I get.
    It's an much better relationship with the artists like this. And I think I would probably spend more money on skins to support the game if the relationship has not this predatory loot system involved.
    I have sadly spend money on this, but will not spend more if this kind of business behavior is not changed.

  • I will probably only ever buy the mount licences, i've already bought 4 which is less than 1 mount and I am very happy with what I have got out of it for the price and will buy more just to get some more but it's a shame that we can't have all mounts added to licences and being single purchase available at a higher price too.

    I expected to get 4 basic skins just for the dye channels (main thing I wanted) but what I got was in order of opening; water effect skimmer (really cool effects and noises), some striped griffin I can't use yet, a basic raptor and a fire griffin which I also can't use yet but was very happy to get anyway.

    I would prefer it if things like gliders and outfits also had this option of obtaining them too, through a much cheaper way but with random rewards as it would then be my preferred method of spending gems.

  • ReaverKane.7598ReaverKane.7598 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Odinsson.1953 said:
    Beside GW2 I am playing Warframe and must say that I rather spend my money over there for a Frame/Character as here for an Mount Skin. As I do know there what I get.
    It's an much better relationship with the artists like this. And I think I would probably spend more money on skins to support the game if the relationship has not this predatory loot system involved.
    I have sadly spend money on this, but will not spend more if this kind of business behavior is not changed.

    I've played 1/10th of the time i spent in GW2 and discounting buying the game i've spent probably the same amount of money there than in GW2.
    First they keep giving me 75% discounts on purchases, so i usually go and buy the highest packages (in gw2 terms it's like buying the 2000 gem pack for less than the price of 400 gems).
    Second there's Tennogen, knowing that my money also goes to another player getting some back for their awesome mods is cool.
    Third, all player to player purchases are done in their equivalent to gems, so it's actually handy having some plat to make more plat.
    Fourth, and this si the most important: Everything not cosmetic there is easily obtainable in the game, and everything else is straightforward. There's no RNG items, there's no weird packaging of items to make you spend more money, there's no limited dye slots on items to make you buy equivalent quality items for real money. When you buy a skin, you buy it because you like that one more. Not because it's the only alternative you have to getting more dye channels.
    Also buying premium dyes you buy a whole pallette of dyes, not a RNG dye with a higher chance of getting a common in-game dye than the stuff you want.

    GW2 is an awesome game, but there's a lot of predatory and exploitative items in it's gemstore.

  • @ReaverKane.7598 said:

    @Odinsson.1953 said:
    Beside GW2 I am playing Warframe and must say that I rather spend my money over there for a Frame/Character as here for an Mount Skin. As I do know there what I get.
    It's an much better relationship with the artists like this. And I think I would probably spend more money on skins to support the game if the relationship has not this predatory loot system involved.
    I have sadly spend money on this, but will not spend more if this kind of business behavior is not changed.

    I've played 1/10th of the time i spent in GW2 and discounting buying the game i've spent probably the same amount of money there than in GW2.
    First they keep giving me 75% discounts on purchases, so i usually go and buy the highest packages (in gw2 terms it's like buying the 2000 gem pack for less than the price of 400 gems).
    Second there's Tennogen, knowing that my money also goes to another player getting some back for their awesome mods is cool.
    Third, all player to player purchases are done in their equivalent to gems, so it's actually handy having some plat to make more plat.
    Fourth, and this si the most important: Everything not cosmetic there is easily obtainable in the game, and everything else is straightforward. There's no RNG items, there's no weird packaging of items to make you spend more money, there's no limited dye slots on items to make you buy equivalent quality items for real money. When you buy a skin, you buy it because you like that one more. Not because it's the only alternative you have to getting more dye channels.
    Also buying premium dyes you buy a whole pallette of dyes, not a RNG dye with a higher chance of getting a common in-game dye than the stuff you want.

    GW2 is an awesome game, but there's a lot of predatory and exploitative items in it's gemstore.

    Exactly my point. But you explained this better than me.
    Rebecca Ford the Community Director of DE has hammered in every single employee at DE that the Players are not "Fans" they are "Citizen". So you treat them with more respect.
    The exchange between playerbase and Developers is wide open and helps the game a lot.
    Every Community Manager for any Company should take hard look and open mind to learn from this company.
    Don't get me wrong I love this game and the artist who work hard on this. But the decisions of the Management I cannot understand. If you want that this game has long term relationship with the customers please change the attitude.
    "Just be better".
    In the end it will also make sense financially.

  • ReaverKane.7598ReaverKane.7598 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 28, 2018

    @Odinsson.1953 said:

    @ReaverKane.7598 said:

    @Odinsson.1953 said:
    Beside GW2 I am playing Warframe and must say that I rather spend my money over there for a Frame/Character as here for an Mount Skin. As I do know there what I get.
    It's an much better relationship with the artists like this. And I think I would probably spend more money on skins to support the game if the relationship has not this predatory loot system involved.
    I have sadly spend money on this, but will not spend more if this kind of business behavior is not changed.

    I've played 1/10th of the time i spent in GW2 and discounting buying the game i've spent probably the same amount of money there than in GW2.
    First they keep giving me 75% discounts on purchases, so i usually go and buy the highest packages (in gw2 terms it's like buying the 2000 gem pack for less than the price of 400 gems).
    Second there's Tennogen, knowing that my money also goes to another player getting some back for their awesome mods is cool.
    Third, all player to player purchases are done in their equivalent to gems, so it's actually handy having some plat to make more plat.
    Fourth, and this si the most important: Everything not cosmetic there is easily obtainable in the game, and everything else is straightforward. There's no RNG items, there's no weird packaging of items to make you spend more money, there's no limited dye slots on items to make you buy equivalent quality items for real money. When you buy a skin, you buy it because you like that one more. Not because it's the only alternative you have to getting more dye channels.
    Also buying premium dyes you buy a whole pallette of dyes, not a RNG dye with a higher chance of getting a common in-game dye than the stuff you want.

    GW2 is an awesome game, but there's a lot of predatory and exploitative items in it's gemstore.

    Exactly my point. But you explained this better than me.
    Rebecca Ford the Community Director of DE has hammered in every single employee at DE that the Players are not "Fans" they are "Citizen". So you treat them with more respect.
    The exchange between playerbase and Developers is wide open and helps the game a lot.
    Every Community Manager for any Company should take hard look and open mind to learn from this company.
    Don't get me wrong I love this game and the artist who work hard on this. But the decisions of the Management I cannot understand. If you want that this game has long term relationship with the customers please change the attitude.
    "Just be better".
    In the end it will also make sense financially.

    Rebecca is awesome!
    I actually miss playing WF but haven't had much time for games, not even GW2. Should go bakc one of these days.

    You're right, and while i don't think that in general Arena Net aren't that bad. They do forget to keep that philosophy going some times, and have incredibly disrespectful (in my opinion) behaviours sometimes. Thankfully that's not the norm. But there have been a lot of very questionable choices in the past that are incredibly dismissive of their most veteran players (which sometimes it feels they take for granted):

    • Heroic Edition: Basically they started selling the game cheaper, but with more items than what you'd get if you had pre-ordered, and they never chose to retroactively award those same items to current players (I got mine due to a bug on their part, basically i got in on the first HoT beta, and when they reverted the game back, they could only revert it to Heroic Edition, so people like me got the items, but most people that bought the game on launch or pre-ordered got shafted on that.
    • Every decision after deciding to go F2P, were simply dismissive of everyone that had paid for core GW2, and it took a lot of outrage for them to give us a crappy character slot if you pre-ordered HoT.
      I could go on... But honestly, anyone who's honest with themselves and doesn't have a short memory span knows what else they did (including mount-gate and subsequent mount monetization).

    TLDR: Most of Arena Net are awesome people, and love the game and the players. The exception being, apparently, the people in charge of monetization and the gemstore.

  • RLD.7439RLD.7439 Member

    I was on the fence about purchasing PoF and coming back to GW2 until today. I found out not one single mount skin can be earned in-game.
    Too much greed for me, I'll pass.

  • MckinneyMini.9406MckinneyMini.9406 Member
    edited September 13, 2018

    I want to add that I don't mind the mount adoption thing, I actually think its fun to get a random one (as long as the option to buy the one you want for more money is there), however I HATE that you cannot at least pick the TYPE of mount. I didn't know this my first time buying an adoption and I ended up with a skin for a mount I didn't have. I think thats silly and they don't lose any money by at least just letting you pick the mount TYPE. Its especially ridiculous when you are paying $60 for both expansions.....when most MMOs inslude the mounts for free. Like I said, I don't mind paying, but the not being able to choose which mount is ridiculous. I also think you should be able to earn SOME skins in game, especially since we paid for the mounts outright and its not like they were free. They can still do random skins for each mount type and its the same premise. Its REALLY not worth it when they lump all the mounts in there like that, thats just silly. They should do the random skin thing and you just select which mount you want the random skin for, easy peasy.

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