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Nearly 1700 hours playtime and not a single ascended lootbox drop. Is that normal?

Not here to complain, just hoping to compare notes. Like the title says, I've been playing for a while now and I'm starting to wonder if I just have abysmal luck. In all this time I've spent clubbing everything that looked at me crossways I've never had an ascended lootbox drop, let alone a precursor. Some notes: Account MF is at 149%. I rarely use food that increase MF, and even more rarely use boosters. I don't raid or run fractals. The vast majority of my playtime has been spent in open world PvE participating in most events I come across, the occasional TD/AB meta and bullying a great many random mobs. Given all that, would you guys say that my results are to be expected? Or have I just been beating the odds in the worst of ways?

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  • best way to getting ascended boxes are from fractal dailies, i've gotten way more from there then anywhere else in game.

  • RoseofGilead.8907RoseofGilead.8907 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 11, 2017

    6974 hours and only two ascended boxes ever for me. :p So, yeah, I think it's normal. But, as crosknight said, your best chance at getting ascended box drops is t4 fractal dailies.

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  • FogLeg.9354FogLeg.9354 Member ✭✭✭

    4300+ hours, never had ascended item drop in PvE.

    However, got several from WvW level up.

  • 6000+ hours
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  • I tend to get 3-4 a month in wvw. I am sure you can get more than that doing fractals daily. Still is RNG some players are lucky others not so much ascended boxes are rare.

  • Shirlias.8104Shirlias.8104 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Mine came from fractals, achievements, SPvP and WvW.
    Maybe but not sure 1 from tequatl, but i am not sure ( not the tequatl one but a random ascended box ).

  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @LightningWolfTigerBear.6725 said:
    I don't raid or run fractals. The vast majority of my playtime has been spent in open world PvE participating in most events I come across, the occasional TD/AB meta and bullying a great many random mobs.

    This is your problem. Ascended loot boxes are not normal drops, they only come from a few specific places and based on your post you're not participating in most of those.

    You can get armour and weapons from:

    • Tequatl the Sunless chest (1 chance per day)
    • Triple Trouble chest (1 per day)
    • Fractals - boxes come from the daily achievements and individual pieces, especially rings, can drop directly
    • Raid bosses (only 1 chance per day)
    • WvW rank up chests
    • PvP reward chests
    • Very rarely from guild missions
    • very rarely from champion bags

    Trinkets only come from Fractals, Raids and WvW and backpacks can come from raids but mostly have to be crafted.

    Based on your post the only chances you have to get ascended drops are when you get a champion bag (and I think those have the lowest drop rates of the whole lot, and none of them are especially common). So it's not at all surprising that you haven't gotten any yet.

    (Precursors can come from anywhere but the drop rate on them is so incredibly low that the majority of players will never get one as a drop, or will only ever get 1. Yes we all know the guy whose friends brother got 1 in his first week and has gotten like 5 total, but those are outliers or, more likely, lying/including drops from the Mystic Forge (which are far more likely).

    If you want ascended equipment you can either chance which aspects of the game you focus on, or buy trinkets with laurels and craft weapons and armour. If you want a precursor your best bet is to either do the collection or (if it's a gen 1 precursor) buy it from the TP.

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  • Best thing is to look up on the wiki exactly what you want (and there is also a page on "ascended chests"), and backtrack to find out exactly how it drops and try to focus on the best odds without sacrificing your game enjoyment (random chance at all times may be true, but it's not your best method of getting). Banking on it randomly, especially for ascended stuff, probably isn't gonna feel good in the end compared to if you do certain achievements, fight some world bosses, fight champions for champ loot bags, and do some basic tier 1 fractals. Yes, tier 1 has chance to drop ascended chests and i can vouch some of these are literally as easy as open world dynamic events most times so no worries - I recently dipped my toes in those waters too and it was fun). These are some focused ways to better your odds (at least to me) compared to just hoping for random drops, which is possible, but why bank on that when you can adapt and better your chances plus probably get involved in some content you never even knew was there or didn't appreciate fully.

  • Fluffball.8307Fluffball.8307 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Open world is dirt easy and not very rewarding because of it.

  • Cyninja.2954Cyninja.2954 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Do content which actually drops ascended loot, then get lucky. Going by your post, you have not been playing content which can reward ascended gear in the first place.

    @LightningWolfTigerBear.6725 said:
    I don't raid or run fractals.

    Outside of this content the only things that come to mind are Tequatle and WvW as far as ascended loot chances goes.

    See, don't feel bad, you never played content which could drop them in the first place so your luck isn't terrible.

  • Jeknar.6184Jeknar.6184 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Cyninja.2954 said:
    Do content which actually drops ascended loot, then get lucky. Going by your post, you have not been playing content which can reward ascended gear in the first place.

    @LightningWolfTigerBear.6725 said:
    I don't raid or run fractals.

    Outside of this content the only things that come to mind are Tequatle and WvW as far as ascended loot chances goes.

    See, don't feel bad, you never played content which could drop them in the first place so your luck isn't terrible.

    Triple Trouble also give ascended like Tequatl.

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  • Maethor.2810Maethor.2810 Member ✭✭✭

    3,300+ hours in 5 years and I've only gotten about 5 ascended boxes. Those all came from when I was doing daily stints at Tequatl (but I also don't do a ton of fractals, any form of PVP, and I've done Triple Trouble once).

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 11, 2017

    Just doing open world content will almost guarantee never getting an ascended drop. Outside of World Bosses (usually Tequatl or Triple Trouble) and landscape chests, I don't think ascended even drops or if it does, it is rarer than a precursor. You can get precursors from random mobs, but I've never had 1 from that source in over 7000 hours (a guildie got one from a jellyfish in Southson whilst farming back in the day with me though).

    As you are doing TD/AB I encourage you to stock up on keys. I have had 2 precursors from the smallest AB chests, so increase your chances by making sure you never walk by a chest w/o opening it.

    So no, you are not unlucky

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  • over 200% mf never gotten any. never really cared.

  • rwolf.9571rwolf.9571 Member ✭✭✭

    Started doing T4 Fractals last year. MF 250%. I have 2 bank tabs full of ascended gear... (you name it, rings, trinkets, amulets, weapons armour)
    That said. It's extremely rare for ascended to drop in the open world. I can count those number of drops on one hand with 5000 hours put in.

  • Solori.6025Solori.6025 Member ✭✭✭✭

    7500+ Hours
    and I think I have only ever gotten 5 ascended box drops.
    Though I have also never, ever gotten a dropped precursor either.
    I think some accounts are just luckier than others

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  • If u dont do raid or fractal, try silverwate farm, they can give u ascended box

  • TheQuickFox.3826TheQuickFox.3826 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2017

    In WvW, I got between 5 to 10 (estimated) ascended loot boxes. My WvW rank is 900. I think the drop rate in WvW is significantly higher than PvE. Stil, it remains a rare drop.

    Precursors never dropped here. 2700 hours into GW2.

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  • Cynz.9437Cynz.9437 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2017

    From my experience so far (7+k? hours or something), best drop rate is from higher lv fractals/fractal dailies and raids for obvious reasons (got so many ascended boxes, i lost count tbh, was enough to gear multiple characters + alt builds). PvP is second best option. In normal pve i think i never saw any ascended. Neither in wvw.

    Got 11? pres in playtime, most of them from MF. Rest from fractals/dungeons.

    If you really want ascended you either have to craft it (which is crappiest alternative in game after token change) or run fractals (best option, imo).

    Meh~

  • I got one from the chest in LA jumping puzzle (by the pirate), that's the only one outside of the 'normal' places that have dropped one for me. Any open world chest can apparently drop them.

  • Few rings from lots of wvw. Many rings and few armor/weapon drops from lots of pvp, one weapon from tequatl.

  • jediwolf.8724jediwolf.8724 Member ✭✭✭

    I did Tequatl every night for a couple of months none dropped. Brought a different character down a week later it dropped one.
    Ascended rings I got a ton from fractals. Most of my ascended weapons and armor from PVP reward tracks. Funny because I don't like PvP. Also one dropped for
    me in WvW. Never had a precursor drop in PvE yet. Got few from the Mystic Forge.
    Both are very rare drops.

  • Despond.2174Despond.2174 Member ✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2017

    That's normal, it's not meant to be a reliable source of ascended unless you raid/high fractals .just farm the gold with all those hours and craft it. 60-65g will get you most ascended weapons, ~400g full ascended armor. You could farm @ a casual pace in a few weeks doing SW, metas without any TP flipping. Trinkets are basically free with LW3, and you also can get a free ascended piece from a pvp season - you don't even have to win a game. If you farmed labs during halloween then you should have a nice stash of gold too. World bosses I've only ever got 2 weapon caches from Teq and 1 armor from Wurm.

    But going back to my original answer, that's normal, I've only ever got 1 non-world boss ascended drop in the open world, and 1 ascended piece drop from wvw.

  • I have only had 1 ascended weapon box and 1 ascended armor box drop. However, before they added those marks you have to craft, I managed to get my ranger into ascended armor. Personally, I hate those marks for PVP and Fractals.

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  • 5+ years, over 6,000 hours logged in (a lot of it afk but still), and I've gotten no precurser drops and two ascended boxes. Period. I've done fractals, a bit of WvW, a bit of PvP, but mostly PvE. Granted, I got one of those ascended boxes from Teq and it was a Sunless weapon, but that was apparently me wasting all my luck. I barely get named exotics, exotics at all, or rares that aren't guaranteed. My luck in this game is notoriously bad.

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  • Blude.6812Blude.6812 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @LightningWolfTigerBear.6725 said:
    Not here to complain, just hoping to compare notes. Like the title says, I've been playing for a while now and I'm starting to wonder if I just have abysmal luck. In all this time I've spent clubbing everything that looked at me crossways I've never had an ascended lootbox drop, let alone a precursor. Some notes: Account MF is at 149%. I rarely use food that increase MF, and even more rarely use boosters. I don't raid or run fractals. The vast majority of my playtime has been spent in open world PvE participating in most events I come across, the occasional TD/AB meta and bullying a great many random mobs. Given all that, would you guys say that my results are to be expected? Or have I just been beating the odds in the worst of ways?

    Their RNG formula is a P O you know what. Been playing since the beginning and the drops of good stuff have been absent. It called an outlier account and like me, you are not going to get a decent drop. Their is a problem with the game drops.

  • Khisanth.2948Khisanth.2948 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I know the airship cargos can drop them so in theory the TD and AB chest can too but the drop rate is so low it isn't really worth considering. Between HoT's release and now I've gotten a single weapon box from those and I spend a lot of time in VB.

    More recent box was from a WvW rank up chest.

  • Aurelius.6829Aurelius.6829 Member ✭✭✭

    I got my first ascended weapon box after 274 days.

  • Only some part of PvE give you ascended box (Teq, triple trouble and fractal is the only one i know of), if you don't play those often then no matter how much time you play, you will never get one.

    I have play for 1800 hours and i have ~20 ascended box or so, more than half of them come from fractal. If possible, you should try fractal, unlike raid, fractal have different difficult tier, and in tier 1 no one should complain no matter how bad you are XD.

  • DeanBB.4268DeanBB.4268 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I'm about 2000 hours since launch and, if memory serves correctly: 1 ascended armor, 1 ascended weapon, 1 precursor. The armor came from a jumping puzzle chest in Caledon Forest.

    The rest of the ascended armor and weapons have been crafted, plus a legendary shield from the precursor.

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  • mauried.5608mauried.5608 Member ✭✭✭

    Ive had 2 drop from doing nothing but the AB meta event and that took over 400 runs.
    Surprisingly or otherwise, the first drop was in the first 50 or so runs, and the 2nd close to the 400th.
    RNGs are to some people unfair, as they are only really random over an infinite number of selections, so its perfectly possible for some people to get lots of rare drops for doing very little, and for others to get nothing for doing many events.
    Its a bit like a roulette wheel.
    If you do an event and dont get anything good, then doing the same event again doesnt change the odds.

  • GWMO.4785GWMO.4785 Member ✭✭✭

    As someone that literately has even less then 0% luck. (my magic find is 302% by the time i write this). Dont wait for it. Just craft it

  • i got ascended drop in my 5th fractal haha B)

  • Biff.5312Biff.5312 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I don't know how many hours I have - a couple of years playing almost daily. No ascended drops.

  • @Biff.5312 said:
    I don't know how many hours I have - a couple of years playing almost daily. No ascended drops.

    Number of hours is not a good predictor. It depends on the type of content you do far more than how much time you have clocked in the game. Slightly better would be: the number of foes killed (but then: it also depends on where the foes are, what type of foes, and how much MF you have).

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  • I've been playing since the beginning, and have only dropped two - both from Tequatl, within about a month of each other.

    Apparently all my luck is bound up with that dragon.

  • MarshallLaw.9260MarshallLaw.9260 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Perhaps this is just the luck I have had so far but with just under 800 hours, I would say that my drop rate seems fairly acceptable.
    I have found that I have more ascended drops when opening many containers of the same type simultaneously.
    Last month I saved had 15 days worth of tequatl boxes (dragon chest exotic) and received 4 ascended weapons chests (2 teq hoards and 2 stonecleaver) when opening them all at the same time.
    Disregarding ascended rings, I have had a total of 19 ascended chests so far from world boss events and sPVP reward track boxes. Fractals have yet to drop anything other than trinkets (mostly rings), but I have currently not played this mode more than 30 times.
    For reference my MF is about 135 I believe and I have not used boosts when opening boxes(perhaps I should change this).

    For players focusing on openworld PVE content, my advice would be to target world boss events such as Tequatl and Tripple Trouble as those have been documented to have the most reasonable drop rate.

  • intox.6347intox.6347 Member ✭✭✭

    8800 hours played
    dropped about
    15++ weapon boxes
    10 armor boxes
    rings too much ...
    no precursor, 70% from wvw, 20% spvp, 10% pve (fractals), but most of time i spend in wvw

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  • Biff.5312Biff.5312 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:

    @Biff.5312 said:
    I don't know how many hours I have - a couple of years playing almost daily. No ascended drops.

    Number of hours is not a good predictor. It depends on the type of content you do far more than how much time you have clocked in the game. Slightly better would be: the number of foes killed (but then: it also depends on where the foes are, what type of foes, and how much MF you have).

    No idea in that respect. I do a lot of world bosses but no fractals for instance. Anyway I checked and I have about 1700 hours played. I've had about half a dozen exotic drops, no ascended. I'm not complaining though - just my experience.

  • TheQuickFox.3826TheQuickFox.3826 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 8, 2017

    Not normal to me, but I think this greatly depends on the game type you play. I got 20+ in 2000 hours, mostly from WvW chests. Most of them are ascended rings and trinkets. In open world PvE I never saw an ascended drop.

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  • You are just taking your first baby steps down the rabbit hole. I have 5,786 hours of game play and I have not seen an ascended drop or precursor. I do have to say that as my Magic Find is closing in on 200, I am seeing a few exotic drops.

  • sephiroth.4217sephiroth.4217 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 8, 2017

    All my ascended drops came from reward tracks, I have 4 armor sets, 11 weapons and 3 bank tabs full of trinkets now.

    8,000 hours played though.

  • Grim West.3194Grim West.3194 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 9, 2017

    RNG is a very harsh mistress.

  • Cyninja.2954Cyninja.2954 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Again, people don't seem to understand that ascended loot boxes only drop from specific content:

    • wvw/spvp has a very small chance
    • fractals have a very decent chance if you are doing fractal T3 and T4 from daily chests
    • tequatle and tripple wurm have a terrible chance
    • raids have quite a high chance for ascended loot once per week
    • open world has literally 0 chance to drop ascended

    My guess is people who don't see ascended loot are just playing game modes where there is no chance to see this loot drop.

  • Turin.6921Turin.6921 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 10, 2017

    If you are talking outside fractals and raids then yes its perfectly normal. I have 3500+ and only ever got one ascended drop on open world. And on WvW/PvP chances are slightly better. Ascended are there are rewards for specific collections and for you to craft when we are talking outside raids and fractals. Only the more challenging PvE content has any realistic chance for a drop.

  • Pridedemon.3041Pridedemon.3041 Member ✭✭
    edited December 13, 2017

    My base magic find is 220% and about 2330 hours of playtime. I have got quite a lot of ascended chests actually, mostly from tequatl/pvp just playing the game.
    I don't play fractals anymore and when i used to play back then regularly before HoT (lvl 50 was the max you could do) ascended chests did'nt use to drop in fractals. Although i have still over 2 tabs worth of bank filled with ascended rings from fractals (many deleted lol, you couldn't salvage rings back then) and every single character of mine equipped with ascended rings (i have 15 80's)

    I only ever had ONE precursor drop on me and it was a filthy precursor for LEGENDARY TRIDENT (sold for less then 100g) and it dropped from an elite mob in crucible of eternity. I guess what you play or where you play does indeed increase your chance significantly of getting an ascended chest. Got an ascended armor chest yesterday from pvp :P

  • RoseofGilead.8907RoseofGilead.8907 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Cyninja.2954 said:

    • open world has literally 0 chance to drop ascended

    Not quite true. As long as you're level 80, you have a (very very rare) chance to get ascended boxes from exotic quality champion bags, world boss chests, and generally any chest found in the open world. One of the only ascended boxes I've received was from a champ bag I got from doing some world boss event.

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  • Cyninja.2954Cyninja.2954 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @RoseofGilead.8907 said:

    @Cyninja.2954 said:

    • open world has literally 0 chance to drop ascended

    Not quite true. As long as you're level 80, you have a (very very rare) chance to get ascended boxes from exotic quality champion bags, world boss chests, and generally any chest found in the open world. One of the only ascended boxes I've received was from a champ bag I got from doing some world boss event.

    That chance is so low it can be considered nonexistent but sure, you have a 0.000001% chance or so to get one that way. The main idea behind the loot in this game is, you get the loot you need from the content for the content. You absolutely do not need ascended gear for open world content. Precursors are more common than ascended gear in open world content, and that's says a lot.

    But you are correct, theoretically if true, there is a very small chance. But since there is tons of people with 4-5k+ hours of playtime without ever seening a precursor drop (myself included) it's to be dismissed.

  • Wvw best chance got one at rank 15

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