finding it hard to play PoF

this is by far my least favorite expansion everything is way over tuned way worse than HoT was and with the amount of condi's getting spammed out Its just not fun to play, i stopped playing WvW because of the condi's during HoT now shits been cranked to 11 with PoF. Now that i dont play WvW or PvP (because balance is the worst its ever been) the only place left is PvE but theres hardly anything to do in PoF if you've done it once already, for an expansion all about content there's very little of it unless the loot box mount skins are the content Anet was talking about so i guess ill comeback for living world season 4 but if nothing changes im gonna go give WoW a try they got a new Xpac coming. i do love all the new specializations though all except dead eye that was dead before it came out.

@ArcanistSeven.8720 said:[...] all except dead eye that was dead before it came out.

Maybe you go back to a place where you played before, which might be HoT in your case.I am having a blast in PoF and hope aNet does more of that in the future.

Excelsior.

PoF is amazing the first time you do it but after you do it once there is nothing to do and you cant do them again because thats the way collections are designed so theres very little replay value. when anet was talking about more content i was expecting a new fractal and a new raid wing but its obvious this content was not made to last instead it feels like it was made to segue into living world which makes me worried about future expansions.

PoF is wots Xpac im ever see. 0 bosses 0 metas 0 dungeons 0 fractas 0 raids 0 WwW maps 0 SPVP mas 0 hard mods 0 challenge mots ... all contn ultra easy and booring, flat maps, solo things. im played PoF mayve 2 weeks andf deilte gw2...... whem im playd HoT about 8 months

IMO everytime a player jumps on a mount they are enjoying PoF-content, and tons of players seems to enjoy using them. Having new and old players come back because of expansion hype has invigorated the game as a whole in my experience, which is a plus. Tinkering with the new Elite Specs have been quite fun also.

As for the PoF-maps, I do believe they could have benefitted from having two-three visually stunning bosses in the style of Shatterer or Behemoth, but alas. I think a mistake was that many players rushed through the maps too quickly. I personally enjoy them and am having a great time exploring through them with all my characters, and since I don't play that many hours a week it will keep me busy for a while.

Also let's wait and see what LS4 brings to the table (since it was theoretically "included" when buying poF).

@Zedek.8932 said:/snip

Do you have a build of Deadeye you could message? I like the specc, but would like to see some other setups for inspiration.

@Anhellbro.7210 said:0 bosses 0 metas 0 dungeons 0 fractas 0 raids 0 WwW maps 0 SPVP mas 0 hard mods 0 challenge mots ...

I did the maths based on these numbers, thank goodness for calculators on pc's these days, even then it was pretty challenging but after much number crunching I came to the conclusion that PoF scored a 0.

Whatever. Delete this post, please.

@Anhellbro.7210 said:PoF is wots Xpac im ever see. 0 bosses 0 metas 0 dungeons 0 fractas 0 raids 0 WwW maps 0 SPVP mas 0 hard mods 0 challenge mots ... all contn ultra easy and booring, flat maps, solo things. im played PoF mayve 2 weeks andf deilte gw2...... whem im playd HoT about 8 months

Your Illiteracy crits the English language for 9,000,000! The English language dies!

More seriously, raids and fractals are coming, they are simply on their own release schedule now, not tied to expansions. The first raid was, but only because it was a new feature for HoT.

Flat maps are a response to criticism of the HoT maps vertical, often confusing layout. Lack of metas is also a response to criticism, in that case of area of the map being difficult or impossible to access if you land in a non-meta map (and getting chewed out and told to relog if you do land in a meta map but want to do something other than the meta.)

I will grant, Anet could balance the styles a bit better, and I hope they do for LS4, but PoF is hardly 'the worst ever' for an expansion.

Stand back! I'm about to perform a word dump dissection!

@ArcanistSeven.8720 said:this is by far my least favorite expansion

Fair enough, although there has only been two expansions to date.

@ArcanistSeven.8720 said:everything is way over tuned way worse than HoT was and with the amount of condi's getting spammed out Its just not fun to play,

I'm sorry you are having trouble "playing how you want." There are several build posts and critiques in each profession sub-forum, so maybe try looking there, or better yet, ask.

@ArcanistSeven.8720 said:i stopped playing WvW because of the condi's during HoT now kitten been cranked to 11 with PoF.

Condition spam has been a thing even in vanilla. HoT introduced Resistance to counteract that, while PoF introduced more Boon Strips for the counter's counter. Yet the zergs will zerg in the never ending cycle of resets.

@ArcanistSeven.8720 said:the only place left is PvE but theres hardly anything to do in PoF if you've done it once already, for an expansion all about content

How many hours did you spend going through Path of Fire? I mean, in total. After exploring every point of interest, etc., etc.

Also let's play a game of meta events I can name off the top of my head, per map:

Crystal OasisCasino Blitz and Pinata

Elon RiverlandsAugury RockDeadhouse

DesolationMaws of Torment

Domain of VabbiForged FoundrySerpent's Ire

The Buried Treasure map-wide event in Desert Highlands isn't a meta event, but the Superior Buried Treasures reward exclusive loot.

@ArcanistSeven.8720 said:so i guess ill comeback for living world season 4 but if nothing changes im onna go give WoW a try they got a new Xpac coming.

Absolutely! Go have fun!

@Zedek.8932 said:Maybe you go back to a place where you played before, which might be HoT in your case.I am having a blast in PoF and hope aNet does more of that in the future.

Excelsior.

Really? What are you doing in PoF after you played through it once?

@Dashiva.6149 said:IMO everytime a player jumps on a mount they are enjoying PoF-content, and tons of players seems to enjoy using them.

This is true - people enjoying mounts = people enjoying PoF content just like with Gliding. But I believe the OP was looking for more to do than just running about on his mounts.

@Xar.1387 said:Whatever. Delete this post, please.

Strange - I could swear you used to be able to delete your comments but I can't seem to find a way to delete mine either. O.o

@Ojimaru.8970 said:Also let's play a game of meta events I can name off the top of my head, per map:

Crystal OasisCasino Blitz and Pinata

Elon RiverlandsAugury RockDeadhouse

DesolationMaws of Torment

Domain of VabbiForged FoundrySerpent's Ire

The Buried Treasure map-wide event in Desert Highlands isn't a meta event, but the Superior Buried Treasures reward exclusive loot.

None of these metas are worth doing more than once just to experience them. Maybe Casino Blitz if you like minis (which I don't). And the rest aren't fun enough and/or don't reward enough to be worth my time.

The big problem I see in PoF is the lack of player interaction via mapchat. Like no Tags, no Zerg, few shout outs. The maps all have fun stuff to do but the lack of communication makes it seem otherwise. I've noticed when one of the maps comes up in the daily "do 4 events in this map" everyone is into it more and having a lot of fun.

@ArcanistSeven.8720 said:this is by far my least favorite expansion everything is way over tuned way worse than HoT was and with the amount of condi's getting spammed out Its just not fun to play, i stopped playing WvW because of the condi's during HoT now kitten been cranked to 11 with PoF. Now that i dont play WvW or PvP (because balance is the worst its ever been) the only place left is PvE but theres hardly anything to do in PoF if you've done it once already, for an expansion all about content there's very little of it unless the loot box mount skins are the content Anet was talking about so i guess ill comeback for living world season 4 but if nothing changes im gonna go give WoW a try they got a new Xpac coming. i do love all the new specializations though all except dead eye that was dead before it came out.

Different strokes, I guess.I'm strictly PvE and compared to HoT I find PoF really awesome. I enjoy going back there (for the most part despite parts of Desolation and the East side of Vabbi).I'm not a WvW or PvP player as I personally find those "hard to play".While yes, online games itself is pretty much repetition... I personally find PvP and WvW way beyond what I can repeat over and over again on those same little maps.

This irks me a lot when people ask for more endgame content in the form of new raids and new dungeons. Mainly because that's the formula that every game follows, due in no small part to Blizzard's success with it in WoW. You do realize that every (in the case of WoW) dungeon from vanilla to legion is the exact same thing. Sure there are slightly different mechanics, sure the enemies and environment itself might look different but it's the same formula over and over. Grind up to level cap, grind for gear to do dungeon, grind dungeon for gear to raid, grind raid for gear to complete raid. Rinse and repeat next patch and next expansion. It works because it's just dangling a carrot in front of the hampster. but frankly I find it a little insulting.
With Guild Wars 2, and Path of Fire has kept the trend going, ArenaNet doesn't rely on the gullibility of their players to keep them on a treadmill. They instead realize that it's the same whether you have 5 dungeons or 50, and instead focus their efforts on enjoyable game play that doesn't make you feel like you HAVE to do anything. If you just want to go join a big boss battle meta event you can, you aren't required to farm for gear every expansion just to be on the cutting edge because that edge is more blurred/accessible in GW2. So no, maybe PoF doesnt deliver more meta events like we have in HoT, but if those are what you enjoyed... they're still there, in contrast to WoW where older content is made obsolete each time a new expansion or patch comes out because it's 10 levels lower./endrantReally though, the game is what you make of it, don't depend on ArenaNet to make it fun. Sure they obviously need to deliver SOMETHING but they don't have to follow every other developer either. Also try playing it less, you can burnout on any game if you play it too much.

@ArcanistSeven.8720 said:if nothing changes im gonna go give WoW a try they got a new Xpac coming.

Well, you'll be playing with what's around at the moment for a while yet. Blizzard do like to tease well in advance and they've basically only just anounced it.