nekretaal.6485 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Well do they? I'm not even complaining that my teammates no longer seem to stomp, it seems like it is now meta to ignore the stomp key altogether and just kill the downed players.Why?Power creep (increased damage for everybody) means that it's quicker to just kill downsAoE damage over time fields (mostly from scourge, but everybody has them) and conditions continue to pulse on the downed players even after they get downed, leaving them over-killed and almost dead againCleaving damage will hit anybody who tries to resurrect Pressuring the downs with damage is also safer because you can better use defenses without losing progress.Pvp chat is now full of players calling other players noobs for trying to stomp. They aren't really wrong. Why stomp if you can kill faster, safter, and cleave down ressurectors?The only exception is necromancers. Necromancers have a billion health points and a completely non threatening downed state. That's the only class that it's safe to stomp anymore.RIP stomping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooglese.4860 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I only ever stomp if I have 30 stacks of confusion on me, so whenever there's a mesmer in the area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reikken.4961 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 actuallycondis are cleared on entering downed state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nilkemia.8507 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 @reikken.4961 said:actuallycondis are cleared on entering downed stateAnd then reapplied with ease. It's not like the downed target can get them off at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flauvious.6195 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Gotta get them too stats man, downed people are free damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sismis.5390 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Um thats a myth now cause of the all aoe brainless spamm there no stomping anymore you jsut burst or cleave for aditional kills... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerivek.5740 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Scourge spamming makes stomping a death sentence more often than not. Same with rezzing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elementalist Owner.7802 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 There's also a lot of boon denial in the meta so stomping with stability is harder. Stomps are still useful in rare situations, such as when the enemy rez beats out your teams cleave, that should give you plenty of time to stomp but still, you'll need some type of invuln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morwath.9817 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Foooo, evil people always stomp Quaggan, like it would be Quaggan fault hes hurt on the floor. Don't stomp Quaggans please, we have feelings too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArthurDent.9538 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 There are still times when it is best to stomp but it really is the more all or nothing option. If you go for cleave, at least you punish anyone that attempts to res with significant aoe so that they likely die soon after even if they get the successful res. On the other hand if the stomp fails either because a res happens or the stomp is interrupted, the stomper not only failed to accomplish anything during the stomp animation, but also probably took a ton of damage. Additionally, stability stomps are exceptionally unreliable right now due to all the boon hate flying around right now, so probably the only classes that should ever be trying to stomp are things that can invuln stomp which would be mesmer, engis, and eles with focus. Bunk guard can also go for stomps if they know that there isn't anything near by that can remove the stability, otherwise cleaving is generally the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothsayer.9206 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 generally, no. i usually do not attempt to stomp in team fights - to many ways to prevent stomping in team encounters. sometimes, if I am 1v1 and attempting to hold point, i will not stomp either, and prolong the downed opponent in a downed state to keep him out of action (re-spawning) as long as I can. in situations where i could rez a teammate faster, i might attempt a stomp, but generally no stomping; it is risky many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brannigan.9831 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Its harder then ever to stomp or rez anymore. Most of the time its better to just cleave. Its yet another thing that seperates people by skill and decision making. You need to know when you should stomp or rez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ario.8964 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 In big fights it's safer to cleave. After a 1v1 or something I let them bleed out to reduce their playtime as a threat on the map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahkeus.8243 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 When I’m on Firebrand Bunker, I will stomp at times, depending on who’s around since there’s so much stab on that build. However, if there’s a good boon hate class nearby, I usually don’t risk it. When I play Daredevil, I get a good number of stomps from running Impact Strike. Since the meta is so never heavy, I find this often is better than basilisk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonstarmac.4603 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I try, but they usually die too fast. My favorite stomps: Cow, Skritt, Anniversary, and Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledavi.1803 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 funny no one mentioned stomping when you have teammates in downed state. That is what puts me in a minor rage - teammate busy button 1 spam cleaving downed opponent while I'm downed and then someone comes and stomps me. I would have been up 10 seconds ago. Rant over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faux Play.6104 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 @Morwath.9817 said:Foooo, evil people always stomp Quaggan, like it would be Quaggan fault hes hurt on the floor. Don't stomp Quaggans please, we have feelings too!Quaggen is round like soccer ball. Kick quaggen instead. They are good for fooootbul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothsayer.9206 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 @Ledavi.1803 said:funny no one mentioned stomping when you have teammates in downed state. That is what puts me in a minor rage - teammate busy button 1 spam cleaving downed opponent while I'm downed and then someone comes and stomps me. I would have been up 10 seconds ago. Rant overI don't get any credit at all? Man, that's tough love :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledavi.1803 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 @Soothsayer.9206 said:I don't get any credit at all? Man, that's tough love :) My bad!!! Full credit due... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigpapasmurf.5623 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I still stomp (I have safe stomps) where its hard to time it right to stop me. I like it, its the champs way of finishing someone off as it takes precision and skill to do it compared to cleave/AoE bomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malediktus.9250 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 maybe downed hp should be trippled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPuppy.8970 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Depends on situation, it's highly contextual, if you know another fight is incoming and you need to save your cds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murmaider.1805 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Thief here, still happily shadowstomp When there's too much aoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaper Alim.4176 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 @Malediktus.9250 said:maybe downed hp should be trippledOr maybe downstate should removed in PvP and WvW modes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feetpicenjoyer.6418 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I lose my shit if I see someone stomp these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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