sweetrules.8359 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Anet, while I understand having them for stuff like mount treats and other daily things, I really don't want anymore repeatable hearts. Like, I'm redoing world map completion on my firebrand and it's the most draining part of world map completion. And the fact that now you are now making every heart repeatable as you moved through LWS3 into PoF, it's getting tiring. If I need access to something, I'd like to unlock access and keep it, not lose it every day at reset. I like to wander from map to map doing whatever I feel, but if I decide to work on a couple achievements or something of the sort, and I suddenly have to painfully grind through a few hearts all over again just to do it, I just find tedious unnecessary grinding extremely draining. If the purpose is a timesink, I don't mind if you want a timesink somewhere, just please don't make it affect vendors of any sort if it's not event related. Im okay with map metas or large event chains that do it. I'm not okay with tedious renown hearts doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunarlife.5128 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 The ability to quickly complete hearts is really nice on areas like Sirens Landing. The grindy, time consuming, death inducing hearts aren't as fun when they have links to things that aren't worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayumi Spender.1082 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 I find two heart annoying in Siren's Landing. The Lyssa one and Dwayna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 @"Ayumi Spender.1082" said:I find two heart annoying in Siren's Landing. The Lyssa one and Dwayna.All the SL hearts can be completed by channeling Transfer Magic 2-3 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper Cutter.9376 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 All they need to do is let you access the vendor without having to do the heart again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayumi Spender.1082 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:@"Ayumi Spender.1082" said:I find two heart annoying in Siren's Landing. The Lyssa one and Dwayna.All the SL hearts can be completed by channeling Transfer Magic 2-3 times.Still for Lyssa and Dwayna.One have very little enemies to find at times and all those random teleporters doesn't help either.I've noticed that the riders don't bring up your heart at all as well.Dwayna there's very little spiders to do that with and I reaaaaaaaaaaaaally hate underwater combat that seems to have hundreds of sharks but sometimes hard to kill even at range.Unless that's not the skill I'm thinking of. Not sure what a "Grounding crystal" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 @Ayumi Spender.1082 said:@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:@Ayumi Spender.1082 said:I find two heart annoying in Siren's Landing. The Lyssa one and Dwayna.All the SL hearts can be completed by channeling Transfer Magic 2-3 times.Still for Lyssa and Dwayna.One have very little enemies to find at times and all those random teleporters doesn't help either.I've noticed that the riders don't bring up your heart at all as well.Dwayna there's very little spiders to do that with and I reaaaaaaaaaaaaally hate underwater combat that seems to have hundreds of sharks but sometimes hard to kill even at range.Unless that's not the skill I'm thinking of. Not sure what a "Grounding crystal" is.Kill a ley-line scavenger. Find a safe spot. Channel #4 and watch the "sprite" look for the grounding crystal (you don't even have to know what it is at first). Eventually, you'll find a couple of locations that allow you to manage every heart, even Lyssa & Dwayna, with 2-3 channels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costepj.5120 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Dwayna is possibly the most trivial heart in the game. Grab an artefact and glide through 5 pollution clouds; done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berelious.3290 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 How ironic. Repeatable hearts were highly requested not long ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Malone.5641 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 I love repeatable hearts as a continuous source of karma, and something to give a sense of progression on completed maps. But I do understand the frustration of having to repeat a heart in order to access the karma merchant. I choose to look at it this way: if I didn't have to repeat the heart to open the merchant to buy an achievement-related item, then ANet would have put the item behind an event or challenge that was at least as frustrating, if not more so. If the heart wasn't a repeatable challenge, then the karma shop would not be filled with desirable items to purchase. ANet doesn't like to hand players anything on a silver platter. Having to repeat a heart is a small challenge to unlock a reward. I'm really fine with that. None of the repeatable hearts are really that irritating to do, not when you compare them to some non-repeatable hearts in Central Tyria (i.e. Ash Legion stealth heart in Blazeridge Steppes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blude.6812 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 @Berelious.3290 said:How ironic. Repeatable hearts were highly requested not long ago...Repeatable -yes. But not locked until you repeat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaborkaldy.3210 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Definitely agree on this with the OP. Let us access to the merchant part if we completed them first time.I CBA re-doing them each time I need an item from them again. Good example the griffon collection items. If I have to do the Dunkoro one once again in the Desolation I will hang myself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Sed.8643 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 I'm really not a fan but I look at it this way......I want to use the services and so will do tasks around the place. If I want to use the services again tomorrow then I'll help out again.Rather than - I killed a few spiders for you 5 years ago yet still expect you to be thankful until the day that Anet shut the servers down and your world disappears around you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunarlife.5128 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 @Ayumi Spender.1082 said:I find two heart annoying in Siren's Landing. The Lyssa one and Dwayna.You wait for the shrines to be out of power and ley-line adds with 4 are really fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeardedVagabond.8136 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 @Berelious.3290 said:How ironic. Repeatable hearts were highly requested not long ago...Lol no. I could probably count using one hand the amount of people who wanted repeatable hearts. This was a thing Anet thought we wanted. Its just as bad as fetch questing in other games. Which I would rather have over this garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leablo.2651 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Keep vendors unlocked through resets.Do not reset partially completed hearts.Fix these issues and there is no problem with repeatable hearts. If you don't want to do them again, then don't. But people shouldn't be losing progress as a result of the resets. It's unnecessary and annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apharma.3741 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Just get rid of repeatable hearts, they are a terrible idea and turned me completely off living world season 3 where I have barely bothered to get an alt to map any of these places. Why should I map and complete the hearts if they won’t give me what I need when I need it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReaverKane.7598 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 While i don't mind completing hearts on paper. It's really dumb having to complete a heart only to check the price of a recipe or if that's the one that sells what i want...After doing the heart the first time, the vendor aspect of it should be permanently unlocked, and people could complete the heart for the karma and such if they wanted but not lose the ability to get the "rewards" from the initial completion (as in the ability to interact with the NPC as a vendor).TLDR: Keep repeatable hearts, make the vendor permanent after first completion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Spiro.9745 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 They fixed them in PoF. Once you've completed a heart for the first time it gets counted and it changed to a symbol with an infinity symbol. The heart may become undone at the next reset, but it continues to be counted. I think this may actually be the case in some of the later Season 3 zones, but I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReaverKane.7598 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 @Kal Spiro.9745 said:They fixed them in PoF. Once you've completed a heart for the first time it gets counted and it changed to a symbol with an infinity symbol. The heart may become undone at the next reset, but it continues to be counted. I think this may actually be the case in some of the later Season 3 zones, but I'm not sure.That's not the issue. The issue is, for example, the Griffon collections. You had to buy stuff from 2 heart vendors on each map. And even if you had done the heart previously (but not on that same day), you would have to repeat the whole heart to be able to buy stuff from the vendor. Which is annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Spiro.9745 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 @ReaverKane.7598 said:@Kal Spiro.9745 said:They fixed them in PoF. Once you've completed a heart for the first time it gets counted and it changed to a symbol with an infinity symbol. The heart may become undone at the next reset, but it continues to be counted. I think this may actually be the case in some of the later Season 3 zones, but I'm not sure.That's not the issue. The issue is, for example, the Griffon collections. You had to buy stuff from 2 heart vendors on each map. And even if you had done the heart previously (but not on that same day), you would have to repeat the whole heart to be able to buy stuff from the vendor. Which is annoying.It takes very little actual effort to fill a heart. It is a minor inconvenience at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaklex.6308 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 @Leablo.2651 said:Keep vendors unlocked through resets.Do not reset partially completed hearts.Fix these issues and there is no problem with repeatable hearts. If you don't want to do them again, then don't. But people shouldn't be losing progress as a result of the resets. It's unnecessary and annoying.Do you honestly think people would repeat the heart if the vendor stayed unlocked? Most won't, not even for the modest amount of karma you gain(as if karma was hard currency to come by). As for the reset, everything get's reset at the same time every day, so that it can be done on a daily basis...otherwise you wouldn't have daily repeatable hearts if it kept your progress upon reset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayumi Spender.1082 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 My only issue is the map guide keep leading to them.That needs to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
particlepinata.9865 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 I like the hearts. Only they should be more quickly achived there are some time consuming ones in ls 3 and pof. And certain vendor things should be unlocked after having done the heart one time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aenaos.8160 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Why,you don't thing repeating daily hearts that advance in 2% steps is not fun?Outrageous.I always find it's refreshing to have to kill 50 mobs in order to compete a quest.Heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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