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Resplendent Avialan raptor Feedback

Taking the risk of beating up a dead horse, i'll have to address the issue with this:

It's not worth 2000 gems.

Come on Arena Net... This again?
Look, here's the deal, the skin is kinda neat, and all, but it's not GREAT, i might use it on my mesmer, because mesmers are peacocky and all, but that's it...
Now do you really think that a SINGLE SKIN is worth the same amount of gems as a pack that holds an outfit + glider + back skin + dyes + Total Make Over Kit + Unique-ish weapon skin, not to mention the same value as a pack of 5 different mount skins?
Did you sell enough of the Warhound to make you think that people will buy stuff at this price? I personally saw like 3 Warhounds in-game since they were released, so i'm assuming not that many were sold.
Or is this pettiness over the feedback on the previous mount skin release?

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  • Eh, it isn't a gamblebox so at least you know what you get and then you can decide if you find it worth the cost. If not, don't buy it simply.

    If you are reading this you have finished reading my post and are now reading my signature.

  • Vavume.8065Vavume.8065 Member ✭✭✭✭

    When will they learn...

  • Healix.5819Healix.5819 Member ✭✭✭✭

    As a general rule, if the mount isn't a simple retexture or modification, it's going to cost 2000 gems. They didn't randomly choose that number, it's simply the standard price for mounts in the major MMOs.

  • Anchoku.8142Anchoku.8142 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 28, 2017

    I am sure there are people with a gross excess of gold who will exchange for the necessary gems.

    I have begun to think these mount skins are being released to consume gold.

  • Rauderi.8706Rauderi.8706 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @ReaverKane.7598 said:

    It's not worth 2000 gems.

    Someone in marketing compared cosmetic (I keep typing COSTmetic first, I wonder why...) mount costs in WoW and decided to apply that to the gem store.
    I'm just going to say, I'm not a fan of it, never was, especially because cash sales are done in lots of $10, so this is even a worse cash grab. Gotta :-1: this one, sorry.

    Still, it's a pretty skin, unique and has good color potential. Not a fan of the feathers blocking the feet; that'll mess up some precision jumps, but otherwise, it does look good, and I bet it'll get its share of sales.

    I'm just not comfortable with where this trend is going. If I had a choice between a 2000 gem single skin or 5 tickets, I would very like take my chances and still end up with 5 unique looks.

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  • Liewec.2896Liewec.2896 Member ✭✭✭

    now if they'd get their butts in gear and start making armour,
    (ARMOUR. NOT JUST BOOTS, SHOULDERS AND GLOVES)
    i'd gladly give them money...
    but it seems they really really don't want my money because they never release armour.

    2000 gems is way too much for a mount skin.

  • The new skin is lovely - good job to the artists/devs who created it. However, at 2,000 gems (aka: $35 US dollars) I will not be purchasing it. But please know that I will fully appreciate it if I see someone else using it.

    Why aren't these skins prices in line with glider skins? I've spent a lot of money in this game purchasing various skins and outfits - but I just can't justify the real dollars cost you are trying to sell these individual skins for. The opportunity cost for these is just too much.

  • Taelac.7036Taelac.7036 Member ✭✭✭

    I agree that 2000 gems for one skin is too much.

    My guess is that what we'll see for the next few months will be additional one-off purchase skins for the remaining three mounts, all at 2000 gems, and the current RNG licenses will remain, none of which I'll buy. We might see a Wintersday and/or a Lunar New Year bundle similar to the Halloween bundle, which I found entirely reasonable and bought. Those will likely be gimmicky (not necessarily bad), and whether I buy those will depend on how many dye channels they have, and how much dye choices can mute the gimmicks for everyday use.

    Once we've cycled through all the mounts for their first one-off skins, then we might see some alterations made to the One Skin For 2000 Gems/One Holiday 5-Pack For 2000 1600 Gems/One Random Skin For 400 Gems pattern, but I doubt very much that we'll see any deviation before then, and I'd be shocked to see any in-game rewards of mount skins before then, either.

    Good luck, have fun.

  • Glider AND backpack = 700.
    Mount that serves a ver similar purpose = 2,000.
    Anet showing it didn't listen again = par for the course.

    When anet charged more for the wedding outfit because it was different per race, you know... Fair enough, players don't like it but ok.
    But all races use the mout in the same manner, and we don't even get any piece we can show off constantly? Yeap, completely ignorable.

  • Lilyanna.9361Lilyanna.9361 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 28, 2017

    That's what happens when people were complaining dinky lootboxes that didn't mean squat. 400 gems to 2k gems.

    I told you people, didn't want to listen. Now time to relax in the oncoming salt. Now they are going to do what EVERY other mmo does and sell them for 25-30 dollars.

  • Nikal.4921Nikal.4921 Member ✭✭✭
    edited November 28, 2017

    I have seen one (1) Forged Warhound in-game since that mount skin was released. They can't have sold many. I have to think there's some other reason for introducing 2000 gem mount skins than making money selling them.

  • It's not RNG, so that's good. I still think a 400/600/800 or 400/800/1200 model would be received very well. It allows for a standard/enhanced/deluxe skin stratification and pricing structure that's on par with gliders. 2000 gems just doesn't fit. We can compare it to mount costs in other games, but it's never an exact comparison. These are skins, not mounts.

    The existing RNG adoption system can stick around with this pricing model too. It allows you a chance at any skin, always new, from the limited pool of options and at the base price. For those that shrug off RNG, that's not unfair. I like @Rauderi.8706's point. If you're going to price singles at 2000 gems, people may as well save up and work their way through the adoption licenses over the next few months or several years (disposable income dependent). Then again... maybe that's the point. :astonished:

    I hope they start releasing some simpler reskins with 3-4 dye slots at a 600 or 800 gem price point. They could even pull from the ones locked behind the adoption licenses as special adoption campaigns (save the animals!). That would be met with a lot of cheers.

    Let's be neighbours.

  • Anchoku.8142Anchoku.8142 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Quick math lesson.

    2000 gems buys 16 Black chest keys, which should provide 1 or 2 Black Lion claim tickets.

    How is a guaranteed mount skin that much different?

  • Apparently Anet's budget pricing structure attracts budget players.

  • Coulter.2315Coulter.2315 Member ✭✭✭

    I think if it has looked more like a Lord of Change and not had the peacock tail I may have been tempted, almost my style but just missed. I'm sure some will like it though.

    2000 gems is a lot for a single skin of a single mount, would be interesting to know how many sell. Hoping there is some more budget friendly stuff released.

  • Anela.3867Anela.3867 Member ✭✭✭

    I love it and I spend a lot of money on the gem store shinies but 2000 gems is too expensive for just one skin. I hope they reconsider their pricing.

  • Why are people so angry? Just don't buy it. I can't honestly get why you're raging over it NOW after the ugly Mecha Ram.
    Now we have an ugly Turkey/chicken/Peacock that can't tell if it's doing a threatening look/mating dance (feathers up in the air on the head) or if it's just all calm and natural (feathers are buttcape street-sweeper mode in the back).

    Simply don't buy it and speak with your wallet if you do like it. Maybe a sale/discount/price change will come?
    Or maybe the whole deal of "Well a few of you already bought it so we don't want to discourage those early adopters of the new mount skin so we won't change it... but we won't do it again......... okay we will as the 1st Mecha Ram worked and no one said Skritt".

  • Pockethole.5031Pockethole.5031 Member ✭✭
    edited November 28, 2017

    It looks like some kind of turkey-peacock-raptor mash-up. Well, maybe someone will buy it. =)
    Also too many ppl take this too personally. I can't even afford Total Makeover Kit let alone PoF and you have rich-people problems. Calm your kitten.

  • Oglaf.1074Oglaf.1074 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Nikal.4921 said:
    I have seen one (1) Forged Warhound in-game since that mount skin was released. They can't have sold many. I have to think there's some other reason for introducing 2000 gem mount skins than making money selling them.

    That's because items with this kind of pricing is not aimed towards average players like you and me. They are aimed at the so-called "whales" which are the very, very small minority of players that freemium economies prey upon. They're not meant for us.

    Please Anet give us a hide Chest Armour-option. Tattoo-clad Norns everywhere beg of you.

  • Bloodstealer.5978Bloodstealer.5978 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Well.. hate to say we told ya so to all those whining about the adopt licence system.. you had the opportunity to buy skins over a period of time for 400 gems each safe in the knowledge that you would never get duplicates and an increasing chance to get the skin you most desired out of the packs.
    Now it seems increasingly likely that all were going to see is a constant stream of high price skins of no better quality than what the packs offered...

    2000 gems for a single skin is simply crazy silly, so yeah like others have said... I will do my talking with my wallet.

    Enjoy!

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  • @Oglaf.1074 said:

    @Bloodstealer.5978 said:
    you had the opportunity to buy skins over a period of time for 400 gems each

    No that is blatantly false.

    We had the opportunity to gamble for skins at 400 Gems per "spin".

    Nice trying to blame the players for Anet's terrible business practices as of late though. Super class act, man. This insane pricing is in no way or form the "fault" of the playerbase.

    The mount adoption license is not gambling. Gambling implies that something of value could be won. Nothing of value could be won with the mount adoption. Nothing recieved was worth even 1 penny.

  • Rococo.8347Rococo.8347 Member ✭✭✭

    It looks like Avocado toast being the culprit of Millennials still living in their parents basement, unable to buy a house, has a new pretender - the slightly less than an expansion pack Mount ;)

  • Oglaf.1074Oglaf.1074 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 28, 2017

    @DarcShriek.5829 said:

    @Oglaf.1074 said:

    @Nikal.4921 said:
    I have seen one (1) Forged Warhound in-game since that mount skin was released. They can't have sold many. I have to think there's some other reason for introducing 2000 gem mount skins than making money selling them.

    That's because items with this kind of pricing is not aimed towards average players like you and me. They are aimed at the so-called "whales" which are the very, very small minority of players that freemium economies prey upon. They're not meant for us.

    It's not aimed at whales. It's just aimed at people that spend more money on the game than you. Not everyone that spends more money on than you is a whale. Not even close.

    Also your "prey upon" comment was offensive to people the people that buy ANet's products. Many of these people have money because they are smart. This is just how they enjoy spending their money.

    1) It is clearly a luxury item aimed at whales. Painfully so. 2000 Gems (i.e 30 US dollars+) for a single mount skin? Yeah. Don't even try to argue otherwise. As many other people have mentioned, they've only seen one or two of these mounts in the game since they have been released. Whalebait.

    2) I don't give a kitten about who I "offend" frankly. Offense is always taken, not given. That is simply how freemium economies work - it preys on the whales to support itself. Look it up yourself - I'm merely stating the factual and obvious, here. Don't shoot the messanger (or try and silence him with your "SO OFFENSIVE!"-garbage).

    Please Anet give us a hide Chest Armour-option. Tattoo-clad Norns everywhere beg of you.

  • I think it's beautiful. But I don't like the tail. For 2000 gems i'd need to love it to buy it. And to be fair, it's not just a cheap reskin with new dye channels. It looks like a brand new mount that's built on the raptor base.

    You guys asked for this so this is what you get. A higher price but you know what you are getting. No RNG involved.

  • @DarcShriek.5829 said:

    @Oglaf.1074 said:

    @Nikal.4921 said:
    I have seen one (1) Forged Warhound in-game since that mount skin was released. They can't have sold many. I have to think there's some other reason for introducing 2000 gem mount skins than making money selling them.

    That's because items with this kind of pricing is not aimed towards average players like you and me. They are aimed at the so-called "whales" which are the very, very small minority of players that freemium economies prey upon. They're not meant for us.

    It's not aimed at whales. It's just aimed at people that spend more money on the game than you. Not everyone that spends more money on than you is a whale. Not even close.

    Also your "prey upon" comment was offensive to people the people that buy ANet's products. Many of these people have money because they are smart. This is just how they enjoy spending their money.

    In my opinion, I don't see how GW2 could be all that attractive to whales. There just isn't that much to spend money on. It's kind of small potatoes in my opinion.

    He says, offending anyone that doesnt have money. Sorry my kid needed surgery and I decided to pay for it rather than let her suffer and die, I guess. Makes me hella dumb. Youre right.

  • DarcShriek.5829DarcShriek.5829 Member ✭✭✭
    edited November 28, 2017

    @Oglaf.1074 said:

    @DarcShriek.5829 said:

    @Oglaf.1074 said:

    @Nikal.4921 said:
    I have seen one (1) Forged Warhound in-game since that mount skin was released. They can't have sold many. I have to think there's some other reason for introducing 2000 gem mount skins than making money selling them.

    That's because items with this kind of pricing is not aimed towards average players like you and me. They are aimed at the so-called "whales" which are the very, very small minority of players that freemium economies prey upon. They're not meant for us.

    It's not aimed at whales. It's just aimed at people that spend more money on the game than you. Not everyone that spends more money on than you is a whale. Not even close.

    Also your "prey upon" comment was offensive to people the people that buy ANet's products. Many of these people have money because they are smart. This is just how they enjoy spending their money.

    1) It is clearly a luxury item aimed at whales. Painfully so. 2000 Gems (i.e 30 US dollars+) for a single mount skin? Yeah. Don't even try to argue otherwise.

    2) I don't give a kitten about who I "offend" frankly. Offense is always taken, not given. That is simply how freemium economies work - it preys on the whales to support itself. Look it up on the Google machine.

    $20.00 is no where near whale range. $20 is less than I make in half and hour. Someone that spends $100.00 a month on a game is not a whale. They barely get noticed by companies.

  • Oglaf.1074Oglaf.1074 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @DarcShriek.5829 said:

    @Oglaf.1074 said:

    @Bloodstealer.5978 said:
    you had the opportunity to buy skins over a period of time for 400 gems each

    No that is blatantly false.

    We had the opportunity to gamble for skins at 400 Gems per "spin".

    Nice trying to blame the players for Anet's terrible business practices as of late though. Super class act, man. This insane pricing is in no way or form the "fault" of the playerbase.

    The mount adoption license is not gambling. Gambling implies that something of value could be won. Nothing of value could be won with the mount adoption. Nothing recieved was worth even 1 penny.

    Hahaha, no. It is gambling in every sense of the word. Technically and legally it isn't gambling (because the law is slow to catch up) but... yeah, we all know it is gambling.

    The fact that you're getting a crappy "Win every time!"-consolation price doesn't make it any less so. It is like those carneval games where they have all the big and impressive stuffed toys all over their stand, only for your "Win every time!" prize is a little keychain.

    Please Anet give us a hide Chest Armour-option. Tattoo-clad Norns everywhere beg of you.

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