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So... CANTHA? Would you like to explore Cantha in the next expansion!?

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  • Yes. It is time.

    I would love to see cantha, but less human centric, if Tengu become a race then yes.
    Actually, I expect Arena.net one day to pick-up on the gimmick of underwater combat, other than hearts, vistas, pois, hp's and fractals there's barely anything to do underwater, we need underwater expansion, underwater mounts, more underwater weapons, more nuance, free six dimensional swimming, areas, underwater pvp and wvw, dungeons.... come ooooon.

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  • Yes. It is time.

    I remember Fort Aspenwood moba style gameplay fondly. A mixed PVE/PVP map where players either attacked or defended supported by an army of npc's. I would like to see this coming back to GW2. No grouping just click a button to be added to the queue and join the fight.

  • Aeolus.3615Aeolus.3615 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 5, 2017
    Not for the next expansion. Perhaps sometime in the future.

    @endurio.7065 said:
    I remember Fort Aspenwood moba style gameplay fondly. A mixed PVE/PVP map where players either attacked or defended supported by an army of npc's. I would like to see this coming back to GW2. No grouping just click a button to be added to the queue and join the fight.

    issue is FA was kurzik vs luxons, now there are none of those, since the emperor vanquished both factions and closed the continent after expeling the birds people (Avicara's and tengu's)
    Tks poring for remind me the tengus name :P

  • Astralporing.1957Astralporing.1957 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Not for the next expansion. Perhaps sometime in the future.

    @Zacchary.6183 said:
    Yes, with Tengu as a playable race.

    There are no Tengu in Cantha.

    To answer OP: There's no reason currently to go there, it would feel artificial. They'd need to close a lot of loose ends first, before they will be able to launch a completely new story arc.

    Besides, i'm not sure i want to know how badly Cantha got messed up after we've finished with it in GW1. All the "Beyond" info was not really too optimistic. I'm not really eager to see yet another proof of the actions of my GW1 hero not meaning anything at best, and being a cause of disaster at worst.

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  • Tilmanns.9602Tilmanns.9602 Member
    edited December 25, 2017
    Yes. It is time.

    I honestly don't know if it would be fitting (storywise) to go to cantha for the next expansion, since i didn't play GW2 since Heart of Thorns. But, jesus, i absolutely loved the style of Cantha in GW Factions and I am sure, with the current artstyle, the scenery would absolutely blow my mind. And don't forget about the music. I most definitely would return to enjoy that.

  • Tseison.4659Tseison.4659 Member ✭✭✭
    Yes. It is time.

    @Wretchedscar.4796 said:
    I'd definitely prefer something focused on the Non-Human races for the next Expac again. Not all of us are riding the nostalgia train, I'd like to see some fresh new things, explore paths yet untread...

    Who am I kidding, I just want MOAR CHARR things. I love them, I want more on their society, see what kind of chaos is happening back home, away from Ascalon

    I have to agree with this. As much as I voted yes to go back to Cantha, if it won’t be possible then I’d rather them focus on an expansion for the other races and their conflicts with their counter parts. The wardens vs the nightmare court, norn vs svanir etc...

  • Taygus.4571Taygus.4571 Member ✭✭✭
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    Need a "don't really care", option.
    I'm not fussed what Area is in the next expansion.

  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Not for the next expansion. Perhaps sometime in the future.

    Like a lot of other people it seems I'd rather go somewhere new first.

    I want Cantha eventually, but only because I eventually want all of Tyria in the game. I don't think we need another nostalgia trip yet, and if they do Cantha it'd have to be a nostalgia trip or people will complain.

    Expanding the map for PoF added a lot of new Land east of Ascalon which we know nothing about. I'd rather go there first.

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  • Yes. It is time.

    I loved Factions and would be thrilled for a Cantha expansion. Especially if there were playable Tengu.

  • Crab Fear.1624Crab Fear.1624 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Yes. It is time.

    Someplace we haven't been before..lol...like 250-300 years hasn't changed what it's like....HELL YES CANTHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • No, we explored Cantha enough in GW 1.

    No, absolutely not. If we never go back to Cantha it’ll be too soon. As an Asian-American, my encounters with racist weeabos and “fried eggs” back in GW1 Factions is enough to permanently turn me off to any western interpretation othe Far East.

  • eoz.1834eoz.1834 Member ✭✭
    No. We have other, more significant places to explore.

    I would log to gw1, If I care much about gw1 zones. I had hope having LS3 maps and POF takes places in Janthir area along with "butchered" Mursaat lore but they gave us Elona expansion due to gw1 fanboys nostalgia demand. But, I keep my hopes for getting Charr&Norn expansion; Blood legion homelands area and North shiverpeaks.

  • Randulf.7614Randulf.7614 Member ✭✭✭✭

    There is no need to convince Anet. They will be aware of the enormous thread on the previous forum which went on for 4 years - possibly the most posted in thread or least longest lasting. If they can find a way to bring it back, they absolutely will.

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  • lokh.2695lokh.2695 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 26, 2017
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    I'd rather have them explore something new or tighten up loose ends GW2 already left behind. If you're going to argue with WP from years ago, I might as well argue with WP from a few weeks back when I say, maybe it's time GW2 became its own game with its own mysteries and stories instead of having to constantly rehash, re-establish and reassure GW1 stuff. I haven't played GW1, so I can't be nostaligic about anything there and I believe the ppl who were there at the time, that it was a good time and that it felt great and all. But GW1 also was a game with only one playable race for example, all GW1 lore is human lore. In GW2 we have five playable races, each deserving the same share of GW2 lore.

    Edit: Also the setup for the poll is not helping with answering the question raised. Where all votes for "Yes" are funneled into a single number for percantage of votes, the votes for "No" are spread among three options to chose from. "Other" just makes no sense in answering a Y/N question and is mostly used to give another negative vote. Nice try ;)

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  • Yes and no.
    Yes, because of course I want to go to cantha... My main happens to hail from cantha and her name is a lineage from cantha in gw1. Also, tengu? Sure, why not.... But there's gotta be some continuity coming from the dominion of winds before we go there. Also, it would be a nice way to introduce gvg, coming directly from the Luzon vs kurzick war. And then there's bubbles, aka DSD, aka "Steve". We have had enough hints about the DSD.... Time for it to put up or shut up.
    Now my reason for a big resounding no.
    If we head into cantha, chances are really good it's going to be another human-centric story. The asura and Charr and norn have been primed and ready for their time in the spotlight. Especially the Charr and norn. We NEED to see the other races of tyria get to be in the forefront, if anything, because it's only fair. Blood legion homelands. Going back home for the norn. Putting Jormag in his place. And closing the holes in the lore.

  • arenta.2953arenta.2953 Member ✭✭✭
    Yes. It is time.

    yes! sooner the better

    @Chadramar.8156 said:
    Definitely not. And I particularly do not want another exclusively human-themed expansion right after this exclusively human-themed expansion. The norn and especially the charr are desperately overdue for some time in the spotlight, and I mean proper time in the spotlight, setting and lore and story and and characters and gear (!) and all, not completely shoved aside like sylvari were in "their" expansion after Verdant Brink.

    The devs can't just bank on GW1-nostalgia, especially since this game has multiple playable races.

    except Cantha was rather large for the Tengu, not to mention Naga.

    while it was a literal hive of human activity near the coast(with a city built up like Kowloon Walled City) the further east you went, the less humanity. and the more Tengu/Centaurs/Naga .

    another thing is, humanity used to populate the entire surface world. the norn are small. and the charr are recent.
    so new areas won't have much in the way of lore for the 2 of them that we don't already have.

    Charr
    Prior to Ascalon's fall, the Charr didn't really have much in the way of lasting structures or history. what history they did have was told in stories and thus didn't leave an impact on the world.

    Norn, while norn do likely have some remnants in the north. as we've seen from the remains of the Eye on the North. they haven't stood the test of time well. and if the Eye of the North has faired so poorly, its unlikely the nomadic Norn structures have survived at all.

    any expansion we have to new lands will either be human remains, or wild land with no sign of past civilizations prior to the charr's invasion of Ascalon.

  • Yes. It is time.

    I had to log in to comment on this because I notice a bunch of new people and possibly old players that are oblivious to what content they have played and gw lore. Im no lore genius, but I played gw since Factions came out. and Gw2 since beta. First off Cantha felt like home to me. Here's the wiki so I wont bore you with my explanations of the place. https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cantha & https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Cantha

    I found it the most enjoyable content to date. Which is Including gw2 (but pof was/is interesting so far because I think Nightfall was pretty cool). Seems we've almost come full circle on the lore aspect of the game. And have pretty much covered all of Tyria, 3 fold.. and somewhat backwards, Which always made me anticipate that Cantha would eventually make a return. As for Humans, it would be kinda off topic to make an expansion based around a different race since gw is so human dominant. Although they wasnt the dominant race to start with. To people saying they need to explore more of the Norn or Charr, We've all been all over Ascalon, Elona, all of Tyria for going on 2 decades with only a brief layover on the Canthan island. Theres no more to explore with the Charr, we know their story, where theyre from, what they do. Theres not much else to know. Other than Rytloks time in the Mists to become a Revenant, that was kind of random. Maybe we could all go to the Mists and have the best of both worlds?
    The Norn, we had Eye of the North in gw1 which Norn'ed me to death. Then as a playable race in gw2 and learned more about Jora, Eir, Braham, etc. Theyre pretty much the dwarves of the shiverpeaks now. What we dont have or havent had much interaction with (although a few quests and interactions in gw2) are with the Dwarves. But according to lore, only the stone dwarves would be around in the current timeline unless the asura had some waygate to send us back in time. Which anything is possible in the world of game development. Monk and Ritualist class lore has barely been touched on like most elite specs, But there has been nods to the history with certain class specs and books or npcs here and there as of late.
    TBH im quite sick of risen, undead, elder dragons, branded, destroyers and mordrem. The Balthazar fight was at least a nice change back to the good old days of fighting a singular antagonist boss. (Abaddon, Shiro, or even Kanaxai ) Although, fighting his herald and himself many times throughout the story was redundant and annoying. I do miss the world bosses in gw1 with the glowing aura based on their class. So yea. Give me Cantha, monks, rits, slums and sewers, asian culture, dark gothic atmospheres of Echovald Forest, moody music, statue blessings, some dragon moss, kirin, Am-Fah to kill with a stack of rice wine red bean cakes with a modernized Shing Jea boardwalk and Canthan New Year and i'll die totally satisfied. :)

  • Crab Fear.1624Crab Fear.1624 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Yes. It is time.

    I just hope when we go back to Cantha..the thief gets all the ritualist skills ...muahahhahahaaa!

  • Noa.7490Noa.7490 Member ✭✭✭
    Not for the next expansion. Perhaps sometime in the future.

    I know we're all eager to go back to Cantha but remember that the Korean overlords have nixed the idea straight in the egg. That's why what was supposed to be the Canthan district in Divinity's Reach has been changed to the Crown Pavilion. Unfortunately in that matter the hands of Anet are pretty tied up.

  • Fenom.9457Fenom.9457 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Not for the next expansion. Perhaps sometime in the future.

    @jciardha.1936 said:
    No, absolutely not. If we never go back to Cantha it’ll be too soon. As an Asian-American, my encounters with racist weeabos and “fried eggs” back in GW1 Factions is enough to permanently turn me off to any western interpretation othe Far East.

    What? I never played it but have spent many many hours hearing about it and reading the wiki, it seemed ok to me. This is also the first person I've ever heard complain, aside from ncsoft supposedly saying no canthan district because of political reasons. In any case, due to the previously mentioned political tension around 2012, they'd be extra aware this time around

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  • Not for the next expansion. Perhaps sometime in the future.

    I'm not against Cantha, however, I'd much rather have an expansion that focuses on another race. HoT was sylvari and PoF was humans. An expansion focusing on the charr, asura, or norn is in order to maintain a balance to not favor humans.

  • Ardenwolfe.8590Ardenwolfe.8590 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 26, 2017
    Not for the next expansion. Perhaps sometime in the future.

    They also said there would also never be expansions and mounts. So. . . .

    No longer posting or playing.

  • Emprer.7256Emprer.7256 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 26, 2017
    Yes. It is time.

    yes. would love to see asian inspired elite specs and scenery.

  • Bast Bow.2958Bast Bow.2958 Member ✭✭
    edited December 26, 2017
    Yes. It is time.

    @Finding Sanity.1283 said:
    I had to log in to comment on this because I notice a bunch of new people and possibly old players that are oblivious to what content they have played and gw lore. Im no lore genius, but I played gw since Factions came out. and Gw2 since beta. First off Cantha felt like home to me. Here's the wiki so I wont bore you with my explanations of the place. https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cantha & https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Cantha

    I found it the most enjoyable content to date. Which is Including gw2 (but pof was/is interesting so far because I think Nightfall was pretty cool). Seems we've almost come full circle on the lore aspect of the game. And have pretty much covered all of Tyria, 3 fold.. and somewhat backwards, Which always made me anticipate that Cantha would eventually make a return. As for Humans, it would be kinda off topic to make an expansion based around a different race since gw is so human dominant. Although they wasnt the dominant race to start with. To people saying they need to explore more of the Norn or Charr, We've all been all over Ascalon, Elona, all of Tyria for going on 2 decades with only a brief layover on the Canthan island. Theres no more to explore with the Charr, we know their story, where theyre from, what they do. Theres not much else to know. Other than Rytloks time in the Mists to become a Revenant, that was kind of random. Maybe we could all go to the Mists and have the best of both worlds?
    The Norn, we had Eye of the North in gw1 which Norn'ed me to death. Then as a playable race in gw2 and learned more about Jora, Eir, Braham, etc. Theyre pretty much the dwarves of the shiverpeaks now. What we dont have or havent had much interaction with (although a few quests and interactions in gw2) are with the Dwarves. But according to lore, only the stone dwarves would be around in the current timeline unless the asura had some waygate to send us back in time. Which anything is possible in the world of game development. Monk and Ritualist class lore has barely been touched on like most elite specs, But there has been nods to the history with certain class specs and books or npcs here and there as of late.
    TBH im quite sick of risen, undead, elder dragons, branded, destroyers and mordrem. The Balthazar fight was at least a nice change back to the good old days of fighting a singular antagonist boss. (Abaddon, Shiro, or even Kanaxai ) Although, fighting his herald and himself many times throughout the story was redundant and annoying. I do miss the world bosses in gw1 with the glowing aura based on their class. So yea. Give me Cantha, monks, rits, slums and sewers, asian culture, dark gothic atmospheres of Echovald Forest, moody music, statue blessings, some dragon moss, kirin, Am-Fah to kill with a stack of rice wine red bean cakes with a modernized Shing Jea boardwalk and Canthan New Year and i'll die totally satisfied. :)

    It seems you think about it the exact same way I do, lore-wise I had figured the same. And you're an gw1 vet as well :).
    It would fit going to Cantha next. From all the dragons we've faced so far, I believe the only one left is the underwater dragon, which is supposed to roam around cantha regions if I'm not mistaking. I wonder though if this would make it a more underwater themed expansion then. And I wonder if an underwater themed expansion would be something Anet would want, though. Also I'm wondering if the playerbase would fancy something like it. Underwater doesn't seem like a popular place to be amongst the player-base.
    The crowded, multi-level streets of kaineng and other cities however, would be a nice addition to what we have in GW2, I think. We already have the vast, dry and large landscapes of elona, HoT-jungles, shiverpeaks etc. An asian themed expansion would be something really nice imo.
    Cantha is my favorite expansion of gw 1 as well, allthough I can imagine other people wanting something else (for now), the nostalgia of Cantha really wins it over for me. Starting on the relatively calm shing-yaaay! island, going to the crowded busy cities on the mainland with the nasty afflicted, towards the damp, dark old forests of the kurzicks in echovald, jade sea wasn't my cup of tea though. Oh, and Ritualists! Aaahh. And please, Tengu when Cantha comes!

  • Ayakaru.6583Ayakaru.6583 Member ✭✭✭✭
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    I’d love to go back to Cantha, and I honestly believe we’ll get there eventually. But no point in going there before the story guides us. At the moment we have more reasons to explore Vabbi and Kourna, as well as the Woodland Cascades and Far Shiverpeaks.

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    Zhaitan reunites lost ones, primordus creates fertile land, mordremoth spreads the green, and jormag..
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  • Ayakaru.6583Ayakaru.6583 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 26, 2017
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    @Brimstone.3807 said:
    I'd rather not retread old ground. I'd be more interested in new places.

    So you disliked Path of Fire?

    To defeat the dragons, see the good in them.
    Zhaitan reunites lost ones, primordus creates fertile land, mordremoth spreads the green, and jormag..
    ..jormag? Who's that?

  • Ayakaru.6583Ayakaru.6583 Member ✭✭✭✭
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    @Ariurotl.3718 said:
    No, I don't want another human-centric expansion, Elona was monotone and bland enough as it is.

    Cantha doesn’t have to be.
    The coastal city of kaineng is mostly human, but with the melting of the Jade Sea the Naga might return. And there’s the Wardens in the west. Cantha’s only as human as the writers will make it.
    Xenophobia/totaliarism will have made the Kaineng and Bukdeck mostly human, but I wonder how easily the empire could’ve expanded beyond the Echovald and Jade Sea. Those lands are not exactly hospitable.
    And I also believe Cantha would make for a great Empire story.
    1. DSD corrupted the empire as a puppet nation.
    2. DSD is tamed or killed by the great and mighty empire.
    3. The empire is subject to civil war at large scale.

    And I have this headcannon fanfiction where Zhu Hanuku is the DSD champion, because even in its frail weak state the luxons needed magical relics to fight it, and couldn’t kill it at all.

    To defeat the dragons, see the good in them.
    Zhaitan reunites lost ones, primordus creates fertile land, mordremoth spreads the green, and jormag..
    ..jormag? Who's that?

  • no, im done exploring in this game

  • Other (I might explain my choice in the comments)

    Here are my thoughts on this:

    I would love to explore Cantha. I would also like to explore a good many other places both either having been in GW1 or having been mentioned in GW1&2.

    However, that said, I don't think it's a good idea. As it is right now GW2 has too many maps. Even with megaservers many of the existing maps are frequently devoid of player presence. Every time new maps are added to the game it exacerbates this issue, fragmenting the playerbase further as new maps are added and then subsequently completed and ignored. In many cases there are no reasonable incentives in place to reward players for revisiting maps that they have completed.

    I think this is an issue that needs to be addressed as I feel that as more maps are added to the game the current playerbase is going to end up being splintered more and more. We saw it in GW1 with Prophecies, Factions, Nightfall, and Eye of the North. We are seeing it now in GW2.

  • Yes. It is time.

    Yes, it's about time already.
    Path of Fire has been a remarkable experience (much better than HoT). I would love to see that kind of love for the small details and old players with Cantha.

    So please, please, make the Luxon in me be happy and let me walk on Cavalon's streets once again.

  • Yes. It is time.

    YES YES YES Cantha is my favorite area.

  • Yes. It is time.

    Bring it back pls:) Maybe the Devs. can put ingame rumors (We can hear some news from newly arrived shipwrecked sailors from Cantha)

  • No. We have other, more significant places to explore.

    I can take it or leave it.
    I just don't want another MP track or Travel scroll/book.
    But I wouldn't mind finding new mounts or adding abilities to the ones we already have.

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    No I dont trust them to do it right, story wise they would kitten it up so freaking hard because of how racist the entire continent is and we cant have that in hello kitty online 2. I would rather them take us somewhere we have not ever been then mess up the place that I started my guild wars journey back in GW1; I dont feel like they would offer everything I would want in a factions experience. Based on PoF which was a kitten-show for the story department, I really just want them to quit trying to tell a tale in their game because the lore and the story are becoming completely ridiculous. Id rather go farther north than we have ever been to be honest, or return to the eye of the north areas as they have relevance to the current narrative.

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    Looks like a reboot of Mists of Pandaria, but instead of Pandas we get Tengu... pass!

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  • Not for the next expansion. Perhaps sometime in the future.

    No, because it would once again focus primarily on humans. With perhaps some sylvari in the form of wardens. I'd like the lore spotlight shine on Norn and Charr and elaborate on them.

  • Trise.2865Trise.2865 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Not for the next expansion. Perhaps sometime in the future.

    Tyria is a big planet. We have access to relatively safe travel between dimensions, not to mention we're on the verge of spaceflight. If we want to go somewhere, there's no reason to go to a place that doesn't want its own people, let alone visitors. "I", the Commander, might respond to a cry for help from within Cantha someday (Help me, Pact Commander! you're my only hope!).

    Basically, I'd like more Star Trek; less Star Wars right now.

    If we want ANet to step up their game, then we must step up ours.

  • Tasida.4085Tasida.4085 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 28, 2017
    Yes. It is time.

    Just like with LS1 they have stated they wont be going back there. They said this back at launch as well. Cantha is sadly lost to us pretty much unless we go play GW1. I wouldn't want to see LS1 again but Cantha will always be welcome.

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  • Mal.1670Mal.1670 Member ✭✭
    Not for the next expansion. Perhaps sometime in the future.

    I'd only see Cantha being relevant to the story if the Deep Sea Dragon surfaced and attacked for some reason, otherwise why would we go there? They could come up with something, but it might be a stretch...

  • I have positive memories of the Jade Sea, but I remember hating Kaineng City for some reason. :/

  • rylien.3824rylien.3824 Member ✭✭
    edited December 28, 2017
    Yes. It is time.

    Oh yes, I'm for Cantha! In this way, we close the human history once and for all, and it is also more logical to do after Elona, ​​to adapt the events, and the announcement of news about the gods.

  • Fenom.9457Fenom.9457 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Not for the next expansion. Perhaps sometime in the future.

    By the way, there's a bit of altered dialogue for human female revenants. Shiro asks about cantha, and like all races and genders, the response is "we don't know, they closed themselves off basically". But then... for human females there's a line that says I HOPE TO FIND OUT MYSELF SOMEDAY! Keep in mind this would have been added with HoT in 2015 most likely (couldn't have been sooner at least), which indicates they considered cantha sometime after the things they said at launch. Now I will think it we should get a few more xpacs on tyrian supercontinent before we even CONSIDER cantha but I do want to go someday

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  • Noa.7490Noa.7490 Member ✭✭✭
    Not for the next expansion. Perhaps sometime in the future.

    Ah, Cantha, yes, I know a lot of people would love to see Cantha again it but unfortunately NCSoft (aka the Korean Overlords) have made it very clear that it will not happen so I really don't know why this subject keeps resurfacing every now and then.

  • TheWolf.1602TheWolf.1602 Member ✭✭✭
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    I don't care either way, probably because I haven't played GW1...

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