Branded Awakened / Awakened Branded?

Can Kralkatorrik brand awakened? Can Joko awaken the branded? Whose magic is more powerful? Who controls a branded awakened or an awakened branded? I imagine Joko can't be pleased that Kralkatorrik is wreaking havok on his domain. And I assume Kralkatorrik just doesn't even register Joko as an thought at all.

Whose magic is more powerful.Lord Joko's or Lord Joko minion's ?

You know the answer \o

Serious, Joko was less powerful than balthazar, which was less powerful than a dragon.Kralk has now part of the power of Zaithan, Mordremoth and Balthazar itself i guess... but joko has an endless army ( which could be harder to fight for the captain and his Lackeis

This is probably a better fit for the lore section.

I imagine that Kralk's magic is significantly more powerful than Joko's is though

It seems like they're mutually exclusive. Both involve corrupting a living creature. But once you go down one path, you can't go the other way too. Just like a Risen can't be turned into an Icebrood, or vice-versa.

Looks like you got transferred over from the main forums, but we've [http://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/18929/kralkatorrik-s-powers-spoilers](just been talking about this) and it turns out that there are Branded Awakened that fight for Kralky.

well it depends. Joko's magic is quite powerful but it's also in all likelihood human magic, and human magic can be overpowered by the raw strength of an elder dragon. moreover kralkatorrik has some of Zhaitan's power which likely means it can actually utilize the awakened as a resource for its armies. had this been an issue of two dragon minions i would say it's even, but in this case they may be awakened but awakening is not the same thing as dragon corruption which seeks to transform the affected utterly - awakening only raises them with varying restrictions to their consciousness and an absolute obedience to palawa joko, much like how necros raise minions to do 'their' commands.

If you allied with Awakened in early PoF storyline you will see Branded Awakened in Eye of the Brandstorm instance.

@Konig Des Todes.2086 said:If you allied with Awakened in early PoF storyline you will see Branded Awakened in Eye of the Brandstorm instance.

oh true, i forgot that happened.

I guess palawa joko better stay well away from kralky or else he might be a new branded dragon champion.

@Carlin Sanders.3587 said:awakening only raises them with varying restrictions to their consciousness and an absolute obedience to palawa jokoNot even the last one. As GW1 has shown, at least some of the minions are capable of independent thought and rebelling. He needed the gw1 hero's help in putting down his former generals and regaining control over the armies, he was unable to just order them into obedience.

@Carlin Sanders.3587 said:well it depends. Joko's magic is quite powerful but it's also in all likelihood human magic, and human magic can be overpowered by the raw strength of an elder dragon. moreover kralkatorrik has some of Zhaitan's power which likely means it can actually utilize the awakened as a resource for its armies. had this been an issue of two dragon minions i would say it's even, but in this case they may be awakened but awakening is not the same thing as dragon corruption which seeks to transform the affected utterly - awakening only raises them with varying restrictions to their consciousness and an absolute obedience to palawa joko, much like how necros raise minions to do 'their' commands.

If granted enough magic to retain sapience, dragon minions still remember the things that were important to them before corruption - it's just that they're all subservient to serving the dragon. We see this in Edge of Destiny, where a Branded ogre chieftain still wants revenge for his children that were killed before the Dragonrise. It probably also explains somewhat why sapient dragon minions often return to and attempt to convert the people of the settlements they came from - they want to be with the people they knew prior to being corrupted, and the best way to achieve this while also serving the dragon is to bring those people into the fold.

@Astralporing.1957 said:

@Carlin Sanders.3587 said:awakening only raises them with varying restrictions to their consciousness and an absolute obedience to palawa jokoNot even the last one. As GW1 has shown, at least some of the minions

are

capable of independent thought and rebelling. He needed the gw1 hero's help in putting down his former generals and regaining control over the armies, he was unable to just order them into obedience.