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  • Trevor Boyer.6524Trevor Boyer.6524 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 18, 2018
    No, it's not needed. GW 2 should just continue with expansions and patches.

    The GW2 engine is great already, it just needs some love & attention. Besides that, the thing that I like the best about mmorpgs is that they generally tend to last 10+ years before there is any serious sequel. This allows me as an older gamer, to invest time into that one game that I chose to play and actually be good at it before a new title comes out and I have to remaster another game, again. It becomes difficult to learn new games as you get older due to a number of reasons and that is actually why I quit console games.

    At this point, GW2 will probably be the last mmorpg or even game in general, that I play seriously. I'd just like to see them do more with the engine. Maybe devise a really powerful super expansion and commercialize it heavily to reintroduce GW2 into the current. If a GW3 does arrive, I probably wouldn't buy it, despite how good it was.

  • Fallesafe.5932Fallesafe.5932 Member ✭✭✭
    Yes, when the time is right.

    @Cyrin.1035 said:
    Should the GW series continue with an entirely new sequel? Or should GW 2 simply continue with expansions?

    Some want a new and more advanced graphics engine. Some want new or more races and professions to be explored. There are so many possibilities for a GW 3, but is GW 2 enough to expand on and if it is, what does that mean for its longevity?

    I personally would like to see GW 2 end its major releases after a third expansion rounding out a trilogy of expansions for GW 2. Then I want it to ultimately end its storyline on Living World Season 5 leading up to GW 3. It could set us up for GW 3 the way GW 1 did for 2.

    I want to see the graphics of GW 2 advance again as it did between 1 and 2. I want Expansion 3 to open us to new lands and stories but not necessarily so many years after the events of GW 2. New features, character models, wardrobe and weapon skin types, item tiers, game modes, game and visual style, ect.

    Yes, absolutely. GW2 is like that pork-chop bone that you've picked every last shred of meat off of. It was the best pork-chop I ever tasted for about 8 months. Then, I just had to accept that I was holding onto a bone. The game ended for me after I got all the items I wanted, and nothing could be upgraded any further (in terms of stats or utility). I just couldn't find any compelling reason to log on anymore. And, believe me, I went through mental-gymnastics to try to find some reason. The only thing I like about these games is getting better stuff (truly better stuff -- not just new skins). And I would never play any of the content for its own sake.

    So yea, bring on GW3, and give me another 8 months of fun! ;)

  • No, it's not needed. GW 2 should just continue with expansions and patches.

    @Fallesafe.5932 said:

    @Cyrin.1035 said:
    Should the GW series continue with an entirely new sequel? Or should GW 2 simply continue with expansions?

    Some want a new and more advanced graphics engine. Some want new or more races and professions to be explored. There are so many possibilities for a GW 3, but is GW 2 enough to expand on and if it is, what does that mean for its longevity?

    I personally would like to see GW 2 end its major releases after a third expansion rounding out a trilogy of expansions for GW 2. Then I want it to ultimately end its storyline on Living World Season 5 leading up to GW 3. It could set us up for GW 3 the way GW 1 did for 2.

    I want to see the graphics of GW 2 advance again as it did between 1 and 2. I want Expansion 3 to open us to new lands and stories but not necessarily so many years after the events of GW 2. New features, character models, wardrobe and weapon skin types, item tiers, game modes, game and visual style, ect.

    Yes, absolutely. GW2 is like that pork-chop bone that you've picked every last shred of meat off of. It was the best pork-chop I ever tasted for about 8 months. Then, I just had to accept that I was holding onto a bone. The game ended for me after I got all the items I wanted, and nothing could be upgraded any further (in terms of stats or utility). I just couldn't find any compelling reason to log on anymore. And, believe me, I went through mental-gymnastics to try to find some reason. The only thing I like about these games is getting better stuff (truly better stuff -- not just new skins). And I would never play any of the content for its own sake.

    So yea, bring on GW3, and give me another 8 months of fun! ;)

    You experienced everything this game has to offer in 8 months! I would love to know how you managed that.

  • Fallesafe.5932Fallesafe.5932 Member ✭✭✭
    Yes, when the time is right.

    @Rubberduckgillespie.9854 said:

    @Fallesafe.5932 said:

    @Cyrin.1035 said:
    Should the GW series continue with an entirely new sequel? Or should GW 2 simply continue with expansions?

    Some want a new and more advanced graphics engine. Some want new or more races and professions to be explored. There are so many possibilities for a GW 3, but is GW 2 enough to expand on and if it is, what does that mean for its longevity?

    I personally would like to see GW 2 end its major releases after a third expansion rounding out a trilogy of expansions for GW 2. Then I want it to ultimately end its storyline on Living World Season 5 leading up to GW 3. It could set us up for GW 3 the way GW 1 did for 2.

    I want to see the graphics of GW 2 advance again as it did between 1 and 2. I want Expansion 3 to open us to new lands and stories but not necessarily so many years after the events of GW 2. New features, character models, wardrobe and weapon skin types, item tiers, game modes, game and visual style, ect.

    Yes, absolutely. GW2 is like that pork-chop bone that you've picked every last shred of meat off of. It was the best pork-chop I ever tasted for about 8 months. Then, I just had to accept that I was holding onto a bone. The game ended for me after I got all the items I wanted, and nothing could be upgraded any further (in terms of stats or utility). I just couldn't find any compelling reason to log on anymore. And, believe me, I went through mental-gymnastics to try to find some reason. The only thing I like about these games is getting better stuff (truly better stuff -- not just new skins). And I would never play any of the content for its own sake.

    So yea, bring on GW3, and give me another 8 months of fun! ;)

    You experienced everything this game has to offer in 8 months! I would love to know how you managed that.

    No, that's not what I said. There are a number of things I didn't do. But I have no interest in them, whatsoever, unless there are meaningful pieces of loot waiting for me on the other side. Raiding, to me, is a perfect example. There's no way I would put myself through the stress of working up that ladder for more than a year only to have the exact same armor I started with (but with ridiculous spikes on the helmet). If there was a whole new set of equipment that was to ascended what ascended was to exotic, I'd be eyeballs deep in this game right now. But there's not. So bring on GW3!

  • No, it's not needed. GW 2 should just continue with expansions and patches.

    @Fallesafe.5932 said:

    @Rubberduckgillespie.9854 said:

    @Fallesafe.5932 said:

    @Cyrin.1035 said:
    Should the GW series continue with an entirely new sequel? Or should GW 2 simply continue with expansions?

    Some want a new and more advanced graphics engine. Some want new or more races and professions to be explored. There are so many possibilities for a GW 3, but is GW 2 enough to expand on and if it is, what does that mean for its longevity?

    I personally would like to see GW 2 end its major releases after a third expansion rounding out a trilogy of expansions for GW 2. Then I want it to ultimately end its storyline on Living World Season 5 leading up to GW 3. It could set us up for GW 3 the way GW 1 did for 2.

    I want to see the graphics of GW 2 advance again as it did between 1 and 2. I want Expansion 3 to open us to new lands and stories but not necessarily so many years after the events of GW 2. New features, character models, wardrobe and weapon skin types, item tiers, game modes, game and visual style, ect.

    Yes, absolutely. GW2 is like that pork-chop bone that you've picked every last shred of meat off of. It was the best pork-chop I ever tasted for about 8 months. Then, I just had to accept that I was holding onto a bone. The game ended for me after I got all the items I wanted, and nothing could be upgraded any further (in terms of stats or utility). I just couldn't find any compelling reason to log on anymore. And, believe me, I went through mental-gymnastics to try to find some reason. The only thing I like about these games is getting better stuff (truly better stuff -- not just new skins). And I would never play any of the content for its own sake.

    So yea, bring on GW3, and give me another 8 months of fun! ;)

    You experienced everything this game has to offer in 8 months! I would love to know how you managed that.

    No, that's not what I said. There are a number of things I didn't do. But I have no interest in them, whatsoever, unless there are meaningful pieces of loot waiting for me on the other side. Raiding, to me, is a perfect example. There's no way I would put myself through the stress of working up that ladder for more than a year only to have the exact same armor I started with (but with ridiculous spikes on the helmet). If there was a whole new set of equipment that was to ascended what ascended was to exotic, I'd be eyeballs deep in this game right now. But there's not. So bring on GW3!

    Ok, fair enough.

  • If there is a GW3 then a few things from a personal perspective:

    1. More open world type mmo and make levleing a bit different then it is now. I prefer a good mix of grinding,farming, quests over just point to point free xp I win.
    2. Better class selection process(such as instead of having to pick our skills over and over let us save them as sets in a wow type fashion of spec talents.)
    3. Maybe make raids not so dependent on every person doing it perfectly and people lose interest quickly. Make them scale better for different size raids.
    4. Better group options. Right now I just say screw it and solo because everyone wants to do something different or they have already been there done that.
    5. Maybe think of adding terraforming to make GW3 a bit better. Such as a Elder dragon of ice comes into paly and you see snow and blizzards and other such effects and changes throughout the lands the dragon affects.
    6. Get rid of points of interest. I get it you want people to explore your game and maps but some of the POI's are more irritating then mariah carey trying to sing at her age.
    7. Be much more responsive to fixing your game then letting it sit there. WoW just came out with a major new patch and they are already fixing a few of the mistakes and changes that caused issues and you guys are sitting here letting half of the complaints sit and hope die out.
    8. maybe a bit easier on making legendaries. I understand a only the people who try will succeed but maybe make class legendaries instead of generalized ones that can be picked for the spec/specs they want.
  • Mal.1670Mal.1670 Member ✭✭
    Other (I might explain my preference in the comments)

    Lore: it would be weird to have a sequel before the current storyline with the dragons is resolved. And then what will be the next major conflict? Elder Gods? :tongue:

    Limitations: I like to think of the remaining unused weapons for Warrior elite specs as a "countdown" to how many expansions they can release before they have to reinvent the system. Four possible left with pistol, scepter, staff, and focus, or five with offhand pistol.

    Money: if NCsoft isn't happy with the revenue GW2 expansions are pulling in, they might pressure ANet to change it up. Side note: would not be surprised if this was a major reason why they introduced the Mount Adoption Licenses... anyways, this would be the biggest reason for a GW3 IMO.

  • Maybe as a card game.

  • Ayakaru.6583Ayakaru.6583 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Yes, when the time is right.

    @Mal.1670 said:
    Lore: it would be weird to have a sequel before the current storyline with the dragons is resolved. And then what will be the next major conflict? Elder Gods? :tongue:

    Limitations: I like to think of the remaining unused weapons for Warrior elite specs as a "countdown" to how many expansions they can release before they have to reinvent the system. Four possible left with pistol, scepter, staff, and focus, or five with offhand pistol.

    Money: if NCsoft isn't happy with the revenue GW2 expansions are pulling in, they might pressure ANet to change it up. Side note: would not be surprised if this was a major reason why they introduced the Mount Adoption Licenses... anyways, this would be the biggest reason for a GW3 IMO.

    There’s prequel stories, like the traversion of the gods into Tyria. (Maybe better for a fractal, but I would love t live through Jadoth’s age).
    The fall of the demons like Rodgort.
    There was an era the Jotun were actually the Asura of their time.

    And for post dragon stories.. hmm..
    Can’t of much at the moment. I bet there’s still plenty of chaos in the mists and maybe Asura who wanna mess with the eternal alchemy. Maybe Cantha wants a shot at world domination?

    To defeat the dragons, see the good in them.
    Zhaitan reunites lost ones, primordus creates fertile land, mordremoth spreads the green, and jormag..
    ..jormag? Who's that?

  • zealex.9410zealex.9410 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 18, 2018
    Yes, when the time is right.

    It should also have a subscription fee, a new engine, dyeable weapons, no charr, dyeable backpieces, gvg, more pvp modes or a wvw with more focus on it, built templates, all the sytems that are universally considered a plus that gw2 introduced and every system from gw1 that worked/ was better than in gw2 and grear progression etc. At least for 1 type of content if not all instanced pve so it hold ppls attention for more than a few clears.

  • KronosBaelfire.6289KronosBaelfire.6289 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 18, 2018
    Yes, when the time is right.

    I am truly enjoying playing GW2 right now and tbh I really am too deep into GW2 to imagine a GW3 atm. However, when this game has run its course and has been expanded to the brink of breaking itself, or when the player base has diminished down to the point of merging servers until there are 5 or less left, then we can talk about GW3. But I don't see them working on a GW3 anytime soon.

  • Other (I might explain my preference in the comments)

    YES !!!! their should be a guild wars 3 !!! their must be a GUILD WARS 3!!! with many improvements and better hard ware support on both video cards and multi core use!!! as well as guild wars 3 MUST HAVE DX 11 support !!

    RYZEN THREAD RIPPER support and Vegas 56 and 64 support !!! as well as be able for EVERY ONE to play in 4K !!! even if they use windows 8 never the less they MUST HAVE the best game just as so should we all that have high end computers that we paid thousands of dollars for to be well used for the new game!!

    as well as the most newest and latest encoding code that is able to be used !!! and if you can not play in 4K make it so you can at least play in 1080P !!! for thos that have lower end computers !!!

  • sorudo.9054sorudo.9054 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Yes, when the time is right.

    unless they're stepping up their game they need GW3, a complete reset with all the patience this game had to have since launch.
    IMO when they planned GW2 they had no schedule, now after 5.4 years it barely has a plan.

    it's a mess, even ESO, a game that doesn't really has much to go on is more organized then GW2.
    -the battle system is so messy it feels empty and there is barely any balance to be found.
    -the world is like cotton, everything goes everywhere and doesn't really have any consistency. (my t-shirt has more consistency)

    they need to really change allot to keep this game to the AAA top they want it to be, after HoT they've only gone down hill and never got to that level.

  • Maybe, depending on what can be added in or upgraded from GW 2.

    Make it single player

  • No, it's not needed. GW 2 should just continue with expansions and patches.

    The only absolute reason I would go for it is if it had nothing to do with Tyria, Elona or even Cantha. It would have to be on totally new land masses on the planet and yes undersea combat. B) ;)

  • Yes, when the time is right.

    GW2 is running on a modified GW1 engine. The thing is 13 years old and it runs like it. Unless they take some serious time to optimize the ancient code (which they've said they won't do because it'll sacrifice content development, also it'll be a nightmare,) the game performance is going to continue to deteriorate over time. This became painfully obvious with PoF, which killed my performance to the point that I can hardly stand to play anymore. The new maps are gorgeous...and run like a lead bathtub. My comp's performance running the game post-PoF is SO bad that I actually reapplied my thermal paste, bought a new antivirus, and cleaned/defragged a few times over. I was actually worried my computer was dying or infected, that's how severe the difference was post-PoF. It couldn't have been the game, I thought. It ran alright pre-PoF. But lo. Pre-PoF, I would typically run the game with a browser running YouTube in the background with no issue. Post-PoF, if I try that my computer chokes so bad you'd think it was a laptop.

    We need GW3 if only for a fresh engine. Sadly I don't expect it to happen any time soon.

  • NO, just because players put alot of time into the game like crafting legendary armor or weapons. If however they want to create Guild Wars 3 they should stop with expanding for a while so we have something to work for again in guild wars 3

  • In my opinion GW2 its perfect, and NCSOFT should give us more expansions, more patches, and more content :)

  • particlepinata.9865particlepinata.9865 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 19, 2018
    Other (I might explain my preference in the comments)

    If its a corpg (multiplayer game) like the first game yes. With fresh modern mechanics and interface ofcourse. If its an mmo, not so interested. Slowly getting tired of zerging with too many people in the openworld instead of together with a more compact band of players. It takes out the immersion out of everything.

  • No, it's not needed. GW 2 should just continue with expansions and patches.

    @zealex.9410 said:
    It should also have a subscription fee, a new engine, dyeable weapons, no charr, dyeable backpieces, gvg, more pvp modes or a wvw with more focus on it, built templates, all the sytems that are universally considered a plus that gw2 introduced and every system from gw1 that worked/ was better than in gw2 and grear progression etc. At least for 1 type of content if not all instanced pve so it hold ppls attention for more than a few clears.

    Why expunge a playable race that some people enjoy? Just because you dislike them?

  • MikeL.8260MikeL.8260 Member ✭✭✭
    Yes, when the time is right.

    It's a no brainer, it's the natural evolution, personally I expect one last expansion before GW3 is announced.

  • Adry.7512Adry.7512 Member ✭✭✭
    No, it's not needed. GW 2 should just continue with expansions and patches.

    No, just no.

  • Yes, when the time is right.

    Yes, an optimized game engine for low to high end gaming rigs is preferable.

  • No, it's not needed. GW 2 should just continue with expansions and patches.

    @MikeL.8260 said:
    It's a no brainer, it's the natural evolution, personally I expect one last expansion before GW3 is announced.

    No it isn't WoW is doing great without a WoW2 and if you compare WoW graphics to GW2 Grafics I don't really see why so many people here talk about graphics as a reason for a GW3...

    I personally absolutely hate this motivation of many companies to just produce new games / consoles as fast as possible - that doesn't make anything good... But since there are people who buy a new Smartphone every year and every single new console whenever there is one and every single Fifa game I can tell where the idea of GW3 is coming from. This consumer madness is ruining every single aspect of quality and user friendlyness and I hope ANet will not give in to that madness. I, like many others, would not buy nor play a GW3 for various reasons.
    I've already stopped buying consoles, the last console I bought was the PlayStation 2 - I've been buying Pokemon games up until Sun/Moon and I regret every purchase after Diamond/Pearl and will not buy any more Pokemon games. I'm not buying anything from EA anymore, for rather obvious reasons and I encourage everyone else to do the same. And I have bought 1 Smartphone in my entire life and it still serves me well, if it ever breaks I will buy the same Smartphone again.

    What I'm trying to say here is: just because something is new doesn't mean it's better and just because there is more of something doesn't mean any of it is actually good.

    Everyone who wants to see GW3 probably has a very twisted view of reality... Yes the graphics will probably improve, maybe the engine will run better but does that make a good game? No, graphics and how well a game runs don't matter in the first place, if the gameplay and story aren't gripping then everything else won't save the game. And when it comes to gameplay and story you will find that Companies which just pump out game after game usually produce kitten quality gameplay & story or just reiterations of previous games of the series with very little change while indie companies usually have incredibly detailed stories with innovative gameplay. Is it because they're more talented? Maybe but most likely it's because they focus all their attention to making that one game amazing instead of trying to produce as many games as possible.

    So please ANet, take good care of GW2 and don't waste a single thought on GW3!

    As the old worlds fall behind
    Our spirit reaches wide
    With no fear breathing new life
    Awaken from the dark dark slumber

    Wintersun - Awaken from the dark slumber (Spring) - Part II The Awakening

  • Yes, when the time is right.

    Personally I think they should, at first I'd be very against it just like I was against Guild Wars 2 when Guild Wars 1 was my primary game, but to see all the lore come back and all the new mechanics and features is really great. I'd love to see all the new features that a new game engine would have on the game.

  • Yes, when the time is right.

    Yes, of course GW3 ! It's really important for the GW fans. Upgrade the graphics again will maintain the fans' love. It's the strength of Guild Wars to bring something new on a regular basis. Unlike Wow. PS : sorry for my english (that's not my language)

  • folk.8190folk.8190 Member ✭✭
    Yes, when the time is right.

    i think Anet introduce GW3 at E3 19 or PAX 19. Then beta at 20y

  • folk.8190folk.8190 Member ✭✭
    Yes, when the time is right.

    But dear Anet, don't use Guild Wars 2 game engine. let's look to modern engines :)

  • Ashen.2907Ashen.2907 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Maybe, depending on what can be added in or upgraded from GW 2.

    @TwilightSoul.9048 said:

    @MikeL.8260 said:
    It's a no brainer, it's the natural evolution, personally I expect one last expansion before GW3 is announced.

    No it isn't WoW is doing great without a WoW2 and if you compare WoW graphics to GW2 Grafics I don't really see why so many people here talk about graphics as a reason for a GW3...

    I personally absolutely hate this motivation of many companies to just produce new games / consoles as fast as possible - that doesn't make anything good... But since there are people who buy a new Smartphone every year and every single new console whenever there is one and every single Fifa game I can tell where the idea of GW3 is coming from. This consumer madness is ruining every single aspect of quality and user friendlyness and I hope ANet will not give in to that madness. I, like many others, would not buy nor play a GW3 for various reasons.
    I've already stopped buying consoles, the last console I bought was the PlayStation 2 - I've been buying Pokemon games up until Sun/Moon and I regret every purchase after Diamond/Pearl and will not buy any more Pokemon games. I'm not buying anything from EA anymore, for rather obvious reasons and I encourage everyone else to do the same. And I have bought 1 Smartphone in my entire life and it still serves me well, if it ever breaks I will buy the same Smartphone again.

    What I'm trying to say here is: just because something is new doesn't mean it's better and just because there is more of something doesn't mean any of it is actually good.

    Everyone who wants to see GW3 probably has a very twisted view of reality... Yes the graphics will probably improve, maybe the engine will run better but does that make a good game? No, graphics and how well a game runs don't matter in the first place, if the gameplay and story aren't gripping then everything else won't save the game. And when it comes to gameplay and story you will find that Companies which just pump out game after game usually produce kitten quality gameplay & story or just reiterations of previous games of the series with very little change while indie companies usually have incredibly detailed stories with innovative gameplay. Is it because they're more talented? Maybe but most likely it's because they focus all their attention to making that one game amazing instead of trying to produce as many games as possible.

    So please ANet, take good care of GW2 and don't waste a single thought on GW3!

    Does this mean that you consider making gw2 to be a mistake?

    Producing a new product years after the old, when new heights are possible due to the increasing capabilities of the tech used is a perfectly reasonable thing in my opinion. I certainly am not attempting to use a TRS80 computer (and I notice that you mention owning a PS2 not a PS, or NES, or Atari 2600).

  • DeceiverX.8361DeceiverX.8361 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Yes, when the time is right.

    Hell, I think the time is now.
    The story is convoluted and makes no sense to new players, the professions are horribly-designed and very imbalanced, the engine is really not aging well, and the game and expansions are continuously selling worse and worse because of all of the above.

    Honestly, even simply just deleting all the busted elite specs would help a lot.

    ANet needs a hard reset because it's pretty obvious they're sinking this ship and can't figure out a way to right it as it stands.

    You sure that Sniper idea is as good as you thought it was gonna be?
    Because I think my original idea is better.
    Quit/Inactive. No, you can't have my stuff.

  • No, it's not needed. GW 2 should just continue with expansions and patches.

    @Ashen.2907 said:

    @TwilightSoul.9048 said:

    @MikeL.8260 said:
    It's a no brainer, it's the natural evolution, personally I expect one last expansion before GW3 is announced.

    No it isn't WoW is doing great without a WoW2 and if you compare WoW graphics to GW2 Grafics I don't really see why so many people here talk about graphics as a reason for a GW3...

    I personally absolutely hate this motivation of many companies to just produce new games / consoles as fast as possible - that doesn't make anything good... But since there are people who buy a new Smartphone every year and every single new console whenever there is one and every single Fifa game I can tell where the idea of GW3 is coming from. This consumer madness is ruining every single aspect of quality and user friendlyness and I hope ANet will not give in to that madness. I, like many others, would not buy nor play a GW3 for various reasons.
    I've already stopped buying consoles, the last console I bought was the PlayStation 2 - I've been buying Pokemon games up until Sun/Moon and I regret every purchase after Diamond/Pearl and will not buy any more Pokemon games. I'm not buying anything from EA anymore, for rather obvious reasons and I encourage everyone else to do the same. And I have bought 1 Smartphone in my entire life and it still serves me well, if it ever breaks I will buy the same Smartphone again.

    What I'm trying to say here is: just because something is new doesn't mean it's better and just because there is more of something doesn't mean any of it is actually good.

    Everyone who wants to see GW3 probably has a very twisted view of reality... Yes the graphics will probably improve, maybe the engine will run better but does that make a good game? No, graphics and how well a game runs don't matter in the first place, if the gameplay and story aren't gripping then everything else won't save the game. And when it comes to gameplay and story you will find that Companies which just pump out game after game usually produce kitten quality gameplay & story or just reiterations of previous games of the series with very little change while indie companies usually have incredibly detailed stories with innovative gameplay. Is it because they're more talented? Maybe but most likely it's because they focus all their attention to making that one game amazing instead of trying to produce as many games as possible.

    So please ANet, take good care of GW2 and don't waste a single thought on GW3!

    Does this mean that you consider making gw2 to be a mistake?

    Producing a new product years after the old, when new heights are possible due to the increasing capabilities of the tech used is a perfectly reasonable thing in my opinion. I certainly am not attempting to use a TRS80 computer (and I notice that you mention owning a PS2 not a PS, or NES, or Atari 2600).

    Yes and no, I haven't played Guild Wars but as far as I know it was very very different as far as gameplay goes from GW2 so I think GW2 was a good step. If we think about GW3, what do you imagine would change from GW2 to GW3? Better graphics, better engine, and? It'd most likely be pretty much the same type of gameplay as GW2 already offers so why not polish the GW2 engine and graphics over time (as WoW has done in the past too) and keep releasing content?
    There is no point in making a new game just for better graphics and engine except greed. We as players gain nothing except a more spread out fanbase - many GW2 players would stick with GW2, and many GW players aren't playing GW2 and will not play GW3 either - sure you attract new players, but if you kick your veterans in the guts every 6 years that'll probably cost you.

    WoW is still successful because it's still WoW and even though many have quit WoW, a lot of them still come back after a few years because it's still there and there's still new stuff every then and now, if they'd release a WoW2 that'd mean they'd have to quit developing WoW and then they'd start loosing precious fans.

    As the old worlds fall behind
    Our spirit reaches wide
    With no fear breathing new life
    Awaken from the dark dark slumber

    Wintersun - Awaken from the dark slumber (Spring) - Part II The Awakening

  • Zet.9130Zet.9130 Member ✭✭
    Only if certain things are in GW 3 (such as particular professions, races, content, game modes, ect.)

    Two thoughts.
    I'd like to see GW3 only if they reworked the professions and went back to builds. I thought dual professions was a defining feature of Guild Wars. Guild Wars 2 has felt like MMO Light since release. The change made a game that was easier to run and manage just sadly less fun. So basically it was an improvement for Anet and not the player base.

    Secondly I'd pay full price for Guild Wars 1 revamped with jumping, Trading Post and (ugh) Gem Store. I miss Pre, Droks runs, Black Dyes and Heros. Yes, yes there would be complications - shut up - I'm just saying. There would be a market for new players to go back and work on GW1 titles. Anyway just my thoughts.

  • Other (I might explain my preference in the comments)

    What Anet does as a company is up to them. But IF they were to EVER think or bring out a Guild Wars 3, I really hope they do it alone like they did with Guild Wars. Guild Wars 2 just screams out NCSoft

  • Zet.9130Zet.9130 Member ✭✭
    Only if certain things are in GW 3 (such as particular professions, races, content, game modes, ect.)

    @TwilightSoul.9048 said:

    Yes and no, I haven't played Guild Wars but as far as I know it was very very different as far as gameplay goes from GW2 so I think GW2 was a good step.

    What? You've made a blind assumption. It's my belief that the most important parts of gameplay were left behind. We disagree. I spent 7 years playing Guild Wars 1. I was not hoping for "a new game just like the old game". But what we got was a watered down version of Guild Wars, with jumping and a Gem Store. If you have any doubts, I ask you how'd you do in your last GvG match?

  • GDchiaScrub.3241GDchiaScrub.3241 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 27, 2018
    No, it's not needed. GW 2 should just continue with expansions and patches.

    Has there been a WoW 2? Great I'm glad we established this. About the only reason to do a "3" is to expand the engine because there was more demand the game needed (art or technical requirements for game play). Narrative stuff can just be handled with expansions or w.e.

    Also maintaining two MMOs sounds like a bad idea.

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  • ugrakarma.9416ugrakarma.9416 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I have no interest, and I would not migrate. If the problem is just the engine and graphics they can review this with Guild Wars 2, requiring much less work and tech than doing a 3 from scratch.

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  • No, it's not needed. GW 2 should just continue with expansions and patches.

    @Zet.9130 said:

    Yes and no, I haven't played Guild Wars but as far as I know it was very very different as far as gameplay goes from GW2 so I think GW2 was a good step.

    What? You've made a blind assumption. It's my belief that the most important parts of gameplay were left behind. We disagree. I spent 7 years playing Guild Wars 1. I was not hoping for "a new game just like the old game". But what we got was a watered down version of Guild Wars, with jumping and a Gem Store. If you have any doubts, I ask you how'd you do in your last GvG match?

    I didn't say anywhere that GW2 is better, I said it's a very different gameplay, it was a good step because they didn't just make a new version of an old game - they introduced something new. I would not be playing GW2 if it was the same as GW with only better graphics. GW2 isn't a "watered down version of Guild Wars", it's a different game - it was never supposed to be the same game just better, it was supposed to be something different and that is good. If it was the same as the originial Guild Wars then they should've just released a new expansion for GW. I feel like you only read that one line of my entire post.

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  • Yes, when the time is right.

    I only played GW2 because I like GW1 a lot and the new engine looked nice. But I was bored from the combat mechanics(the weapon sets and limits the skills) since the beta and so I quit.
    Also the firearms did not fit well into the game. The primary quest with the salad general also ruined the immersion (he sucks like those new marvel "heros").
    Good side quests are all nice but when there are no armor parts to collect but just those fixed shop sets, there is lack of motivation to collect stuff.
    I understand that they need to make the clothes to fit for the Salad people, genocidal cats etc.

    Also I started GW1 with Cantha and was hoping that it would appear in GW2 on a similar time scale.... god was I wrong. And

  • Ashen.2907Ashen.2907 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Maybe, depending on what can be added in or upgraded from GW 2.

    @TwilightSoul.9048 said:

    @Ashen.2907 said:

    @TwilightSoul.9048 said:

    @MikeL.8260 said:
    It's a no brainer, it's the natural evolution, personally I expect one last expansion before GW3 is announced.

    No it isn't WoW is doing great without a WoW2 and if you compare WoW graphics to GW2 Grafics I don't really see why so many people here talk about graphics as a reason for a GW3...

    I personally absolutely hate this motivation of many companies to just produce new games / consoles as fast as possible - that doesn't make anything good... But since there are people who buy a new Smartphone every year and every single new console whenever there is one and every single Fifa game I can tell where the idea of GW3 is coming from. This consumer madness is ruining every single aspect of quality and user friendlyness and I hope ANet will not give in to that madness. I, like many others, would not buy nor play a GW3 for various reasons.
    I've already stopped buying consoles, the last console I bought was the PlayStation 2 - I've been buying Pokemon games up until Sun/Moon and I regret every purchase after Diamond/Pearl and will not buy any more Pokemon games. I'm not buying anything from EA anymore, for rather obvious reasons and I encourage everyone else to do the same. And I have bought 1 Smartphone in my entire life and it still serves me well, if it ever breaks I will buy the same Smartphone again.

    What I'm trying to say here is: just because something is new doesn't mean it's better and just because there is more of something doesn't mean any of it is actually good.

    Everyone who wants to see GW3 probably has a very twisted view of reality... Yes the graphics will probably improve, maybe the engine will run better but does that make a good game? No, graphics and how well a game runs don't matter in the first place, if the gameplay and story aren't gripping then everything else won't save the game. And when it comes to gameplay and story you will find that Companies which just pump out game after game usually produce kitten quality gameplay & story or just reiterations of previous games of the series with very little change while indie companies usually have incredibly detailed stories with innovative gameplay. Is it because they're more talented? Maybe but most likely it's because they focus all their attention to making that one game amazing instead of trying to produce as many games as possible.

    So please ANet, take good care of GW2 and don't waste a single thought on GW3!

    Does this mean that you consider making gw2 to be a mistake?

    Producing a new product years after the old, when new heights are possible due to the increasing capabilities of the tech used is a perfectly reasonable thing in my opinion. I certainly am not attempting to use a TRS80 computer (and I notice that you mention owning a PS2 not a PS, or NES, or Atari 2600).

    Yes and no, I haven't played Guild Wars but as far as I know it was very very different as far as gameplay goes from GW2 so I think GW2 was a good step. If we think about GW3, what do you imagine would change from GW2 to GW3? Better graphics, better engine, and? It'd most likely be pretty much the same type of gameplay as GW2 already offers so why not polish the GW2 engine and graphics over time (as WoW has done in the past too) and keep releasing content?
    There is no point in making a new game just for better graphics and engine except greed. We as players gain nothing except a more spread out fanbase - many GW2 players would stick with GW2, and many GW players aren't playing GW2 and will not play GW3 either - sure you attract new players, but if you kick your veterans in the guts every 6 years that'll probably cost you.

    WoW is still successful because it's still WoW and even though many have quit WoW, a lot of them still come back after a few years because it's still there and there's still new stuff every then and now, if they'd release a WoW2 that'd mean they'd have to quit developing WoW and then they'd start loosing precious fans.

    To be honest I do not know what the gameplay differences between gw2 and a hypothetical gw3 should be. I do know that gw2 is still running on a version of the gw1 engine and that devs have indicated that this limits what they can reasonably do with the game

    I think that change for its own sake is not necessarily a good thing, but then neither is refusing to embrace growth because it steps away from the status quo. I dont think that the franchise is ready for a new iteration, but I can see the gap between what is and what could be, with upgraded tools, growing.

  • Blaeys.3102Blaeys.3102 Member ✭✭✭
    No, it's not needed. GW 2 should just continue with expansions and patches.

    The only realistic reason I could ever see for GW3 would be to improve the game engine - and I don't see that as a legitimate reason for shifting gears right now.

    The shift from GW1 and GW2 made sense because GW1 was never actually an MMO. It was a coop game with a public in game lobby. GW2 is a fully fleshed out (and extremely well done) MMO. Not sure where you would go with a GW3.

  • DeadlySynz.3471DeadlySynz.3471 Member ✭✭✭✭
    Yes, when the time is right.

    Those whom are saying no, you have to understand something, there is very little more they can do with this game. It's a bad sign when HoT maps are more populated and PoF maps are empty. I think it's a tad bit hard to justify creating more expansions when the previous one's zones are practically empty. At this point Gw3 makes more sense than another expansion IMO.

  • GDchiaScrub.3241GDchiaScrub.3241 Member ✭✭✭✭
    No, it's not needed. GW 2 should just continue with expansions and patches.

    @DeadlySynz.3471 said:
    Those whom are saying no, you have to understand something, there is very little more they can do with this game. It's a bad sign when HoT maps are more populated and PoF maps are empty. I think it's a tad bit hard to justify creating more expansions when the previous one's zones are practically empty. At this point Gw3 makes more sense than another expansion IMO.

    Or y'know. A different genre. If they really wanted to tell a linear story...why not make a linear game?

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  • Klowdy.3126Klowdy.3126 Member ✭✭✭

    There is no need for a sequel yet, unless they have some groundbreaking ideas not seen in other games. Something like WoW 2 could run on a much better engine, and have action based combat. As of now, there aren't any ideas I can think of GW2 could implement, other than a better engine, which doesn't seem worth it for the small upgrade.

  • No, it's not needed. GW 2 should just continue with expansions and patches.

    No need. Continue to innovate with GW2. WoW has continually polished their user experience, no reason GW2 can't do the same.

  • folk.8190folk.8190 Member ✭✭
    Yes, when the time is right.

    its time for GW3

  • it takes too much money to make and lots of time to develop a new game.

    the main problem on GW2 is not being able to recycle the levels 1 to 79. All those locations are empty and new players don't like to play in a lonely world.

    until they can solve this problem they should not invest more money on new games.

    Gw2 had a great lunch due to the fan base and hipe.

  • Torolan.5816Torolan.5816 Member ✭✭✭
    Maybe, depending on what can be added in or upgraded from GW 2.

    Maybe with a tendency to no for GW3.

    GW3 would be welcomed by me when:
    *balance gets better
    *personal story gets made in a way that you can easy add races later on, maybe by transporting it in the open world.
    *story in general gets better
    *instanced content is gone outside of fractals. Fractals can stay to how what has happened in the past.
    *dungeons become open world events like in DAOC.
    *pvp is exclusive in wvw.
    *wvw lets guilds build garisons on their own with their own ressources and a system where alliances mean something, maybe in a way that you simply cannot attack people you are allied with and you have to officially declare war on another guild to be able to take their stronghold. Roaming would still be allowed of course.
    *hometown invasion becomes possible.
    *maps evolve in the ls and new maps are added in expansions. Frozen in time is superlame.
    *Guilds actually mean something.

    If the majority of these things would come, I would want Anet to shut up and take my money. If not, I can very well live with GW2 in it´s current state until I finally find a game that satisfies my needs better.

  • Bast Bow.2958Bast Bow.2958 Member ✭✭
    edited January 28, 2018
    Yes, when the time is right.

    @Noa.7490 said:
    Of course they could make a sequel with a new engine with all the bells and whistles but I believe it would be a bad idea. From my point of view the transition from GW1 to GW2 wasn't at all what I expected and believed it should have been made better. I don't want to see the same thing happen again. Now look at the image below. This was a montage done back in the time of GW1 which showed just how little of Tyria we had explored. In GW2 we've explored less since the bottom portion is Cantha. There's plenty of lands we haven't explored yet, lands we've never seen, even in GW1 so if anything, this is the direction GW2 should take; expand, explore, polish.

    Yes I saw this image too a long time ago, I believe it was created at the start of GW2, which also added maps from Guild Wars Books into it. I'm hoping this map is something Guild Wars 3 will become. I think it's too big for Guild Wars 2 seeing the current maps we have now.

    I would love a Guild Wars 3 when the time is right. Not any time soon of course, timing doesn't feel right. I'm guessing 1 other expansion in 2019 or 2020, and then I'm hoping for a Guild Wars 3 in 2022 at it's earliest, 2023 or later more likely. All speculation and dreams.

  • Demented Sheep.1642Demented Sheep.1642 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 28, 2018

    Normally I would say no, at least not for a long time but....the foundation coding of this game seems really bad? To the point where it apparently makes implementing a lot of features very difficult.

    So I don't know. I don't want to start over though, it still looks great (one of the advantages of a stylized art style), it's got a good amount of classes and a system for adding more variation to each one and a fair ways to go story wise unless we mcguffin all the dragons at once which would be disappointing.

  • Other (I might explain my preference in the comments)

    There are some really good things that have happened in the game and there have been some poor decisions and missed opportunities and if Anet can learn from both, I wouldn't mind seeing the third game.

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