thewaterguy.4796 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Just Curious is this Elite Skill is half decent, I'm swapping over to Thief (Deadeye specifically) as my main and...yeah I'm very new to this, Years ago (like 2013) I played Thief and thought the skill was lackluster but obviously alot has changed since then, so Thief players, is this Elite Skill half decent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zacchary.6183 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 They are good if you are using FfE and improv. It really ups their DPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewaterguy.4796 Posted December 7, 2017 Author Share Posted December 7, 2017 uhh pardon my ignorance lol, whats FfE stand for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zacchary.6183 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 @thewaterguy.4796 said:uhh pardon my ignorance lol, whats FfE stand for?Sorry. :Phttps://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Fire_for_EffectIt's my favorite DE trait next to Renewing Gaze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewaterguy.4796 Posted December 7, 2017 Author Share Posted December 7, 2017 Ahh thanks, I'll give it a shot when I finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cirrion.8951 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Thieves Guild has good synergy with Renewing Gaze and Improvisation in PvE. In WvW Thieves Guild can be very powerful in solo roaming fights in the right circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bq pd.2148 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 i do prefer shadow meld and siutational basilisk venom for WvW on deadeye. in pve basilisk venom is very good agiant CC bars when in a group as it is baseline shared now. i personally think the thieves guild eilte is way too weak and too long cd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artaz.3819 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 My main issue with Thieves Guild is and has always been the cast time 1 1/2s plus the 180s baseline cooldown. Similar "Elites":https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Elite_skill have half to two-thirds the cooldown (or even less if part of PoF) relative to the cast time of the Elite. The only exception being Warrior Battle Standard for being the only immediate on target highest AoE ranged non-conditional revive (ie top or 2nd highest support Elites in the game).The early August update helped with the damage component to make to Thieves Guild slightly better for the huge risk to cast (outside of stealth). The other main issue is if you use any stealth, the Thieves give your opponent a sense of direction or perhaps exact location of your movement (plus they can still be targeted for opponents to attack/weak) which gets you killed in WvW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faaris.8013 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Thieves Guild is the elite I pick for playing the story and soloing bosses in PvE (like HP challenges in the desert). Not for the additional damage but for the cc. A fight usually doesn't last longer than my thieves and these guys are spamming cc on the target. Basilisk Venom is only useful in a group (that knows about stacking) and Impact Strike is a one time use in a fight and you need to time it and stand on the target's feet. With Thieves Guild, you don't have to worry about a defiance bar showing up, they will break it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Schrodingers Cat.2497 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Thieves guild provides a decent damage steroid in Raids. The CC is not worth relying on as it can be random if they choose to use it or not. They double as body guards, and can accept any boons that the thief may throw out. They aren't like normal AI, in the sense they are super aggressive and will not stop attacking or pause.All in All... they are pretty good. More reliable than Dagger Storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westenev.5289 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Thieves Guild is definately my go-to utility if I don't need Deadeye's 2-charge stealth or Bas Venom. At least, it's better than using no elite skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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