Huge Buff to Core Engineer PvP - Sanguine Array

New trait in the place of Heavy Armor Exploit, middle Adept in Firearms: Gain Might when you inflict bleeding on a foe.

Use Grenades, use Tool KitUse Explosives & Firearms & Alchemy,

Key Traits:
Explosives:

• Grenadier
• Shrapnel

Firearms:

• Sanguine Array

Process:

• Spam Grenades
• Spam Box of Nails
• Observe perma 25 might stacks

Probably multiple amulets and maybe it will be useful without explosives, doing more testing now. Thanks ArenaNet.

Yes, this looks pretty interesting. When paired with the all-mighty blunderbuss, should make for a strong build... haha But seriously, it does look good.

Its a big buff to Firearms itself, I think its great.

just tested it with elixir gun 1 skill and you can stack till 11 stacks of might with auto hit. pretty good

I use a simple sw/sh holo build with firearms/alchemy/holo, and the extra 5% crit and 12% ferocity from these changes is welcome.

My Hoelbrak set just got upgraded, yay.

@Chaith.8256 said:New trait in the place of Heavy Armor Exploit, middle Adept in Firearms: Gain Might when you inflict bleeding on a foe.

Use Grenades, use Tool KitUse Explosives & Firearms & Alchemy,

Key Traits:

Explosives:

• Grenadier
• Shrapnel

Firearms:

• Sanguine Array

Process:

• Spam Grenades
• Spam Box of Nails
• Observe perma 25 might stacks

Probably multiple amulets and maybe it will be useful without explosives, doing more testing now. Thanks ArenaNet.

Wont be good enough to be in that great tier you dreamed of.And i think you forgot boon corrupts and removals exist so those might stacks will just end up being perma weakness instead

It's a great trait for condi engi, I like it a ton. Hoping more discussing here will bring more positive changes

@Coolguy.8702 said:

@Chaith.8256 said:New trait in the place of Heavy Armor Exploit, middle Adept in Firearms:

Gain Might when you inflict bleeding on a foe.

Use Grenades, use Tool KitUse Explosives & Firearms & Alchemy,

Key Traits:

Explosives:

• Grenadier
• Shrapnel

Firearms:

• Sanguine Array

Process:

• Spam Grenades
• Spam Box of Nails
• Observe perma 25 might stacks

Probably multiple amulets and maybe it will be useful without explosives, doing more testing now. Thanks ArenaNet.

If it gets corrupted, one Blunderbus can give me 25 might if I hit 5 targets LUL

So many things to test!

• No Scope fury buff of +150 Ferocity + Sanguine Array -- Replacing Explosives Build?!
• +10% damage when having Vigor (Invigorating Speed + Excessive Energy) -- essentially a Tool build buff
• ...if we can finally fight Condis easier...?!

Got me hype...

@Chaith.8256 said:

If it gets corrupted, one Blunderbus can give me 25 might if I hit 5 targets LUL

And then it gets corrupted/removed again?????

@Coolguy.8702 said:

@Chaith.8256 said:

If it gets corrupted, one Blunderbus can give me 25 might if I hit 5 targets LUL

At the very least you keep the engi sub entertaining, Coolguy

This build is legitimate guys,

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQFAUlUUhSsY9VwkLQ+FLvFl4F1EJB4GGip13QFhBAA-jJR6gAz7Pc/AAAuAANlBAA

Probably in the realm of as good as Holo is, not quite, but because you can avoid standing in lava and pull similar numbers it's further propped up.

@"Chaith.8256" said:This build is legitimate guys,

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQFAUlUUhSsY9VwkLQ+FLvFl4F1EJB4GGip13QFhBAA-jJR6gAz7Pc/AAAuAANlBAA

Probably in the realm of as good as Holo is, not quite, but because you can avoid standing in lava and pull similar numbers it's further propped up.

Whoa, a build for Core players!Have any gameplay?

@LUST.7241 said:

@"Chaith.8256" said:This build is legitimate guys,

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vdAQFAUlUUhSsY9VwkLQ+FLvFl4F1EJB4GGip13QFhBAA-jJR6gAz7Pc/AAAuAANlBAA

Probably in the realm of as good as Holo is, not quite, but because you can avoid standing in lava and pull similar numbers it's further propped up.

A couple hours of unranked, streamed tonight. Twitch.tv/chaithh

I played against this tonight a few times on scourge, it has serious potential. Great aoe, great damage.

It doesn't have as much burst as holo though, and misses out on stability. Still very strong

Tested the changes of No Scope, but with my kitless Elixir build, the fury output is nuts, 880 points of ferocity in seekers stats, 1220 in Berserker stats!, (using along the explosives trait Big Boomer), No Scope offically became a viable trait, outvalueing Skilled Marksmen by a mile.

I'm still gonna stick with High Caliber though, my build already provides tons of might via elixirs, the 5% increase will be great for compensate the loss of the sigil of accuracy!

EDIT: No Scope is bugged, this trait is bugged and giving 3 might for 9s on proc in addition to fury.

@Chaith.8256 said:This trait is bugged and overperforming in first few seconds.

Details:

There's a hidden 2nd mechanic to this trait, giving you 4 might for 10s with a matching 10s ICD, this activates when you hit with an ability that applies bleed.

Shhh, don't let the devs know. We'll see it nerfed to oblivion.

@Chaith.8256 said:This trait is bugged and overperforming in first few seconds.

Details:

There's a hidden 2nd mechanic to this trait, giving you 4 might for 10s with a matching 10s ICD, this activates when you hit with an ability that applies bleed.

I cant replicate this with fragmentation shot or elixir gun auto. Have you tried them too?

Edit: No Scope is giving unintentional perma 3 might

Okay, I'm just even more beyond confused now. Forget everything I said about this trait being bugged.

I'm getting 3 stacks of might for 10s from Grenading/casting Blunderbuss but I have literally no might generation abilities equipped, not courage sigil or anything..

IT'S "NO SCOPE" this trait is unintentionally giving 3 might for 10s or so.

@"Chaith.8256" said:Okay, I'm just even more beyond confused now. Forget everything I said about this trait being bugged.

I'm getting 3 stacks of might for 10s from Grenading/casting Blunderbuss but I have literally no might generation abilities equipped, not courage sigil or anything..

IT'S "NO SCOPE" this trait is unintentionally giving 3 might for 10s or so.

...Wut? that trait is only meant to give fury, no might whatsoever... they got things mixed isnt?

Ill dequip my sigil of courage and see if you are right

they nerfed no scope trait already. even if it was bugged it was fine. now core engi back to shit tier dmg again. unless you would run full elixir build which gonna instadie in pvp

@Nix.3152 said:they already nerfed no scope trait lol.

Yep. Good, no worries there