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WvW weapons are hideous

szshou.2193szshou.2193 Member ✭✭

Dear Anet,
If you're going to make an "exclusive" skin at least try to make it worth getting. All of these Obsidian skins look like they were made in 5 minutes in blender by an unpaid intern. I could make better weapon designs in my sleep, I would rather not have them at all than have the displeasure of looking at them. If you have time to halfass weapon design then you should spend that time on fixing population and other problems instead.

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  • DemonSeed.3528DemonSeed.3528 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Sarge.9730 said:
    Lets at least be constructive. The immediate hate spew that comes after every update to WvW does not exactly make it more appealing for devs to be active on the forums.

    The obsidian parts of the skins look fine and I think the colored effect came out well. The base of the weapons and the general theme they give off however appears to be more akin to a circus as opposed to a battle earned tribute to war. I think most people playing WvW that are concerned with skins are going to be put off by the lack of "bite" a skin like these bring.

    I did get that 'carnival' feeling from what I saw, but the slumbering mistforged obsidian dagger was alright, I might get that one.

  • coglin.1496coglin.1496 Member ✭✭✭

    @szshou.2193 said:
    Dear Anet,
    If you're going to make an "exclusive" skin at least try to make it worth getting. All of these Obsidian skins look like they were made in 5 minutes in blender by an unpaid intern. I could make better weapon designs in my sleep, I would rather not have them at all than have the displeasure of looking at them. If you have time to halfass weapon design then you should spend that time on fixing population and other problems instead.

    You appear to confuse your subjective opinion with that of actual objective fact.

    Do not confuse your objective opinion with that of objective fact. Remember, what you say matters, not what you meant to say.

  • @Sarge.9730 said:
    Lets at least be constructive. The immediate hate spew that comes after every update to WvW does not exactly make it more appealing for devs to be active on the forums.

    The obsidian parts of the skins look fine and I think the colored effect came out well. The base of the weapons and the general theme they give off however appears to be more akin to a circus as opposed to a battle earned tribute to war. I think most people playing WvW that are concerned with skins are going to be put off by the lack of "bite" a skin like these bring.

    Yeah when I hear obsidian I want black glossy stuff, not the xmasy red and white. That's the only part that wetn wrong for me.
    Obsidian makes me think, black, spikey, sharp, hard, fortresses

  • Endelon.1042Endelon.1042 Member ✭✭✭

    The new weapons are pretty bad. I don't know why they have tons of triangles and stuff, really does make them look like clown weapons, sigh.

  • Here is a little something:

    We can't fix PvP and WvW since:
    PvP and WvW have been forgotten by the balance team.
    PvP and WvW haven't received new content or new ways to play the game in more than 6 months now.

    But you know what, we can make rewards more appealing; so that players endure all the other things that won't be fixed. So why don't we make an "exclusive" weapon set?

    PvP and WvW get a Clownish looking weapon set (that is supposed to bring players in). Is this a joke? I've gotten immersed in other game modes to get skins I find to be cool looking, but does Anet really think that these new models will make people grind PvP and WvW?

  • Swagger.1459Swagger.1459 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 12, 2017

    @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:
    No matter how bad you think a skin is, a minimum of 10-30% of players will think it's great. No matter how great you think a skin is, a similar fraction will think it's hideous. Personally, I dislike about 80% of the skins in any game and I can't find a way to use about 80% of the rest. So I'm always happy in GW2 if they manage to release even one set a year that I find worth the effort to obtain.

    People like what they like; doesn't mean a skin is of great or poor design.

    I agree with you, but I’m thinking that a good number of people are also looking at these weapons and thinking the theme is off for the modes they are intended for. Also the name, Obsidian, combined with the effects change... created an image of all/mostly black weapons that have either red, green or blue etching or effects depending on your side... These are like the Flames of War curveball the devs threw...

    Honestly, this set reminds me of the carnival weapon set from ember bay. I probably would have been happier if the devs recycled the chaos weapon set models and made them black, as opposed to these... just sayin’.

    @Ben Phongluangtham.1065 said:
    “For rewards, we have a couple things in the pipeline. Please keep in mind, the list below doesn’t include everything we have planned. It’s just what is far enough along that we feel safe talking about.

    Obsidian Weapon set
    This is a new competitive weapon set (shared with WvW). The first four weapons of the set will be available on 12/12. The weapons change effects and some detailing based on what team you’re on. (Red, Blue, Green) The set has 2 tiers. The first tier is exotic, tier 2 is ascended. Tier 2 will require grandmaster marks, the same as other ascended rewards.”

  • @Swagger.1459 said:
    a good number of people are also looking at these weapons and thinking the theme is off for the modes they are intended for. Also the name, Obsidian, combined with the effects change... created an image of all/mostly black weapons that have either red, green or blue etching and effects depending on your side... There are like the Flames of War curveball the devs threw...

    Sure, "Obsidian" and "mist weapons" and so on will conjure up specific images in our minds, which affects whether we like (or dislike) the actual implementation. I try not to worry about whether the devs named something "Lyssa's Mirror" or "Obsidian Hammer;" I figure there are enough things I don't like about the standard MMO/RPG tropes of design that I don't need to add the baggage of my personal expectations.

    And some people won't care about how stuff looks, they'll just care about the prestige of being able to show off how much WvW currency they've earned.

    Honestly, this set reminds me of the carnival weapon set from ember bay.

    I actually think the carnival set is fun. I don't like any of the specific weapons enough to spend the gold to acquire them, but I like how they are designed to appeal strongly to a narrow subset of players; I'd like to see more niche designs. Although, please, don't do that for prestige gear; that should appeal to as many as possible.

    Hype is the path to the dark side. Hype leads to unfulfilled expectations. Disappointment leads to anger. Anger leads to disgust. Disgust leads to "oh, new shinies! I'm back!"

  • Its anet saying they dont care about wvw.

    Guild wars 3 when?

  • Solori.6025Solori.6025 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Dawdler.8521 said:
    The dagger is ok but the other weapons are... abominations. It's probably some of the worst skins I've seen in the game.

    This^

    Tingle my stingleberry

  • i like them, they are unique in how they look. Thats the most important part about new items and skins the greater the variety the better. colors are a bit of a pov thing but the shape is cool.

  • Sarrs.4831Sarrs.4831 Member ✭✭✭

    I'm disappointed in these skins to be honest. They don't look sharp.
    The only weapon that I particularly like is the T1 Obsidian Dagger.
    The name 'Obsidian' instantly reminds me of the old Greatsword from classic WoW which is still a sword which holds up style-wise to this day. If these new weapons were a little closer to that they would be very good.

  • DemonSeed.3528DemonSeed.3528 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I want to look cooler, just not carnival cool. But I do appreciate mistforged obsidian dagger. Please make us look cool. Not just cool to people outside of wvw, but against our enemies in wvw. Coooool.

  • I honestly expected something more like the Obsidian Edge from GW1, only in set form and not a single weapon.
    Ref: https://wiki.guildwars.com/images/b/be/Obsidian_Edge.jpg

    If they just took that original GW1 Obsidian weapon, detailed it up, give it something fancy like a black-glass approach VERY similar to the Priory glass weapons just not as 'slab-like' then released that, I'd have been extremely happy. As it is, this set doesn't feel like it is in the correct place at all.
    Glass effect: https://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/0/05/Priory's_Historical_Sword.jpg

    ( nb: yes I know obsidian isn't transparent, but it can at least provide a colour/texture to it.. Also it's very possible they took the colour directly from the obsidian knife on this geology page: http://geology.com/rocks/obsidian.shtml )

  • Zephyra.4709Zephyra.4709 Member ✭✭✭

    I've only previewed the ones from the bank's wardrobe tab and I must agree with the OP - they are unfortunately, absolutely hideous. My personal interpretation of obsidian is anything that is mostly black, red, predominantly jagged and fearsome in appearance. Even look at good ol' Runescape's obby armor/weapons... at least they're moderately intimidating.

    I'll tell it to you flat - the new obsidian weapon skins look like cheap plastic (once again we're hit with the shiny plastic/metallic theme) and all hilts adorned with ribbons combined with the triangular patterns seem as if the artist wanted to combine jester, ornate and rock into one. It simply looks bad and doesn't work (in my brutally honest opinion).

    I wish the weapon skins were straight out full black and red or seeping with subtle reddish magma-like cracks in certain places. The blade-ends themselves are... not bad. Perhaps I'd be more accepting if the hilt/guards/pommels etc (sword anatomy in general) were inspired by Skyrim's ebony weapons. Oh well.

    "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder..."

  • Zephyra.4709Zephyra.4709 Member ✭✭✭

    @DemonSeed.3528 said:
    I want to look cooler, just not carnival cool. But I do appreciate mistforged obsidian dagger. Please make us look cool. Not just cool to people outside of wvw, but against our enemies in wvw. Coooool.

    This so much. I'm absolutely disappointed to my uttermost bitter core about these weapon skins. They look like a mix-up of carnival-clown, attempted elegance and stone into one. Doesn't work at all.

  • Sovereign.1093Sovereign.1093 Member ✭✭✭✭

    i like them. must be a preference thing

    Not Even Coverage is the Only broken thing in WVW.

  • Dawdler.8521Dawdler.8521 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Sovereign.1093 said:
    i like them. must be a preference thing

    Even if 1 out 10 like then, that still mean they are ugly as sin to everyone else, yes.

    Dont look a gift Asura in the mouth.
    No seriously, dont. Shark teeth.

  • Sithis.3564Sithis.3564 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 13, 2017

    I really don't want to bash ANet but those weapons are NOT Obsidian.

    When I saw them, especially that huge, colorful staff, I really felt disappointed with the whole design.

  • Krypto.2069Krypto.2069 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 13, 2017

    @Dotfear.6493 said:
    ugliest weapon i'v never seen, we deserve more like gemstore weapon

    I must say.... these Obsidian weapons look like Gem Store "REJECTS!" :lol:

    C'mon, Anet... wt.f is this kitten? I'm not spending my tickets on those things! OMG! :lol:

    Moonlight [THRU]

  • Kapax.3801Kapax.3801 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 13, 2017

    A WvW shield should have the following design.

    Model: Tower Shield, Dark Souls.

    A true shield for a defender of the kingdom.

    Model: Tower Shield, Dark souls 2.

    Look at that, you have a work of art as a shield.

    PD: Yes, I am a fan of giant and exaggerated shields!!! B) B)

  • Dawdler.8521Dawdler.8521 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 13, 2017

    Kapax, thats the exact visual of a shield already in GW2, lol. So no need to even look at Dark Souls.

    https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Guild_Tower_Shield

    And yes, the Roman style shield would have awesome to have in a way that reflected your current WvW side and a million times better than the clown shield we got. Anet could have reskinned the guild shield and added the effect for less cost than... that...

    Dont look a gift Asura in the mouth.
    No seriously, dont. Shark teeth.

  • Kapax.3801Kapax.3801 Member ✭✭✭

    @Dawdler.8521 said:
    Kapax, thats the exact visual of a shield already in GW2, lol. So no need to even look at Dark Souls.

    https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Guild_Tower_Shield

    And yes, the Roman style shield would have awesome to have in a way that reflected your current WvW side and a million times better than the clown shield we got. Anet could have reskinned the guild shield and added the effect for less cost than... that...

    Yes, I already knew that shield, and it should be based on this model to create more shield of the "tower" type.
    Currently there is only one shield that I like:

  • Aeolus.3615Aeolus.3615 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 13, 2017

    the obsidian shield felt it was bugged into the arm, maybe its due its smal size and its locations on the arm.

    Advice: Make obsidian weapon simmiliar model to the victo sword from Gw1, it would be a better model to shape it from.

    The staff looked nice, but to bulky and short.

    A the obsidian color swap felt strange...

  • When I first heard that they made "obsidian" weapons for WvW I thought they were going to be along the same aesthetic as the GW1 obsidian FoW armor, armor that was more of a status symbol than it was armor. I felt that would definitely be in the ballpark for something that was "exclusive", instead we get these clown weapons which are, ironically, pretty much a joke. I feel like Anet purposely skips the QA phase for WvW designs/changes because they honestly don't have the manpower or time to dedicate to WvW, which is really sad.

  • Aeolus.3615Aeolus.3615 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Actually it costed no obsidian shards.... so its not made of obsidian.... xD

  • Vavume.8065Vavume.8065 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Aeolus.3615 said:
    Actually it costed no obsidian shards....

    If these weapons cost 350 leaf fossils I would still not buy them.

  • @Krypto.2069 said:

    @Dotfear.6493 said:
    ugliest weapon i'v never seen, we deserve more like gemstore weapon

    I must say.... these Obsidian weapons look like Gem Store "REJECTS!" :lol:

    C'mon, Anet... wt.f is this kitten? I'm not spending my tickets on those things! OMG! :lol:

    LOL

  • GDchiaScrub.3241GDchiaScrub.3241 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Oh.
    Mai.
    Dwayna.

    At the least the obsidian material looks good, and the flames could be good if they weren't competing against the team colored decals (I am assuming they match to the team color btw. Preview doesn't seem to care a lick about team color). Also, the exotic variants appear to have less triangular protrusions than the ascended ones for those that are put off by them...except Staff. The trade off is the smaller obsidian bit.

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  • Ragnarox.9601Ragnarox.9601 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 13, 2017

    lets make this thread constructive.

    ->looks at new pvp and wvw weapon sets

    bahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

  • Turk.5460Turk.5460 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @DemonSeed.3528 said:
    I want to look cooler, just not carnival cool. But I do appreciate mistforged obsidian dagger. Please make us look cool. Not just cool to people outside of wvw, but against our enemies in wvw. Coooool.

    You're not going to look cool against your enemies. Nobody on an enemy team is going to look at your character past " [Rank] [Profession] and possibly [Food/Wrench]. Barely anyone in any game mode anywhere is going to look at your character closely unless you ask them to. So if you want to look cool, make sure you are looking cool for yourself. Wardrobe your character to what you find nice to look at, not what you think others will, because I assure you, an overwhelming majority of players simply see you as male/female "race."

    Fort Aspenwood
    Jekkies

  • Arcaedus.7290Arcaedus.7290 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:
    No matter how bad you think a skin is, a minimum of 10-30% of players will think it's great. No matter how great you think a skin is, a similar fraction will think it's hideous. Personally, I dislike about 80% of the skins in any game and I can't find a way to use about 80% of the rest. So I'm always happy in GW2 if they manage to release even one set a year that I find worth the effort to obtain.

    People like what they like; doesn't mean a skin is of great or poor design.

    This is true. It's commonly said that the Dragonscale Headdress (helmet reward from the Ember Bay Reward track final chest) and the Brogans (boot armor reward from the Siren's Landing Reward track final chest) are two of the ugliest pieces of armor yet I absolutely love them.

  • Arcaedus.7290Arcaedus.7290 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Vavume.8065 said:

    @Arcaedus.7290 said:
    This is true. It's commonly said that the Dragonscale Headdress (helmet reward from the Ember Bay Reward track final chest) and the Brogans (boot armor reward from the Siren's Landing Reward track final chest) are two of the ugliest pieces of armor yet I absolutely love them.

    Gratz on having bad taste?

    The point is one man's trash, another man's treasure. Some may not like how the obsidian skins look but that's entirely subjective.

    Now the relevant criticism in this case is how low-effort these skins appear to be.

  • Vavume.8065Vavume.8065 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Arcaedus.7290 said:
    The point is one man's trash, another man's treasure.

    I thought that only applied to tramps...

  • Artaz.3819Artaz.3819 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 13, 2017

    What I expected was ANet would reskin the Guild Hall HoT Tenebrous Weapon (https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Tenebrous_weapons) set with a few more obsidian/blackish auras (or perhaps old school and a redo of the Nightmare weapons)...if you have Guild option on, you display your Guild emblem on the shield version (you know, Guild Wars).

    What we got was a cross between the Beaded Weapons (https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Beaded_weapons) and the Carnival vendor Ember Bay weapon set (https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shipwrecked_Circus_Treasurer) with the coloring scheme of the Gemstore Mordrem weapons.

    Weapon sets are a personal taste in art and design. Needless to say, rushing meh multi-colored reward skins that doesn't highlight the Obsidian graphic look (why place the visuals on the outlandish bumps/angles/color scheme) is absolutely a strange design choice and at least get inspired by the GW1 throwback visuals.

  • The mistforged weapons are vastly better than to these intern created rejects.

  • Avigrus.2871Avigrus.2871 Member ✭✭✭

    Hotfix the weapons plz..

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