Dezember.1295 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Hey!So for my power setup (open world / fracts) I've been running with LB and S/A. But yesterday's patch notes had me wondering if I should swap my S/A for a GS (and I did some testing, but I couldnt notice that much of a difference tbh). Obviously, best sheet damage would probably be to run GS - S/A or something, but it is very clumsy to run with double melee weapons, so I am going to keep my longbow as backup.Have you guys tested GS vs. S/A yet? What conclusions did you reach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet.1584 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I haven't run it in pve since the patch but i have in pvp and I liked it. good mobility from the GS, a nice pull from the axe, a block and projectile defense. if you pet swap, stun and then maul you can pull some pretty big numbers.I used to run full melee back in the day and once you get used to it the dps is great, i've always preferred gs>sw anyway because of the evade frames it just lacked some dps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezember.1295 Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 @Prophet.1584 said:I haven't run it in pve since the patch but i have in pvp and I liked it. good mobility from the GS, a nice pull from the axe, a block and projectile defense. if you pet swap, stun and then maul you can pull some pretty big numbers.I used to run full melee back in the day and once you get used to it the dps is great, i've always preferred gs>sw anyway because of the evade frames it just lacked some dps.Ah, I see :D Thanks for your reply! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackjinx.4975 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 @Dezember.1295 said:Hey!So for my power setup (open world / fracts) I've been running with LB and S/A. But yesterday's patch notes had me wondering if I should swap my S/A for a GS (and I did some testing, but I couldnt notice that much of a difference tbh). Obviously, best sheet damage would probably be to run GS - S/A or something, but it is very clumsy to run with double melee weapons, so I am going to keep my longbow as backup.Have you guys tested GS vs. S/A yet? What conclusions did you reach?im a big noob playing with a druid and im wondering, are you playing druid with LB and S/A ? Or are you soulbeast ??Because im running druid with Staff and Axe/warhorn , and while its awesome for support, i dont do much dmg in open world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skystorm.9280 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 from a WvW standpoint - GS + S/A/D is pretty much what ive been running successfully and even a little more so now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezember.1295 Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 @blackjinx.4975 said:@Dezember.1295 said:Hey!So for my power setup (open world / fracts) I've been running with LB and S/A. But yesterday's patch notes had me wondering if I should swap my S/A for a GS (and I did some testing, but I couldnt notice that much of a difference tbh). Obviously, best sheet damage would probably be to run GS - S/A or something, but it is very clumsy to run with double melee weapons, so I am going to keep my longbow as backup.Have you guys tested GS vs. S/A yet? What conclusions did you reach?im a big noob playing with a druid and im wondering, are you playing druid with LB and S/A ? Or are you soulbeast ??Because im running druid with Staff and Axe/warhorn , and while its awesome for support, i dont do much dmg in open world.I run Druid in WvW and general PvP for the mass-stealth, condi clearing and decent support. Other than that I run with Soulbeast in open world and fracts.When I've played druid I've usually been running with LB - S/A or S/D. In PvP I simply swap the LB for a staff :D If you enjoy druid, then I personally would recommend the power builds. From my experience, the extra healing power from gear is not required for druids unless you're playing a supportive role in PvP - you're going to have enough sustain to keep yourself and a small party of 5 happy unless you're fighting some really dangerous stuff. I ran full zerker (power + precision + ferocity) but if you want a tankier build then you can change ferocity for toughness / vitality. As for weapons, in general I keep to the idea of one melee and one ranged weapon (but that is my personal choice). If you prefer staff over longbow, I suggest keeping it - what matters most is what you enjoy! - and add a GS or S/A/W/D to deal damage up close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DedTreeJig.3245 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 For me the sword always seemed a defensive weapon while the GS is decided offensive, it provides a great deal of mobility making it easy to flank with any skill. As a ranger I only go melee offensively, if I need to evade I'll use a utility skill. I run a power build, I don't know how the S/X stacks up with a condi build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhyse.8179 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 It's GS that's the defensive weapon. Multiple evades, mobility, a block, and a stun, with reasonably short cooldowns - it's good for outplaying your opponent and wearing them down. S/A has a lot more burst with Axe 5 (if the target stands still... gah) and sustained dps from that beastly autoattack. Basically, S/A for dps and GS for defense or utility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezember.1295 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 @DeadTreeJig.6714 said:For me the sword always seemed a defensive weapon while the GS is decided offensive, it provides a great deal of mobility making it easy to flank with any skill. As a ranger I only go melee offensively, if I need to evade I'll use a utility skill. I run a power build, I don't know how the S/X stacks up with a condi build.I see, thank you for your input :)@Rhyse.8179 said:It's GS that's the defensive weapon. Multiple evades, mobility, a block, and a stun, with reasonably short cooldowns - it's good for outplaying your opponent and wearing them down. S/A has a lot more burst with Axe 5 (if the target stands still... gah) and sustained dps from that beastly autoattack. Basically, S/A for dps and GS for defense or utility.Ah, yes - that certainly makes sense! Thanks folks :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DedTreeJig.3245 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 @Rhyse.8179 said:It's GS that's the defensive weapon. Multiple evades, mobility, a block, and a stun, with reasonably short cooldowns - it's good for outplaying your opponent and wearing them down. S/A has a lot more burst with Axe 5 (if the target stands still... gah) and sustained dps from that beastly autoattack. Basically, S/A for dps and GS for defense or utility.I was talking more about play style than pure dps, you can be very aggressive/offensive with GS. With the short cooldowns and mobility I can apply constant damage and finish quickly, I use the LB for wearing them down. :) Also, I was referring to open world, not pvp.As for evades, the only GS evade is power stab (last of auto attack) and it's not much of an evade :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhyse.8179 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 @DeadTreeJig.6714 said:@Rhyse.8179 said:As for evades, the only GS evade is power stab (last of auto attack) and it's not much of an evade :) Unless they nerfed since I last looked at the tooltip, swoop has an evade during part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DedTreeJig.3245 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 @Rhyse.8179 said:@DeadTreeJig.6714 said:@Rhyse.8179 said:As for evades, the only GS evade is power stab (last of auto attack) and it's not much of an evade :) Unless they nerfed since I last looked at the tooltip, swoop has an evade during part of it.Edit: Just looked, you're correct. It has 0.5 second evade while swinging, not that helpful if you're hurting. :) IMO the only two real evades for the ranger are Lightning Reflexes (utility) and Hornet Sting (sword). Lightening Reflexes also removes a condition which is important after the Signet of Renewal nerf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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