GDchiaScrub.3241 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I'm hoping this is self explanatory! It is fairly broad so feel free to explain within the context of Open World PvE.P.S. activities are not the Jargon definition ANET gave the word when refering to key brawl etc. but anything that requires player interaction. Do not worry if this changes your view/answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliamRationem.5172 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I would have said "Average" if this were pre-LS4 PoF, but I like the new map better than the original PoF offerings and I'm assuming that's a sign of the direction we're headed in. If this were HoT, however, I would have delivered an answer closer to "perfect". I feel the HoT meta events are the best example of open world done right in any MMO I've played so far.That was my biggest disappointment with PoF. The event structure on the original maps was core Tyria all over again (read: BAD), even though I liked pretty much everything else about them. I do enjoy the bounties though. They make me feel like I never really lost those champions-on-demand from the HoT HPs I enjoyed so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipso.8653 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Its great that new expansions don't make old content obsolete, it just provides additional options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceridwen.6703 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I have the dumb today, so humour me: which activities? GW2 Activities are things like Keg Brawl, Sanctum Sprint. You say open world, so is it that you mean events like metas, small scale events, races, what? Please advise so I can vote. ;) EDIT: Link to confirm Activity in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDchiaScrub.3241 Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 @"Ceridwen.6703" said:I have the dumb today, so humour me: which activities? GW2 Activities are things like Keg Brawl, Sanctum Sprint. You say open world, so is it that you mean events like metas, small scale events, races, what? Please advise so I can vote. ;) EDIT: Link to confirm Activity in general. This is true, the Guild Wars 2 jargon for "Activity" has that definition. To be even more specific: Events, Vistas, Skill/Hero Points, Discovery, "Activity as you said," Treasures, am I missing things? Easter eggs? Oh right, Hearts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 @GDchiaScrub.3241 said:@"Ceridwen.6703" said:I have the dumb today, so humour me: which activities? GW2 Activities are things like Keg Brawl, Sanctum Sprint. You say open world, so is it that you mean events like metas, small scale events, races, what? Please advise so I can vote. ;) EDIT: Link to confirm Activity in general. This is true, the Guild Wars 2 jargon for "Activity" has that definition. To be even more specific: Events, Vistas, Skill/Hero Points, Discovery, "Activity as you said," Treasures, am I missing things? Easter eggs? Oh right, Hearts!So are you asking "what's your general opinion about the variety & challenge of things that are available to do in the open world?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceridwen.6703 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 @GDchiaScrub.3241 said:@"Ceridwen.6703" said:I have the dumb today, so humour me: which activities? GW2 Activities are things like Keg Brawl, Sanctum Sprint. You say open world, so is it that you mean events like metas, small scale events, races, what? Please advise so I can vote. ;) EDIT: Link to confirm Activity in general. This is true, the Guild Wars 2 jargon for "Activity" has that definition. To be even more specific: Events, Vistas, Skill/Hero Points, Discovery, "Activity as you said," Treasures, am I missing things? Easter eggs? Oh right, Hearts!Cheers m'dears! Have a "Helpful". <3 I think we're pretty good for stuff like this. I haven't voted "Perfect" simply because there's always more that can be done - but I'm in no real rush to see more. Although, I would like player housing (this could arguably be under the Discovery section, and would likely see us having to jump some hoops to get the shiny if it was ever implemented). That would probably make it perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDchiaScrub.3241 Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:@GDchiaScrub.3241 said:@"Ceridwen.6703" said:I have the dumb today, so humour me: which activities? GW2 Activities are things like Keg Brawl, Sanctum Sprint. You say open world, so is it that you mean events like metas, small scale events, races, what? Please advise so I can vote. ;) EDIT: Link to confirm Activity in general. This is true, the Guild Wars 2 jargon for "Activity" has that definition. To be even more specific: Events, Vistas, Skill/Hero Points, Discovery, "Activity as you said," Treasures, am I missing things? Easter eggs? Oh right, Hearts!So are you asking "what's your general opinion about the variety & challenge of things that are available to do in the open world?"General feeling is an average of your impressions. There is a lot of variety in Open World that would be hard to dispute against. Obviously we wouldn't measure challenge between a Vista and Meta event, but Meta vs. Meta is valid. It's a probing question, so if you need to be specific about explaining things by all means. I'll get more specific in the future after enough player feedback in regards to said Open World PvE content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 @GDchiaScrub.3241 said:@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:@GDchiaScrub.3241 said:@"Ceridwen.6703" said:I have the dumb today, so humour me: which activities? GW2 Activities are things like Keg Brawl, Sanctum Sprint. You say open world, so is it that you mean events like metas, small scale events, races, what? Please advise so I can vote. ;) EDIT: Link to confirm Activity in general. This is true, the Guild Wars 2 jargon for "Activity" has that definition. To be even more specific: Events, Vistas, Skill/Hero Points, Discovery, "Activity as you said," Treasures, am I missing things? Easter eggs? Oh right, Hearts!So are you asking "what's your general opinion about the variety & challenge of things that are available to do in the open world?"General feeling is an average of your impressions. There is a lot of variety in Open World that would be hard to dispute against. Obviously we wouldn't measure challenge between a Vista and Meta event, but Meta vs. Meta is valid. It's a probing question, so if you need to be specific about explaining things by all means. I'll get more specific in the future after enough player feedback in regards to said Open World PvE content.I'm sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. I don't understand what your poll is measuring. Are you asking if there are enough things to do? Enough things that are fun to do? Enough of a variety of types of things? Enough of a variety of challenges? If the maps are big enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linken.6345 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 OP why are you creating so many polls?Maybe I should make a poll if poll feature should be removed and only used by anet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDchiaScrub.3241 Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:@GDchiaScrub.3241 said:@Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:@GDchiaScrub.3241 said:@"Ceridwen.6703" said:I have the dumb today, so humour me: which activities? GW2 Activities are things like Keg Brawl, Sanctum Sprint. You say open world, so is it that you mean events like metas, small scale events, races, what? Please advise so I can vote. ;) EDIT: Link to confirm Activity in general. This is true, the Guild Wars 2 jargon for "Activity" has that definition. To be even more specific: Events, Vistas, Skill/Hero Points, Discovery, "Activity as you said," Treasures, am I missing things? Easter eggs? Oh right, Hearts!So are you asking "what's your general opinion about the variety & challenge of things that are available to do in the open world?"General feeling is an average of your impressions. There is a lot of variety in Open World that would be hard to dispute against. Obviously we wouldn't measure challenge between a Vista and Meta event, but Meta vs. Meta is valid. It's a probing question, so if you need to be specific about explaining things by all means. I'll get more specific in the future after enough player feedback in regards to said Open World PvE content.I'm sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. I don't understand what your poll is measuring. Are you asking if there are enough things to do? Enough things that are fun to do? Enough of a variety of types of things? Enough of a variety of challenges? If the maps are big enough? In time I may get more specific on the things you listed (spacing them out to reduce poll spam of course), but in short...I am measuring your total happiness when it comes to your Open World PvE experience. I am not sure how else to reword General Feeling, but happiness should be about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randulf.7614 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I don't think this poll makes any sense as it is. I would just start a new topic or change this one entirely to focus on discussing constructive thoughts about specific aspects of pve rather than having a poll for the sake of having a poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDchiaScrub.3241 Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 @Linken.6345 said:OP why are you creating so many polls?Maybe I should make a poll if poll feature should be removed and only used by anet.I am not making a bunch of polls in one section. That'd be silly, and I'd agree with you. Irony would be it'd be nice if ANET did more polls for certain aspects of the Guild Wars 2.Alas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDchiaScrub.3241 Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 @Randulf.7614 said:I don't think this poll makes any sense as it is. I would just start a new topic or change this one entirely to focus on discussing constructive thoughts about specific aspects of pve rather than having a poll for the sake of having a poll.By all means, state specifics. I'd be happy to hear them. Also I can't edit the poll itself (which has been awkward in the past). People that state what needs to be discussed specifically in this general poll will provide direction for future topics. This is starting Broad, then going into Smaller details. I do not pretend to be the bestest PvE player or well rounded to start out Small (the more finite topics you want). So it would be even more unwise for me to shoot from the hip without you all providing some direction in some form here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illconceived Was Na.9781 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 @"GDchiaScrub.3241" said:In time I may get more specific on the things you listed (spacing them out to reduce poll spam of course), but in short...I am measuring your total happiness when it comes to your Open World PvE experience. I am not sure how else to reword General Feeling, but happiness should be about right.I cannot answer your question as phrased especially with how the choices are worded. It seems like all you want to know is, "do you like Open World PvE in this game?" And the answers for that are: Yes|No|Maybe. Or if you want to go American Corporate survey style, it would be, "I like Open World PvE" with answers: Strongly Agree|Agree|Somewhat Agree|Ambivalent|Somewhat Disagree|Disagree|Strongly Disagree (and perhaps "not applicable")I have no idea what "perfect" means in the context of the original or restated question nor what "worst" means (compared to?). How is "incomplete" different from "bad"?The point of a poll in this forum is to generate discussion about specific concerns or ideas. This question is awfully vague and generic and it's impossible to describe. It's the difference between "what do you think about reading as a pastime" versus "what did you like about the book you just read?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esquilax.3491 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Well the pve game is split into several distinct sections which development practices have changed drastically over time. I would prefer to rate each section separately.Vanilla maps - 6/10LS2 maps - 9/10HOT maps - 8/10POF Maps - 7/10LS 3-4 maps - 8/10It's too hard to call something perfect because everything has flaws so I prefer to rate with numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDchiaScrub.3241 Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 @Esquilax.3491 said:Well the pve game is split into several distinct sections which development practices have changed drastically over time. I would prefer to rate each section separately.Vanilla maps - 6/10LS2 maps - 9/10HOT maps - 8/10POF Maps - 7/10LS 3-4 maps - 8/10It's too hard to call something perfect because everything has flaws so I prefer to rate with numbers.That's great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDchiaScrub.3241 Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 @Illconceived Was Na.9781 said:@"GDchiaScrub.3241" said:In time I may get more specific on the things you listed (spacing them out to reduce poll spam of course), but in short...I am measuring your total happiness when it comes to your Open World PvE experience. I am not sure how else to reword General Feeling, but happiness should be about right.I cannot answer your question as phrased especially with how the choices are worded. It seems like all you want to know is, "do you like Open World PvE in this game?" And the answers for that are: Yes|No|Maybe. Or if you want to go American Corporate survey style, it would be, "I like Open World PvE" with answers: Strongly Agree|Agree|Somewhat Agree|Ambivalent|Somewhat Disagree|Disagree|Strongly Disagree (and perhaps "not applicable")I have no idea what "perfect" means in the context of the original or restated question nor what "worst" means (compared to?). How is "incomplete" different from "bad"?The point of a poll in this forum is to generate discussion about specific concerns or ideas. This question is awfully vague and generic and it's impossible to describe. It's the difference between "what do you think about reading as a pastime" versus "what did you like about the book you just read?"The dissection of semantics is helpful, don't get me wrong. If you are unsure which of the two questions you proposed then answer both or, as you said, you cannot answer which is also fine.As far as "incomplete" goes, I was questionable if I should I include it or not. It has more context in the grading system of schools/colleges, than it does in traditional polls. The half your project you deliver was great, but the other half is missing. You can make it up later for reduced grade, or etc. In this context it is probably an overly specific form of "Bad." Luckily, given the broadness of these set of polls, I included it to test it out. I won't use it again more than likely, since players explaining their choices should (and have) been able to deduce "Incomplete" on their own anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 This is very confusing. It's not self-explanatory (to me). I think the problem is the question that is to be answered. What is meant by 'Activities'?Perhaps, the OP would 'feel free to explain within the context' of this poll.Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDchiaScrub.3241 Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 @Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:This is very confusing. It's not self-explanatory (to me). I think the problem is the question that is to be answered. What is meant by 'Activities'?Perhaps, the OP would 'feel free to explain within the context' of this poll.Thank you.Alas, can't edit polls but I think I answered this here.@GDchiaScrub.3241 said:@"Ceridwen.6703" said:I have the dumb today, so humour me: which activities? GW2 Activities are things like Keg Brawl, Sanctum Sprint. You say open world, so is it that you mean events like metas, small scale events, races, what? Please advise so I can vote. ;) EDIT: Link to confirm Activity in general. This is true, the Guild Wars 2 jargon for "Activity" has that definition. To be even more specific: Events, Vistas, Skill/Hero Points, Discovery, "Activity as you said," Treasures, am I missing things? Easter eggs? Oh right, Hearts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vavume.8065 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 @"GDchiaScrub.3241" said:To be even more specific: Events, Vistas, Skill/Hero Points, Discovery, "Activity as you said," Treasures, am I missing things? Easter eggs? Oh right, Hearts!The poll is misleading, I voted on actual activitys... a.k.a the races etc that award gold, silver and bronze... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndigoSundown.5419 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I would have said "good" if I could see the bosses in most group events. I can't. The particle spam is in the way. The only bosses I can mostly see are the Wyverns in the VB meta. This one aspect of GW2 ruins these events for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inculpatus cedo.9234 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Well, usually posters probably vote before reading past the OP. In the future, I would suggest either 'General Open World PvE' or, if this includes Story, Fractals, Raids, etc., then, just 'PvE'.Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raizel.8175 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 @"AliamRationem.5172" said:I would have said "Average" if this were pre-LS4 PoF, but I like the new map better than the original PoF offerings and I'm assuming that's a sign of the direction we're headed in. If this were HoT, however, I would have delivered an answer closer to "perfect". I feel the HoT meta events are the best example of open world done right in any MMO I've played so far.That was my biggest disappointment with PoF. The event structure on the original maps was core Tyria all over again (read: BAD), even though I liked pretty much everything else about them. I do enjoy the bounties though. They make me feel like I never really lost those champions-on-demand from the HoT HPs I enjoyed so much.+1, I really miss those large meta-events. The HoT-maps are still my favorites and I still spend a lot of time in them. The PoF-maps on the other hand... Well, after I had my griffon and completed the elite-spec-weapon-collections... @Klipso.8653 said:Its great that new expansions don't make old content obsolete, it just provides additional options.I'm not sure about that. Istan is too OP and devalues old content. Kinda hard to find a permanent RIBA-map and the like. Still could need a Bladed light armor top. Are there still decent VB-maps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tails.9372 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Most of the dynamic events are fun but they generally feel unrewarding, I'd like to see some sort of general reward system like the reward tracks / overall event currency in WvW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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