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  • I thought it was a great "quest" and hilarious. Especially the line "Get me some apple pie, dont judge me!". One of the most original quest designs ive ever seen. It took me like 8 tries to finally get it, but once I memorized where the ingredients were it was easy. Theres too much salt here, it was a really fun event lol!

  • Glacial.9516Glacial.9516 Member ✭✭✭
    edited October 3, 2017

    It was a bit frustrating. I found the chefs speech to be the most annoying part of all since he says it every time you restart (and if you fall too far behind early on, you may as well just start over).

    Take a few tries and learn where ingredients are. Don't expect to do it on your first try (but still, try to!). It can be incredibly frustrating so don't give up (or do if you find it -too- frustrating, there are plenty of mastery points available elsewhere). The bar above your head is your 'health' bar. You recover a bit when you successfully deliver a material. So it's not the end of the world if you miss one or two ingredients, just try not to miss them consecutively or hope to get a couple quick ones to make up for it. I found it considerably easier to do alone. When there were other players in the area I found it confusing and sometimes I even mistook them for the chef when I was throwing in a hurry.

  • @Abakk.9176 said:
    Although i was foaming at the mouth at some point i eventually did it.

    The one that does me in is the MP memory game in the desert.

    I have a wonky short term memory due to a stroke and i can't even get through the second set ...lol :anguished:

    That one is a lot easier if you mentally number them either clockwise or counter-clockwise (whichever seems to make the most sense for you) and then record the number to repeat back.

  • No way to do it because IT"S INFINITE. He just keeps going on forever until I fail.

  • PopeUrban.2578PopeUrban.2578 Member ✭✭✭
    edited October 10, 2017

    I miss GW1 vanquisher titles. They were a reason to revisit every nook and cranny of maps you'd otherwise completely used up.

    Now that we have masteries that actually have content (and even some of the existing HoT and PoF masteries are locked behind content) how about doing something similar?

    The idea of vanquisher was to repurpose old content in a way that made it more challenging, and granted a reward for playing it at a higher challenge level right?

    What if we used mastry points present on maps in a similar system by adding a timer, and you can only do it if you've alrady completed the map and obtained all the mastery points on it?

    E.G. Talk to an NPC or use an item to start a "Mastery Run" countdown. Your goal is to obtain every mastery point on the map within the time limit. You can attempt this once per day. and get a little event chest for each one you get. If you can get them all within the time limit, get a title related to the zone (Master of the Crystal Oasis, etc.) and part of a meta-achievement that grants a unique skin and another more impressive title (Master of Magumma, Master of the Crystal Desert)

    Heck you could even use the leaderboard UI that adventures use to make it a bit of friendly competition, compare your run time against others, etc.

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  • Hana.8143Hana.8143 Member ✭✭✭

    It’s not infinite, but it’s pretty long.
    Do not rush, let him walk if he walks, then throw the item.
    If you have problem remembering the location of an item, try to check the locations before you start, and imagine something funny which can force your brain to memorize the scene, and so the location (you just need imagination !)
    That might looks weird but it works ! ^^
    No drugs needed, I swear !

  • OriOri.8724OriOri.8724 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Witch of Doom.5739 said:

    @OriOri.8724 said:
    IDK what people are complaining about. I avoided it until yesterday because people were complaining so loudly about it and I didn't want to waste the little free time I had on it. I spent 3 tries learning where the ingredients where, and then on the fourth I completed it with no problem.

    Its not a hard challenge, really. It just takes some spatial awareness on your part, and knowing where to run for the next ingredient as soon as he yells it at you.

    Typical "I can get it so everyone who can't is lame." I know where the ingredients are, I know the chef's path, and I know how to play it. But every time I've tried it he asks for ingredients on opposite sides of the room, back and forth, back and forth, and I run out of time. You got it? Good for you. It's frustrating for many players posting here and for who knows how many that don't post. I agree with the above suggestion to make it a hero point instead of a mastery point.

    P.S. There's a reason the other sous chef is off crying in a corner in the kitchen.

    I didn't call anyone "lame", all I said is that it takes some practice. But good on you for someone taking offense at that. The difficulty of this is fine, here are some tips for this exact situation though if you are still struggling.

    • After you throw it at him, go run to the middle of the room. This potentially cuts the distance you have to run in half, and you have to wait for him to tell you the next ingredient anyway so its not like you are wasting time
    • If you are too far away, pick up a different item and use Skill 1 to get the swiftness from it to get there faster.

    All this takes is some practice, its really not as overtuned as people say it is

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  • Zaltys.7649Zaltys.7649 Member ✭✭✭
    edited October 10, 2017

    @Engelsstaub.4356 said:
    No way to do it because IT"S INFINITE. He just keeps going on forever until I fail.

    Yeah, it'll keep going until you fail. But as long as you manage to get ten in one go, you get the mastery.

  • Witch of Doom.5739Witch of Doom.5739 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @OriOri.8724 said:

    @Witch of Doom.5739 said:

    @OriOri.8724 said:
    IDK what people are complaining about. I avoided it until yesterday because people were complaining so loudly about it and I didn't want to waste the little free time I had on it. I spent 3 tries learning where the ingredients where, and then on the fourth I completed it with no problem.

    Its not a hard challenge, really. It just takes some spatial awareness on your part, and knowing where to run for the next ingredient as soon as he yells it at you.

    Typical "I can get it so everyone who can't is lame." I know where the ingredients are, I know the chef's path, and I know how to play it. But every time I've tried it he asks for ingredients on opposite sides of the room, back and forth, back and forth, and I run out of time. You got it? Good for you. It's frustrating for many players posting here and for who knows how many that don't post. I agree with the above suggestion to make it a hero point instead of a mastery point.

    P.S. There's a reason the other sous chef is off crying in a corner in the kitchen.

    I didn't call anyone "lame", all I said is that it takes some practice. But good on you for someone taking offense at that. The difficulty of this is fine, here are some tips for this exact situation though if you are still struggling.

    • After you throw it at him, go run to the middle of the room. This potentially cuts the distance you have to run in half, and you have to wait for him to tell you the next ingredient anyway so its not like you are wasting time
    • If you are too far away, pick up a different item and use Skill 1 to get the swiftness from it to get there faster.

    All this takes is some practice, its really not as overtuned as people say it is

    I didn't say you literally called anyone lame. Whatever. As I have said numerous times, I understand the game and the strategy. I simply can't get it. Some puzzles and mastery points are easy for me and some are not. I'm not wasting any more time on this and have enough mastery points from all the other places on the maps.

    For those who do enjoy this mini-game, I hope ANet makes it replayable for you. Personally I would love an Achievement called Kill the Chef. ;)

  • Biff.5312Biff.5312 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I can't even get this one. When I start it, he simply never calls anything out, and my timer expires. And because I can't get THIS mastery, I can't upgrade my mount, and therefor I can't REACH any of the other mastery points. So I'm screwed because this one doesn't work.

  • kharmin.7683kharmin.7683 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Biff.5312 said:
    I can't even get this one. When I start it, he simply never calls anything out, and my timer expires. And because I can't get THIS mastery, I can't upgrade my mount, and therefor I can't REACH any of the other mastery points. So I'm screwed because this one doesn't work.

    You should be able to get mastery points through the story-line. I got many of mine there which enabled me to upgrade mounts which, in turn, allowed me to get more mastery points and so on...

    I am a very casual player.
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  • It took me a few tries to figure it out, but I had the location of all the ingredients memorized it wasn't so bad. The most annoying this was small things blocking the throw. Just have to wait until he just stops running and toss it there just as he gets to his new location. Though I had no idea about filling the bar, thought it was just timed or number of ingredients.

    completed it on 2 different accounts... rather glad it's just a one shot thing myself.

  • PopeUrban.2578PopeUrban.2578 Member ✭✭✭

    There's a checkbox in options to always show the nametags of interactable objects . That should help you out some.

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  • Shikigami.4013Shikigami.4013 Member ✭✭✭

    As there are more mastery points than you can use, noone ever has to do this if he does not want to.

    If this one mastery point that is harder to do than just run up and "commune" with it or kill a mob ticks someone off enough to rant and demand it do be made easier, that person has issues. Not everything in the game has to be designed in a way that everyone playing the game can just run up and do it on first try.

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  • Etterwyn.5263Etterwyn.5263 Member ✭✭✭

    @PopeUrban.2578 said:
    There's a checkbox in options to always show the nametags of interactable objects . That should help you out some.

    If you turn on "Snap cursor to ground target" it helps a ton too. Click on the chef and have him targeted before you even begin the event, and your throws will never miss unless he starts moving before your toss gets to him.

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  • My word, that was irritating. The 'snap ground target to current target' advice was a game-changer though. Turn this on, memorize the positions and don't forget there's an option on the 1 key to speed up. Avoid obstacles in the way of the throw and you should be able to chuck it at him from a good distance. Good luck.

  • Sojourner.4621Sojourner.4621 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Etterwyn.5263 said:

    @PopeUrban.2578 said:
    There's a checkbox in options to always show the nametags of interactable objects . That should help you out some.

    If you turn on "Snap cursor to ground target" it helps a ton too. Click on the chef and have him targeted before you even begin the event, and your throws will never miss unless he starts moving before your toss gets to him.

    Yes, Targetting: Fast With Range Indicator
    Snap cursor to ground Target
    show interactable objects.
    Always have the chef targetted with ctrl+t so even if you lose focus on him by accident you can press T again to retarget.
    Wait until he stops to throw
    Memorize the item locations

  • I did not enjoy this item, I cannot successfully complete this item, and I'm likely not going to try again until I hear they've done something to make it less annoying and more .. well, possible. Sure, many people can do it, but the way it's set up now, I cannot... so yeah, ok, whatever, I clearly stink at gaming... but y'know, it'd be nice to have locked content (i.e., mastery points for mount use/skill) not be sitting behind things that require extreme dexterity and response time (two things I just don't have).

  • @Rikimaru.7890 said:
    So last stress test I did a mastery point that requires you to take on the role of a Sous Chef and throw ingredients at the Head Chef he tells you to bring while he runs around the kitchen.
    It was quite amusing to do but the thing is I find it to be a huge waste of time from the developers. I don't mean it's bad or anything, it's just that since it's a mastery point you can only do it once and only once, as unlike Hero Point's, Mastery Point's are per account not per character.
    So I find it a waste to create a mini-game that that we can only play once.
    Maybe it will be possible to redo it like some Hero Point's for additional rewards, but I doubt it and it would never be as popular as HP trains in HoT.
    So is this a mistake from ANET and it was suppose to be a Hero Point?

    Select the option for "show all usable objects," or you'll have no chance.

  • Ardid.7203Ardid.7203 Member ✭✭✭✭

    There is nothing extreme in this challenge. You just need patience and perseverance. Remember you can launch things at him: shoot where he is going to be, not where he is (Dont shoot unless you are sure he's quiet or know where he is going). Stay in the angle of the room, so you can quickly access anywhere, and come back to this point if you are waiting for the next order. Memorize the plates places and prhases, they are quite distinguishable.
    I took my time to get this, I think I needed 7 or 8 times to do it right. But it wasn't extreme at all.

  • sorudo.9054sorudo.9054 Member ✭✭✭✭

    it took me about 15 tries and i still don't have it, for someone who isn't that fast anjd has a concentration of a baseball this is impossible to do for me.
    maybe when you have a memory of an archive it's easy, i can barely keep 3 incridience in mind and there are allot more then that.

    two ways to make it bareable tho.
    1. lower the amount of incridience
    2. don't make the chef walk

    it's bad enough that i need to remember a ton of incridience, it's only getting worse if he doesn't stand still.

  • TheQuickFox.3826TheQuickFox.3826 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I finally got this one finished after giving up on it multiple times. I finally was lucky and gut quite a few requests for nearby ingredients and the same ingredients repeated. While I consider this one quite a frustrating mastery point to get, it is good to know that in the end you will get an excess of mastery points so you have room to skip a few and still end up with enough mastery point to max your level.

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  • DamnQQ.1072DamnQQ.1072 Member
    edited June 10, 2018

    One of the worst quests ever, it makes me want to destroy this kitten city as well.

  • Brycar.2651Brycar.2651 Member ✭✭✭

    The chef follows the same path every time. Just remember the path. Toss the ingredient a half second ahead of time where he will be. Also target the chef.

  • Steve The Cynic.3217Steve The Cynic.3217 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Brycar.2651 said:
    Also target the chef.

    And when you aim your throws, if you're aiming manually, aim at his feet because that's how manual aiming works.

    @Biff.5312 said:
    Exercise your whimsy.

  • casualkenny.9817casualkenny.9817 Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 11, 2018

    Iirc, you can also jump onto the middle table and any other obstacle, and throw from there, saves a little bit of time and won't get obstructed, plus you will be in the middle. Don't panic-throw while he is moving, and if you don't lock target (I did not), aim the aoe so that he is at the corner of it, and that even if he started moving while you threw, you still have a good chance to hit (don't panic throw)

    I've done it 3 times (once was in test server)

    The sense I've gotten from mapchats and guildchats, though, was that either you find it easy or crazy-hard... If you find it crazyhard, just move on - you play games for leisure, not to aggravate yourself. If you are stuck on mps, try asking on map for mesmers to port you on gated mps

    P. S. I never tried it before, but wondering if a party mate can swift u while u are doing it?

  • Steve The Cynic.3217Steve The Cynic.3217 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @casualkenny.9817 said:
    P. S. I never tried it before, but wondering if a party mate can swift u while u are doing it?

    Probably, and don't forget that there aren't any foes around if you do it during the day (YMMV at night when the casino coin stuff is up), so you can switch out and wear some junky gear fitted with six Superior Runes of the Traveller and get a speed boost that way.

    @Biff.5312 said:
    Exercise your whimsy.

  • Ayakaru.6583Ayakaru.6583 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 11, 2018

    I'm reading through everyone's complaints here, and honestly don't get it.
    Yes, it was hard, but was 'practice makes perfect' kind of hard.
    I'm took me three days of several tries, until i started remembering where all the ingredients were.
    It then helps to turn off auto target and turn on target at cursor (instant cast).
    Followed by that, with some practice you'll learn how long he stands still at each post.

    Long story short, this MP was designed around not being completed in a single try like 99% of this games content. But its still not hard-hard. Just practice-hard

    And if you still can't make it, remember anet hands out MP's like candy on saint Maartens (or Halloween). So if you miss this one, there'll be at least 10 other MP's to replace it.
    I'm still waiting for a vendor-ish thing for all my dead HoT MP's

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  • casualkenny.9817casualkenny.9817 Member ✭✭✭

    @Ayakaru.6583 said:
    I'm reading through everyone's complaints here, and honestly don't get it.
    Yes, it was hard, but was 'practice makes perfect' kind of hard.

    i don't pretend to know how hard it is for those struggling with it, but i don't think you are helping them by putting it this way ... some ppl really aren't built for this somehow, and they have been doing it for hours

    like, i know for sure that there are ppl who get it on their 2nd try, and possibly even on the 1st try. ppl are just built differently

  • Ayakaru.6583Ayakaru.6583 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @casualkenny.9817 said:

    @Ayakaru.6583 said:
    I'm reading through everyone's complaints here, and honestly don't get it.
    Yes, it was hard, but was 'practice makes perfect' kind of hard.

    i don't pretend to know how hard it is for those struggling with it, but i don't think you are helping them by putting it this way ... some ppl really aren't built for this somehow, and they have been doing it for hours

    Hence i put a few tips below it

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  • this is got to be the stupidest thing I have ever done I have been trying this for days and keep failing I wouldn't mind just skipping it BUT I CAN'T CONTINUE THE STORY without the kitten point to get raptor canyon jumping

  • Palador.2170Palador.2170 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Samundus.2074 said:
    this is got to be the stupidest thing I have ever done I have been trying this for days and keep failing I wouldn't mind just skipping it BUT I CAN'T CONTINUE THE STORY without the kitten point to get raptor canyon jumping

    If all else fails, maybe you can find a mesmer to port you past the quicksand in the north so you can get the mastery point up there? Then you can come back to the chef when you feel like trying your luck again.

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  • Tanner Blackfeather.6509Tanner Blackfeather.6509 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 21, 2019

    @Samundus.2074 said:
    this is got to be the stupidest thing I have ever done I have been trying this for days and keep failing I wouldn't mind just skipping it BUT I CAN'T CONTINUE THE STORY without the kitten point to get raptor canyon jumping

    Check other achievements as well - there are plenty of available points, you don't have to rely on only the ones shown on the map. I've never gotten that one either.

  • eh? the sous chef mp was one of the last mp I got - after all the stuff in Kourna and Jahai. There are so many mp to get... I really do not see the problem.

  • I've never completed that Mastery Point, and I've maxed out all PoF Mastery Tracks/Points.

  • Loosmaster.8263Loosmaster.8263 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 21, 2019

    @Inculpatus cedo.9234 said:
    I've never completed that Mastery Point, and I've maxed out all PoF Mastery Tracks/Points.

    Same. I went back a bit ago and tried again and gave up.

    The one in the new map is a sort of milder and forgivable version.

    Playing the PvE scene because WvW is just "BAD"...

  • Yeah, the new one is easy.

  • The old one I just kept repeating until he finally gave me some easy, repeated items. Water several times, and apple pie. lol But yeah, you can get a mesmer (if you're on NA I'll help) to get past that point. Also, check Dulfy guides for other masteries.

  • Menadena.7482Menadena.7482 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Samundus.2074 said:
    this is got to be the stupidest thing I have ever done I have been trying this for days and keep failing I wouldn't mind just skipping it BUT I CAN'T CONTINUE THE STORY without the kitten point to get raptor canyon jumping

    Do you have season 4? You can get the points in the various chapters as well. Another alternative is to do more chapters of POF.

    New to the game? Feel free to give a yell if you need PVE help.

  • @Samundus.2074 said:
    this is got to be the stupidest thing I have ever done I have been trying this for days and keep failing I wouldn't mind just skipping it BUT I CAN'T CONTINUE THE STORY without the kitten point to get raptor canyon jumping

    you can ask for some mesmer or thief to help you get an extra point somewhere else. i'd be glad to help you with it, just mail me ingame (:

  • Eloc Freidon.5692Eloc Freidon.5692 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 23, 2019

    Yes, it was a massive waste of dev time to make this a one and done thing. So many hero points and masteries in PoF (like the simon says one) could have been swapped to make this content repeatable.

    They've talked about repeatable content, but even in the new release they really failed in that desire considering Jory's achievement in the new map. Experience it once and never again.

    I'd love to see a pass going through all these so we can get to play all that content again. Is there a list online somewhere that keeps track of this sort of thing?

  • Chromez.6102Chromez.6102 Member
    edited December 3, 2019

    I swear to everything heaven on earth, this kitten event is a waste of freaking time, no indication for how long it lasts, whenever you throw his kitten at him, it doesn't either hit EVEN when ya mouse is over his fat kitten, freaking kitten this kitten is frustrating as kitten and the person / people who made this, should get ya nuts cut off..

    EDIT: Aight, imma keep what I wrote, but I found out using the indicator (as in spell indicator) makes it 300% easier, tried without (dont ask why) had like 10 tries, no success, once with indicator (only one time) and got it.