Razor.6392 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 I'll add builds per class that reached popularity off the top of my head, and see which classes had the least amount of viable stuff in all this time. Feel free to suggest some if I forget them.WarriorHambowMace condi berserkerCele shoutbowSettler / cleric shoutbowSpellbreaker100blades with frenzy (?)GS + hammerCele axeGuardianVanilla meditation guardSymbolic DH(?)core valk hammer 2017Meta DH (1 trap)Trapper (HoT release)FirebrandBurn firebrand(?)Altruistic vanilla bunker RevenantMeta heraldViper revVentari bunkerThiefCondi s/d daredevilCondi d/d daredevil (before s/d buffs)Acro vanilla s/dCrit strikes vanilla d/pShadow arts vanilla d/pPanic strike vanilla d/pAcro staff daredevilD/p daredevil2017 core s/dS/p on release (pw dmg nerfed immediately)S/p some years later (pw ini increased immediately and forgotten)Non acro staff daredevil(?) I remember a top thief said this was better than d/p at some point.RangerVanilla spirit rangerVanilla trap condi rangerMeta druid with smokescale / bristleback and ancient seeds (HoT release)Bunker druid 2017Pewpew ranger (pre point blank shot visual tweak)Engineer100nades Cele rifleHammer scrapperHolosmithStatic discharge rifle(?)Turret fucking engiVanilla pistol condi engi(?)Soldier amulet rifleMesmerBunker mesmer (HoT release)Condi chronoCondi mirageVanilla power shatterAny mesmer with a portalNecroCele signet necroChill condi reaperPower lich form necroDhuumfire pre-nerf condi vanilla necroCurses condi scourgeBlood magic condi scourgeMinionmancer(?)ElementalistBunker tempest Bunker staffCele d/dShoutouts to elementalists dominating pvp since release doe. /sIf I missed some, or if you think some of these builds were never top, then I'll remove them. My memory is blurry after all this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ario.8964 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 For engi you missed marauder rifle as meta right before HoT release and elixer engi which has been off and on since release of the game. Ranger for awhile right after the rapid fire rate increase had some power ranger sniper builds going on. Survival condi ranger was briefly meta during cele age. Wasn't super meta but FA ele has been a thing for most of the existence of the game (never dominated but has been present at times)Those are the only ones I can think of outside of your list atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggityzog.7389 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 I miss core necro. Fire, blood trait and minions. such a tankmode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor.6392 Posted December 23, 2017 Author Share Posted December 23, 2017 @Ario.8964 said:For engi you missed marauder rifle as meta right before HoT release and elixer engi which has been off and on since release of the game. Ranger for awhile right after the rapid fire rate increase had some power ranger sniper builds going on. Survival condi ranger was briefly meta during cele age. Wasn't super meta but FA ele has been a thing for most of the existence of the game (never dominated but has been present at times)Those are the only ones I can think of outside of your list atmYeah I thought about FA ele but it has never been a must pick, nor did it excel at any role over other comparable classes. Sad really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witcher.3197 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Ele had cele staffWar had the Axe/bow buildThe vanilla bunker guard you're looking for is the Altruistic Healing oneProbably still missing some but can't remember them atm. Remove soulbeast btw, not much better than Renegade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeceiverX.8361 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Can't really say this is a matter of what's viable or what isn't. The meta doesn't change when something more optimal doesn't pop up. Further, tank/cele builds fell out not because of innate profession imbalance but because the defensive amulets themselves were removed.You'd have to break it down in a timeline and look for overlap rather than just the number of builds in the meta over the years for a more accurate portrayal. Otherwise all you're really looking at is the number of times the meta has changed within the confines of the classes, which really doesn't speak anything about build diversity.Which based on the low numbers for some classes, suggests the game is not at all diverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayAction.9056 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Cele axe/bow warrior (one of the best damage builds in game). Could 1v2 quite easily, 3v5 and getting kills was often. It was a lot better than hambow imoZerker stance warr was meta all pre-HOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sindrener.1592 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Warrior berserk gs shield mace non condi and condi was m/s lb. You forget rom playing gs hammer pre hot too in wts cologne.Was 2 versions of shoutbow too one cele era and later on cleric/settler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xibalbar.7459 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Auramancer staff season 1 and 2 on cele/cleric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undo.5091 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Soldier rifle engi w/ nades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zintrothen.1056 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 It really is amazing that Eles were pretty much gods till PoF. Now we're just good but overshadowed by better professions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreams.3128 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Eles are not good anymore?What do eles bring to the table anymore??And after the first set of nerfs to auramancer it fell off and just became good, not god-like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor.6392 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 @Lilyanna.9361 said:Eles are not good anymore?What do eles bring to the table anymore??And after the first set of nerfs to auramancer it fell off and just became good, not god-likeIn case you're responding to the above post I'm pretty sure that was sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sindrener.1592 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 You also forget D/P SA thief pre hot, or D/P panic strike thief with old system 60206. You also played D/D soldier ele before cele existed, think cleric was also played. S/D ele was also played in the early stage of the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liewec.2896 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 ah the early days of Bullrush Frenzy 100b XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buran.3796 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 @"Razor.6392" said:Ventari bunkerThis wasn't even close to being "meta". Maybe in bronce-silver, but hardly saw one at gold and I guess it was extremely easy to counter by plat-legend players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor.6392 Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 @bluri.2653 said:You also forget D/P SA thief pre hot, or D/P panic strike thief with old system 60206. You also played D/D soldier ele before cele existed, think cleric was also played. S/D ele was also played in the early stage of the gameI don't remember either of those ele builds being top tier. Especially S/D back when fresh air or lightning rod didn't exist. Maybe very few eles mastered it (not me) but I never stumbled upon it outside 1 dude in wvw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ario.8964 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 D/D soldier's cele was used for a bit up until cele got buffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killthehealersffs.8940 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Valk Ele 2013 Phantaram (the amulet had Power + Toughnes (edit) + 20% crit) and he got Fury (extra 20%) from the Switch Attument trait Mace or Axe+Shield / Hammer Warrior + a trait that increase damage done to stunned targets by 50% (the community created that spec 9-10 months after the nerf of Haste (in all classes) .When the trait was nerfed to 20% bonus damage to stunned , they gave them Cleanisng Ire + 25% speed ifthey have ameele weapon + Buffed Healing Signet ... then the procced to to Ban that Gorgeous Hairy Mesmer ....Then Sword/Bow condition was used (2 months later) .Then Axe-Shield / Axe-mace and too many F1 for 6-7kcrits :PThen we had some qualifiers tournaments ...and some random WvWvW team using the Hammerbow with Healing Shouts (was mocked by the twitch viewers as worthless spec) and later on used by the pros :PAnd then some hate about bunker wars 2 or something :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witcher.3197 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 @Buran.3796 said:@"Razor.6392" said:Ventari bunkerThis wasn't even close to being "meta". Maybe in bronce-silver, but hardly saw one at gold and I guess it was extremely easy to counter by plat-legend players.It started becoming a thing in upper plat (EU) some weeks before the nerfs actually. Not meta but sometimes you'd even have 2 in a match and it was the most annoying thing ever. It could decap regardless of how many players were around, making it super forgiving to lose fights because the ventari rev could just erase the lead you got by spamming knockback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeceiverX.8361 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 @Razor.6392 said:@bluri.2653 said:You also forget D/P SA thief pre hot, or D/P panic strike thief with old system 60206. You also played D/D soldier ele before cele existed, think cleric was also played. S/D ele was also played in the early stage of the gameI don't remember either of those ele builds being top tier. Especially S/D back when fresh air or lightning rod didn't exist. Maybe very few eles mastered it (not me) but I never stumbled upon it outside 1 dude in wvw.That dude was a pro player and is/was the best thief in the entirety of GW2 so I'm going to say he's probably right on what pros played what :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor.6392 Posted December 25, 2017 Author Share Posted December 25, 2017 @DeceiverX.8361 said:@Razor.6392 said:@bluri.2653 said:You also forget D/P SA thief pre hot, or D/P panic strike thief with old system 60206. You also played D/D soldier ele before cele existed, think cleric was also played. S/D ele was also played in the early stage of the gameI don't remember either of those ele builds being top tier. Especially S/D back when fresh air or lightning rod didn't exist. Maybe very few eles mastered it (not me) but I never stumbled upon it outside 1 dude in wvw.That dude was a pro player and is/was the best thief in the entirety of GW2 so I'm going to say he's probably right on what pros played what :PHaha, are we thinking of the same guy? It was a male asura doing magic with scep/dag. Could never kill him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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