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Game alt-tabbing or flashing desktop [merged]

circuitnerd.5863circuitnerd.5863 Member ✭✭✭

Within just the past several days my game has randomly been alt-tabbing to the desktop once in a while. Typically it only happens once per login. Has anyone else been experiencing this lately as well? I've completely formatted my computer and everything but no change. It's kind of annoying but luckily it doesn't happen much.

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  • ThomasC.1056ThomasC.1056 Member ✭✭✭

    Hello,

    I've got that little "issue" that doesn't really impair functionnality, but I'm curious about it.

    When I launch the game (before character selection), the "black" screen blinks with my desktop and whatever would be opened on it. Likewise, when I switch map, I also get blinks of the desktop. I run Win 10 on my 2 PCs, and both of them do it. I'm not sure it's GC related, since they don't have the same one. So I'm a bit perplex.

    On a (maybe) related topic : I can't use Alt+Tab in game : the screen goes black, blinks some time with the desktop, then goes back to GW2. Just as if the computer was looking for something to switch to, and goes back to GW2. I have to go windowed mode to be able to do something else while GW2 is running.

    Any ideas about that ?

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  • I have the same issue with the desktop blinking. I tried the repair utility and didn't resolve the issue. I can ALT+Tab in game however. I ended up submitting a ticket.

  • Zakka.2153Zakka.2153 Member ✭✭✭

    I've notice this also. It only does it on load screens. Doesn't bother me too much.

  • Ardid.7203Ardid.7203 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I get this behavior sometimes with the launcher of the game itself, before even pressing "Play".

  • It happens here as well and seems to have started a few patches back. It doesn't seem to affect the game, so I'm not concerned about it.

  • I've had this problem with GW1 and GW2. Ever since I started playing in 2006. I've swapped several PCs throughout the years. Nothing's changed. Doesn't happen in Windowed Mode, only in Full-screen.

  • I don't think it's anything to worry about. It's certainly not an uncommon thing with games. Basically, it's initializing the video driver and reserving the screen before it renders the character selection screen. You'll also notice that after the first blink, while you see see your desktop and start menu, you can't use the start menu or task bar. Again, this is normal.

  • This issue is specifically what kills gsync for me until I alt tab back and forth after the map load. If I'm in Fullscreen, then gsync simply isnt working, as my monitor reports just 144fps even though the game is running something much lower. If I am in Windowed Fullscreen, the game runs in 15 fps presumably because gsync thinks the window focus has changed, so it's syncing with a background window or something until I alt tab back and forth again.

  • Abelisk.4527Abelisk.4527 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2, 2018

    Yes. Happens to me too.

    My guess is it has something to do with Steam.

  • @Abelisk.4527 said:
    Yes. Happens to me too.

    My guess is it has something to do with Steam.

    Well... I don't have Steam installed so.. The only things that are currently running at the same time as the game is Avast, Logitech Mouse and Nvidia Settings. And I've never had this problem till just this past week. So, idk what the deal is.

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  • Ardenwolfe.8590Ardenwolfe.8590 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2, 2018

    Ah. I have this happening to me too and, yes, I also have Steam on my system. Always wondered why it sometimes tabs out. Thank you. I also use Nvidia, so the issue might be there as well.

    Edit: Did a little research. Apparently, it's a combination of Windows updates and Nvidia. https://www.sevenforums.com/gaming/86193-issue-fullscreen-games-switching-back-desktop.html

    Some are recommending changing the resolution. Either way, hope the above information helps.

  • @Ardenwolfe.8590 said:
    Ah. I have this happening to me too and, yes, I also have Steam on my system. Always wondered why it sometimes tabs out. Thank you. I also you Nvidia, so the issue might be there as well.

    Edit: Did a little research. Apparently, it's a combination of Windows updates and Nvidia. https://www.sevenforums.com/gaming/86193-issue-fullscreen-games-switching-back-desktop.html

    Some are recommending changing the resolution. Either way, hope the above information helps.

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  • Inculpatus cedo.9234Inculpatus cedo.9234 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2, 2018

    It's happened to me (only recently), and I don't have Steam, nor any kind of Windows updates (still on Win7 with all updates turned off), so it's not that. I do have Avast, a Logitech Mouse (old), but no NVidia.

  • Abelisk.4527Abelisk.4527 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @circuitnerd.5863 said:

    @Abelisk.4527 said:
    Yes. Happens to me too.

    My guess is it has something to do with Steam.

    Well... I don't have Steam installed so.. The only things that are currently running at the same time as the game is Avast, Logitech Mouse and Nvidia Settings. And I've never had this problem till just this past week. So, idk what the deal is.

    Ooh, interesting! That eliminates that idea.

  • Zedek.8932Zedek.8932 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 2, 2018

    There are programs that can (and do) put themselves into the front of even full-screen applications. This nonsense happened to me since Win10 (I skipped Win8). For example, when I am playing Dishonored and in League of Legends the matchmaking found a match, it pauses and minimizes Dishonored and puts LoL in front. Since Flash is hardware-accelerated, this tabbing out of fullscreen applications is becoming more and more of a problem when I keep a Flash player open, e.g. Youtube while playing full-screen applications.

    In Win7, no matter how pressured a program was (yellow blinking icon in the taskbar), it stayed in the back of programs run in fullscreen. Now every little mini gadget can do that, and Windows loves to pass that request and force-minimize (the "Alt+Tab" bevaviour) on everything..

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  • notebene.3190notebene.3190 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Which is why I play all my games in full screen borderless windows. Then notifications can pop while I play, and I kinda like the multi-tasking. They pop over my mini-map (in this game) which is occasionally distracting, but usually not a big deal. Plus I can Win-Tab around easier and what not. Navigate multiple instances of the same or different games easier.

    In the event I don't get a chance, thank you all for the company and help when I needed it from time to time.

  • ReaverKane.7598ReaverKane.7598 Member ✭✭✭✭

    This kind of things are less likely to do with the game but other stuff that is running concurrently.

  • Ardenwolfe.8590Ardenwolfe.8590 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2, 2018

    Oops. Yep, that link's a little dated. A little more research showed me that it still happens to a lot people. I still say it has something to do with Windows and/or NVidia, but I can't find proof of it. A lot of speculation, but nothing concrete.

    Edit: Some are claiming this is the issue and fix: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-3431089/games-randomly-tabbing.html

    I'll try it myself and see if I get any more alt-tabbing out. :)

  • It may not be related, since I am on the Mac version, but I also have the problem of the game being bumped to the background frequently. Sometimes it's by a message saying I need to update DiVX, sometimes it's trying to get me to log into iCloud (which I don't use), sometimes it's just a moment when all my controls stop working and the toolbar icons appear on the side. It's really aggravating when it happens during a battle or JP or something where losing control means death or failure.

    I don't have NVidia (I have Intel Iris.) I do have Steam installed, but not running.

  • Anchoku.8142Anchoku.8142 Member ✭✭✭✭

    This happens to me, too; pop-up alerts in Win10 taking priority over the game.

  • Crinn.7864Crinn.7864 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Tabbing out is caused when window focus is stolen by another program. There could be any number of programs that could cause this. My recommendation would be to get a focus logging tool to run in the background while you play, and if focus gets stolen you can look at the focus logger to see which program was being a jerk.

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  • Khisanth.2948Khisanth.2948 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Zedek.8932 said:
    There are programs that can (and do) put themselves into the front of even full-screen applications. This nonsense happened to me since Win10 (I skipped Win8). For example, when I am playing Dishonored and in League of Legends the matchmaking found a match, it pauses and minimizes Dishonored and puts LoL in front. Since Flash is hardware-accelerated, this tabbing out of fullscreen applications is becoming more and more of a problem when I keep a Flash player open, e.g. Youtube while playing full-screen applications.

    In Win7, no matter how pressured a program was (yellow blinking icon in the taskbar), it stayed in the back of programs run in fullscreen. Now every little mini gadget can do that, and Windows loves to pass that request and force-minimize (the "Alt+Tab" bevaviour) on everything..

    Excelisior.

    I had this happening for a while and that was back before I switched to win10 so win7 isn't much better in that regard.

  • I also have this problem from 10 days. Software running: Avast, Afternburn with RivaTuner. Win10 full updated.

  • Khisanth.2948Khisanth.2948 Member ✭✭✭✭

    You can use http://www.adminscope.com/downloads/window-focus-logger-gui/ to see which app is stealing focus

  • AVG used to do that to me, so maybe it is your antivirus doing it to you.

  • titje.2745titje.2745 Member ✭✭✭

    i have this sometimes its annoying. also i remember this by a tp-link wifi adapter software that keep the games alt tabbing :P just quit it and its fine :D

  • Ardenwolfe.8590Ardenwolfe.8590 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 3, 2018

    Update: So far, after using the suggestion in the link above, I haven't automatically alt-tabbed from any more games. :)

  • Heather.4823Heather.4823 Member ✭✭
    edited April 30, 2018

    My computer decided to install the Win 10 April update and since then when on a loading screen the game flicks to desktop for 10 seconds or so then back to game.

    Anyone know how to get rid of this?

    Edit: I work with computers for a living before people suggest the basic stuff, ive tried all that. Trying to find someone that had the same problems and fixed it..

  • Ashantara.8731Ashantara.8731 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 30, 2018

    @Heather.4823 said:
    My computer decided to install the Win 10 April update [...]

    Computers don't make decisions like that. ;) You decided to leave automatic updates activated instead of updating at your own convenience.

    As for your issue, sorry, I don't use Windows 10. Maybe you can share what processes are running in the background? Have you added the GW2 game folder to your antivirus' behavior shield's list of exceptions?

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  • Heather.4823Heather.4823 Member ✭✭
    edited April 30, 2018

    @Ashantara.8731 said:

    @Heather.4823 said:
    My computer decided to install the Win 10 April update [...]

    Computers don't make decisions like that. ;) You decided to leave automatic updates activated instead of updating at your own convenience.

    As for your issue, sorry, I don't use Windows 10. Maybe you can share what processes are running in the background? Have you added the GW2 game folder to your antivirus' behavior shield's list of exceptions?

    Its windows 10 so you dont update at convience really, it’s update now or disable in services. Plus that doesn’t help my problem....

    Ive checked and even disabled some processes, disabled antivius and firewall and it doesnt help. Reinstalled graphics driver etc.

    I work in IT for a living so ive tried all the basic stuff.

    Just wondered if anyone had similar and actually fixed it

  • Ashantara.8731Ashantara.8731 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 30, 2018

    @Heather.4823 said:
    [...]
    Just wondered if anyone had similar and actually fixed it

    Since you work in IT, I don't dare ask further questions. ;) Hope someone can help you. Good luck.

    P.S. I'd disable the automatic update in services, if it was my PC, and don't download any version update until it's known to be stable or has fixes shipped in.

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  • @Ashantara.8731 said:

    @Heather.4823 said:
    [...]
    Just wondered if anyone had similar and actually fixed it

    I'm sorry, I thought your OS updated from whatever you used before to Windows 10. A misunderstanding.

    Since you work in IT, I don't dare ask further questions. ;) Hope someone can help you. Good luck.

    Nah it updated just to the latest win 10 is all :)

    Yeah seen old posts with similar problem but couldn’t find anyone that fixed it lol

    Thanks for replying though :)

  • Ashantara.8731Ashantara.8731 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited April 30, 2018

    Oops, you were faster than my editing of my post. ;)

    It's a shame how many people are suffering sudden weird bugs with each Win 10 update. One can only wonder if Microsoft's developers will ever get their heads straight (or the CEO who made the decision to change Windows' business model -- computers are still different from smartphones in variety of usage).

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  • Ray Koopa.2354Ray Koopa.2354 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 30, 2018

    Run in windowed or fake fullscreen mode. Fullscreen mode is crappy ever since. I had flickering issues on Windows 10 since RTM.
    You can also try the compatibility flag to use or not use the optimized backbuffer formats, it was added with Fall Creators Update, but it's not really helpful for everyone, like me. Right-click shortcut > Compatibility > Disable fullscreen optimizations

  • Heather.4823Heather.4823 Member ✭✭
    edited April 30, 2018

    Windowed fullscreen I get a lot less FPS though

    Compatiblity mode didn’t work unfortunately. I’ll try disabling full screen optimisations in the morning and update back :)

  • abomally.2694abomally.2694 Member ✭✭

    "I'd disable the automatic update in services..."

    This no longer works in newer versions of Windows 10. If you disable the service, Windows will turn it back on the next time it checks for updates. You MUST disable updates in the registry (or Group services).

    Heather.4823 -

    The desktop flashing issue has been happening for me for a long time. I don't worry about it because the game seems to work properly.

  • Heather.4823Heather.4823 Member ✭✭
    edited May 1, 2018

    @abomally.2694 said:

    The desktop flashing issue has been happening for me for a long time. I don't worry about it because the game seems to work properly.

    Yeah the 3 second flickering only when I click play has happened for like a year but that's no issue to me which I why I didn't mention it as it's not the same issue I am talking about here. That issue is just the screen flickering for about 3 seconds on load of the game only. Nothing to do with this.

    The issue I am talking about here is since the April update that I see the desktop on all loading screens..

  • Heather.4823Heather.4823 Member ✭✭

    @Ray Koopa.2354 said:
    Run in windowed or fake fullscreen mode. Fullscreen mode is crappy ever since. I had flickering issues on Windows 10 since RTM.
    You can also try the compatibility flag to use or not use the optimized backbuffer formats, it was added with Fall Creators Update, but it's not really helpful for everyone, like me. Right-click shortcut > Compatibility > Disable fullscreen optimizations

    @Heather.4823 said:
    Windowed fullscreen I get a lot less FPS though

    Compatiblity mode didn’t work unfortunately. I’ll try disabling full screen optimisations in the morning and update back :)

    Tried disabling the full screen optimisations didn't fix it unfortunately.

  • Aza.2105Aza.2105 Member ✭✭✭

    Having the same problem. What GPU brand are you using? Nvidia or ATI?

    ATI here. I wonder if Nvidia users experience the problem as well? I had the problem with one of the other windows 10 seasonal updates but after awhile it was fixed. No idea what fixed it though.

  • Heather.4823Heather.4823 Member ✭✭

    @Aza.2105 said:
    Having the same problem. What GPU brand are you using? Nvidia or ATI?

    ATI here. I wonder if Nvidia users experience the problem as well? I had the problem with one of the other windows 10 seasonal updates but after awhile it was fixed. No idea what fixed it though.

    Nvidia here

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