cant do much with dagger

in both pvp and pve its rarely usable , in pvp its ok for finishing someone and in pve every time i try to use it i immitietly switch back to short bow because its a lot safer and i get a lot less damage also i think predators cunning is too weak making us unable to facetank anything and warrior in pvp will run on you like a train if you dare use it

@jihm.2315 said:in both pvp and pve its rarely usable ... warrior in pvp will run on you like a train if you dare use it

Yes, you're right. And it does become a question of who you can 1v1 because dagger is not in any way an aoe weapon, and Soulbeast doesnt have half the defensive toolkit of Druid to engage in teamfights, let alone in melee range.

Looking at the wep alone, it looks like it does decent damage with a condi amulet equipped. Problem is you cant just sit on someone with it. You arent a warrior with all their sustain, support, useful offhands. You arent a thief with all their burst, mobility, stealth. You definitely arent a scourge or mirage with their range, burst condi capability coupled, cc.

I think the point is rather that Dagger is less a badly designed weapon, than Soulbeast is a badly designed melee specialisation. It has a few tricks up its sleeve with pet abilities but vs meta specs such as Scourge, Mirage and Shieldbreaker, going into melee range with a dagger is just a death sentence (unless they are a newbie).

@Quintes.6943 said:

@jihm.2315 said:in both pvp and pve its rarely usable ... warrior in pvp will run on you like a train if you dare use it

Soulbeast just needs some polish and dagger is a badly designed weapon, without uttility weapons suck outside of pve (it's actually fine for pve if your dying the it's more your build). The only 2 weapons that can get away with having no utility (PvP) are necro sceptor /,Which is not only is range but synergizes quite well with scourge, and warrior axe becease not only is there the Sheild to make up for it as it had two powerful uttility skills, axe also does an insane amount of burst power dps

@Quintes.6943 said:

@jihm.2315 said:in both pvp and pve its rarely usable ... warrior in pvp will run on you like a train if you dare use it

True. I lost count of how many times I tried killing a Cancermancer with Daggers and failed, you can just never get close to Cancermancer its pretty impossible if you go melee, they won't be taking any damage at all and they can blind. I was only able to kill one with a burst build LB with sic em but thats a gimmick build. Toe to toe nothing is good with condi dagger and specialization that other can't do better. GG Anet. I just don't get why Rangers always get the short end of the stick, and we get the sh.ittty end of the stick. Total bullcrap.

This is from Necro forums

@"Merlin Dyfed Avalon.5046" said:I kinda went around asking necromancers why they play it.A few times I heard the answer, "it's the only class that provided a possibility to survive when spiked with low FPS"Iow. when focused your pc starts grinding and calculating resulting in low reaction speed / activation time when using skills.

Some players, who play since start, told me that gradually it became the only profession they play because of the higher requirements their system needed to continue playing the game.Turning settings to low leaves no effects or animations to react to, hence they went for the oh kitten, lag button that only one profession has.. (had) DS. Necro.

iow spikes on other professions played on low end systems mean insta-death, unplayable gamemodes for them.Necro gave some margin of survivability due to DS.

This could explain the large amount of people playing necro.

@Quintes.6943 said:

@jihm.2315 said:in both pvp and pve its rarely usable ... warrior in pvp will run on you like a train if you dare use it

Part of that issue is that 9 out of every 10 petskills are just shit. Most autoattack chains do more than f123 so you're giving up a pet and barely gain anything relevant.