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  • dodgerrule.8739dodgerrule.8739 Member ✭✭✭

    The real question should be are engineer turret farms ok or not?

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 22, 2019

    @dodgerrule.8739 said:
    The real question should be are engineer turret farms ok or not?

    Well you have to be there and plunk em down every 5 mins right?

  • dodgerrule.8739dodgerrule.8739 Member ✭✭✭

    A few years ago engineers were banned for doing so

  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @dodgerrule.8739 said:
    A few years ago engineers were banned for doing so

    And your sure those engineers dident have a macro running doing it for them?

  • Dami.5046Dami.5046 Member ✭✭✭✭

    we love a good witch hunt in GW land.

  • @dodgerrule.8739 said:
    The real question should be are engineer turret farms ok or not?

    Every farm is allowed, as long as people follow the rules. If you are placing turrets (and not having software/hardware do it for you), then sure, of course it's fine.

    @dodgerrule.8739 said:
    A few years ago engineers were banned for doing so

    As phrased, that's inaccurate.

    Players were suspended (more than a few) for AFK farming. I'm sure many (perhaps even nearly all) were engineers. However, plenty of other engineers were not suspended and plenty of non-engineers got their own time out.
    Again, the only issue is whether the person is playing the game, based on the criteria ANet has laid down. It doesn't matter if it's a bearbow, a turret engie, a minion master, or any other sort of build with a lot of passive abilities. If you are playing (however inattentively), you're okay.

    The vast majority of players do not have to worry about it.

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  • Sinful Mustache.3589Sinful Mustache.3589 Member ✭✭
    edited January 14, 2020

    Sorry for reviving old thread, but i still fail to get the point after reading whole conversation.
    I see those 3 conditions that are required to be met ALL together to get you banned:
    1. Using skill (1 or more) while AFK
    2. AFKing in a place where it is beneficial for your character to be at
    3. Unresponsive to interaction with GMs

    But rangers and necros dont need to press or hold skill 1 or anything at all. They have durable enough builds to kill mobs while totally AFK.
    No macros, no bots, no cheats, no rubbers on keyboard involved. Its just game mechanics allowing them to farm with pet AI.
    But if condition #1 is not the case - than why afk necro farm is called "not ok"?
    The game allows one to gain benefits for an hour and then kicks for being idle. Well, kicking for being away for too long seems legit.
    Still necro can go and press "skill 1" once an hour to not get kicked. Mindblowing contradiction.
    It's a valid game feature, but using it is "not ok". Im not defending afkers or witch hunters, just want to understand.
    If a behavior is considered not legit - than make it not possible in game..
    For example, make AFK kicking timer 10-15 mins in PVE - as it is in WvW.

    Scenario number 2:
    I see a blob of 8 asura chars standing for hours and days and months in certain hot farm area at the very same position.
    All 8 chars enter the game at same moment, leave at same moment. They dont ever move, just refresh crazy amount of turrets and kill tons of mobs.
    I do believe all 8 accounts belong to 1 man. And he makes thousands of gold being afk this way.
    Peeps who think afk farming doesnt make significant profit - you are so wrong.
    It does make profit when you run 8 accounts and it does affect the health of normal trading.
    I dont believe he actively (or even lazy) plays this way on 8 chars at once.
    Seems like goldseller pushes tons of gold to RMT market. Even if its not a goldseller, just imagine making thousands of gold doing nothing

  • @Sinful Mustache.3589 said:
    Sorry for reviving old thread, but i still fail to get the point after reading whole conversation.
    I see those 3 conditions that are required to be met ALL together to get you banned:
    1. Using skill (1 or more) while AFK
    2. AFKing in a place where it is beneficial for your character to be at
    3. Unresponsive to interaction with GMs

    But rangers and necros dont need to press or hold skill 1 or anything at all. They have durable enough builds to kill mobs while totally AFK.
    No macros, no bots, no cheats, no rubbers on keyboard involved. Its just game mechanics allowing them to farm with pet AI.
    But if condition #1 is not the case - than why afk necro farm is called "not ok"?

    Any farm while AFK is «not ok». The key word is «AFK». If you are in front of your screen when you minions or pet kills stuff, you are obviously not AFK. Using minions or pet is most likely considered «using skill».

    Scenario number 2:
    I see a blob of 8 asura chars standing for hours and days and months in certain hot farm area at the very same position.
    All 8 chars enter the game at same moment, leave at same moment. They dont ever move, just refresh crazy amount of turrets and kill tons of mobs.
    I do believe all 8 accounts belong to 1 man. And he makes thousands of gold being afk this way.
    Peeps who think afk farming doesnt make significant profit - you are so wrong.
    It does make profit when you run 8 accounts and it does affect the health of normal trading.
    I dont believe he actively (or even lazy) plays this way on 8 chars at once.
    Seems like goldseller pushes tons of gold to RMT market. Even if its not a goldseller, just imagine making thousands of gold doing nothing

    Report them and go do your stuff, you have no way of verifying if they are the same player, and if he/they is/are AFK or not. The only way to check if someone is AFK is #3 «Unresponsive to interaction with GMs».

  • Hashberry.4510Hashberry.4510 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I miss Ill Conceived Was NA. :'(

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Hashberry.4510 said:
    I miss Ill Conceived Was NA. :'(

    That player is still here. They likely went on to a higher plane.

    Thank You for the {MEME}

  • magnusthorek.8027magnusthorek.8027 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 15, 2020

    The tolerance for the "AFK" term in this game is far too extensive.

    If you have turrets placed and you're not doing anything yourself, even if turrets are considered skills (I don't know, I don't have an Engineer) it IS AFK Farm because ANet can't tell for sure if the player is REALLY "watching the fights" (seriously, that was a ridiculous excuse — probably from an AFK'er him/herself). These "players" could be watching a video on YouTube, could be doing some work, eating or worse! Multiboxing just because they can afford multiple accounts and a PC powerful enough to handle simultaneous instances. Every now and then the cheater — yes that's the word — does some alt-tabbing to see if a GM is interacting with him/her.

    And the same apply to Minions Reapers. I get deeply sad because my main is a Reaper and do my best to do everything, including money.

    I reported some of these "players" during Halloween, Reapers farming while AFK and worse! Macro'ing skills to fire them in predefined intervals. Over the months I reduced drastically the number of reports because, as for an example of Orr's wood cluster, there's a "player" in there that's always in the very same position, I could even say in the very same spot (X/Y/Z coordinates, I mean). I reported him/her several times and once in a while he/she goes away which could indicate ANet is doing something about the case. But then again a few days/weeks later he/she's back doing the same thing over and over again, getting extremely rich without doing nothing.

  • kharmin.7683kharmin.7683 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @magnusthorek.8027 said:
    But then again a few days/weeks later he/she's back doing the same thing over and over again, getting extremely rich without doing nothing.

    And how, exactly, does this affect your ability to play the game? Don't get me wrong -- I don't like it either, and I don't participate in this kind of farming, but there is nothing gained by players who do this that affects others ability to play the game. So they get more gold? Still doesn't affect one's ability to play the game.

    Now, when they camp farmers at heart quests, that affects others ability to play the game (imo), so I would report them and let Anet figure it out.

    I am a very casual player.
    Very.
    Casual.

  • Hashberry.4510Hashberry.4510 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I always wonder what that player at the tree farm is getting out of it. Spirit shards maybe? The mobs don't really drop anything.

  • kratan.4619kratan.4619 Member ✭✭✭

    @magnusthorek.8027 said:
    The tolerance for the "AFK" term in this game is far too extensive.

    If you have turrets placed and you're not doing anything yourself, even if turrets are considered skills (I don't know, I don't have an Engineer) it IS AFK Farm because ANet can't tell for sure if the player is REALLY "watching the fights" (seriously, that was a ridiculous excuse — probably from an AFK'er him/herself). These "players" could be watching a video on YouTube, could be doing some work, eating or worse! Multiboxing just because they can afford multiple accounts and a PC powerful enough to handle simultaneous instances. Every now and then the cheater — yes that's the word — does some alt-tabbing to see if a GM is interacting with him/her.

    And the same apply to Minions Reapers. I get deeply sad because my main is a Reaper and do my best to do everything, including money (despite some allegedly GM's "advice")

    I reported some of these "players" during Halloween, Reapers farming while AFK and worse! Macro'ing skills to fire them in predefined intervals. Over the months I reduced drastically the number of reports because, as for an example of Orr's wood cluster, there's a "player" in there that's always in the very same position, I could even say in the very same spot (X/Y/Z coordinates, I mean). I reported him/her several times and once in a while he/she goes away which could indicate ANet is doing something about the case. But then again a few days/weeks later he/she's back doing the same thing over and over again, getting extremely rich without doing nothing.

    I do most of this, short of using any macros, and it is not cheating per Anet. I park my necro somewhere where there is something I want to farm and occasionally click on a well to place at my feet while I watch something on my other monitor. Could be I am getting low on butter, so go camp a low level bandit camp for a couple of hours.

  • Blanche Neige.7241Blanche Neige.7241 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 15, 2020

    @magnusthorek.8027 said:
    as for an example of Orr's wood cluster<>
    But then again a few days/weeks later he/she's back doing the same thing over and over again, getting extremely rich without doing nothing.

    I fail to see how he can become «extremely rich», by killing a couple of earth elementals every minute.

  • magnusthorek.8027magnusthorek.8027 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 15, 2020

    @kharmin.7683 said:
    And how, exactly, does this affect your ability to play the game? Don't get me wrong -- I don't like it either, and I don't participate in this kind of farming, but there is nothing gained by players who do this that affects others ability to play the game. So they get more gold? Still doesn't affect one's ability to play the game.

    Now, when they camp farmers at heart quests, that affects others ability to play the game (imo), so I would report them and let Anet figure it out.

    This one "player' in particular only makes me angry because cheating is wrong and those who cheat, no matter how, should be warned, suspended and if doing again banned forever. Period. But there was once when I needed some Luminous Dust and, as usual from an occasional farmer, I searched about places where it was easier to farm. Found a wall with incoming Ascalon Ghosts and an engineer was sitting there doing nothing, farming with his turrets. He was online and I'm sure of this, but it's still wrong.

    @Blanche Neige.7241 said:

    I fail to see how he can become «extremely rich», by killing a couple of earth elementals every minute.

    One stack of elder wood Log costs roughly 3.5 G. If someone (like me) decides he/she wants to make the Legendary Longbow Pharus, he/she will need 33 thousand logs. Now do the math for someone with that much wood that, possibly, is also using the not-so-secret TP bots and see the advantage they have over honest players.

  • Hope.6582Hope.6582 Member ✭✭
    edited January 15, 2020

    How do you know the person is gone and not logged in at a different time of day? Are you checking there 24/7? When I log in to get the elder wood logs I go to the same spot and log out and log in and do the same routine every time. That does not mean I am a bot or use macro. It’s just how I do stuff. How do you know that person does not do the same?

    Ppl need to stop making assumptions cause there is no way to know. Anet has their rules and if the players play by their rules, there’s nothing you can do about it. AFK is not ok. Inattentive play is. You can watch a movie or read a book or do whatever and play your engineer and manually put down turrets. You just have to pay attention to the game. If you have suspicions do report them and move on. Let it go

  • Dante.1763Dante.1763 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Wow...this thread is 2 years old and it just keeps getting brought back. Lets celebrate its age!!!!

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  • Burnfall.9573Burnfall.9573 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 16, 2020

    -Exploiters/ -Hackers/ -Trollers/ -Botters/ -Farmers/ -Afjs + -Toxicity

    =

    Finally, is the AFK farm ok or not ?

    Two, Three, Four, Five, Six, Seven -Negatives= Yes!!

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  • kharmin.7683kharmin.7683 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @magnusthorek.8027 said:

    @kharmin.7683 said:
    And how, exactly, does this affect your ability to play the game? Don't get me wrong -- I don't like it either, and I don't participate in this kind of farming, but there is nothing gained by players who do this that affects others ability to play the game. So they get more gold? Still doesn't affect one's ability to play the game.

    Now, when they camp farmers at heart quests, that affects others ability to play the game (imo), so I would report them and let Anet figure it out.

    This one "player' in particular only makes me angry because cheating is wrong and those who cheat, no matter how, should be warned, suspended and if doing again banned forever. Period. But there was once when I needed some Luminous Dust and, as usual from an occasional farmer, I searched about places where it was easier to farm. Found a wall with incoming Ascalon Ghosts and an engineer was sitting there doing nothing, farming with his turrets. He was online and I'm sure of this, but it's still wrong.

    @Blanche Neige.7241 said:

    I fail to see how he can become «extremely rich», by killing a couple of earth elementals every minute.

    One stack of elder wood Log costs roughly 3.5 G. If someone (like me) decides he/she wants to make the Legendary Longbow Pharus, he/she will need 33 thousand logs. Now do the math for someone with that much wood that, possibly, is also using the not-so-secret TP bots and see the advantage they have over honest players.

    How can it be considered cheating? How do these players "win" GW2? What advantage is gained? Again, understand that I am NOT advocating farming, but I just can't stand the argument that somehow these players are at some advantage or that they somehow are cheating.

    Now, if they are truly AFK, then that is against the game's rules and would be considered cheating. When reported, if they don't respond to a GM then they are punished accordingly.

    I am a very casual player.
    Very.
    Casual.

  • Hashberry.4510Hashberry.4510 Member ✭✭✭✭

    This is simple. A game that can't be bothered to police afk farmers is one that is likely to have other sloppy practices. Its a bad look.

  • Hope.6582Hope.6582 Member ✭✭

    @Hashberry.4510 said:
    This is simple. A game that can't be bothered to police afk farmers is one that is likely to have other sloppy practices. Its a bad look.

    They are checked regularly though. They get whispered and teleported and if they do not respond accordingly, action will get made.

  • Henry.5713Henry.5713 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 16, 2020

    You need to look at the bigger picture with these kinda issues. A few hundred people AFK farming won't change anything major. They might slightly influence material prices but that is about it. No need to panic, let those poor people farm...
    However, leaving them entirely unchecked might cause something far worse. There are games (such as Silkroad Online which I am quoting from here) where the majority of players ends up botting multiple characters or heavily buying from the RMT sites as they are pretty much "forced" to do so by ridiculously inflated prices. Any item that keeps you even remotely competitive would take a very long time to acquire by anyone who legitimately plays the game. Who and how this issue started or grew doesn't matter in the end. Everyone simply find themselves in this kitten spot where they are a part of the issue but can't stop unless they wish to sacrafice their own enjoyment.
    There were other systems in play such as a very P2W cash shop and having their version of legendary items (only) drop from world mobs at a very low rare. You would run your bot(s) 24/7 for a year without getting more than a drop or two or more often none. None of the items were accountbound on acquire or even use. Making the game a haven for the cash shop / RMT whales.

    I am mentioning all of this because it puts things into perspective. Guild Wars 2 is a light year away from being that bad and all but it also shows where things could ago in the end if these issues are ignored as they are deemed to not affect the playerbase at large. Thus we need to talk about the bigger picture and why this needs to be considered or at least talked about.

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  • kharmin.7683kharmin.7683 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Henry.5713 said:
    . Any item that keeps you even remotely competitive would take a very long time to acquire by anyone who legitimately plays the game.

    This is my argument. Again, I don't condone this practice, but what competitive advantage is gained in GW2 by farming?

    I am a very casual player.
    Very.
    Casual.

  • People don't see the bigger picture or refuse to so they can justify the practice (perhaps because they're one of those doing). So, I'm out before I screw myself by saying anything I shouldn't and get flagged by someone more "sensitive"

  • Henry.5713Henry.5713 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @kharmin.7683 said:

    @Henry.5713 said:
    . Any item that keeps you even remotely competitive would take a very long time to acquire by anyone who legitimately plays the game.

    This is my argument. Again, I don't condone this practice, but what competitive advantage is gained in GW2 by farming?

    Did I make an argument about this possibly happening in Guild Wars 2? I talked about another game and how sad things became there because their devs certainly missed the bigger picture I was talking about. I never said the competitive part of the statement specifically applied to Guild Wars 2 and I clearly stated nothing even remotely that bad happens here. Which is a good thing.
    However, if you want to go there and talk about something that would happen in Guild Wars 2... Let's talk infusions and legendaries (and some of the expensive skins) as "Fashion Wars" is considered the true endgame by many. Those items could easily go to 5-10x their current price if botting was allowed to go that rampant. Any item considered rare would require you to outspend the TP limit of 10k gold multiple times. That's another thing I have seen. With people getting "scammed" all over the place as they would have to pay before receiving an item. Not to mention the fact that there are many who already struggle to ever acquire any of these items at their current price, let alone would never be able to afford something like a Chak Egg Sac at multiple times it's current price.

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  • Lambent.6375Lambent.6375 Member ✭✭✭

    @magnusthorek.8027 said:

    @kharmin.7683 said:
    And how, exactly, does this affect your ability to play the game? Don't get me wrong -- I don't like it either, and I don't participate in this kind of farming, but there is nothing gained by players who do this that affects others ability to play the game. So they get more gold? Still doesn't affect one's ability to play the game.

    Now, when they camp farmers at heart quests, that affects others ability to play the game (imo), so I would report them and let Anet figure it out.

    This one "player' in particular only makes me angry because cheating is wrong and those who cheat, no matter how, should be warned, suspended and if doing again banned forever. Period. But there was once when I needed some Luminous Dust and, as usual from an occasional farmer, I searched about places where it was easier to farm. Found a wall with incoming Ascalon Ghosts and an engineer was sitting there doing nothing, farming with his turrets. He was online and I'm sure of this, but it's still wrong.

    @Blanche Neige.7241 said:

    I fail to see how he can become «extremely rich», by killing a couple of earth elementals every minute.

    One stack of elder wood Log costs roughly 3.5 G. If someone (like me) decides he/she wants to make the Legendary Longbow Pharus, he/she will need 33 thousand logs. Now do the math for someone with that much wood that, possibly, is also using the not-so-secret TP bots and see the advantage they have over honest players.

    What does elder wood logs have to do with earth elementals?

    @FOX.3582 said:
    A freaking chair. Woah. I personally can't wait to buy a gem store CHAIR, so all my characters can SIT around in Tyria while other players see me, SITTING there, looking like a [email protected] ...

  • Vinceman.4572Vinceman.4572 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Lambent.6375 said:

    @magnusthorek.8027 said:

    @kharmin.7683 said:
    And how, exactly, does this affect your ability to play the game? Don't get me wrong -- I don't like it either, and I don't participate in this kind of farming, but there is nothing gained by players who do this that affects others ability to play the game. So they get more gold? Still doesn't affect one's ability to play the game.

    Now, when they camp farmers at heart quests, that affects others ability to play the game (imo), so I would report them and let Anet figure it out.

    This one "player' in particular only makes me angry because cheating is wrong and those who cheat, no matter how, should be warned, suspended and if doing again banned forever. Period. But there was once when I needed some Luminous Dust and, as usual from an occasional farmer, I searched about places where it was easier to farm. Found a wall with incoming Ascalon Ghosts and an engineer was sitting there doing nothing, farming with his turrets. He was online and I'm sure of this, but it's still wrong.

    @Blanche Neige.7241 said:

    I fail to see how he can become «extremely rich», by killing a couple of earth elementals every minute.

    One stack of elder wood Log costs roughly 3.5 G. If someone (like me) decides he/she wants to make the Legendary Longbow Pharus, he/she will need 33 thousand logs. Now do the math for someone with that much wood that, possibly, is also using the not-so-secret TP bots and see the advantage they have over honest players.

    What does elder wood logs have to do with earth elementals?

    If he's doing nothing then he isn't chopping woods at least. So, he is most likely afk killing earth elementals as they spawn from time to time to annoy the wood farmers.

    @magnusthorek.8027 said:
    People don't see the bigger picture or refuse to so they can justify the practice (perhaps because they're one of those doing). So, I'm out before I screw myself by saying anything I shouldn't and get flagged by someone more "sensitive"

    Since there is no "bigger picture" or the only view that wood prices are very stable over a long time now and were going up before you have no point here. That's all to say about it. If there's a problem with GW2 it's definitely not thos log-in-log-out players chopping wood.
    In addition the "sensitive crowd" in this topic are the players that complain and whine about the so-called "bots" or "afks". Maybe you just haven't realized that the more matter-of-fact related people are the ones knowing that those few players make no big impact on anything in this game.

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  • Linken.6345Linken.6345 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Lambent.6375 said:

    @magnusthorek.8027 said:

    @kharmin.7683 said:
    And how, exactly, does this affect your ability to play the game? Don't get me wrong -- I don't like it either, and I don't participate in this kind of farming, but there is nothing gained by players who do this that affects others ability to play the game. So they get more gold? Still doesn't affect one's ability to play the game.

    Now, when they camp farmers at heart quests, that affects others ability to play the game (imo), so I would report them and let Anet figure it out.

    This one "player' in particular only makes me angry because cheating is wrong and those who cheat, no matter how, should be warned, suspended and if doing again banned forever. Period. But there was once when I needed some Luminous Dust and, as usual from an occasional farmer, I searched about places where it was easier to farm. Found a wall with incoming Ascalon Ghosts and an engineer was sitting there doing nothing, farming with his turrets. He was online and I'm sure of this, but it's still wrong.

    @Blanche Neige.7241 said:

    I fail to see how he can become «extremely rich», by killing a couple of earth elementals every minute.

    One stack of elder wood Log costs roughly 3.5 G. If someone (like me) decides he/she wants to make the Legendary Longbow Pharus, he/she will need 33 thousand logs. Now do the math for someone with that much wood that, possibly, is also using the not-so-secret TP bots and see the advantage they have over honest players.

    What does elder wood logs have to do with earth elementals?

    At the bottom of this picture were it says elderwood earth elementals spawn to harass players thats what they got to do with eachother

  • Lambent.6375Lambent.6375 Member ✭✭✭

    @Vinceman.4572 said:

    If he's doing nothing then he isn't chopping woods at least. So, he is most likely afk killing earth elementals as they spawn from time to time to annoy the wood farmers.

    @Linken.6345 said:

    @Lambent.6375 said:

    @magnusthorek.8027 said:

    @kharmin.7683 said:
    And how, exactly, does this affect your ability to play the game? Don't get me wrong -- I don't like it either, and I don't participate in this kind of farming, but there is nothing gained by players who do this that affects others ability to play the game. So they get more gold? Still doesn't affect one's ability to play the game.

    Now, when they camp farmers at heart quests, that affects others ability to play the game (imo), so I would report them and let Anet figure it out.

    This one "player' in particular only makes me angry because cheating is wrong and those who cheat, no matter how, should be warned, suspended and if doing again banned forever. Period. But there was once when I needed some Luminous Dust and, as usual from an occasional farmer, I searched about places where it was easier to farm. Found a wall with incoming Ascalon Ghosts and an engineer was sitting there doing nothing, farming with his turrets. He was online and I'm sure of this, but it's still wrong.

    @Blanche Neige.7241 said:

    I fail to see how he can become «extremely rich», by killing a couple of earth elementals every minute.

    One stack of elder wood Log costs roughly 3.5 G. If someone (like me) decides he/she wants to make the Legendary Longbow Pharus, he/she will need 33 thousand logs. Now do the math for someone with that much wood that, possibly, is also using the not-so-secret TP bots and see the advantage they have over honest players.

    What does elder wood logs have to do with earth elementals?

    At the bottom of this picture were it says elderwood earth elementals spawn to harass players thats what they got to do with eachother

    Really, that's what this was about? I don't see how that has anything to do with Elder wood prices. If someone is actually sitting there to afk kill Earth elemental, I don't think it has anything to do with keeping it clear for people gathering elder wood. I always end up killing them myself along with others when I gather Elder Wood, if we actually sat there waiting for some afk person to kill them we would be wasting time.

    @FOX.3582 said:
    A freaking chair. Woah. I personally can't wait to buy a gem store CHAIR, so all my characters can SIT around in Tyria while other players see me, SITTING there, looking like a [email protected] ...

  • ROMANG.1903ROMANG.1903 Member ✭✭✭

    If I was a game devlopper and didn't want people to afk farm with their pet, I'd make it a requirement that the player must hit the mobs in order to get the loot. I assume since this isn't the case, afk farming is okay so long as you're not using any 3rd party program.

  • Vinceman.4572Vinceman.4572 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Lambent.6375 said:
    Really, that's what this was about? I don't see how that has anything to do with Elder wood prices. If someone is actually sitting there to afk kill Earth elemental, I don't think it has anything to do with keeping it clear for people gathering elder wood. I always end up killing them myself along with others when I gather Elder Wood, if we actually sat there waiting for some afk person to kill them we would be wasting time.

    People do more harmful things in real life due to stupid reasons than such things in a video game.
    One of the most time consuming things btw. is complaining in forums (or in general) instead of being pro-active.

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  • Theros.1390Theros.1390 Member ✭✭✭

    Thanks for all the answers :) pretty clear for me now.