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  • Valelutra.9128Valelutra.9128 Member ✭✭✭

    Is this still on the table or has it been knocked off?

  • Calisanna.8732Calisanna.8732 Member ✭✭✭

    Didn’t watch the WvW stream this week. Did people ask the devs again “alliances when?” Hehe

  • vier.1327vier.1327 Member ✭✭✭

    Happy page number 54

  • Diku.2546Diku.2546 Member ✭✭✭
    edited October 2, 2020

    @kamikharzeeh.8016 said:
    i think diku means that NA has lost far more active servers. bunch of the people fill EU spots by now even i think, would be odd to explain where the night blobs of more than a full map size come from otherwise.

    Correct...Team Creation Solutions...like Server & Language Linking...has negatively impacted the Long-Term Population of this WvW game mode...imho

    Alliance Linking is another Team Creation Solution & I can only see history repeating itself.

    Told you so
    2020.08.15
    https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/comment/1311428/#Comment_1311428


    I'm amazed WvW is still chugging along despite the many bad decisions that have been done to this game mode.

    I'd like to see a better Road Map for WvW from ANet...that can properly explain where Alliance Linking fits within the greater scheme of things.

    "Anything worth doing is worth planning" - A G.I. Joe PSA

    If ANet doesn't have a Road Map...here's an example Road Map:
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  • kamikharzeeh.8016kamikharzeeh.8016 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Valelutra.9128 good question, but the answer is, we still don't know. afaik they initially just said it was "delayed" or sth alike

    @Diku.2546 agreeing with your there

    it's fun that they enabled cross-language links, but gave Baruch Bay the option to stay open to gather spanish players there lol. so they broke their system there, we need a full break of the links however. the population system also needs a look at.

    the really bad thing with links is that they are only temporarily. (in bunch of cases, that may be good as well but yeah)
    so it's like speed dating, just that u don't have the option to keep a match, even if both would be up for it. :dizzy:

  • kamikharzeeh.8016kamikharzeeh.8016 Member ✭✭✭✭

    borderlands
    three colours
    one eternal battleground
    abandoned eotm
    bags

    alliances when

    link system removed when

  • or think every charakter needs to have access to every skill and utility option etc :dizzy: > about gw1, i never played it, so cannot say much. might check the vid later
    GW! Every character had a primary and secondary profession , you could change your secondarys whenever you wanted , mix and match trait lines , skills ... the result 100s of different , varied , PLAYER CREATED builds , my thief necro for JQ was designed to make casters lives a misery , as was my ranger, my ele mes was a shrine capping god.

    GW2 took all that way , all that creativity , invention, the trial and error of build creation and dumbed it down to , this is your weapon, this the things you can do with it .

  • Zok.4956Zok.4956 Member ✭✭✭

    @primatos.5413 said:
    Come on guys.. we can make it a thousand pages thread before alliances go live \o/

    Relax, there is no need to rush. We can do it slowly.

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  • vier.1327vier.1327 Member ✭✭✭

    We can not lose this golden video.

  • vier.1327vier.1327 Member ✭✭✭

    Arenanet todavía te queremos y nos encantaría seguir jugando a Guild Wars 2 y a Mundo contra Mundo, amamos el modo de juego y nos encantaría ver el próximo nivel.

    Aunque parezcamos sarcásticos y enfadados en estos foros, aún creemos en la compañía.

    English has failed us, let's try in other languages....

    What if this has been the problem all these years?

  • TheGrimm.5624TheGrimm.5624 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Good morning 10/08/20. Happy Thursday!

    Envy the Madman his musing when Death comes to make fools of us all.
    De Mortuis Nil Nisi Bonum.
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  • Nigredo.2084Nigredo.2084 Member
    edited October 8, 2020

    @vier.1327 said:
    Arenanet todavía te queremos y nos encantaría seguir jugando a Guild Wars 2 y a Mundo contra Mundo, amamos el modo de juego y nos encantaría ver el próximo nivel.

    Aunque parezcamos sarcásticos y enfadados en estos foros, aún creemos en la compañía.

    English has failed us, let's try in other languages....

    What if this has been the problem all these years?

    Dunno, I try.

    Arenanet, qua non si batte chiodo da anni, eppure qualcuno, come me, è tornato perché crede in questo gioco. Ma sta passando troppo, troppo tempo; è arrivata l'ora di rinnovare un po' questa modalità, che vogliamo fare?
    Sperando di non essere delusi ancora una volta,
    saluti dall'Italia.

  • TheGrimm.5624TheGrimm.5624 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Nigredo.2084 said:

    @vier.1327 said:
    Arenanet todavía te queremos y nos encantaría seguir jugando a Guild Wars 2 y a Mundo contra Mundo, amamos el modo de juego y nos encantaría ver el próximo nivel.

    Aunque parezcamos sarcásticos y enfadados en estos foros, aún creemos en la compañía.

    English has failed us, let's try in other languages....

    What if this has been the problem all these years?

    Dunno, I try.

    Arenanet, qua non si batte chiodo da anni, eppure qualcuno, come me, è tornato perché crede in questo gioco. Ma sta passando troppo, troppo tempo; è arrivata l'ora di rinnovare un po' questa modalità, che vogliamo fare?
    Sperando di non essere delusi ancora una volta,
    saluti dall'Italia.

    Ah, Gailia est provinca to you too!

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  • i wonder if we could use the passive-aggresive route and send to the devs some food with "where's the alliance system??" written on it....

  • Kylden Ar.3724Kylden Ar.3724 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Inoki.6048 said:

    @kamikharzeeh.8016 said:
    "ding dang"
    "who there"

    alliances when

    outside of that, i agree that the project sounds not flawless, but keep in mind that the guy on the vid just guessed how it would work or precisely look. i agree that i think they worked in much of the area into other maps

    As long as there are transfers

    Never

    Sadly, this is truth. The Transfers Gem sales is the most money WvW brings in. If we ever get alliances, it will only be because they figured out how to monetize it the way they did build templates.

    How many times we gotta tell you GRIND IS NOT CONTENT there ANet?

    Leader of Tyrian Adventure Corp [TACO], member of [RaW][TACO][Owls][HELL] Alliance, Kaineng.

  • primatos.5413primatos.5413 Member ✭✭✭

    @Kylden Ar.3724 said:

    @Inoki.6048 said:

    @kamikharzeeh.8016 said:
    "ding dang"
    "who there"

    alliances when

    outside of that, i agree that the project sounds not flawless, but keep in mind that the guy on the vid just guessed how it would work or precisely look. i agree that i think they worked in much of the area into other maps

    As long as there are transfers

    Never

    Sadly, this is truth. The Transfers Gem sales is the most money WvW brings in. If we ever get alliances, it will only be because they figured out how to monetize it the way they did build templates.

    This. So much and only this!! ^^

  • Zok.4956Zok.4956 Member ✭✭✭

    I heard that the company has hired three new employees (Vladimir, Estragon and Godot) who will take care of the Alliance system as soon as all three have arrived.

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  • subversiontwo.7501subversiontwo.7501 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 9, 2020

    @Kylden Ar.3724 said:

    @Inoki.6048 said:

    Never

    Sadly, this is truth. The Transfers Gem sales is the most money WvW brings in. If we ever get alliances, it will only be because they figured out how to monetize it the way they did build templates.

    Funny thing, I was always under the impression that getting new players to play your game who are not jaded veterans with fully upgraded accounts and solid gold economies would be more lucrative than trying to milk those jaded veterans and make them quit (taking everyone's content with them).

    I think you are confusing investing in sales with riding the wave out :3

    Imagine investing in a Steam release with full WvW servers and marketing your PvP that you don't really care about there B)

  • kamikharzeeh.8016kamikharzeeh.8016 Member ✭✭✭✭

    who can say when alliances
    where the work into it happens
    only time
    :#

  • Kylden Ar.3724Kylden Ar.3724 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Zok.4956 said:
    I heard that the company has hired three new employees (Vladimir, Estragon and Godot) who will take care of the Alliance system as soon as all three have arrived.

    And now we have a "Waiting for Godot" reference, but still no Alliances.

    How many times we gotta tell you GRIND IS NOT CONTENT there ANet?

    Leader of Tyrian Adventure Corp [TACO], member of [RaW][TACO][Owls][HELL] Alliance, Kaineng.

  • Zok.4956Zok.4956 Member ✭✭✭

    @subversiontwo.7501 said:

    @Kylden Ar.3724 said:

    @Inoki.6048 said:

    Never

    Sadly, this is truth. The Transfers Gem sales is the most money WvW brings in. If we ever get alliances, it will only be because they figured out how to monetize it the way they did build templates.

    Funny thing, I was always under the impression that getting new players to play your game who are not jaded veterans with fully upgraded accounts and solid gold economies would be more lucrative than trying to milk those jaded veterans and make them quit (taking everyone's content with them).

    In sales there is hunting (getting new customers) and also farming (milking existing customers) at the same time.

    In a saturated market farming usually is more cost effective than hunting but a sales department should do both.

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  • Kylden Ar.3724Kylden Ar.3724 Member ✭✭✭✭

    So, ummm....

    Alliances when?

    How many times we gotta tell you GRIND IS NOT CONTENT there ANet?

    Leader of Tyrian Adventure Corp [TACO], member of [RaW][TACO][Owls][HELL] Alliance, Kaineng.

  • kamikharzeeh.8016kamikharzeeh.8016 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 19, 2020

    that's why Primordius grew that big i guess

    also..
    ? When Alliances

  • primatos.5413primatos.5413 Member ✭✭✭

    @kamikharzeeh.8016 said:
    that's why Primordius grew that big i guess

    also..
    ? When Alliances

    A very good question this is. answer they soon will!

  • ollbirtan.2915ollbirtan.2915 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Imagine, still believing in fairytales :o

  • Valelutra.9128Valelutra.9128 Member ✭✭✭

    @Kylden Ar.3724 said:
    So, ummm....

    Alliances when?

    Another three days have been added to the delay before the next announcement

  • Calisanna.8732Calisanna.8732 Member ✭✭✭

    I thought they streamed WvW weekly? When did that change?

  • subversiontwo.7501subversiontwo.7501 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Calisanna.8732 said:
    I thought they streamed WvW weekly? When did that change?

    I don't think they've done any streams for 20 days. All the clips were "last month".

  • primatos.5413primatos.5413 Member ✭✭✭

    Maybe this is just a bad dream.. when we wake up we all be playing gw2 with alliances released like we do since 2 years...

  • vier.1327vier.1327 Member ✭✭✭

    @primatos.5413 said:
    Maybe this is just a bad dream.. when we wake up we all be playing gw2 with alliances released like we do since 2 years...

    With Blackjack and hookers

  • Getting too far down the list on the front page.....so bumping.

  • Valelutra.9128Valelutra.9128 Member ✭✭✭

    Any recent news? /s

  • Kylden Ar.3724Kylden Ar.3724 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Valelutra.9128 said:
    Any recent news? /s

    They still pretend they never started this thread. Is that news?

    How many times we gotta tell you GRIND IS NOT CONTENT there ANet?

    Leader of Tyrian Adventure Corp [TACO], member of [RaW][TACO][Owls][HELL] Alliance, Kaineng.

  • Thornwolf.9721Thornwolf.9721 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Just admit you have no intention on touching WvW or making content for competitive A-net. Let it go.

  • Super Hayes.6890Super Hayes.6890 Member ✭✭✭✭

    This thread deserves to be stickied. We are spending more time bumping it to the top where it belongs than we are playing WvW 😲

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  • Jugglemonkey.8741Jugglemonkey.8741 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I hope they realise that if they don't address this in this game, the "alliances when?" meme is going to follow them through Gw3 and beyond lol

    Critical Kit, Deadeye.
    “If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.” - John Steinbeck

  • TheGrimm.5624TheGrimm.5624 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 3, 2020

    @Baldrick.8967 said:
    I wonder what celebration we can plan for the third anniversary of this thread?

    Depends, do you want it to try and have impact?

    Have all forum goers play on nothing but EoTM for the week and see how many instances we can spawn. Avoid the regular maps. If EoTM is suppose (which it does) to even the fields by starting new instances once one is full for a side it would be a better sampling of if balanced numbers would improve gameplay. Granted EoTM has its own issues for balance and teaming all green together for example but....

    That or everyone floods OS to fight there.

    Edit: Note I still run under the conspiracy the Alliance system was meant to be in an expansion that was cancelled after a MGT change. After that the idea was shelved since the expansion was. After the MGT changed again the idea of Alliances for an expansion was brought back out so it can be a feature for WvW in the new Expansion. So...not expecting it till the expansion lands. If wrong, cool, if not, that's expectation. And I say all this as one from the server pride is better side, but...

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  • vier.1327vier.1327 Member ✭✭✭

    @Baldrick.8967 said:
    I wonder what celebration we can plan for the third anniversary of this thread?

    We can open a post with "Alliances When" as title, one for each of us.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @vier.1327 said:

    @Baldrick.8967 said:
    I wonder what celebration we can plan for the third anniversary of this thread?

    We can open a post with "Alliances When" as title, one for each of us.

    When they merge them all, it’ll tell us they heard...

    to no avail of course

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  • vier.1327vier.1327 Member ✭✭✭

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @vier.1327 said:

    @Baldrick.8967 said:
    I wonder what celebration we can plan for the third anniversary of this thread?

    We can open a post with "Alliances When" as title, one for each of us.

    When they merge them all, it’ll tell us they heard...

    to no avail of course

    Then we will know they have read it.

  • Jugglemonkey.8741Jugglemonkey.8741 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @vier.1327 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:

    @vier.1327 said:

    @Baldrick.8967 said:
    I wonder what celebration we can plan for the third anniversary of this thread?

    We can open a post with "Alliances When" as title, one for each of us.

    When they merge them all, it’ll tell us they heard...

    to no avail of course

    Then we will know they have read it.

    Unfortunately, seen =/= read.

    Critical Kit, Deadeye.
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  • Eddbopkins.2630Eddbopkins.2630 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 5, 2020

    Is this thread relevant in 2020-21? Like? U would think the caretakers of the forums would remove irrelevant info/lies told by the devs like alliances. that was a flat out lie told to us by the devs about its suppose development being developed. I dont think alliances were ever a thing we were just told a lie to shut us up. My god honest opinion.

  • Super Hayes.6890Super Hayes.6890 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Eddbopkins.2630 said:
    Is this thread relevant in 2020-21? Like? U would think the caretakers of the forums would remove irrelevant info/lies told by the devs like alliances. that was a flat out lie told to us by the devs about its suppose development being developed. I dont think alliances were ever a thing we were just told a lie to shut us up. My god honest opinion.

    Can you imagine the uproar if they removed this thread with no explanation or update? I'd buy a ticket to that show!

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  • Jugglemonkey.8741Jugglemonkey.8741 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 5, 2020

    @Super Hayes.6890 said:

    @Eddbopkins.2630 said:
    Is this thread relevant in 2020-21? Like? U would think the caretakers of the forums would remove irrelevant info/lies told by the devs like alliances. that was a flat out lie told to us by the devs about its suppose development being developed. I dont think alliances were ever a thing we were just told a lie to shut us up. My god honest opinion.

    Can you imagine the uproar if they removed this thread with no explanation or update? I'd buy a ticket to that show!

    Well, even that would be a confirmation of sorts, so it would probably please some people.

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  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Jugglemonkey.8741 said:

    @Super Hayes.6890 said:

    @Eddbopkins.2630 said:
    Is this thread relevant in 2020-21? Like? U would think the caretakers of the forums would remove irrelevant info/lies told by the devs like alliances. that was a flat out lie told to us by the devs about its suppose development being developed. I dont think alliances were ever a thing we were just told a lie to shut us up. My god honest opinion.

    Can you imagine the uproar if they removed this thread with no explanation or update? I'd buy a ticket to that show!

    Well, even that would be a confirmation of sorts, so it would probably please some people.

    @Super Hayes.6890 said:

    @Eddbopkins.2630 said:
    Is this thread relevant in 2020-21? Like? U would think the caretakers of the forums would remove irrelevant info/lies told by the devs like alliances. that was a flat out lie told to us by the devs about its suppose development being developed. I dont think alliances were ever a thing we were just told a lie to shut us up. My god honest opinion.

    Can you imagine the uproar if they removed this thread with no explanation or update? I'd buy a ticket to that show!

    It’s called ‘resolution’. Resolve this, one way or another.

    • Say it’s on permanent hold,
    • Say you aren’t doing it,
    • Say the resources were more than you anticipated
    • Say Anything........:

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  • Saga.1839Saga.1839 Member ✭✭

    It has almost been 3 years since this post. I think Arenanet is only game dev company that is literally afraid of their community.