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  • Kylden Ar.3724Kylden Ar.3724 Member ✭✭✭✭

    The child hungers!

    Alliances when!?

    How many times we gotta tell you GRIND IS NOT CONTENT there ANet?

    Leader of Tyrian Adventure Corp [TACO], member of [RaW][TACO][Owls][HELL] Alliance, Kaineng.

  • primatos.5413primatos.5413 Member ✭✭✭

    Happy page 56 \o/

  • Diku.2546Diku.2546 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 8, 2020

    Still waiting for a Complete Road Map for WvW & not just a Chapter 2...

    Which World Restructuring is seeking to accomplish in "Redesigning WvW" through Team Creation mechanics...imho

    Example Road Map:
    https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/89449/wvg-world-vs-globes/p1

    CHAPTER 1 - REBOOT WvW - Remove World Linking & Implement Changes to WvW
    CHAPTER 2 - REDESIGN WvW - Re-Purpose Server Guesting for WvG & encourage Healthy Competition
    CHAPTER 3 - NEW GAME MODE & VISION - Establish a better Road Map & Vision with World vs Globes
    CHAPTER 4 - WvG MATCH-UP - Globe Raiding of Green & Blue - Weekly Picked by Players
    CHAPTER 5 - EOTM LOBBY - Mist Raiding, WvG Recruitment & Craft-Merchant Vendors
    CHAPTER 6 - WvG TOURNAMENTS - Using New Match-Up Mechanics based on a Globe Raiding Model

    The End goal of this Example Road Map is to host an annual eSport SuperBowl event with corporate sponsors that's designed to be an END GAME Content to PvE in CHAPTER 6.

    Credibility requires critical insight & time.

    Yours truly,
    Diku

    Credibility requires critical insight & time.
    https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/89449/wvg-world-vs-globes/p1

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I wonder if we can hit 300k views prior to 100 pages.

    If I didn’t expect it to be removed, I would start a poll as to which would happen first: 100 pages, 300k views or alliances....

    Thank You for the {MEME}

  • vier.1327vier.1327 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 9, 2020

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:
    I wonder if we can hit 300k views prior to 100 pages.

    If I didn’t expect it to be removed, I would start a poll as to which would happen first: 100 pages, 300k views or alliances....

    Rise the bet

    What is going to be first; end on Covid-19 pandemic or WvW Alliances?

  • kamikharzeeh.8016kamikharzeeh.8016 Member ✭✭✭✭

    yeah lol. no pandemy can last that long. EoD is announced for like summer 2021 or so? in the meantime we will have most of the covid risk group people yet getting their medication. :9

    in the waiting time however, we may still ask
    alliances when?

  • Kylden Ar.3724Kylden Ar.3724 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @kamikharzeeh.8016 said:
    yeah lol. no pandemy can last that long. EoD is announced for like summer 2021 or so? in the meantime we will have most of the covid risk group people yet getting their medication. :9

    in the waiting time however, we may still ask
    alliances when?

    You mean

    ALLIANCES WHEN!?

    How many times we gotta tell you GRIND IS NOT CONTENT there ANet?

    Leader of Tyrian Adventure Corp [TACO], member of [RaW][TACO][Owls][HELL] Alliance, Kaineng.

  • kamikharzeeh.8016kamikharzeeh.8016 Member ✭✭✭✭

    yes, alliances when

  • vier.1327vier.1327 Member ✭✭✭

    When Alliances, Alliances When.

  • Baldrick.8967Baldrick.8967 Member ✭✭✭

    the obvious answer is 'soon'.....

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 14, 2020

    why we some post whit Alliance?
    can we ask some public investigate the ip's that messages come? For me it looks suspicion. Is some side haters spam it? Or some another mmo game?
    As wvw player I am absolutistly not interested in Alliance, opposite, I not like that.

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 14, 2020

    @subversiontwo.7501 said:
    you will find that the people who update this thread with somewhat effortless posts are the same people who regularily post with far more effort on this forum as a whole.

    So if it trou we need more and mroe detail look on other there post ot inspect some suspicion trends

    You'll also find that most people who actually create content on their servers want Alliances whereas those who ride the coattails may not.

    "actually create content on their servers " ?? Or they think that they "actually create content on their servers "?? This is 2 big differences. I am sure that probably this is 2th.

    A perhaps more accurate description would be to say that those who have been in guilds for most of their time in this game tend to want it and those who do no interact in/with guilds may not.

    if they want interact- thay can choose lowp puliation server and migrate. We already have this functionality.

  • @lare.5129 said:

    @subversiontwo.7501 said:
    You'll also find that most people who actually create content on their servers want Alliances whereas those who ride the coattails may not.

    "actually create content on their servers " ?? Or they think that they "actually create content on their servers "?? This is 2 big differences. I am sure that probably this is 2th.

    I am referring to the primary pickup commanders on those servers and the closed groups capable of creating-, taking on- and/or dominating matchups (eg., controlling a map). None of those think that they do, they do.

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @subversiontwo.7501 said:
    I am referring to the primary pickup commanders on those servers and the closed groups capable of creating-, taking on- and/or dominating matchups (eg., controlling a map).

    ??
    who care that commanders and they mutchup per perime time 2 evenings per week?
    for many wvw players they a like npc, no more. And no absolutely care that they think. I mean they opinion is same as other ANY participation member in wvw. So 2 roamers who take same camp have 2x bigger value that extra-super comm.

  • @lare.5129 said:

    @subversiontwo.7501 said:
    I am referring to the primary pickup commanders on those servers and the closed groups capable of creating-, taking on- and/or dominating matchups (eg., controlling a map).

    ??
    who care that commanders and they mutchup per perime time 2 evenings per week?
    for many wvw players they a like npc, no more. And no absolutely care that they think. I mean they opinion is same as other ANY participation member in wvw. So 2 roamers who take same camp have 2x bigger value that extra-super comm.

    Then you are making my case. You seem very happy with a situation where there are no guilds, commanders or any level of content that promotes building community. If you fall down to EU T5 that may be a reality in certain matchups already today. When WSR had its shed-transfer and was emptied out there were even times when the other servers had problems letting their players keep their pips up because WSR was so empty that it didn't even flip back camps.

    You may be happy with that while the players who want Alliances will consider that "dead".

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @subversiontwo.7501 said:
    You seem very happy with a situation where there are no guilds, commanders or any level of content that promotes building community.

    I am don't worry about that because I know what if I want find comm, I will find it, and I already done that. I already know what I can also up tag and run.
    I don't see any tie between com and guild. Like comm ? change server. Solved. Wvw guild already have placed on same server and any want who want can join. Of sometime not per one day, but who say that mmo game shoudld be fast?

    If you fall down to EU T5 that may be a reality in certain matchups already today.

    t5? I am on T9, if look info from https://leaderboards.guildwars2.com/en/eu/wvw
    feel good.

    When WSR had its shed-transfer and was emptied out there were even times when the other servers had problems letting their players keep their pips up because WSR was so empty that it didn't even flip back camps.

    so why I am on T9 don't feel that "big trouble" ??

    You may be happy with that while the players who want Alliances will consider that "dead".

    don't try mix players who will consider and real situation.

  • subversiontwo.7501subversiontwo.7501 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 14, 2020

    @lare.5129 said:

    If you fall down to EU T5 that may be a reality in certain matchups already today.

    t5? I am on T9, if look info from https://leaderboards.guildwars2.com/en/eu/wvw
    feel good.

    When WSR had its shed-transfer and was emptied out there were even times when the other servers had problems letting their players keep their pips up because WSR was so empty that it didn't even flip back camps.

    so why I am on T9 don't feel that "big trouble" ??

    You may be happy with that while the players who want Alliances will consider that "dead".

    don't try mix players who will consider and real situation.

    Gunnar's Hold? It is currently in T1, you are listing an old leaderboard that has no links listed.

    Here's the reference point: http://gw2stats.com/matchups / https://wvwstats.com/eu

    The leaderboard same as the rank listings are just some score-evolution that means little since they hop all over the place with the linkings that have been around since 2016. The tiers are the actual matchups themselves (1-5 in EU and 1-4 in NA). I understand that it can be confusing.

    A better ruler for size and activity is just looking at the kill and death totals. A small server like WSR has about 3k each of kills and deaths. Gunnars Hold by comparison has 17k kills and 22k deaths. The K/D ratio is unimportant here since it only suggests how a matchup is going. However, the total numbers suggests that Gunnars is somewhere around 7x the general content production of WSR this week.

    Sadly, the system (or neither system) does not track the flip of objectives, only the points from holding them so it says very little about PPT activity (only success and relative point-distribution from it).

    Overall, Gunnar's has been a rather stable server throughout 2019-2020 as far as I can remember (though if I'm not mistaken, several of the guilds now on RoS used to be on GH). It can very well be a server where there still is an organisation of guilds that produces and shares content, leaving those not involved with that completely blind to both the effort of maintaining that and the plights of other servers.

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @subversiontwo.7501 said:
    Gunnar's Hold? It is currently in T1, you are listing an old leaderboard that has no links listed.
    Here's the reference point: http://gw2stats.com/matchups / https://wvwstats.com/eu

    blacktide. nice and fun server. Adn I don't see any tie to wvw content and place .We have wvw mmr system, so it ok always.

    completely blind to both the effort of maintaining that and the plights of other servers.

    "maintaining that and the plights of other servers" ?? we talk in English ?

  • @lare.5129 said:

    @subversiontwo.7501 said:
    Gunnar's Hold? It is currently in T1, you are listing an old leaderboard that has no links listed.
    Here's the reference point: http://gw2stats.com/matchups / https://wvwstats.com/eu

    blacktide. nice and fun server. Adn I don't see any tie to wvw content and place .We have wvw mmr system, so it ok always.

    completely blind to both the effort of maintaining that and the plights of other servers.

    "maintaining that and the plights of other servers" ?? we talk in English ?

    Oh, Blacktide? It has been linked to different main servers for over a year. It is more or less a dead server on its own. In late 2019 it was linked to Deso, in 2020 it has been linked every relink (to Piken, JS, Dzago, Piken again, Gandara, Piken a third time and now to SFR). Prior to that it was host to the Vabbi nomad community and prior to that it was either dead or a link to someone else.

    If Blacktide was to lose its link you would get to experience the wonders of T5 death :).

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @subversiontwo.7501 said:
    Oh, Blacktide? It has been linked to different main servers for over a year. It is more or less a dead server on its own

    it very nice and good server

    If Blacktide was to lose its link you would get to experience the wonders of T5 death :).

    and agin, now link is works is not have any tie whit alianses.

  • I don’t personally care about alliances anymore as they’ve stated it wouldn’t even address the population imbalance. I just want them to own up to their decisions and communicate with us.

    I do however know that we need updates.
    I’m not happy with the current state of WvW.
    I continue to play because I love the mode. When new people join in our mode I always take time to explain things vs yelling “don’t touch the tact’s” or “stay on tag” “dont repair the wall” “why you do that you noob” because treating newcomers like this will only help bring on the death of this game mode. Less people =less friendlies to play with no matter if you prefer roaming, small scale, ppt, ppk, and less enemies to fight. Do you really wanna fight gates all day??

    I’m not sure what anet could do to help our mode out. I do know we need more attention that what we’ve been given. Some of the ideas I’ve read in the past seem good.

    Although it’s a gimmick and vets might hate it- theme weeks, dbl xp weeks, new armor/weapon skins. These all bring in/or back players. Even if they’re pve ppl, they might like WvW! We were all pve ppl in the beginning. If anet focused on something special for us once every 2 months I’d be happy. Even if it was simple as gimmick weeks (core skills, dbl XD and whatever else they’ve done in the past).

    I’m truly saddened by the communication as this is a really great game mode.

  • vier.1327vier.1327 Member ✭✭✭

    @lare.5129 said:
    why we some post whit Alliance?
    can we ask some public investigate the ip's that messages come? For me it looks suspicion. Is some side haters spam it? Or some another mmo game?
    As wvw player I am absolutistly not interested in Alliance, opposite, I not like that.

    We are the ones that work in the shadows... Our hand is behind every mayor Arenanet decision... No one is safe from us, we are everywhere, next to queen Jennah and inside the darkest sewer of Lion's Arch.. but you should not fear us... we fight for what is right, for the truth, for keeping alive The Mist.

    Now that you know who we are, join us, join the WvW Alliances Resistance.

    For The Mist, for Tyria, for the WvW Alliances.

  • vier.1327vier.1327 Member ✭✭✭

    After seen 13 new post, for a brief moment, I thought that Alliances were a reality... So sad...

    Subversiontwo.7501 congratulations, amazing arguments. Very clear and without sarcastic ways to say how the linking server system has killed the WvW communities.

    Maybe that is what we part of us want, the return of the server pride gone by this system. And WvW Alliances could have been a solution, now I think it is too late for it.

    Fortunately, Baruch Bay was saved from the server linking system.

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Calisanna.8732 said:
    I do however know that we need updates.

    may be you need switct to oterh game mode? make break.

    I’m not happy with the current state of WvW.

    ofc not all should be happy. And this is ok. Some just want replay content from other game, some only do dayli, someone only roam

    I’m not sure what anet could do to help our mode out.

    yes, may be, and more not sure that alianses can change something

    Although it’s a gimmick and vets might hate it- theme weeks, dbl xp weeks, new armor/weapon skins.

    dlb xp event ofc fine.

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @vier.1327 said:
    Very clear and without sarcastic ways to say how the linking server system has killed the WvW communities.

    it is very unvisible. I don't see that it was sayed. Also for me link system one of greatest fun and way to see what and where, get fun, and alwasy get us new content.
    Yes, link is part of new content. New(another) people = new content

  • @lare.5129 said:

    @Calisanna.8732 said:
    I do however know that we need updates.

    may be you need switct to oterh game mode? make break.

    I’m not happy with the current state of WvW.

    ofc not all should be happy. And this is ok. Some just want replay content from other game, some only do dayli, someone only roam

    I’m not sure what anet could do to help our mode out.

    yes, may be, and more not sure that alianses can change something

    Although it’s a gimmick and vets might hate it- theme weeks, dbl xp weeks, new armor/weapon skins.

    dlb xp event ofc fine.

    I highly dislike when people tell/suggest others to stop playing or take a break. In this case switch game modes. The answer is a HARD NO.
    I really only WvW and have 9 accounts for the WvW with friends/guilds reasons I don’t need a break. Anet should be giving each game mode some attention, not just pve.

  • kamikharzeeh.8016kamikharzeeh.8016 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 15, 2020

    @lare.5129 you're too new to all this to understand. we had blacktide for some time as our link, you're a rather small server with some few guilds that do things, which is mainly ppt. not unfriendly, but... you just used sofar content that was brought directly to you. t1 has simply the most easy matchups normally. that is why most servers even avoid it, since it gets stale and boring after some time.

    seek yourself a Wvw guild and learn a metaclass in a guild-group environment, then tell us again what u think of the format. i started when desolation was nearly years-long t1.... so i know what u think of. just that is only the spectator mode really. surely, every server wants some ppt providers, but there's more. even far more to be found within the format of Wvw medium and largescale.

    by the way, u do realize our accountnames here are our ingame tags as well, yes? u find a lot of people posting in the Wvw forums, and most serious players are disliking the link-system. it's pretty bold to just say "you're not sharing my opinion, therefore you're bots/spam accounts"

    if u don't know the reason of these reminder posts, we do remind Anet to give us at least information of an update they promised us years ago.

  • Kylden Ar.3724Kylden Ar.3724 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @kamikharzeeh.8016 said:

    if u don't know the reason of these reminder posts, we do remind Anet to give us at least information of an update they promised us years ago.

    2 years ago now. No communication, no updates, no hope, ONLY LIES!

    All is vain!

    ALLIANCES WHEN!?

    How many times we gotta tell you GRIND IS NOT CONTENT there ANet?

    Leader of Tyrian Adventure Corp [TACO], member of [RaW][TACO][Owls][HELL] Alliance, Kaineng.

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 16, 2020

    @kamikharzeeh.8016 said:
    seek yourself a Wvw guild and learn a metaclass in a guild-group environment, then tell us again what u think of the format.

    I am already in one if best fro me wvw guilds, and already have metaclass. I think current state is great.

    by the way, u do realize our accountnames here are our ingame tags as well, yes?

    ofc

    u find a lot of people posting in the Wvw forums, and most serious players are disliking the link-system.

    how we measure "serious"? If this is not fake account, or not account from cuncurent mmo developers ofc .
    Thelink system don't make domination is const par t of game, and not convert all action to gank. I think it ok. And ofc most skilled player will shoudl say that they don't liek it, becasue thay can't push to corner in non stop mode. And this is very ok that they notlike.

    it's pretty bold to just say "you're not sharing my opinion, therefore you're bots/spam accounts"

    yes, and I am sure that most player who say that they need alianses very very suspicion.

    if u don't know the reason of these reminder posts, we do remind Anet to give us at least information of an update they promised us years ago.

    ofc we can have this update. Soon. But why some someone wait if after week. This is mmo game. Soon can mesn after 5-10 years too. And in most cases "soon" measure in years but not in weeks. So I don't see nothing special if it comes after 5 years. And it is ok. But try do some hype and each week say "where it is" looks as I say - bot mode.

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 16, 2020

    @Kylden Ar.3724 said:
    2 years ago now.

    this is mmo. So it can be soon. After 12 year may be. May be after 5. Soon. Not 100 years. If you play mmo game and think that 2 years is long term and per that term should be some action or respond I can say only "sorry, you don't understand spirit of mmo"

  • vier.1327vier.1327 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 16, 2020

    @lare.5129 said:

    @Kylden Ar.3724 said:
    2 years ago now.

    this is mmo. So it can be soon. After 12 year may be. May be after 5. Soon. Not 100 years. If you play mmo game and think that 2 years is long term and per that term should be some action or respond I can say only "sorry, you don't understand spirit of mmo"

    Answer me, you can trust me, are you The WwW Developer alt account?

    "Soon" is just a meme for Arenanet timing in content development.

    We would like to know what happened with the project, or if it is already cancelled. Actually, part of us is more interested in the communication than the Alliances project.

    We are asking the same as pve players; communication.

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 16, 2020

    @vier.1327 said:
    Answer me, you can trust me, are you The WwW Developer alt account?

    no, I am developer another project

    "Soon" is just a meme for Arenanet timing in content development.

    "soon" is not 2 years. Soon it is fast as possible. But not 2 years.

    We would like to know what happened with the project, or if it is already cancelled.

    why you think that something should happen? per 2 years??? ok, people see ticket, make investigation, set priorities, make plan, it will be done soon. Thats already can be comeleted per 2-5 years .. Before start. If you think that all thing do per one week or year - this is wrong vision person who not from project management world.

    We are asking the same as pve players; communication.

    I see communication. But if you think that it should be triggered each year, and each 2 years - this is wrong vision I am sure.
    Will see how it be after 5 or 10 years. May be 12 years .. But trigger each year abd say "how it is" the wrong vision of project management.
    don't try it compare time period whit Harry Poter magic brush movement and real work.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Agreed. Just drop us a note, maybe a little nod to yay or nay... until then, we will continue to enjoy discussing this topic on this discussion forum!

    @vier.1327

    There are posters on this forum that consistently try to troll, and perform this function poorly. Don’t get pulled in.....

    Thank You for the {MEME}

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 16, 2020

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:
    Agreed. Just drop us a note, maybe a little nod to yay or nay...

    we already get that the 2 years ago. I am sure it is ok. Or what, next stem ask current state each day by mail ???

  • vier.1327vier.1327 Member ✭✭✭

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:
    Agreed. Just drop us a note, maybe a little nod to yay or nay... until then, we will continue to enjoy discussing this topic on this discussion forum!

    @vier.1327

    There are posters on this forum that consistently try to troll, and perform this function poorly. Don’t get pulled in.....

    Wise words

  • Kylden Ar.3724Kylden Ar.3724 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @lare.5129 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:
    Agreed. Just drop us a note, maybe a little nod to yay or nay...

    we already get that the 2 years ago. I am sure it is ok. Or what, next stem ask current state each day by mail ???

    If I ignored my stakeholders on a project for 2 years, I'd get fired.

    So again, I ask,

    Alliances WHEN!?

    How many times we gotta tell you GRIND IS NOT CONTENT there ANet?

    Leader of Tyrian Adventure Corp [TACO], member of [RaW][TACO][Owls][HELL] Alliance, Kaineng.

  • subversiontwo.7501subversiontwo.7501 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 16, 2020

    @vier.1327 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:
    Agreed. Just drop us a note, maybe a little nod to yay or nay... until then, we will continue to enjoy discussing this topic on this discussion forum!

    @vier.1327

    There are posters on this forum that consistently try to troll, and perform this function poorly. Don’t get pulled in.....

    Wise words

    Well, yeah, the way stuff is managed it just invites and feeds feigned ignorance, hyperbole and general trolling. Trolls thrive when only flames get smacked.

    At the same time it doesn't really matter, it's a discussion forum and when we post we do it for the benefit of anyone who cares to read, not just whoever we choose to respond to.

    At one point there was a guy in one of my own guilds trolling around here who then went "is that you?" "lulul, made you post" and I just shrugged it off as it wasn't like I wouldn't be posting anyway, right. It's a discussion forum, it's made to post on. I take these forums for what they are and sometimes you may feel like its a waste of time but most of the time you know full well it is falling on deaf ears, above people's heads or gets lost in bleet and noise - but this still is the only official communication with some permanence so your posts will always sit around here for someone to read and occassionally what you say may help someone get some information or learn a thing or two. That's really the only reason I spend time here now and then, pretending so be some sort of voice of reason or representative for playergroups who have generally never used this place much or who are becomming exceedingly rare overall. It can be a healthy perspective to dab into every once in a while.

  • vier.1327vier.1327 Member ✭✭✭

    @kamikharzeeh.8016 said:
    @lare.5129
    u see communication? where?

    yet in the november 2018 update all they said "update? here it is! we update u that we have no further info about when alliances launch but it is on a good way".
    in the meantime probably they fired the whole team that worked on Wvw and maybe even dropped the plan. irl the year-long state is "no communication" bc says things like "soon" means just nothing, if it takes over half a year.

    meanwhile pvE people cry about having to wait like 1 month if even for the next part of the living world episode.

    modern games generate enough money to require updates at least every six months. even if u say Wvw is not big enough to get that much updates, okay, but at least each year an update would be a thing. instead the introduced a pretty bad mount that nobody wanted in Wvw.

    back then the "linked server system" was introduced as temporary solution. the idea of Alliances came up due to the massing complaints against the "links". this year they still talk about "soon". many of the Wvw players either feel pranked or lost faith. we don't talk about months, how can u compare years, by now over 1000 days to "daily updates"?


    so long talk, short conclusion

    i have birthday today, and i'd really appreciate more info about "Alliances when" as present. :P

    Happy birthday 🎈🎉

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Kylden Ar.3724 said:
    If I ignored my stakeholders on a project for 2 years, I'd get fired.

    this is only yours and yours employer inner cooperation issue and/or vision. Don't share it for all world as single pattern please :)
    I am developer. Currently have on board task 7 year old.. Don't see any panic.

    So again, I ask,
    Alliances WHEN!?

    when be ready when be ready. Soon. Aprox1 -20 years. No kidding.

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @kamikharzeeh.8016 said:
    u see communication? where?

    I see message in 2018. This is enough. Push every day it not a way.

    yet in the november 2018 update all they said "update? here it is! we update u that we have no further info about when alliances launch but it is on a good way".

    good news!

    says things like "soon" means just nothing, if it takes over half a year.

    healf year is not a term. You can worry and think if it will be not 25 years answer.. But don't see any reason panic every day.

    meanwhile pvE people cry about having to wait like 1 month if even for the next part of the living world episode.

    every month new living world episode? What ???? lol

    modern games generate enough money to require updates at least every six months.

    we have enough updated. May be to much on wvw

    . instead the introduced a pretty bad mount that nobody wanted in Wvw.

    nice mount

    back then the "linked server system" was introduced as temporary solution. the idea of Alliances came up due to the massing complaints against the "links". this year they still talk about "soon". many of the Wvw players either feel pranked or lost faith. we don't talk about months, how can u compare years, by now over 1000 days to "daily updates"?

    WHAT ?? alianses will remove linked server ??? NO. HOPE you not properly understand this. Linked servers is one of best part on wvw.
    Sure you a wrong understand this. How I understand alianses give way whit less gem payment join on sever selected to guild, and don't lose pips week. What all.

  • @lare.5129 said:

    @Kylden Ar.3724 said:
    2 years ago now.

    this is mmo. So it can be soon. After 12 year may be. May be after 5. Soon. Not 100 years. If you play mmo game and think that 2 years is long term and per that term should be some action or respond I can say only "sorry, you don't understand spirit of mmo"

    And what’s the excuse for “discussing it in the upcoming months”?? it’s been over a year

    How about the “that one pvp guy in the back” comment? They obviously know they’re neglecting our modes. I suggest stop making excuses for companies that should know better, and probably do know better.

  • @Strider Pj.2193 said:
    Agreed. Just drop us a note, maybe a little nod to yay or nay... until then, we will continue to enjoy discussing this topic on this discussion forum!

    @vier.1327

    There are posters on this forum that consistently try to troll, and perform this function poorly. Don’t get pulled in.....

    Sadly I say this too late after responding to a kitten. You’re absolutely right though.

  • Strider Pj.2193Strider Pj.2193 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Calisanna.8732 said:

    @Strider Pj.2193 said:
    Agreed. Just drop us a note, maybe a little nod to yay or nay... until then, we will continue to enjoy discussing this topic on this discussion forum!

    @vier.1327

    There are posters on this forum that consistently try to troll, and perform this function poorly. Don’t get pulled in.....

    Sadly I say this too late after responding to a kitten. You’re absolutely right though.

    You are not alone. 🙂. I stopped with this particular one oh.. maybe a month ago.

    Now I ignore the posts and continue about my way.

    Thank You for the {MEME}

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 17, 2020

    ok, now when we see that some people vision for aliances is wrong, case not properly understand develop process what more we want know about word restricting?
    Have community any valid question, but not only span apout useless feature alianses, wich opposite can break gameplay and inject in our link-system some bad things?

  • Kylden Ar.3724Kylden Ar.3724 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @lare.5129 said:

    @Kylden Ar.3724 said:
    If I ignored my stakeholders on a project for 2 years, I'd get fired.

    this is only yours and yours employer inner cooperation issue and/or vision. Don't share it for all world as single pattern please :)
    I am developer. Currently have on board task 7 year old.. Don't see any panic.

    Please tell us who you develop for so we can never use you as a vendor then.

    How many times we gotta tell you GRIND IS NOT CONTENT there ANet?

    Leader of Tyrian Adventure Corp [TACO], member of [RaW][TACO][Owls][HELL] Alliance, Kaineng.

  • lare.5129lare.5129 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited December 17, 2020

    @Kylden Ar.3724 said:
    Please tell us who you develop for so we can never use you as a vendor then.

    I don't say it on this account, but funniest thing that I sure that you already use that product. It so funny, that I laugh 3 minutes. And one of fun that in these "free of monopoly :facepalm " you can't discard this product and not hurt proof of life. But back to that thread product process .. You still think that any task or case should be solved per half year??? Order it just by time creation order without other priorities and not check risks??? NOOO.
    This is normal, that some process eat more time that half year. Is this nice? no. But this is normal common state form many many other projects..
    This is not small startup. So you can be ready that many things that already implemented in text inside task we will see may be after 5 years, or 10, or 30.

  • Ubi.4136Ubi.4136 Member ✭✭✭✭

    No matter what people wont be happy with the implementation of alliances or alliance battles. I think this will be particularly hard on people who did not play GW: Factions, and don't know what "alliance battles" are. Sure, they introduced the idea with 3 way WvW in mind, but with the way the game is going, I think when they deliver Cantha (which is the earliest anyone could hope for "alliances") people should at least brace for the fact that it may mean the end of WvWvW and the beginning of Kurzick vs Luxon 2 way "alliance battles".

    Lost in the Maguuma (TC)
    For the geographically challenged, yes, Tarnished Coast is located IN the Maguuma Jungle.