Other players seeing your build? Is that possible?

Me and couple friends went into a raid for practice to understand mechanics. And this dude like blasted one of my friends for using the wrong build even though we’re in training. I was wondering how in the world was the possible if we haven’t fought yet?

Can that be avoided?

@Faaris.8013 said:

1. There is a gear check tool that violates Anet's Terms of Service, people use it anyway.
2. No, this cannot be avoided, but you can report the incident.

Highly unlikely that's what happened. He can see your passive skills such as signets just by targeting you. He can see what weapons you have currently equipped. You can see what kind of traits people might be using by using the information available to you.

What is most likely explanation is that he guessed you're doing something wrong as he knows what you should be playing. Like wearing full signet set instead of banners on warrior, or wielding longbow while playing druid. Such things are red flags in groups who expect meta comps and you don't need a gearcheck to see this.

There are also 3rd party tools which allow literally gearchecking players but they are not allowed and I don't think a training squad leader would run something like this.

Yes its possible. To do so they could have been using a program not allowed by Anet. If you can confirm through chat that they knew things about your build that they shouldn't have, report them and Anet might do something about it. Obviously the best proof would be filming and getting screen caps of the chat log.

Also, I don't care how well versed someone is in the game, no one is able to sleuth that hard about what build someone is running other than maybe weapon choice or a few buffs. Hardly enough to know build specifics.

Also, if you are around people telling you that you have the "wrong build" and don't want that to happen, then don't play with the wrong people. Tons of other players that aren't thinking that highly of themselves to play with.

@ProverbsofHell.2307 said:

@Faaris.8013 said:

1. There is a gear check tool that violates Anet's Terms of Service, people use it anyway.
2. No, this cannot be avoided, but you can report the incident.

It is extremely likely, use of this tool is common in dungeons, fractals and raids, and even though people aren't supposed to use it, its also hard to prove that they are beyond a doubt using it so it mostly goes unpunished. The usual red flag is when someone knows your runes and sigils, as they have no visible effects outside of combat, unlike many skills and traits.

Unfortunately, ArenaNet makes too much information available to the client that the client has no business knowing. This is to save on server costs and resources and is what makes many cheat programs possible.

It's both likely that they saw what you were running using an illegal third party tool, and that they discerned your build via watching you play. The reality is, there aren't THAT many available traits/skills to choose from, so depending on what your character does in game, it wouldn't be terribly difficult to figure out which traits you chose.

That said, if you are ever concerned that a player is using an illegal third party addon, especially to abuse other players in the game, please report that player. Anet has far more tools at their disposal than we ever could to investigate what happened, and can deal appropriately with the player if they were up to no good.

@Tolmos.8395 said:It's both likely that they saw what you were running using an illegal third party tool, and that they discerned your build via watching you play. The reality is, there aren't THAT many available traits/skills to choose from, so depending on what your character does in game, it wouldn't be terribly difficult to figure out which traits you chose.

That said, if you are ever concerned that a player is using an illegal third party addon, especially to abuse other players in the game, please report that player. Anet has far more tools at their disposal than we ever could to investigate what happened, and can deal appropriately with the player if they were up to no good.

They use mostly chat logs or movement speed. They can't really detect memory reading 3rd party app, like arcdps.

People that play all classes can easily tell the builds. Hell I can fire a single shot at a necro and instantly know if they are running trailblazer/dire meta condi scourge based on the damage I did.

Ok so maybe that one is too easy.