Rite of the great dwarf and Jade Winds.

Rite of the Great Dwarf should do damage really, and be cast in 3/4 second please. Also Jade Wind in 3/4 of a second, Also they are easily counterable and not as effective as Inspiring Reinforcement and Phase traversal wich are instants! and more effective, and cost less in the first way, wich give more free ability to cast another action.

They are setup to be big elite skills on super low cooldowns.

The day all the terribad hammer revs figure out that jade winds is a good thing to cast is the day we start seeing threads titled "nerf jade winds".

was funny seeing all the jade wind spam on Heart of Thorns beta. pve mobs couldnt do much

I think both skills are okay, if you can use them. At 50 energy they are not useable. I sneak in jade winds in sPvP sometimes, but it is really rare to be sitting with over 50 energy and find an opportunity where it would be useful.

Why should a pure defensive elite do damage out of the sudden?

I would be fine with them removong jade wins, making io our elite, and giving us some sort of damage avoidance in ios slot.

@Doctor.1384 said:I would be fine with them removong jade wins, making io our elite, and giving us some sort of damage avoidance in ios slot.

ew?

Jade Winds is an amazing cleave in WvW.

@Zyllias.9538 said:Rite of the Great Dwarf should do damage really, and be cast in 3/4 second please. Also Jade Wind in 3/4 of a second, Also they are easily counterable and not as effective as Inspiring Reinforcement and Phase traversal wich are instants! and more effective, and cost less in the first way, wich give more free ability to cast another action.

Jade Winds should be easily counterable. It is an AoE long stun with decent damage. You can't necessarily expect to succeed with it in all situations. I have seen JW used extremely effectively in PvP, oftentimes just the last bit to snowball a teamfight when everyone's defensive cooldowns and dodges are down.

Landing a Jade Winds is the most satisfying thing ever, specially if it's on multiple people.

Eh. I feel that RotGD doesn't need direct damage. I do wish it granted retaliation as well though. It would take advantage of more traits in the Dwarf Traitline, and be much more useful in both pvp and wvw.

I wish they moved the stun break from RotGD on Inspiring Reinforcement already.

Rite could do damage defensively, by giving you a long Retal boon on cast as well. It could also give you another 2% of damage if you're using herald so something like that wouldnt be too shabby. Impossible odds should give quickness still not phase, Phase should give vigor.

Add some damage to it AND weakness. Weakness goes well with bunker build and dwarf is designed to endure and sustain obviously.