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[Video] Power Mirage Roaming + gameplay tips

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  • Fat Disgrace.4275Fat Disgrace.4275 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 24, 2018

    @EikoLani.8592 said:

    @Colly.4073 said:
    Good fights in the video, but the build has really bad condition cleanse. How do you fair against a good scourge or other condi class?

    His build is a high risk build which requires a lot of mobility and stealth. His condition cleansing comes from Jaunt (remove one condition per jaunt), also, I would assume he's using renewing oasis a trait which helps mitigate conditions by reducing condition duration and provides him regeneration every time he using mirage cloak. Only flaw with with the use of this trait is that if a "good condition" thief was stacking a ton of poison he would have something to worry about as this trait doesn't affect poison but with the use of jaunt this is hardship that can be over come.

    I don't think you can call a build high risk with the above comment. Even going full beserker stats.

  • fost.9167fost.9167 Member ✭✭

    Probably not the place for it but i dont really enjoy GS but want to move away from hybrid... got any good tips tricks or builds for like sword/torch/scepter/pistol builds or should I give up now :)

  • apharma.3741apharma.3741 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Fat Disgrace.4275 said:

    @EikoLani.8592 said:

    @Colly.4073 said:
    Good fights in the video, but the build has really bad condition cleanse. How do you fair against a good scourge or other condi class?

    His build is a high risk build which requires a lot of mobility and stealth. His condition cleansing comes from Jaunt (remove one condition per jaunt), also, I would assume he's using renewing oasis a trait which helps mitigate conditions by reducing condition duration and provides him regeneration every time he using mirage cloak. Only flaw with with the use of this trait is that if a "good condition" thief was stacking a ton of poison he would have something to worry about as this trait doesn't affect poison but with the use of jaunt this is hardship that can be over come.

    I don't think you can call a build high risk with the above comment. Even going full beserker stats.

    Risk is relative though. Stab knocks a lot of damage off the build forcing you to rely on amplifying damage by might from split surge because without superiority complex or mental anguish your F1 doesn't hit particularly hard vs what a holo can do with any photon forge skill.

    I've played the build for well over 6 months and fought a wide variety of classes, a condi player of equal skill has a big advantage against you especially now vigor has been nerfed on mirage. Many current builds should not have too much of a difficulty with this kind of build and the build does worse and worse as more people get into a fight due to it's sacrifice of damage mods for on interrupt damage and clone generation which get cleaved out really easily.

    There's certainly more risk to the build than say holo, condi mirage, druid/soulbeast, spellbreaker, perma stealth DE (with 1-2 other classes so no-one notices you). Those are what I see often and maybe those weird FB builds that never die

  • Jazz.4639Jazz.4639 Member ✭✭✭
    edited November 9, 2018

    @fost.9167 said:
    Probably not the place for it but i dont really enjoy GS but want to move away from hybrid... got any good tips tricks or builds for like sword/torch/scepter/pistol builds or should I give up now :)

    hi no actually with all the buffs to scepter and sword offhand you can make a very strong powerbuild with the weapons you mentioned. prob not that usefull in conquest but for sure very good in wvw roaming and duelling. i would need more time to make a proper build incl testing different variants to find the best but this one sure worth a try: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vhAQRAra8fnELDFMjVoBmpBMMjlVDrcDMCCAobhzwTwfAmAfgA-j1xHABA8QAC4IA89JAwL9D9s/o8jJlgvr+DpAyTrF-w

    @apharma.3741 long time no see, welcome back :)

  • Jazz.4639Jazz.4639 Member ✭✭✭

    hi im back with a new wvw vid, (outnumbered) roaming/shirmishes with power mes (mirage and chrono) incl. a build preview for my new high burts quickness power chrono build i will use in the chono vid i promised to someone. chrono vid will need a while, because i need to get used to old dodges, old keybinds (i play chrono with some other keybinds than mirage) and chrono in general but you can see a bit of footage already in this vid! hope few of you can enjoy! feedback/ comment and likes also on youtube are welcome :)

    Link:

  • apharma.3741apharma.3741 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Because you'll never see it on the WvW forum you sell out!

    I do like the interrupt build, always have.

    I was trying something similar with the quickness with chronophantasma, interestingly you get quickness from each time the phantasm despawns, but chronophantasma I think isn't worth it.

    Nice vid as always.

    First.

  • Jazz.4639Jazz.4639 Member ✭✭✭

    @apharma.3741 said:
    Because you'll never see it on the WvW forum you sell out!

    I do like the interrupt build, always have.

    I was trying something similar with the quickness with chronophantasma, interestingly you get quickness from each time the phantasm despawns, but chronophantasma I think isn't worth it.

    Nice vid as always.

    First.

    haha thx again for taking the time to post it twice! but ofc i will see your comment in the other forum too, i get notifications about it! yes i think quickness is so much better than chronophantasma and i prefer stuff you can actively work with over npcs doing my work anyway. ;)

  • apharma.3741apharma.3741 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Jazz.4639 said:

    @apharma.3741 said:
    Because you'll never see it on the WvW forum you sell out!

    I do like the interrupt build, always have.

    I was trying something similar with the quickness with chronophantasma, interestingly you get quickness from each time the phantasm despawns, but chronophantasma I think isn't worth it.

    Nice vid as always.

    First.

    haha thx again for taking the time to post it twice! but ofc i will see your comment in the other forum too, i get notifications about it! yes i think quickness is so much better than chronophantasma and i prefer stuff you can actively work with over npcs doing my work anyway. ;)

    "Well, there's a chance you might be in the wrong business, Rogers."

  • Jazz.4639Jazz.4639 Member ✭✭✭

    @apharma.3741 said:

    @Jazz.4639 said:

    @apharma.3741 said:
    Because you'll never see it on the WvW forum you sell out!

    I do like the interrupt build, always have.

    I was trying something similar with the quickness with chronophantasma, interestingly you get quickness from each time the phantasm despawns, but chronophantasma I think isn't worth it.

    Nice vid as always.

    First.

    haha thx again for taking the time to post it twice! but ofc i will see your comment in the other forum too, i get notifications about it! yes i think quickness is so much better than chronophantasma and i prefer stuff you can actively work with over npcs doing my work anyway. ;)

    "Well, there's a chance you might be in the wrong business, Rogers."

    haha no, clones dont do anything at their own and as long as phantasms only attack once and are not op in dmg its ok ;)

  • Jazz.4639Jazz.4639 Member ✭✭✭
    edited December 4, 2018

    new vid, 2v2 tournaments with power mirage. pls notice the vid description/ pinned comment as always! feedback/comments and likes also on youtube are welcome as always! textediting incl. some engl. subtitles for the german audio sequenzes i added this time. hope few of you can enjoy, :) also check the youtube channels from Nici (Rev) and Illithex (Thief, Multiclass), awesome player and youtuber (links in the vid-description).

  • EremiteAngel.9765EremiteAngel.9765 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Hello, I was wondering if you can help advise me on a fight I had with a power mirage earlier.
    The fight was at the 2 hour 20 mins and 40 seconds mark on his stream below.

    We fought 3 times and he won twice.
    TBH I fought half-blind as I knew only to dodge his Greatsword 2 while not really knowing when he was vulnerable to pressure.
    Appreciate if you can help provide any tips to fight against a power mirage.

    Also like was he running a common power mirage build?
    And if you were to rate him out of 10 in accordance to the skill level of WvW roaming mirages, how much would he be?
    He was an Indomitable Legend title Power Mirage so I think that means he has crossed into legendary division in PvP.

  • DedalNort.3627DedalNort.3627 Member ✭✭
    edited December 14, 2018

    @EremiteAngel.9765 said:
    Hello, I was wondering if you can help advise me on a fight I had with a power mirage earlier.

    It looks like Jazz got banned here. So you have to wait or go to his youtube channel and ask there.

  • EremiteAngel.9765EremiteAngel.9765 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @DedalNort.3627 said:
    It looks like Jazz got banned. So you have to wait or ask him at his youtube channel.

    @EremiteAngel.9765 said:
    Hello, I was wondering if you can help advise me on a fight I had with a power mirage earlier.

    It looks like Jazz got banned here. So you have to wait or go to his youtube channel and ask there.

    wow okay.
    Hope its nothing serious and he gets back soon.
    Thanks!

  • Jazz.4639Jazz.4639 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 12, 2019

    @EremiteAngel.9765 said:
    Hello, I was wondering if you can help advise me on a fight I had with a power mirage earlier.
    The fight was at the 2 hour 20 mins and 40 seconds mark on his stream below.

    We fought 3 times and he won twice.
    TBH I fought half-blind as I knew only to dodge his Greatsword 2 while not really knowing when he was vulnerable to pressure.
    Appreciate if you can help provide any tips to fight against a power mirage.

    Also like was he running a common power mirage build?
    And if you were to rate him out of 10 in accordance to the skill level of WvW roaming mirages, how much would he be?
    He was an Indomitable Legend title Power Mirage so I think that means he has crossed into legendary division in PvP.

    hi sry for the late answer, sadly i cant watch the twitch clip, its not loading for me, maybe it got removed meanwhile?

    tips vs power mirages in general: as you said dodge gs2 that is the most important, but also the phantasms (zerker from gs and torch phant) should be avoided (torch phant you often can just outkite by running out of range or away from the direction he is casting to or running into his back, important is, that the phantasm already stopped running and started to move his armes up otherwise it will just follow your direction and still hit you). always dodge or block into shattered clones never away from them otherwise they just run behind you and hit you right after your def skill runs out. only kite shattered clones when you have no defskill rdy to avoid the shatter from them. best moment to hit players (not only mirages) is right after they dodged, even when they have another dodge rdy there is a small window you can hit them most of the time (if they do not randomly double dodge for no reason). otherwise count dodges and be aware that they have a new dodge rdy after every weaponswap (in wvw at least). most vulnerable but also most dangerous are mirages when they are on gs, during sword/x is the defensive weaponset and only melee, so for that very predictable. staying near a power mirage who switched to gs and run in his back will annoy him and make it harder to hit skills just like for a bow ranger. but dont feel too safe, when he knows how to use automatic char alignment he can still hit you. mnost mirages even the rly good ones start blurred right after they swapped to s/x, so just be patient at this point and wait it out, burst after blurred (and maybe another dodge, depends on how paniced/ under pressure the mirage feels and if he is in invuln frame chaining or not). also try not to get immobilized by sword 3. without stun that is the only sure to hit burst start up we have now. some mirages like to wait a bit after they casted the clone to make you waste a dodge and then swap for the immob, here you need to have a feeling for the skill lvl of the mirage (is he baiting/mindgaming or not?).
    in general necro is in disadvantage vs power mes even tho that also depends on build of the necro a bit, there are some quite tanky ds heavy builds out with still a lot of dmg clearly have a chance to win when mes is not playing perfectly.
    i forgot: a good moment to hit a mirage is when they are leaping with sword ambush without being right in front of you already, then they cant cover the whole leap with the dodge frame but are stucked in the leap (take care for the swordclone he will leap and daze too, that he will not rupt you).
    with a good movement you can dictate a lot of the fight because the npcs are dumb and scripted in how they act. with kiting you can dictate a lot of timing the illusions start attacking or reaching you. sword leapes also from clones also like to miss a lot when you move in a good way (like cross their leap direction, run into their back, run out of their leap range etc).

    and you can interupt phantasm casts so they become clones immediately and dont do phantasm dmg. they can also be blinded (good vs torchphant but will not avoid all gs zerker hits)

  • whoknocks.4935whoknocks.4935 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I don't know, but most of the times I feel power mirage vs power mirage fight is based on luck.

    I am not a good power mirage by any mean, but it's happened many times I got susprised by a platinum or mithrill rank power mirage who played the profession for years and as a main, and turning back the fight I won and got trash talked in whispers.

    And other times I get randomly killed by some footman power mirage who gets downed by pve mobs around the map, it doesn't make any sense to me.

    Against other professions you can see the improvement of your fights, especially against warriors and holo which are very tough for me, but mirror match seems all luckluster for me.

  • Jazz.4639Jazz.4639 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 13, 2019

    @whoknocks.4935 said:
    I don't know, but most of the times I feel power mirage vs power mirage fight is based on luck.

    I am not a good power mirage by any mean, but it's happened many times I got susprised by a platinum or mithrill rank power mirage who played the profession for years and as a main, and turning back the fight I won and got trash talked in whispers.

    And other times I get randomly killed by some footman power mirage who gets downed by pve mobs around the map, it doesn't make any sense to me.

    Against other professions you can see the improvement of your fights, especially against warriors and holo which are very tough for me, but mirror match seems all luckluster for me.

    thats more about that rank means nothing not in pvp and even more not in wvw. and there are average or very untalented mesmer mains. so that doesnt rly say anything about how much skill is involved in a matchup. power mes vs power mes has some rdm stuff esp when superior complex trait oneshot builds get played or when both mesmer with these gs ambush abuse spam builds fight each other but all in all power shatter mes vs power shatter mes is skillbased. ofc a worse mes can win here and there vs a way better mes (for example when he lucky hits his burst first) but over a bigger number of duels the better mes would clearly win more (mirror build duels).

  • whoknocks.4935whoknocks.4935 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Jazz.4639 said:

    @whoknocks.4935 said:
    I don't know, but most of the times I feel power mirage vs power mirage fight is based on luck.

    I am not a good power mirage by any mean, but it's happened many times I got susprised by a platinum or mithrill rank power mirage who played the profession for years and as a main, and turning back the fight I won and got trash talked in whispers.

    And other times I get randomly killed by some footman power mirage who gets downed by pve mobs around the map, it doesn't make any sense to me.

    Against other professions you can see the improvement of your fights, especially against warriors and holo which are very tough for me, but mirror match seems all luckluster for me.

    thats more about that rank means nothing not in pvp and even more not in wvw. and there are average or very untalented mesmer mains. so that doesnt rly say anything about how much skill is involved in a matchup. power mes vs power mes has some rdm stuff esp when superior complex trait oneshot builds get played or when both mesmer with these gs ambush abuse spam builds fight each other but all in all power shatter mes vs power shatter mes is skillbased. ofc a worse mes can win here and there vs a way better mes (for example when he lucky hits his burst first) but over a bigger number of duels the better mes would clearly win more (mirror build duels).

    Yeah i think you are right.
    But if a guy always roamed with mesmer and he is platinum rank, he has years of experience with the profession (it was confirmed many times by them when I asked).
    And sometimes some of those guys whispers me: "kitten idiot hacking kitten"
    And to be honest sometimes in all the clones spam by both of us I am not sure why I won over them xD

    But yeah maybe in 30 duels they will win constantly over me like 25 times.
    I think lag and ping plays a crucial role too.

  • Jazz.4639Jazz.4639 Member ✭✭✭

    @whoknocks.4935 said:

    @Jazz.4639 said:

    @whoknocks.4935 said:
    I don't know, but most of the times I feel power mirage vs power mirage fight is based on luck.

    I am not a good power mirage by any mean, but it's happened many times I got susprised by a platinum or mithrill rank power mirage who played the profession for years and as a main, and turning back the fight I won and got trash talked in whispers.

    And other times I get randomly killed by some footman power mirage who gets downed by pve mobs around the map, it doesn't make any sense to me.

    Against other professions you can see the improvement of your fights, especially against warriors and holo which are very tough for me, but mirror match seems all luckluster for me.

    thats more about that rank means nothing not in pvp and even more not in wvw. and there are average or very untalented mesmer mains. so that doesnt rly say anything about how much skill is involved in a matchup. power mes vs power mes has some rdm stuff esp when superior complex trait oneshot builds get played or when both mesmer with these gs ambush abuse spam builds fight each other but all in all power shatter mes vs power shatter mes is skillbased. ofc a worse mes can win here and there vs a way better mes (for example when he lucky hits his burst first) but over a bigger number of duels the better mes would clearly win more (mirror build duels).

    Yeah i think you are right.
    But if a guy always roamed with mesmer and he is platinum rank, he has years of experience with the profession (it was confirmed many times by them when I asked).
    And sometimes some of those guys whispers me: "kitten idiot hacking kitten"
    And to be honest sometimes in all the clones spam by both of us I am not sure why I won over them xD

    But yeah maybe in 30 duels they will win constantly over me like 25 times.
    I think lag and ping plays a crucial role too.

    lol the way they whisper already show their low knowledge and from that prob low skill on mesmer even after years of playing. maybe they karmatrained their way up or they just dont care about getting better. i dunno but it happens.

    @whoknocks.4935 said:
    And to be honest sometimes in all the clones spam by both of us I am not sure why I won over them xD

    hehe ofc when you both more or less random spam your skills and dodgeclones trying to find the other mesmer than yes it will mostly be random who wins, most likely the one with better crit- and hit- luck on gs ambush and better clone pathing at this point ;) but in duels with one or even both mesmer know what they are doing (except few builds i mentioned in the post before) than the better mes will clearly win more duels.

  • Dawdler.8521Dawdler.8521 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 13, 2019

    @whoknocks.4935 said:
    I don't know, but most of the times I feel power mirage vs power mirage fight is based on luck.

    Because just like the thief, the mesmer is a class that can catch people by surprise and take them out without a real fight. You know that thing we've been trying to argue in the thief thread, that thief vs mesmer is not a guaranteed win because both have the capability to roflstomp each other. The fight is often in favor of whoever is lucky enough to get the drop on the other, especially if both are glass.

  • Jazz.4639Jazz.4639 Member ✭✭✭

    hi WvW vid up with my new high burst power chrono build Quickow. Pls read the vid description/ pinned comment as always! Hope you can enjoy:

  • Jazz.4639Jazz.4639 Member ✭✭✭
    edited February 17, 2019

    hi all, new vid up, now the duels with my quickow burst chronobuild i couldnt use in the previous vid because it was 20 mins already. the cringe intro was a request born out of a joke, so dont blame me :wink: if you dont like intros start the vid at 1:11

  • apharma.3741apharma.3741 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 16, 2019

    @Jazz.4639 said:
    hi all, new vid up, now the duels with my quickow burst chronobuild i couldnt use in the previous vid because it was 20 mins already. the bad erp intro was a request born out of a joke, so dont blame me :wink: if you dont like intros start the vid at 1:11

    Where's the NSFW warning? There's an Asura with no clothes on!

    Edit: Hmmm something I'm noticing about your fights is you're getting into a pattern that might be easy for other people to learn and exploit, are these not very challenging fights or something? Nice outplay of the ele at the end.

    Also killing that rev made me happy.

  • Jazz.4639Jazz.4639 Member ✭✭✭

    @apharma.3741 said:

    @Jazz.4639 said:
    hi all, new vid up, now the duels with my quickow burst chronobuild i couldnt use in the previous vid because it was 20 mins already. the bad erp intro was a request born out of a joke, so dont blame me :wink: if you dont like intros start the vid at 1:11

    Where's the NSFW warning? There's an Asura with no clothes on!

    Edit: Hmmm something I'm noticing about your fights is you're getting into a pattern that might be easy for other people to learn and exploit, are these not very challenging fights or something? Nice outplay of the ele at the end.

    Also killing that rev made me happy.

    the asuras are not rly nacked hehe
    not sure what you mean, can you explain more pls?

  • Jazz.4639Jazz.4639 Member ✭✭✭

    As promised now the maybe last ranked pvp vid with power mirage with portal equipped. Footage is from pre portal nerf (S14). Currently im running Illusion of Life (IoL) instead portal. This vid also includes lot of rotations/ rotation decisions and not only fights, fights, fights. I try to explain my thoughts as good as i can. Hope you can enjoy! Support is always appreciated so pls leave a comment, like and a subs on youtube if you like! Notice the vid description as always! Thx!

  • Jazz.4639Jazz.4639 Member ✭✭✭

    S15 ranked PvP Roaming with my Power Mesmer / Mirage on Support-Burst - Hybrid (Interrupt-) Build with new support utility Illusion of Life. Also great music (at least i think so muha). Hope you can enjoy! Notice the vid descritption as always pls.

  • I was about to spend all my gold crafting a full set of condi or hybrid gear because I am pretty new and I'm getting demolished 1v1 with power mirage.
    After watching your vids I realized I dont need to switch builds, I just need to get good.
    Your guides are really helpful and entertaining and the music is also really good.
    Plus you donate all the money your channel makes to animal welfare? That is so awesome! I am a strong believer in animal rights and welfare.
    Subbed and liked.

  • Jazz.4639Jazz.4639 Member ✭✭✭
    edited March 24, 2019

    @Tulkas.2576 said:
    I was about to spend all my gold crafting a full set of condi or hybrid gear because I am pretty new and I'm getting demolished 1v1 with power mirage.
    After watching your vids I realized I dont need to switch builds, I just need to get good.
    Your guides are really helpful and entertaining and the music is also really good.
    Plus you donate all the money your channel makes to animal welfare? That is so awesome! I am a strong believer in animal rights and welfare.
    Subbed and liked.

    awww big thx, its rly nice to get some feedback, esp good one here and there! :) im very happy you like my vids and they even help! also happy you like the music since i put a lot of time into searching music not everyone knows already or got used in other vids 20000 times. like and subs is highly appreciated!
    yes i donate all money i get for animals. same for me, it could make me crazy when i think about how many pain lot of animals have to suffer, often bc of us humans. sadly im not rly good in promoting myself (i spam the vid link in forums but thats it), also anet cannot promote my vids bc of the copyright music, so the support (views, likes, comments, link uses) on my channel and the money for the animals isnt that high and decreasing hard lately but still every bit can help to make life for animals better.

    if you have any questions/ need any help with power mes dont hesitate to ask me, im sure you will be a great power mes with some training and when experience increase. welcome to a great game and grats for choosing the best class hehe <3

  • Wow thanks. Yeah I am excited. Love the class and I'm glad it seems like the kind of class that has as much potential as skill allows, so I just need to keep practising and I will make sure to come here and ask you about stuff I dont know about (which is a lot)
    Also I dont think the amount of money is as important as the idea itself for helping animals. Like 99% of animal suffering caused by humans is just because people don't think about it, not because people want to intentionally hurt animals. So I just think it's awesome that the intention to help is there and that always says a lot to me about a person when they go out of their way to think about and consider the voiceless in their actions and decisions.

    Plus your channel has so much good info and all those general tips and stuff, I really wish I'd found it sooner and I'll be sure to send people your way as much as I can.

  • Jazz.4639Jazz.4639 Member ✭✭✭

    @Tulkas.2576 said:
    Wow thanks. Yeah I am excited. Love the class and I'm glad it seems like the kind of class that has as much potential as skill allows, so I just need to keep practising and I will make sure to come here and ask you about stuff I dont know about (which is a lot)
    Also I dont think the amount of money is as important as the idea itself for helping animals. Like 99% of animal suffering caused by humans is just because people don't think about it, not because people want to intentionally hurt animals. So I just think it's awesome that the intention to help is there and that always says a lot to me about a person when they go out of their way to think about and consider the voiceless in their actions and decisions.

    Plus your channel has so much good info and all those general tips and stuff, I really wish I'd found it sooner and I'll be sure to send people your way as much as I can.

    Yeah true and thx you <3

  • Jazz.4639Jazz.4639 Member ✭✭✭
    edited April 23, 2019

    S16 ranked PvP Roaming with my Power Mesmer / Mirage on Support-Burst -Hybrid Interrupt Build with support utility Illusion of Life. 5 Placements matches . Added more tips and explanations on rotations and tactics this time (also basics for beginners). Hope it helps since i got asked about power mesmer rotas a lot. Sry for no editing but no time. For that the music is awesome (but kinda calm) i think!

    Sry for the long delay but was very busy irl the last 2 months. Still no time for vid editing in the next few weeks, so the next vid maybe will need a bit more time too. Hopefully then i can make vids more often again.

    If you wanna support my YouTube channel pls subscribe, give a thumb up on the vid and leave a comment/feedack on YouTube. Helps a lot! thx!

    Notice the vid description as always! Hope you can enjoy!

    greetings jazz :)

  • Jazz.4639Jazz.4639 Member ✭✭✭

    Hi new vid up. Outnumbered roaming and ofc some oneshots with my quickow power chrono build. mini guide for the oneshot combo and f5 combos following soon as requested. Top edit by Illithex. Hope you can enjoy! Pls notice the vid description/ or pinned comment under the vid! If you like to support my channel pls leave a thumb up and comment on YouTube and subs in case you havent already! greeting jazz

  • viquing.8254viquing.8254 Member ✭✭✭

    Hey, Nice vid overall. Some good outnumbered.
    Negative points for me :

    • Little repetitive sometimes.
    • Many opponents didn't even react to the basics of mes attacks even when they clearly saw a "hey I will burst"... <= you know the yokels who spam "mesmer is OP" continually why playing squisshy with a oyster reaction time versus burst class.
    • Few scenes cut before the end of the fight.

    I have two questions :

    • Why sword over scepter in a non mirage build ?
    • Quickness on rupt is interesting but with no boon clear on shatter, neither arcane thievery, how did you manage boon class ? (like the DH who were cut. at the end for example.)
  • Jazz.4639Jazz.4639 Member ✭✭✭
    edited May 10, 2019

    @viquing.8254 said:
    Hey, Nice vid overall. Some good outnumbered.
    Negative points for me :

    • Little repetitive sometimes.
    • Many opponents didn't even react to the basics of mes attacks even when they clearly saw a "hey I will burst"... <= you know the yokels who spam "mesmer is OP" continually why playing squisshy with a oyster reaction time versus burst class.
    • Few scenes cut before the end of the fight.

    I have two questions :

    • Why sword over scepter in a non mirage build ?
    • Quickness on rupt is interesting but with no boon clear on shatter, neither arcane thievery, how did you manage boon class ? (like the DH who were cut. at the end for example.)

    Hi big thx for your feedback, im happy you like the vid overall :)

    Some fights were cut only to a specific f5 combo or for editing purposes (sync with music). i made sure everyone in the vid wasnt afk and could see me around before i attacked/ stealthed. skill lvl of some of the ppl aside the combo is very fast and a lot of ppl have problems to avoid it. repetitiv i guess you mean the oneshots with the f5 blink burst, yeah that was mostly for editing in that amount and ppl like to watch it, dunno why tbh. i prefer a longer and more tactical fight with my power mirage support burst hybrid over these insane dmg build fights last for 3 secs. just as you could see, even when the first burst gets evaded, this build has so much dmg with just every thing i do, its hard to stay alive vs it when not full bunker. you can use boonremove on shatter instead the quickness (in pvp i prefer that trait by far tho) but in the end the only boon you need to care about with this build is stabi, all other boons you just burst through like you dont need to care for protection or reggen etc. at all. and you can play around the stabi most of the time (if you dont forget that you dont have boonremove on shatter like me ;) ).
    im a challenge player, i dont like scepter because it has a lower skill need than sword and less combo opportunities, even after recent nerfs and im already carried enough by passive dmg multiplier with that build.

  • viquing.8254viquing.8254 Member ✭✭✭
    edited May 11, 2019

    Thanks for answer and explanations.

    @Jazz.4639 said:
    im a challenge player, i dont like scepter because it has a lower skill need than sword and less combo opportunities, even after recent nerfs and im already carried enough by passive dmg multiplier with that build.

    I'm talking about efficiency more than "skill".

    • Scepter hit way more than sword because most opponents have perma swiftness, superspeed, teleport etc while we have only max 2 gap closer. (even if we rarely autoing.)
    • Sword 2 is ultra weak to retaliation while scepter 2 hit more often (range.).
    • Scepter 3 hit more often than sword2.
    • Talking about combo, 2 clone from scepter 2 allow more shatter combo than sword 3 leap. (mele F1 burst, F3, remove stab, F4 tempo and so on.)

    And I even not comparing mesmer MH with other class MH because the gap is real talking about output damage.

    So yeah taking something less efficient is harder of course but independently of your vid I think there is a real problem with sword efficiency actually.
    BTW thanks for vids.

  • Jazz.4639Jazz.4639 Member ✭✭✭

    @viquing.8254 said:
    Thanks for answer and explanations.

    @Jazz.4639 said:
    im a challenge player, i dont like scepter because it has a lower skill need than sword and less combo opportunities, even after recent nerfs and im already carried enough by passive dmg multiplier with that build.

    I'm talking about efficiency more than "skill".

    • Scepter hit way more than sword because most opponents have perma swiftness, superspeed, teleport etc while we have only max 2 gap closer. (even if we rarely autoing.)
    • Sword 2 is ultra weak to retaliation while scepter 2 hit more often (range.).
    • Scepter 3 hit more often than sword2.
    • Talking about combo, 2 clone from scepter 2 allow more shatter combo than sword 3 leap. (mele F1 burst, F3, remove stab, F4 tempo and so on.)

    And I even not comparing mesmer MH with other class MH because the gap is real talking about output damage.

    So yeah taking something less efficient is harder of course but independently of your vid I think there is a real problem with sword efficiency actually.
    BTW thanks for vids.

    yes i know you talked about efficiency but you asked why i dont use scepter, the reason is not efficiency based its based on my taste. with combos i mean what you can do with s3, you can combine it with not only sw2+f1 for a quitburst, you also can combine it with a weaponswap gs2 burst etc. it gives you infight mobility and bait potential. it is way more flexible than scepter. the moment your target is near you sword is also stronger than scepter i would say. sword gives utility, scepter gives more dmg. i always prefer utility stuff because it is something you can active work with and outplay opponents during scepter feels pretty spammy and simple evade chaining. Shorter: you can play scepter with this build for sure, it gives you easier applied dmg and evade chain potential but its weaker in melee combat where you also wanna be with gs most of the time and it has less outplay potential, the only reason it is good is because its easier to play and esp scepter 2 is still kinda busted.

    hehe was my pleasure to make this vid (or better illithex did it, im an editing noob) big thx for watching and giving feedback. that encourages to continue <3

  • Jazz.4639Jazz.4639 Member ✭✭✭

    Hi as requested the oneshot combo incl continuum split step by step explained. After that few examples of f5 combos with more than zero clones up. I hope it helps few of you. Again with top editing from Illithex! German subtitle available!

    Pls notice the vid description/ or pinned comment under the vid. Incl a link to another chronomancer f5-guide from me.

    If you want to support my channel pls leave a like and a comment and a subs on youtube. Thx <3

  • viquing.8254viquing.8254 Member ✭✭✭

    I would love to see the full match vs Fly (just because it's a really hard counter to power mes.).
    Interesting uses of Illusion of life. I will give it a try next season.
    I noticed the wink with vertical sword 3 teleport ;).

  • Jazz.4639Jazz.4639 Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 3, 2019

    @viquing.8254 said:
    I would love to see the full match vs Fly (just because it's a really hard counter to power mes.).
    Interesting uses of Illusion of life. I will give it a try next season.
    I noticed the wink with vertical sword 3 teleport ;).

    its already deleted but i remember it, we lost it closely. but i didnt rly have much problems with the thief, he wasnt rly focusing me, dunno why. prob he found some targets faster to kill than me. i remember one time he chased me down with 2 others because 3 ppl of my team were dead. Yes try it, i love IoL.

    hehe ;)

    thx for watching/ the feedback! <3

  • praqtos.9035praqtos.9035 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited June 4, 2019

    @viquing.8254 said:
    I would love to see the full match vs Fly (just because it's a really hard counter to power mes.).
    Interesting uses of Illusion of life. I will give it a try next season.
    I noticed the wink with vertical sword 3 teleport ;).

    Force Jaz to q into Levin and record it :joy:

  • Jazz.4639Jazz.4639 Member ✭✭✭

    @praqtos.9035 said:

    @viquing.8254 said:
    I would love to see the full match vs Fly (just because it's a really hard counter to power mes.).
    Interesting uses of Illusion of life. I will give it a try next season.
    I noticed the wink with vertical sword 3 teleport ;).

    Force Jaz to q into Levin and record it :joy:

    i had one match vs levin i remember, he could kill me one time the whole match after trying a lot. in the second half of the match he switched target to the rev in my team. my team won that match ;)

  • praqtos.9035praqtos.9035 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Jazz.4639 said:

    @praqtos.9035 said:

    @viquing.8254 said:
    I would love to see the full match vs Fly (just because it's a really hard counter to power mes.).
    Interesting uses of Illusion of life. I will give it a try next season.
    I noticed the wink with vertical sword 3 teleport ;).

    Force Jaz to q into Levin and record it :joy:

    i had one match vs levin i remember, he could kill me one time the whole match after trying a lot. in the second half of the match he switched target to the rev in my team. my team won that match ;)

    And I said ...record :D

  • Jazz.4639Jazz.4639 Member ✭✭✭
    edited June 4, 2019

    @praqtos.9035 said:

    @Jazz.4639 said:

    @praqtos.9035 said:

    @viquing.8254 said:
    I would love to see the full match vs Fly (just because it's a really hard counter to power mes.).
    Interesting uses of Illusion of life. I will give it a try next season.
    I noticed the wink with vertical sword 3 teleport ;).

    Force Jaz to q into Levin and record it :joy:

    i had one match vs levin i remember, he could kill me one time the whole match after trying a lot. in the second half of the match he switched target to the rev in my team. my team won that match ;)

    And I said ...record :D

    sad thing is, it even was recorded (just searched for it after i saw your post) but i cant find it anymore. there wasnt rly any mega interesting footage for a montage from my pov (even tho their team was pretty stacked), maybe as a whole uncut match it would have been a thing. i obviously deleted it after i finished the montage meeh. it was on new coliseum map, not too hard to kite/ survive a thief there tho

  • apharma.3741apharma.3741 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Just popping in to say I still like your videos, glad you don't play all the really strong stuff but it's a shame you're getting hit with nerf bats too. Keep it up! @Jazz.4639

  • praqtos.9035praqtos.9035 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 15, 2019

    @apharma.3741 said:
    Just popping in to say I still like your videos, glad you don't play all the really strong stuff but it's a shame you're getting hit with nerf bats too. Keep it up! @Jazz.4639

    From what I have seen Jazz didnt like chrono to begin with(oneshot). And still like the starwars lasers

  • apharma.3741apharma.3741 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @praqtos.9035 said:

    @apharma.3741 said:
    Just popping in to say I still like your videos, glad you don't play all the really strong stuff but it's a shame you're getting hit with nerf bats too. Keep it up! @Jazz.4639

    From what I have seen Jazz didnt like chrono to begin with(oneshot). And still like the starwars lasers

    Her builds were affected by the changes to blinding dissipation and I haven't posted from before then. People want mesmer gutted so much it will auto lose all match ups unless you are significantly better than them and Jazz will get affected by those nerfs at some point.

    I mean people are already wanting IoL gutted to be as bad as ele rez glyphs with 3.5s cast.

  • Jazz.4639Jazz.4639 Member ✭✭✭
    edited July 17, 2019

    @apharma.3741 said:
    Just popping in to say I still like your videos, glad you don't play all the really strong stuff but it's a shame you're getting hit with nerf bats too. Keep it up! @Jazz.4639

    aaawww big thx its nice to hear that <3 my youtube is a bit in summerbreak atm but i will do more vids soon.

    luckily my main build (power mirage support hybrid) didnt rly get nerfed that much until now. the f2 change wasnt as bad as i first thought, i even like it now. but if they do with mirage spec the same stupid things they did with chrono, then i dont know what i will do. no ip and no f4 is so bad. the worst thing is that you cant rly combo anymore with chrono what takes away some of its identity and also some skillneed away from the mesmer class that should be in every elite spec no matter of its nature. if they take away ip from mirage and kill distortion the same way by put a useless 1 sec invul on an shatter you need to use for other things at other times instead for surviving, then it might be the first time i get mad enough to do a break or stop playing the game. im so sad and mad about the insanely bad chrono changes…

    @praqtos.9035 said:

    @apharma.3741 said:
    Just popping in to say I still like your videos, glad you don't play all the really strong stuff but it's a shame you're getting hit with nerf bats too. Keep it up! @Jazz.4639

    From what I have seen Jazz didnt like chrono to begin with(oneshot). And still like the starwars lasers

    i played power chrono all hot duration long and my new chrono build quickow is more or less a oneshot chrono build and i made more than one vid with it. i like power chrono. but yes the oneshot builds i dont play for that long, just here and there for a bit of variety, since they get boring with the time bc they are so one dimensionally, repetitive, not interactive and easy to play.
    If you mean with laserwars these gs ambush spam builds then i also never played this either for the same reasons. i play an interrupt focused team support build you would not even use half its potential when you stay max range and spam gs autos most of the time.

  • apharma.3741apharma.3741 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Jazz.4639 said:

    @apharma.3741 said:
    Just popping in to say I still like your videos, glad you don't play all the really strong stuff but it's a shame you're getting hit with nerf bats too. Keep it up! @Jazz.4639

    aaawww big thx its nice to hear that <3 my youtube is a bit in summerbreak atm but i will do more vids soon.

    luckily my main build (power mirage support hybrid) didnt rly get nerfed that much until now. the f2 change wasnt as bad as i first thought, i even like it now. but if they do with mirage spec the same stupid things they did with chrono, then i dont know what i will do. no ip and no f4 is so bad. the worst thing is that you cant rly combo anymore with chrono what takes away some of its identity and also some skillneed away from the mesmer class that should be in every elite spec no matter of its nature. if they take away ip from mirage and kill distortion the same way by put a useless 1 sec invul on an shatter you need to use for other things at other times instead for surviving, then it might be the first time i get mad enough to do a break or stop playing the game. im so sad and mad about the insanely bad chrono changes…

    Well the nerf brigade are out in full force. They want CI deleting from the game, last I checked interrupt traits actually needed skill to use and you quite like interrupt builds. Either way I lost hope in the devs and the community is largely bad and first order thinkers.

  • Lincolnbeard.1735Lincolnbeard.1735 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited July 18, 2019

    @apharma.3741 said:

    @Jazz.4639 said:

    @apharma.3741 said:
    Just popping in to say I still like your videos, glad you don't play all the really strong stuff but it's a shame you're getting hit with nerf bats too. Keep it up! @Jazz.4639

    aaawww big thx its nice to hear that <3 my youtube is a bit in summerbreak atm but i will do more vids soon.

    luckily my main build (power mirage support hybrid) didnt rly get nerfed that much until now. the f2 change wasnt as bad as i first thought, i even like it now. but if they do with mirage spec the same stupid things they did with chrono, then i dont know what i will do. no ip and no f4 is so bad. the worst thing is that you cant rly combo anymore with chrono what takes away some of its identity and also some skillneed away from the mesmer class that should be in every elite spec no matter of its nature. if they take away ip from mirage and kill distortion the same way by put a useless 1 sec invul on an shatter you need to use for other things at other times instead for surviving, then it might be the first time i get mad enough to do a break or stop playing the game. im so sad and mad about the insanely bad chrono changes…

    Well the nerf brigade are out in full force. They want CI deleting from the game, last I checked interrupt traits actually needed skill to use and you quite like interrupt builds. Either way I lost hope in the devs and the community is largely bad and first order thinkers.

    Absolutely! People spread gw2 saying the community is awesome, the best ever and stuff like that. I for one never played a game with a community as awful as this one. Bunch of salty qqers with little to no idea of balance.
    And what's worse, the devs balance the game taking qq in account.

    As for this topic, if Jazz says this last patch is bad, I think it rests the case, seeing as Jazz is one of the best, if not the best, mesmer in game.

  • Jazz.4639Jazz.4639 Member ✭✭✭
    edited July 18, 2019

    @Lincolnbeard.1735 said:

    @apharma.3741 said:

    @Jazz.4639 said:

    @apharma.3741 said:
    Just popping in to say I still like your videos, glad you don't play all the really strong stuff but it's a shame you're getting hit with nerf bats too. Keep it up! @Jazz.4639

    aaawww big thx its nice to hear that <3 my youtube is a bit in summerbreak atm but i will do more vids soon.

    luckily my main build (power mirage support hybrid) didnt rly get nerfed that much until now. the f2 change wasnt as bad as i first thought, i even like it now. but if they do with mirage spec the same stupid things they did with chrono, then i dont know what i will do. no ip and no f4 is so bad. the worst thing is that you cant rly combo anymore with chrono what takes away some of its identity and also some skillneed away from the mesmer class that should be in every elite spec no matter of its nature. if they take away ip from mirage and kill distortion the same way by put a useless 1 sec invul on an shatter you need to use for other things at other times instead for surviving, then it might be the first time i get mad enough to do a break or stop playing the game. im so sad and mad about the insanely bad chrono changes…

    Well the nerf brigade are out in full force. They want CI deleting from the game, last I checked interrupt traits actually needed skill to use and you quite like interrupt builds. Either way I lost hope in the devs and the community is largely bad and first order thinkers.

    Absolutely! People spread gw2 saying the community is awesome, the best ever and stuff like that. I for one never played a game with a community as awful as this one. Bunch of salty qqers with little to no idea of balance.
    And what's worse, the devs balance the game taking qq in account.

    As for this topic, if Jazz says this last patch is bad, I think it rests the case, seeing as Jazz is one of the best, if not the best, mesmer in game.

    dunno about that but big thx for the compliment <3
    i dont mind that they changed the shatters nature into something more chrono specific, like reducing the dmg from mindwrack and give some dmg back when you do something chrono specific (more dmg when slowed) but deleting ip totally kills it together with more or less deleting distortion. also combine distortion with cs doesnt make any sense, bc both shatters need to be used in totally different situations for totally different reasons at totally different times. chrono isnt a mesmer for me anymore at this point, it doesnt even have instant shatters in that sense. when i log on chrono and see a class with completely grayed out instant class mechanics i just log off. it makes no sense. im not even saying you cant make working builds with it (you clearly can), but it feels unfun and clunky and not like a spec of a mesmer anymore and it doesnt at all higher the skillneed to play this spec. so its not even a challenge to play chrono its just unfun. if mirage gets such poorly changes too i maybe rage quit. rip power shatter chrono you will be missed!

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