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How do you get black lion key's?

I know you use to be able to farm them by doing the beginning story over and over, but if I'm not mistaken they nerfed it so you could only do it once a week or something like that. Is buying them really the only (efficient) way?

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  • jbrother.1340jbrother.1340 Member ✭✭✭

    @silverfox.1056 said:
    I know you use to be able to farm them by doing the beginning story over and over, but if I'm not mistaken they nerfed it so you could only do it once a week or something like that. Is buying them really the only (efficient) way?

    yes buying them in the only reliable way to get them with any efficiency. I get them now and again on drops but only a few times a year.

    I also never really get anything of value from the chests. I do get things I want though even though they have no value :)

  • crashburntoo.7431crashburntoo.7431 Member ✭✭✭
    edited March 5, 2018

    You can get 1/week with a lvl 10 story on a new character... that's the nerf that you're remembering. Keys are available at later story steps if you want to invest the time in a single character to "farm" it out.

    You have an RNG chance of getting them as map rewards or from the BL box that features weekly as part of the login rewards.

    The only "efficient" way of getting them is by purchasing them, which is logically what Anet wants. If we could get 5-10 per week or even per month with little effort, very few people would bother to spend gems (cash) on them. You could dedicate your time and effort to amassing gold to convert to gems to get keys, but that's like working a full time job to fuel casino trips in the evening... if that's your thing.

    Edit: Wiki site for reference - shows all of the acquisition methods (BLCK)... Also, watch for a sale as part of this March sales blitz. I'd be very surprised if it didn't show up.

    Let's be neighbours.

  • Echoherb.6528Echoherb.6528 Member ✭✭✭

    There are various sources of getting them, but buying the keys is the only real reliable way of getting them. The rewards you get from the chests are generally not worth buying the keys imo, but hey it's your money!

  • Sombra.3246Sombra.3246 Member ✭✭✭

    I would not recommend buying, but getting them in game is fine.

  • Chief, easiest way for me was just map completion. Not guaranteed but 20% chance of getting em. I got like 4-5 keys per day doing this.

  • Add to boot you can sell gifts of masteries as legendaries for around 500g profit each. World completion will give a quite alot of keys and other mats.

  • Goettel.4389Goettel.4389 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Map completion has a decent chance of dropping one, good enough to open the occasional chest for fun.

  • Tyncale.1629Tyncale.1629 Member ✭✭✭
    edited January 28, 2019

    @Shadowmoon.7986 said:
    Add to boot you can sell gifts of masteries as legendaries for around 500g profit each. World completion will give a quite alot of keys and other mats.

    How do you mean? Are you talking about making a legendary (for which you need Gift of Exploraton) and then sell the Legendary? That sounds like a lot of work for 500g, assuming that you buy every mat from the TP in the first place. Admitted, I enjoy making Legendaries (on my 5th) but not for selling.
    As to farming keys by rerolling a level 10 char: I am doing that now with my Alt accounts (using the "level up with Cooking for less then 1 gold") method and I am actually kinda enjoying it. However, I am 53 Keys later, and never got a single "uncommon" drop. Let alone a rare or superrare(which I understand). :)

    I am still enjoying it since I do get the occasional nice Dye now and then and off course some utility stuff. Also simply enjoy the mindless footwork as a noob in Queensdale. The wardrobe unlocks (few and far in between) have not much use since these alt accounts do not even have the simplest basic stuff so I get rather mundane stuff usually. :) Also, after a year, I guess I will have enough statuettes to get a Black Lion Claim ticket and maybe a couple of scrap tickets.

    All it did was strengthen my belief to never ever buy Keys for gems (dollars) in the store. 53 keys is over 4200 Gems which is equivalent to 50 euros... this must be the worst return for any microtransaction in any game(ok, hyperbole). I guess you have more use out of it if you use those keys on a single Main account, but still. To be sure, not strapped for money, else I would not have so many Alt accounts (that already paid themselves back in Dailies gold). I just think the rng on Keys is really, really bad. I use the gold from the Alt-dailies for making Legendaries. I want all of them! (Exept the newer ones without the collection part, those are boring).

  • Danikat.8537Danikat.8537 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Tyncale.1629 said:

    @Shadowmoon.7986 said:
    Add to boot you can sell gifts of masteries as legendaries for around 500g profit each. World completion will give a quite alot of keys and other mats.

    How do you mean? Are you talking about making a legendary (for which you need Gift of Exploraton) and then sell the Legendary? That sounds like a lot of work for 500g, assuming that you buy every mat from the TP in the first place. Admitted, I enjoy making Legendaries (on my 5th) but not for selling.

    There's 2 ways this can work. The simplest is to make a gen 1 legendary and sell it on the TP, in which case you have to do everything yourself so it is a lot of work, especially because you ideally don't want to buy the materials from the TP, at least not using 'buy now' as you're aiming to keep the cost as low as possible in order to maximise profit.

    The other option is to find someone who wants a legendary and offer to make it for them. They provide all the tradable parts (precursor, materials for Gift of Might and Magic and the legendary specific gift, ectoplasm, potentially materials to make the mystic clovers) and a pre-agreed amount of gold to cover the cost of the account bound parts. That way you only have to provide the Gift of Battle, Gift of Exploration, Bloodstone Shard and 250 Obsidian Shards, plus the minimal time needed to combine it all.

    If you're the type of person who does map completion and WvW anyway that's very little additional effort on your part in return for a large chunk of gold (plus it skips the TP fees you'd pay if you sold it that way), and the other person gets a legendary for less than it would cost on the TP without having to do what they might consider the most time consuming and difficult parts.

    Of course there's a risk for both parties in being scammed. The person making the legendary could take the materials and vanish, or the person buying it could never pay the extra gold, and in either case Anet won't help because you're not supposed to trade outside the TP. So you do need to make sure it's someone you can trust. But it can and does happen.

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  • Tyncale.1629Tyncale.1629 Member ✭✭✭

    Thanks for the explanation, Danikat, makes more sense now. :)

  • ProtoGunner.4953ProtoGunner.4953 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 29, 2019

    You get quite a lot by map completion. Story gives you a few and the rest is RNG with an extremely ridiculous low drop rate. Don't rely on it. Better you either buy it with gems, either by converting it from gold (if you are a poor student) or with cash (the "I work" approach).

  • Pvp reward tracks also give you a bunch.

  • Warlord.9082Warlord.9082 Member ✭✭✭

    @silverfox.1056 said:
    I know you use to be able to farm them by doing the beginning story over and over, but if I'm not mistaken they nerfed it so you could only do it once a week or something like that. Is buying them really the only (efficient) way?

    My advice to you is to NOT get them. They are absolutely worthless. Got myself 100 keys for Christmas and got nothing but junk. Only 7 keys yielded a 5th slot and of that only one got a skin worth about 20 gold... 5th slot drop rate is absolutely atrocious. It is just a waste of money. On the subject of rare drops, the same seems to go for dyes, their drop rate is stupidly low too. I don't mind spending money but this is just ridiculous.

  • @Tyncale.1629 said:

    @Shadowmoon.7986 said:
    Add to boot you can sell gifts of masteries as legendaries for around 500g profit each. World completion will give a quite alot of keys and other mats.

    my belief to never ever buy Keys for gems (dollars) in the store. 53 keys is over 4200 Gems which is equivalent to 50 euros... this must be the worst return for any microtransaction in any game(ok, hyperbole). I guess you have more use out of it if you use those keys on a single Main account, but still. To be sure, not strapped for money, else I would not have so many Alt accounts (that already paid themselves back in Dailies gold). I just think the rng on Keys is really, really bad. I use the gold from the Alt-dailies for making Legendaries. I want all of them! (Exept the newer ones without the collection part, those are boring).

    $50 is about an hour's worth of real-life work for some of us. Far better return on our time (which is more valuable) to purchase than farm in that way.

  • LordOfDarkness.6837LordOfDarkness.6837 Member
    edited July 14, 2019

    @Marthisdil.9654 said:
    $50 is about an hour's worth of real-life work for some of us. Far better return on our time (which is more valuable) to purchase than farm in that way.

    $50/h? I earn $3/h :'(

  • Holgarf.6581Holgarf.6581 Member ✭✭

    Or don't buy keys because the drop rates for anything half decent are shockingly bad.

  • Zeefa.3915Zeefa.3915 Member ✭✭✭

    @Marthisdil.9654 said:

    @Tyncale.1629 said:

    @Shadowmoon.7986 said:
    Add to boot you can sell gifts of masteries as legendaries for around 500g profit each. World completion will give a quite alot of keys and other mats.

    my belief to never ever buy Keys for gems (dollars) in the store. 53 keys is over 4200 Gems which is equivalent to 50 euros... this must be the worst return for any microtransaction in any game(ok, hyperbole). I guess you have more use out of it if you use those keys on a single Main account, but still. To be sure, not strapped for money, else I would not have so many Alt accounts (that already paid themselves back in Dailies gold). I just think the rng on Keys is really, really bad. I use the gold from the Alt-dailies for making Legendaries. I want all of them! (Exept the newer ones without the collection part, those are boring).

    $50 is about an hour's worth of real-life work for some of us. Far better return on our time (which is more valuable) to purchase than farm in that way.

    Just going to point out 50 euro isn't the same as 50$ (quick search and it is more like 56$) Maybe a small difference, but felt like pointing it out. Either way I certainly don't get that much.

    On topic... I do keyruns of varying lenght almost weekly. I do them because of the tomes and scrolls I have and get, since I have nothing else to do with them. When I have scrolls that give level 30-40 I also get the level 40 story key. When I have level 50-60+ scrolls I also get the level 60 story key. I may consider the LS2 key too when level 70 and 80 scrolls happen, since you can skip all personal story and LS instances between that key and the previous one.
    I will admit it is a lot of work for mostly little outcome, but since I got the time but not the money... eh it works for me. If I had no scroll or tomes there would be no keyruns, not even the level 10 one.
    I do occasional map completion too, but mostly if I got nothing else to do.

  • Nemo.8759Nemo.8759 Member ✭✭

    Just using money buy it ;)

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