Weaver fire/air - 48k dps

Using staff and zerker gear:Vide from qt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMZg2x0Okjs

breace for the nerf boys.

I am happy it is doing well but.. you can't defend that.

Its staff, we all knew staff was going to be better. More skills for in-between (more Lava Font like effects) with high power coefficients from the traits.

This is however to be taken with a grain of salt. Actual raid performance will most likely be lower and we haven't seen all benchmarks just yet from all classes, trait /armor combinations.

And as we all knew - Sword dps sucks (read the video description)

Let's be honest, the only thing this proves is how bad the traits are and what an awful and uninspired idea it was to add 4 traits of increased damage % on the Weaver.

It was damn obvious that the outcome would be a buff to the overall damage of the ele - pushing it forward than what Tempest was already insane in doing, but not actually solving the problem.

In fact, I bet that the existence of these abundant %damage buff traits is the reason why dual skills and sword skills are so pathetic in the damage department (ANET was afraid of what it would do to the Ele already strong Raid damage potential).

For PvP , however, this means absolutely nothing because the sword is a bad weapon and the broken elemental dance due to the Weaver mechanic do more bad than good for the ele .

For WvW, it changes nothing. Ele is still a healer (and Tempest preferred) as it simply does not do enough damage to give it a fighting chance against Necro.

Overloads added a certain power to the Elementalist so the % traits were to try to even it out and push weaver to be the "damage" spec for elementalist. Sword just doesn't have the coefficients (or sword swing timers) to make it work, and it end up with the power staff being pushed further ahead.

All that waiting to stop using staff, and it's still better.

Bricks... don't hit back.

I struggle in open world with sword dagger melee weaver. Mostly zerker some celestial trinkets.

Same gear on tempest is ezy mode.

Can someone write me a sword open world guide?

@Smiggles.6823 said:Bricks... don't hit back.

I struggle in open world with sword dagger melee weaver. Mostly zerker some celestial trinkets.

Same gear on tempest is ezy mode.

Can someone write me a sword open world guide?

i am playing a viper/sinister dagger dagger weaver (with fire and arcane and all offensive traits) and i do really well in open world

My prediction:

• ANet see that Staff Weaver tops DPS again
• And decide to nerf... Sword Weaver DPS

I really like the vitality hybrid trait in weaver traitline but a couple of the other flat damage ones are a bit annoying for overall balance. Also, sword is a lot of fun to me, but it's pretty obvious that it lags behind a bit while also being harder to play than the other weapons, imo. I'll keep testing it to get a proper feel but definitely my preliminary findings is that staff is both easier and more effective (melee vs range aside, not counting), and also dagger/dagger is actually both fun and nicely setup in weaver as well!

Oh also, pve disclaimer.

It seems ele will remain a pve solo class for as long as raid exist, I had some hopes after looking at sword dps..but once again, the class will see huge nerfs based on a video of full glass 11k HP ele killing a training golem that doesn't fight back...with the ele having perma alacrity, might, banners and all sort of buffs....what a joke

If anything, they'll hopefully just nerf ele dual skills. Ideally though, they should rework one or two of our damage boost traits and move that power over to Sword Physical damage.

We knew this was going to be big with 100% uptime on Swiftness/Superspeed and Weakness. Another 37% on top of prior numbers is a lot bigger than I expected, though, even on large hitbox.

so for high dps race escenarios like say, fractal 40 farm, what would be better? weaver or tempest

@Tora.7214 said:so for high dps race escenarios like say, fractal 40 farm, what would be better? weaver or tempest

With full raid meta boons, Weaver.

Im getting about 25k dps on sword hybrid weaver.But still lots to improve, got no griever trinkets/ammy/rings, so they are a mixed now, and also missing 2 pieces of griever armor...Runes are also balthazar instead of flame legion...Still a lot to improve on the rotation also.

@goldenwing.9654 said:I am happy it is doing well but.. you can't defend that.

The issue is going to be they'll nerf the traits and then take no notice of sword which needs big buffs and which will get worse if teh traits are nerfed.

I tried to tell everyone awhile ago...

https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/1043/power-weaver-too-much-ferocity/p1

Standby and get ready to get Karl'd.

It's a large hitbox stationary golem, don't be dumb people. Most bosses are not this.

Love how half the weaver comments before a golem were saying weaver would have awful dps.

@Lalainnia.3598 said:Love how half the weaver comments before a golem were saying weaver would have awful dps.

I don't see that Weaver using a sword and if memory serves me the weaver comments were that Sword has awful DPS, so don't get your comment.

Half the comments before someone made a vid on live servers were about weaver having general bad dps and how tempests overloads were to good to give up. It's pretty obvious to see Sword isn't a crazy dps weapon let alone for power based builds that's why they made sure that weaver got dual skills for every single weapon not just sword. A butt load of comments in the updates post and general posts were going on about weaver having bad dps period and tempest overloads being beyond superior when it's clear as day to see that weaver would have great dps just because of its insane damage trait buffs.

As I feared, the damage rotation is really complicated, and it'll take me forever to learn the proper order to do it all. But otherwise, I can only echo most of what people said. Realistic DPS won't be this high, and I don't trust Anet to recognize that it should reduce the trait bonuses while buffing up the other weapon skills.

I'm going to have to hammer out some rotations for sword/focus later. I don't know how much it'll do, but I would at least like to see.

We must have gone to very different posts, because I remember people focusing on the issues with Sword - which is meant to be a DPS weapon (it offers no other function), but is barely superior then going without anything in your hand.

@Lalainnia.3598 said:Love how half the weaver comments before a golem were saying weaver would have awful dps.

Those comments were about sword and they are right, sword dps is horrible.