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mAT selling is ON , would Anet take an action or stay silent ?

Odik.4587Odik.4587 Member ✭✭✭✭
edited March 25, 2018 in PVP

Title , would be anything done about that or its legit could be bought for real money ?
Why wouldnt you make money just by selling this unique titles, special items with a description "This was earned by prevailing at the highest levels of competition in the Mists." ?
Previous experience which happened with NA supposed to prevent that but how lightly you taken that accident its repeat again. And would repeat many times obviously if thats go unpunished,3 months of dishonor is a joke and simply not enough to scare people from doing that again.
I could report them 1 billion times but given who have done it...this would be ignored completely

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  • Malediktus.9250Malediktus.9250 Member ✭✭✭✭

    I heared EU players are involved this time?

  • Odik.4587Odik.4587 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 25, 2018

    Yes
    IIrc that person have partnership with Anet on top :). People that ask questions banned on streams by those who cover him :) hehehe
    First time its been noticed because teams started complainting about it, 5 people caught. This time so famous and important person ... most likely get ignored or another '3months of dishonor' lol.

  • Odik.4587Odik.4587 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Malediktus.9250 said:
    Anet should just remove all exclusive rewards from high end PvP, then people wont have any reason to cheat anymore (acc share, carry, win trade, speed hacks, trolling etc). Percentage wise PvP is for sure the game mode with the highest amount of cheaters. And make those minis, gadgets, titles and armor skins buyable with season currencies.

    That would stop it indeed.But people would stop playing ranked for its rewards ,means less people and if we alrdy have low amount of people playing pvp, that would die completely and would be a ghost town :D

  • Malediktus.9250Malediktus.9250 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Quite the contrary. More people would play seasons if there were more season rewards you can grind for.

  • apharma.3741apharma.3741 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Malediktus.9250 said:
    Anet should just remove all exclusive rewards from high end PvP, then people wont have any reason to cheat anymore (acc share, carry, win trade, speed hacks, trolling etc). Percentage wise PvP is for sure the game mode with the highest amount of cheaters. And make those minis, gadgets, titles and armor skins buyable with season currencies.

    People pay to get titles in PvE, if you want to ban someone for doing it in PvP you should do so in PvE. Likewise all those that farmed ultimate dominator in OS on deso and the other colluding servers should have been stripped of every single bit of progress to that achievement, were they? It was a deliberate exploitation, I remember GW2Community advertising it during triple trouble and tequatl events and they knew kitten well it was an exploit.

  • Odik.4587Odik.4587 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @apharma.3741 said:

    @Malediktus.9250 said:
    Anet should just remove all exclusive rewards from high end PvP, then people wont have any reason to cheat anymore (acc share, carry, win trade, speed hacks, trolling etc). Percentage wise PvP is for sure the game mode with the highest amount of cheaters. And make those minis, gadgets, titles and armor skins buyable with season currencies.

    People pay to get titles in PvE, if you want to ban someone for doing it in PvP you should do so in PvE. Likewise all those that farmed ultimate dominator in OS on deso and the other colluding servers should have been stripped of every single bit of progress to that achievement, were they? It was a deliberate exploitation, I remember GW2Community advertising it during triple trouble and tequatl events and they knew kitten well it was an exploit.

    PvE/WvW doesnt ring a bell for me. And you cant compare competitive exlusive high end rewards/titles that can be achieved by proving you are worth it during tournaments/league season should be bought with money ? Are you kidding me ?

  • mindcircus.1506mindcircus.1506 Member ✭✭✭

    I don't play a ton > @Malediktus.9250 said:

    Percentage wise PvP is for sure the game mode with the highest amount of cheaters.

    Source?
    Seriously, I may not PvP much but I have never seen a cheater.
    I cannot go gathering these days without seeing at least 2 people using the teleporting harvesting bot on mid level core maps.
    There is a LOT of cheating going on in PvE right now.

  • apharma.3741apharma.3741 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Odik.4587 said:

    @apharma.3741 said:

    @Malediktus.9250 said:
    Anet should just remove all exclusive rewards from high end PvP, then people wont have any reason to cheat anymore (acc share, carry, win trade, speed hacks, trolling etc). Percentage wise PvP is for sure the game mode with the highest amount of cheaters. And make those minis, gadgets, titles and armor skins buyable with season currencies.

    People pay to get titles in PvE, if you want to ban someone for doing it in PvP you should do so in PvE. Likewise all those that farmed ultimate dominator in OS on deso and the other colluding servers should have been stripped of every single bit of progress to that achievement, were they? It was a deliberate exploitation, I remember GW2Community advertising it during triple trouble and tequatl events and they knew kitten well it was an exploit.

    PvE/WvW doesnt ring a bell for me. And you cant compare competitive exlusive high end rewards/titles that can be achieved by proving you are worth it during tournaments/league season should be bought with money ? Are you kidding me ?

    I’m saying they should be consistent, if they want to take a stance on people selling titles they should do it across the game not just for PvP as people learn in PvE that if they have no clue what to do but can grind tons of gold or whatever they can just buy it, no skill needed.

  • Odik.4587Odik.4587 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @apharma.3741 said:

    @Odik.4587 said:

    @apharma.3741 said:

    @Malediktus.9250 said:
    Anet should just remove all exclusive rewards from high end PvP, then people wont have any reason to cheat anymore (acc share, carry, win trade, speed hacks, trolling etc). Percentage wise PvP is for sure the game mode with the highest amount of cheaters. And make those minis, gadgets, titles and armor skins buyable with season currencies.

    People pay to get titles in PvE, if you want to ban someone for doing it in PvP you should do so in PvE. Likewise all those that farmed ultimate dominator in OS on deso and the other colluding servers should have been stripped of every single bit of progress to that achievement, were they? It was a deliberate exploitation, I remember GW2Community advertising it during triple trouble and tequatl events and they knew kitten well it was an exploit.

    PvE/WvW doesnt ring a bell for me. And you cant compare competitive exlusive high end rewards/titles that can be achieved by proving you are worth it during tournaments/league season should be bought with money ? Are you kidding me ?

    I’m saying they should be consistent, if they want to take a stance on people selling titles they should do it across the game not just for PvP as people learn in PvE that if they have no clue what to do but can grind tons of gold or whatever they can just buy it, no skill needed.

    Anet said they are fine on selling raids and basically PVE stuff, but tf? You want to tell me they should allow wintrading because they allowed to sell/buy raids?:D This people would offer their 'services' to make you god of pvp as they do to kill a raid boss, as someone did now to get this title and special 'snowflake' item from monthly AT and knowing WHO did it would be untouched.

  • Malediktus.9250Malediktus.9250 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @mindcircus.1506 said:
    I don't play a ton > @Malediktus.9250 said:

    Percentage wise PvP is for sure the game mode with the highest amount of cheaters.

    Source?
    Seriously, I may not PvP much but I have never seen a cheater.
    I cannot go gathering these days without seeing at least 2 people using the teleporting harvesting bot on mid level core maps.
    There is a LOT of cheating going on in PvE right now.

    Lol source. Is this an academic paper?

    You will not notice most hackers. If they put a speed boost of 5-10% on them it is enough to get an advantage in the long run without triggering the anti cheat system or making other players suspicious. Only a few people straight up use teleport or fly hacks. There are also hacks that let you attack while invisible. I already saw invisible golems in WvW destroying gates for example.

  • Ocir.7345Ocir.7345 Member ✭✭

    Selling raids for real money is bannable though.
    This has been sold for 400$ irl cash.
    And it's not a raid that everyone can buy
    Only a top team gets those rewards

  • Odik.4587Odik.4587 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Ocir.7345 said:
    Selling raids for real money is bannable though.
    This has been sold for 400$ irl cash.
    And it's not a raid that everyone can buy
    Only a top team gets those rewards

    Thats the point

  • I think that making the PVP titles and rewards buy-able is redundant. In case you haven't noticed, cheaters are not the players who are winning the Monthly Tournaments and the Seasonal matches. I feel like there should be a stricter punishment on people that win trade, but making the Rewards buy-able is probably the stupidest decision I've heard on here.

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  • apharma.3741apharma.3741 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Odik.4587 said:

    @apharma.3741 said:

    @Odik.4587 said:

    @apharma.3741 said:

    @Malediktus.9250 said:
    Anet should just remove all exclusive rewards from high end PvP, then people wont have any reason to cheat anymore (acc share, carry, win trade, speed hacks, trolling etc). Percentage wise PvP is for sure the game mode with the highest amount of cheaters. And make those minis, gadgets, titles and armor skins buyable with season currencies.

    People pay to get titles in PvE, if you want to ban someone for doing it in PvP you should do so in PvE. Likewise all those that farmed ultimate dominator in OS on deso and the other colluding servers should have been stripped of every single bit of progress to that achievement, were they? It was a deliberate exploitation, I remember GW2Community advertising it during triple trouble and tequatl events and they knew kitten well it was an exploit.

    PvE/WvW doesnt ring a bell for me. And you cant compare competitive exlusive high end rewards/titles that can be achieved by proving you are worth it during tournaments/league season should be bought with money ? Are you kidding me ?

    I’m saying they should be consistent, if they want to take a stance on people selling titles they should do it across the game not just for PvP as people learn in PvE that if they have no clue what to do but can grind tons of gold or whatever they can just buy it, no skill needed.

    Anet said they are fine on selling raids and basically PVE stuff, but tf? You want to tell me they should allow wintrading because they allowed to sell/buy raids?:D This people would offer their 'services' to make you god of pvp as they do to kill a raid boss, as someone did now to get this title and special 'snowflake' item from monthly AT and knowing WHO did it would be untouched.

    I’m saying that the culture of allowing people to buy titles is what’s given rise to the selling of PvP titles.

    If you practise enough you will complete the challenge modes for raids, voice in the void is probably one of the hardest titles to get, yet people are selling it and I doubt there’s no RMT going on at all either. Same thing with PvP if you practise a lot you will get to the end of a monthly or at least get well known enough that maybe you can get into a team capable of winning, or you could pay someone.

    Look at Mighty Teapot, he’s not bad at the game but he’s also not great yet had so many qualifying points in his team that they wouldn’t face a great team till semifinals of the monthly. Mostly because the favourites to win do enough to qualify and so are the lowest seed almost while TPot would be one of the highest. If you farm QP then you can make sure you won’t fight a serious team till later as most of them get just enough QP to qualify so as long as your team can find their backsides with 2 hands then they can get pretty far, all it takes is 1 month of R55 not playing and you could get that win.

    Given enough time, 2 to 3 months of really trying to git gud at PvP TPot could win a monthly, no need to purchase, just learn and try to improve....and kidnap Sind, Misha and Zan so they can’t play.

    Once again, the culture of letting people buy raids, titles and anything they want in PvE is what has led to the idea that you can buy PvP stuff, especially after seasons of wintrading.

  • Kundry.1249Kundry.1249 Member ✭✭

    @apharma.3741 said:

    @Odik.4587 said:

    @apharma.3741 said:

    @Malediktus.9250 said:
    Anet should just remove all exclusive rewards from high end PvP, then people wont have any reason to cheat anymore (acc share, carry, win trade, speed hacks, trolling etc). Percentage wise PvP is for sure the game mode with the highest amount of cheaters. And make those minis, gadgets, titles and armor skins buyable with season currencies.

    People pay to get titles in PvE, if you want to ban someone for doing it in PvP you should do so in PvE. Likewise all those that farmed ultimate dominator in OS on deso and the other colluding servers should have been stripped of every single bit of progress to that achievement, were they? It was a deliberate exploitation, I remember GW2Community advertising it during triple trouble and tequatl events and they knew kitten well it was an exploit.

    PvE/WvW doesnt ring a bell for me. And you cant compare competitive exlusive high end rewards/titles that can be achieved by proving you are worth it during tournaments/league season should be bought with money ? Are you kidding me ?

    I’m saying they should be consistent, if they want to take a stance on people selling titles they should do it across the game not just for PvP as people learn in PvE that if they have no clue what to do but can grind tons of gold or whatever they can just buy it, no skill needed.

    The difference is account-sharing. In usual (legal) PvE raid selling, the person getting the title still plays his own character, but is carried by the team. The analogous situation in PvP would be four players from Rank 55 carrying a fifth person. But instead they account-shared.

  • apharma.3741apharma.3741 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Kundry.1249 said:

    @apharma.3741 said:

    @Odik.4587 said:

    @apharma.3741 said:

    @Malediktus.9250 said:
    Anet should just remove all exclusive rewards from high end PvP, then people wont have any reason to cheat anymore (acc share, carry, win trade, speed hacks, trolling etc). Percentage wise PvP is for sure the game mode with the highest amount of cheaters. And make those minis, gadgets, titles and armor skins buyable with season currencies.

    People pay to get titles in PvE, if you want to ban someone for doing it in PvP you should do so in PvE. Likewise all those that farmed ultimate dominator in OS on deso and the other colluding servers should have been stripped of every single bit of progress to that achievement, were they? It was a deliberate exploitation, I remember GW2Community advertising it during triple trouble and tequatl events and they knew kitten well it was an exploit.

    PvE/WvW doesnt ring a bell for me. And you cant compare competitive exlusive high end rewards/titles that can be achieved by proving you are worth it during tournaments/league season should be bought with money ? Are you kidding me ?

    I’m saying they should be consistent, if they want to take a stance on people selling titles they should do it across the game not just for PvP as people learn in PvE that if they have no clue what to do but can grind tons of gold or whatever they can just buy it, no skill needed.

    The difference is account-sharing. In usual (legal) PvE raid selling, the person getting the title still plays his own character, but is carried by the team. The analogous situation in PvP would be four players from Rank 55 carrying a fifth person. But instead they account-shared.

    Yeah that is a big difference between them however I am saying that the idea that you can buy anything else prestigious like titles that you otherwise wouldn’t be able to get or don’t want to put in the time required to get is a contributing factor as to why this is happening and why it happened in NA on the first AT.

  • Crab Fear.1624Crab Fear.1624 Member ✭✭✭✭

    No arena net answer...anyone selling "Best of the Best" at a fair price?

  • BeLZedaR.4790BeLZedaR.4790 Member ✭✭✭

    Buying for cash is illegal for raids aswell. But in pvp buying for gold should be illegal too.

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  • Kheldorn.5123Kheldorn.5123 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @BeLZedaR.4790 said:
    Buying for cash is illegal for raids aswell. But in pvp buying for gold should be illegal too.

    Illegal? Which state or country has raid selling sanctioned by law?

  • @Kheldorn.5123 said:

    @BeLZedaR.4790 said:
    Buying for cash is illegal for raids aswell. But in pvp buying for gold should be illegal too.

    Illegal? Which state or country has raid selling sanctioned by law?

    You know what they meant don’t be an kitten.

  • Odik.4587Odik.4587 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Malediktus.9250 said:
    With people like Sindrener involved this time, I guess the last PvP "heroes" have fallen
    Cannot say I am suprised, most PvP players are hypocrites

    Simply because its 55r they were sure they would avoid responsability :) . Iirc they have partnership and still going for that ,hilarious.

  • Kasdwer.3721Kasdwer.3721 Member ✭✭✭

    look at reddit, anet answered it there and permabanned the one who played on the acc and the one whos account it is

  • choovanski.5462choovanski.5462 Member ✭✭✭
    edited March 25, 2018

    @Malediktus.9250 said:
    With people like Sindrener involved this time, I guess the last PvP "heroes" have fallen
    Cannot say I am suprised, most PvP players are hypocrites

    dude, it's a dead game full of bots and hackers. anyone able to make some $$$ off it, I say go for it, more power to em'

    EDIT: saw the Reddit lol. seems Zan even sold his original account. clever girl. cash out while you still can, make any $$$ of this fetid carcass of a gamemode- it's not like there's gonna be another paid tournament

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  • @Kasdwer.3721 said:
    look at reddit, anet answered it there and permabanned the one who played on the acc and the one whos account it is

    Reddit isn’t the official forums where that should be posted.

  • Malediktus.9250Malediktus.9250 Member ✭✭✭✭

    So why only 1 out 5 get punished. Shouldnt the 4 people who assisted in the crime should get a penalty also?

  • Shirlias.8104Shirlias.8104 Member ✭✭✭✭

    Where can I read more about what happened?

  • Odik.4587Odik.4587 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Malediktus.9250 said:
    So why only 1 out 5 get punished. Shouldnt the 4 people who assisted in the crime should get a penalty also?

    Yes , its very strange that only one is getting punishment instead of everyone ... 'at least something ' ?

  • Malediktus.9250Malediktus.9250 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Shirlias.8104 said:
    Where can I read more about what happened?

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/86xomm/monthly_tournament_win_on_eu_sold_for_400_again/

    most of it is on reddit

  • apharma.3741apharma.3741 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Odik.4587 said:

    @Malediktus.9250 said:
    So why only 1 out 5 get punished. Shouldnt the 4 people who assisted in the crime should get a penalty also?

    Yes , its very strange that only one is getting punishment instead of everyone ... 'at least something ' ?

    Had the person in question played on an account they owned the result would still have been the same, the same team would have won and the same 4 other players would have played on their accounts.

    What I’m more shocked at is the person buying it has a history (confirmed by Chris on reddit) of buying from 3rd parties and only got 3 months suspension while the person who played and did the hard part has now got a permaban. Yes I hear the account that was permabanned has been sold so /shrug there.

  • Shirlias.8104Shirlias.8104 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 25, 2018

    Thanks

    Target and punishment made me laugh ( given the fact that the whole team knew about it, all players should have punished the same way ).

  • Odik.4587Odik.4587 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 25, 2018

    @apharma.3741 said:

    @Odik.4587 said:

    @Malediktus.9250 said:
    So why only 1 out 5 get punished. Shouldnt the 4 people who assisted in the crime should get a penalty also?

    Yes , its very strange that only one is getting punishment instead of everyone ... 'at least something ' ?

    Had the person in question played on an account they owned the result would still have been the same, the same team would have won and the same 4 other players would have played on their accounts.

    What the point ? Like srsly why you even brought its here ? Thats why its attracted this buyer attention ? Buy monthly win from a strongest team? Ok.

    What I’m more shocked at is the person buying it has a history (confirmed by Chris on reddit) of buying from 3rd parties and only got 3 months suspension while the person who played and did the hard part has now got a permaban. Yes I hear the account that was permabanned has been sold so /shrug there.

    Why? You have partnership with Anet (at least what i heard) ,do such a thing , expected to be taken lightly or ignored?
    Everyone should have been banned . All of them knew about it ,helped to farm this QP ,(probably shared money ,cant tell for sure), everyone were involved . All of them have done it fully realize consequences . Sind even banned ppl on his stream for asking questions . True pillar of comminuty!

  • @apharma.3741 said:

    @Odik.4587 said:

    @Malediktus.9250 said:
    So why only 1 out 5 get punished. Shouldnt the 4 people who assisted in the crime should get a penalty also?

    Yes , its very strange that only one is getting punishment instead of everyone ... 'at least something ' ?

    Had the person in question played on an account they owned the result would still have been the same, the same team would have won and the same 4 other players would have played on their accounts.

    What I’m more shocked at is the person buying it has a history (confirmed by Chris on reddit) of buying from 3rd parties and only got 3 months suspension while the person who played and did the hard part has now got a permaban. Yes I hear the account that was permabanned has been sold so /shrug there.

    They’re guilty by association. They knew what was going on and they knew it was agaisnt TOS yet allowied it to happen. They’re just as at fault, results are irrelevant.

  • Curunen.8729Curunen.8729 Member ✭✭✭✭

    /shrug

    And this is why "serious" pvp is way past it's sell by date. Tbh not sure how much I care, if at all - most of the fun now is through casual play in unranked or wvw.

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  • apharma.3741apharma.3741 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Odik.4587 said:

    @apharma.3741 said:

    @Odik.4587 said:

    @Malediktus.9250 said:
    So why only 1 out 5 get punished. Shouldnt the 4 people who assisted in the crime should get a penalty also?

    Yes , its very strange that only one is getting punishment instead of everyone ... 'at least something ' ?

    Had the person in question played on an account they owned the result would still have been the same, the same team would have won and the same 4 other players would have played on their accounts.

    What the point ? Like srsly why you even brought its here ? Thats why its attracted this buyer attention ? Buy monthly win from a strongest team? Ok.

    What I’m more shocked at is the person buying it has a history (confirmed by Chris on reddit) of buying from 3rd parties and only got 3 months suspension while the person who played and did the hard part has now got a permaban. Yes I hear the account that was permabanned has been sold so /shrug there.

    Why? You have partnership with Anet (at least what i heard) ,do such a thing , expected to be taken lightly or ignored?
    Everyone should have been banned . All of them knew about it ,helped to farm this QP ,(probably shared money ,cant tell for sure), everyone were involved . All of them have done it fully realize consequences . Sind even banned ppl on his stream for asking questions . True pillar of comminuty!

    If the person in question had played on his normal account do you think the results of the monthly AT would have been any different? No they wouldn’t.

    Yes it’s very unlikely that the rest of the team didn’t know what was going on however they weren’t selling their wins or doing anything they wouldn’t have normally done in the monthly AT. They also weren’t breaking the ToS, only the persons involved in the account sharing.

    If you feel the rest of them were underhanded or betrayed your trust or whatever then show it by not watching them stream, blocking them in game and distancing yourself from them.

  • Malediktus.9250Malediktus.9250 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 25, 2018

    I guess you can hurt those streamers most by not watching their streams anymore and most importantly cancel any subscription you might have to their twitch channel. That might cost them more money than they made from this deal (I dont know how much they money they receive per sub, anyone know exact numbers?)

  • Lincolnbeard.1735Lincolnbeard.1735 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @apharma.3741 said:

    If the person in question had played on his normal account do you think the results of the monthly AT would have been any different? No they wouldn’t.

    That's not how things work or should work.
    So basically you're saying if you can do something you're allowed to cheat your way to it, since the results wouldn't be different.

  • FrizzFreston.5290FrizzFreston.5290 Member ✭✭✭✭

    While I dont entirely agree with Malediktus by removing all exclusive rewards, making some of them temporary might be better. Even GW1 got to a point where guild invites were being sold by guilds with trimmed capes.

    This way such titles would be more of a king of the hill kind of thing.

    It's not that I don't feel like the winners deserve it or not (if nothing shady was going on at least) but with this atmosphere of cheating and wintrading moving to a reward system that takes away those motivators and makes it more about winning fair and square could possibly be alot better.

    Also feel like in certain cases where this is the case, both teams should be disqualified and the 3rd place should win. Or an extra match should take place. As an least as an alternative.

    But yeah, for automated tournament systems, rather no exclusive rewards, and/or monitor specifically the monthly tournaments closer. With the option of disqualifying entire teams.

    Yes its harsh on those unfortunate being unknowingly in a team with a cheater, but that really is the only way to make sure people form honest teams rather than PUGs with potential to sell wins or losses.

  • Odik.4587Odik.4587 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 25, 2018

    @apharma.3741 said:

    @Odik.4587 said:

    @apharma.3741 said:

    @Odik.4587 said:

    @Malediktus.9250 said:
    So why only 1 out 5 get punished. Shouldnt the 4 people who assisted in the crime should get a penalty also?

    Yes , its very strange that only one is getting punishment instead of everyone ... 'at least something ' ?

    Had the person in question played on an account they owned the result would still have been the same, the same team would have won and the same 4 other players would have played on their accounts.

    What the point ? Like srsly why you even brought its here ? Thats why its attracted this buyer attention ? Buy monthly win from a strongest team? Ok.

    What I’m more shocked at is the person buying it has a history (confirmed by Chris on reddit) of buying from 3rd parties and only got 3 months suspension while the person who played and did the hard part has now got a permaban. Yes I hear the account that was permabanned has been sold so /shrug there.

    Why? You have partnership with Anet (at least what i heard) ,do such a thing , expected to be taken lightly or ignored?
    Everyone should have been banned . All of them knew about it ,helped to farm this QP ,(probably shared money ,cant tell for sure), everyone were involved . All of them have done it fully realize consequences . Sind even banned ppl on his stream for asking questions . True pillar of comminuty!

    If the person in question had played on his normal account do you think the results of the monthly AT would have been any different? No they wouldn’t.

    Yes it’s very unlikely that the rest of the team didn’t know what was going on however they weren’t selling their wins or doing anything they wouldn’t have normally done in the monthly AT. They also weren’t breaking the ToS, only the persons involved in the account sharing.

    If you feel the rest of them were underhanded or betrayed your trust or whatever then show it by not watching them stream, blocking them in game and distancing yourself from them.

    Wow mate , i dont care that they won mAT, why you even discuss it ? Like okay ,they would win mAT regardless . I deny that ? Who ask about it ?
    Its a fact that everyone knew ,Sind was busy deleting/banning people who asked if its true .
    If you assist someone commit a murder or to rob a bank ,you are innocent ? Really ????????? :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

  • apharma.3741apharma.3741 Member ✭✭✭✭

    @Odik.4587 said:

    @apharma.3741 said:

    @Odik.4587 said:

    @apharma.3741 said:

    @Odik.4587 said:

    @Malediktus.9250 said:
    So why only 1 out 5 get punished. Shouldnt the 4 people who assisted in the crime should get a penalty also?

    Yes , its very strange that only one is getting punishment instead of everyone ... 'at least something ' ?

    Had the person in question played on an account they owned the result would still have been the same, the same team would have won and the same 4 other players would have played on their accounts.

    What the point ? Like srsly why you even brought its here ? Thats why its attracted this buyer attention ? Buy monthly win from a strongest team? Ok.

    What I’m more shocked at is the person buying it has a history (confirmed by Chris on reddit) of buying from 3rd parties and only got 3 months suspension while the person who played and did the hard part has now got a permaban. Yes I hear the account that was permabanned has been sold so /shrug there.

    Why? You have partnership with Anet (at least what i heard) ,do such a thing , expected to be taken lightly or ignored?
    Everyone should have been banned . All of them knew about it ,helped to farm this QP ,(probably shared money ,cant tell for sure), everyone were involved . All of them have done it fully realize consequences . Sind even banned ppl on his stream for asking questions . True pillar of comminuty!

    If the person in question had played on his normal account do you think the results of the monthly AT would have been any different? No they wouldn’t.

    Yes it’s very unlikely that the rest of the team didn’t know what was going on however they weren’t selling their wins or doing anything they wouldn’t have normally done in the monthly AT. They also weren’t breaking the ToS, only the persons involved in the account sharing.

    If you feel the rest of them were underhanded or betrayed your trust or whatever then show it by not watching them stream, blocking them in game and distancing yourself from them.

    Wow mate , i dont care that they won mAT, why you even discuss it ? Like okay ,they would win mAT regardless . I deny that ? Who ask about it ?
    Its a fact that everyone knew ,Sind was busy deleting/banning people who asked if its true .
    If you assist someone commit a murder or to rob a bank ,you are innocent ? Really ????????? :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

    There’s a big difference between assisting someone deliberately robbing a bank and say having a team refitting the security for a bank and 1 of them robbing it.

    Anyway there’s apparently some more news about this on teatime so might be worth watching before everyone jumps to conclusions.

  • For starters, I had nothing but respect for one of the more popular players in r55. But now after this latest episode, he's nothing but a hypocrite. Having asked for bans regarding season match-manipulation and then being found cheating like this... it's disgusting. Given the ridiculously low sum of 400 bucks, one can only assume that they felt over-confident and presume that Anet will do nothing much about it.

    Dear Anet, this is where you set an example. This is where you stop favoring streamers and just permanently ban them from PvP at the very least, if not more.

  • cyclop.5934cyclop.5934 Member ✭✭
    edited March 25, 2018

    QoL request. Since some ppl probably will get temporary dishonor, and players may be confused from whom to buy maT next month and God of PVP next season. So Anet please add these items to the Gemstore please.Thank you.

  • Mr Godlike.6098Mr Godlike.6098 Member ✭✭✭
    edited March 26, 2018

    One thing amazes me...

    People are win trading and literally cheat/hack to get pvp titles in ranked...and got dishonor for 3 months.

    Guy wins legitimately monthly at on alt account...and permabanned. Of course it was somebody account but... still he legitimately won.

    Disproportion here is just....eh.

  • Rufo.3716Rufo.3716 Member ✭✭✭

    Anything outside of unranked is a cesspool for all forms of cheating. Obviously Anet doesn't think very highly of their game anymore to allow such blatant cheating to continue after many moths of player outrage. It's everywhere, in all game modes now, and either the statement of the hack being undetectable is true, or Anet just doesn't care enough to ban people.

    Even the few people they gave slaps on the wrist to isn't exactly instilling confidence in the player community.

  • Azure The Heartless.3261Azure The Heartless.3261 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 26, 2018

    @Malediktus.9250 said:
    Anet should just remove all exclusive rewards from high end PvP, then people wont have any reason to cheat anymore (acc share, carry, win trade, speed hacks, trolling etc). Percentage wise PvP is for sure the game mode with the highest amount of cheaters. And make those minis, gadgets, titles and armor skins buyable with season currencies.

    As long as incentives remain, I'm fine with reward tracking it.

    There are a very small percentage of people who will play PvP for the impeccable balance and charming community, as unbelievable as that might sound.

    Pretty sure taking away their incentives would kill PVP even more. If you can grind it it may reduce the need to guarantee wins by match manipulation/cheating.

    [Charr Noises]
    [Plays every class]
    [JUST GIT EVEN GUDDER ITS FINE]

  • geist.9173geist.9173 Member ✭✭✭

    People never learn. Don't ban them, just take away all the stuff they got over the years (rare titles, skins, achievements) and cut off their e-peens. That hurts more than a ban.

    There is still time to change the course of history.

  • Odik.4587Odik.4587 Member ✭✭✭✭
    edited March 26, 2018

    @geist.9173 said:
    People never learn. Don't ban them, just take away all the stuff they got over the years (rare titles, skins, achievements) and cut off their e-peens. That hurts more than a ban.

    You cant remove titles they said once HoT appeared ... Never heard they can or not for sure. And if you leave them just as it is , they would do it all over again. Just taking their stuff wont do it.They would sell another monthly for cash(sell titles, ruin game experience for others,wintrading etc,etc) and they wouldnt lose anything in this case,only gain money . So...you are completely wrong ,imo ;)

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