PvP Special Tournaments

How long is "longer than expected"? Are we talking about like 2 months, 6 months, or even a year? Because my answer would vary based on the timeframe. If it's more like 2 months, I would want to wait, if closer to or over 6 months I'd say let's get this ball rolling, and have a test run to see how it feels.

I would prefer to wait when its not much longer than 6 months. Otherwise start before

A varied and incomplete experience sooner versus a varied and completed experience later (varied as in different from conquest).

I think it makes the most sense to wait until you can put your best foot forward, even if that means a longer than ideal wait, considering it may be a new experience for many interested. For these players, I think being taken by surprise without a chance to adapt and come back could leave a lingering foul taste in their mouth, especially considering the game mode and that special tournaments do not appear as though they will be as common.

I'd say if you can get swiss done before summer then swiss it is, but I realize that it's probably going to take longer.

Well, I like conquest but we've been playing it for more than 5 years now, I think the sooner we get something to spice things up the better.

Swiss may improve the experience overall, but I doubt that it'll pump those participation numbers up by much, while special tournaments will most certainly bring in tons of people.

TL;DR I'd vote for special tournament before swiss.

One last thing I'd add - if you're gonna do a 2v2 or 3v3, just reduce outgoing healing by 33-50% and I think balance won't be a problem

April Fools!Anet can't actually spaghetti something like this together without accidentally detatching more hitboxes from each other and causing fall damage traits to deal millions of damage.

Come to think of it, there might be an April Fools joke hidden in here somewhere. :lol:

2-3 months is fine to wait but after that I think its really the time for the tournaments. Or at least something. Like on demand tournaments? Great work you all at a net. Seeing all the communication after PoF allso means so so much. :)

Pvp is ded currently and season 11 with the same old circlequest maps bound to fight one 3 single points on a map. I'd say wait for a few months or a year to try again. Takie your time to work on something besides a circlequest map then we can try again. 2v2 3v3 5v5 tdm sounds amazing. Then you have the possibility of a new stronghold map if you ever have time away from making flashy skins. But pvp is the lowest of low priorities so i understand why it is the crudhole it is now.

why not do both, put out what you got and continue working on the swiss?

just a reminder that wintrading is still the problem no.1, even with the recent "bans". pvp is full of it, wether known wintrade figure or casual player that decided to cheat himself into top10/25. with each season the titles get less prestigeous and players get more frustrated that they have to deal with this and end up quitting. even after a big patch like the recent one i hear people say they skip seasons or drop pvp because the problem is still the same. do something drastic like deleting all season titles e.g., and hand out instant permanent bans for mm/wintrading. you need to keep doing something or we wont even come to swiss format..speaking of it i'd guess waiting for its completion is better

I think you should do the Swiss style tournaments when it's possible, or some type of tournament rather than waiting for it to get polished out before realeasing... Because if it is realsed earlier you can just get feedback from the community and polish it out that way ?

Just to clarify:-By Swiss it would be best of 3, correct? Would this apply to all tiers of the tournaments? Like every single match up would be Bo3?-By special tournaments, do you mean 2v2s and 3v3s? I know you've talked about this in the past but I'd just like it to be clear.

Now me personally, I would rather have the special tournaments come before the Swiss. I play pretty casually at the moment and would like to be able to, for example, queue up for a 2v2 with my fiancé or a friend. I wouldn't be heartbroken about being booted within the first 5 minutes. It would also be nice to have an alternative game mode out sooner.

It depends how long should it take to be implemented. I mean, if we consider the following case :

• Swiss will be implemented in september
• Special tournaments can be implemented in may, but then swiss tournaments will be implemented in november

Then obviously, we should have special tournaments. Alternatively, if swiss tournaments were to be implemented in june, i'd wait for them !

Swiss should be first so more people will have actually chance to enjoy it. Besides if it would happen now...we would have to wait god knows how much for anything new and that would be depressing.

Put the Tournaments out first, then push Swiss out when it's ready! The PvP community needs content, rather than 'perfected' content. Just something to do that isn't Conquest or the same Stronghold map. :P

@Ben Phongluangtham.1065 said:

@Milan.9035 said:why not do both, put out what you got and continue working on the swiss?

maybe it's not better do some special tournament outside at system in personal arena? i know that this way you need some ppl to check the rooms and organize stuff , but i think it's the better choice at the moment....

@Ben Phongluangtham.1065 said:

@"Pterikdactyl.7630" said:Just to clarify:-By Swiss it would be best of 3, correct? Would this apply to all tiers of the tournaments? Like every single match up would be Bo3?-By special tournaments, do you mean 2v2s and 3v3s? I know you've talked about this in the past but I'd just like it to be clear.

Now me personally, I would rather have the special tournaments come before the Swiss. I play pretty casually at the moment and would like to be able to, for example, queue up for a 2v2 with my fiancé or a friend. I wouldn't be heartbroken about being booted within the first 5 minutes. It would also be nice to have an alternative game mode out sooner.

Just do special tournaments now. No downsides.

Roll out the special tournaments, and then implement the swiss style later.

My vote is to simply WAIT. The perceived problem has been pushing out PvP changes that are half-decent instead of waiting until a good product is ready. Now of course, the kicker is "how long is the wait".

Id prefer special tournaments, because i think that they have the potential to get more players into pvp.Btw would it be possible to make the rewards increase/desrase with the ammount of teams playing in an at.Its unfair imo that a tournament with 30 teams has the same rewards as a tournament with 8 teams

Wait for swiss if the rewards are better and provide a better tournament experience, otherwise proceed with the "special tournaments".

EDIT: Have you thought about doing a poll, or do you think the results won't justify reasoning?