Why is spamming 3 a viable build?

P/P Thief

OmegaLUL

Everything is viable in low divisions.

@"Kheldorn.5123" said:Everything is viable in low divisions.

Platinum

OmegaLUL

@shadowpass.4236 said:

@"Kheldorn.5123" said:Everything is viable in low divisions.

Someone got carried hard it seems.

p/p thief is not viable

@"Kasdwer.3721" said:p/p thief is not viable

https://www.twitch.tv/vallunv

PP isnt viable IAM OMEGALUL

@Vallun.2071 said:PP isnt viable IAM OMEGALUL

say that to the legendary players would play pp thiefs

@shadowpass.4236 said:

@"Kheldorn.5123" said:Everything is viable in low divisions.

Just because you see a P/P thief doesn't mean that player got to that rating with that build. Maybe he has a 30% winrate on it and climbs back with other builds when he lost enough?

P/P thief definitely not an all purpose, viable build, but it hard counters the hell out of low-active defense classes. I think you should be rewarded for running it if the enemy chooses to stack Scourge or Druid, or Reaper. Spicy pick. I like it

Dont know, wouldnt call viable, just extremely easy to play and get results on it...its kind of sad to see that Vallun video, he is getting erased by that mesmer...now that is a problem, to much invulnerability, damage and mobility.

Enemy thief sees Shadowfall's playing Druid.

Enemy thief swaps to P/P.

Enemy thief camps Shadowfall.

Shadowfall rages and comes to forums.

The end

But seriously I saw an increase in Condi D/D daredevils and p/p deadeyes in platinum. Luckily I had my broken Chaos Mirage along ?

p/p deadeye and deadeye in general is strong against bad players which is about 95% of ranked so it isn't bad build.

P/P deadeye is even more cheese because the burst is insane besides from being instant + stun most players can't react thus they die then you whole team get snowballed because they don't know how to focus or kite and then you lose the match.

If you have at least 2 decent players then they won't die and actually focus the deadeye making him/her way less effective.

It’s bad game design, but it works. I have always felt that Thief was designed poorly, being able to spam its single most powerful skill, whether that is Vault, Heartseeker, or Unload over-and-over-and-over again. But the Devs are happy with it and so are a good many players.

I totally though this thread would be about Flanking / Larc Strike. I guess the community is evolving.

@"Chaith.8256" said:P/P thief definitely not an all purpose, viable build, but it hard counters the hell out of low-active defense classes. I think you should be rewarded for running it if the enemy chooses to stack Scourge or Druid, or Reaper. Spicy pick. I like it

As a necro main I can confirm.

P/P thief is easiest enough to deal with, a stern look and they usually drop dead. That doesnt make it any less frustrating for a p/p thief to just spam 3 to maximize their build.

If I ever die to a P/P Thief I will unistall GW2 and then burn my copy and hung it in it's scorched state on my wall right next to my PC as a reminder of how bad I am.

@Imperadordf.2687 said:Enemy thief sees Shadowfall's playing Druid.

Enemy thief swaps to P/P.

Enemy thief camps Shadowfall.

Shadowfall rages and comes to forums.

The end

But seriously I saw an increase in Condi D/D daredevils and p/p deadeyes in platinum. Luckily I had my broken Chaos Mirage along ?

Imperadordf makes assumptions.

Poor weaponset design.

Low dmg Auto attack + short immobilize that you can evade by strafing on #2, and if it hits it usually ends before starting up #3 + stealth attack that is like #3 with half dmg but the weapon set has poor access to stealth unless played with daredevil = spam #3

4 and 5 are situational, a decent interrupt and small blind field.

@Julius Seizure.4985 said:It’s bad game design, but it works. I have always felt that Thief was designed poorly, being able to spam its single most powerful skill, whether that is Vault, Heartseeker, or Unload over-and-over-and-over again. But the Devs are happy with it and so are a good many players.

I've gotta start by sayingthat I think the initiative system is a cool idea. But in practie I think it has failed. It has led to a system where it is impossible to balanec thief skills. You simply cannot balanec weapons skills against the abilitt to cast them back to back, multiple times.

because the game is designed around the lowest common denominator

It's honestly every thief build if you really look at the class.

Becaue spamming f1-4 is viable

@OriOri.8724 said:

@Julius Seizure.4985 said:It’s bad game design, but it works. I have always felt that Thief was designed poorly, being able to spam its single most powerful skill, whether that is Vault, Heartseeker, or Unload over-and-over-and-over again. But the Devs are happy with it and so are a good many players.

In reality, you absolutely can, but only if all classes are designed around that same paradigm, rather than giving that capability only to a single, arbitrary class amid others which operate entirely within the confines of comparatively astronomical cooldowns.